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the name "angelus"

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Friday, January 14, 2005 6:57 AM

okay, i probably completely missed it, but does darla give angel his name? his name was originally liam, right? also, what was darla's name originally or spike's (was it william?) and drusilla?

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Friday, January 14, 2005 6:58 AM

KNIBBLET

That would be a poncy, evil version of Angel. Any questions?

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, January 14, 2005 7:26 AM

EMBERS

after Liam was turned he returned to his parent's home and was invited in by his sister,
who thought he was an angel
(she knew he had died)
he eats his whole family, but I think the sister's mistake became the basis for his name...

Yes, Spike's real name was William (Liam is the Irish version of the name William...but I don't know that that means anything).

I've never heard any other name for Drusilla....

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Friday, January 14, 2005 7:28 AM

JEWEL

Darla mentions in season 2 that her name wasn't Darla the first time she was human, but it had been so long she couldn't remember what it was.

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Friday, January 14, 2005 7:53 AM

AMYEL

They never explained Drusilla's name at all, but I assumed it wasn't her real name considering the historical connotations.

Drusilla was the sister of the Roman emperor Caligula. Caligula was sexually involved with his sister from adolescence until her death when she was a young woman. Many years later, Caligula had a daughter and named her Drusilla. When Caligula was assassinated, Drusilla was also killed.

Drusilla, or whoever she was before, was a part of a pious Catholic family in Victorian England, and I doubt they'd name a daughter of theirs Drusilla. I always thought that Angelus named her Drusilla as kind of a joke after she was turned. They were quite the incestuous little vampire family. Drusilla thought of Angelus and Darla as her Daddy and Grandmum, but of course she had lots of sex with Angelus (and apparently, occasionally with Darla too).

Dru was made so crazy that maybe she wouldn't even remember her real name either. Or she would know, but it's not like she's able to answer any questions with a simple direct statement.

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Friday, January 14, 2005 10:29 AM

RHYMEPHILE

The history behind his name was also mentioned in the first season of Buffy -- which you need to start watching next, Est. According to Giles, Angelus meant "one with the angelic face." Take that as you will.

They never discussed how he was named that, however.

And interestingly enough, when Spike first pops up in Sunnydale, in the Buffy Season 2 episode "School Hard," he mispronounces Angelus's name.

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Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:22 AM

CYBERSNARK

An "angelus" is also the tune that church bells ring out.

"Darla" is an archaic version of "darling."

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Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:37 AM

JEWEL

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Originally posted by RhymePhile:
And interestingly enough, when Spike first pops up in Sunnydale, in the Buffy Season 2 episode "School Hard," he mispronounces Angelus's name.

I remember Joss saying in one of the commentaries that when Angel got his own show he insisted that Angelus be pronounced a specific way (emphasis on 2nd syllable).

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Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:08 PM

DIRTYBROWNCOAT

A lot of people got it wrong in Buffy's second season...you'll notice that they use Spike's mispronunciation (at least James Marsters does) a couple of times throughout that season, 'specially after he reverts to Angelus.

Simon: You...you came for us.
Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
-Safe

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Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:00 PM

EMBERS

yeah, I understood that Joss had always meant for it to be pronounced w/the accent on the second sylable...
but he hadn't made that clear,
and James (and undoubtedly the director) were thinking of Los Angeles (accent on the Ang)

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Friday, February 4, 2005 8:30 PM

OPTIMUS1998

ok, off topic of this thread, and most likely covered in another thread here, but i've been watching season 1 of angel, and just today watched the episode "prodigal" now in the flashbacks to when darla was "choosing" liam, the bar maid she is conversing with is our mrs. reynolds herself, our own YoSafBridge.

...May have been the losing side, Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Saturday, February 5, 2005 2:25 AM

GROUNDED

I think that came up before in one of the 'where have we seen them before?' type threads.

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