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Floor Thirty-Three and a Third: Nicely In Between

POSTED BY: LIGHTMEDARK
UPDATED: Monday, December 4, 2006 03:24
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Friday, November 17, 2006 5:13 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


index thread/elevator:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=22396

Wasn't OJ in Naked Gun 33 1/3? Thought the floor number would be fitting.

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Friday, November 17, 2006 5:27 PM

JADEHAND


Ah a shiny new floor! Yay!
*sets up the Bar, Billiards, and Hot tubs.

*Heats up the grill..... who's hungry? Lots of beef, chicken, dogs, brats, and even some tofu to grill. Cook outs are great in this weather, Firepits are fun too.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 17, 2006 5:31 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by LightMeDark:
Wasn't OJ in Naked Gun 33 1/3? Thought the floor number would be fitting.



I think so. Though the thread title puts me more in mind of the half floor from Being John Malkovich.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Friday, November 17, 2006 5:40 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


I could see that from what I've heard of the movie. I've never seen it, though I think it looks like I'd enjoy it.

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Friday, November 17, 2006 6:09 PM

JADEHAND


It's really fun, you should see it.

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Friday, November 17, 2006 6:10 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by LightMeDark:
I could see that from what I've heard of the movie. I've never seen it, though I think it looks like I'd enjoy it.



It's odd. Very surreal and very heavy but with moments of humor (mostly dark.) Take this with a grain of salt because I never finished watching it (Netflix sent it to me when I wasn't in the proper mood for it) but check it out. It's a deep flick about the philosophy of identity and the ethics of manipulation. So make sure the brain is fully engaged before viewing.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:18 AM

JADEHAND


That's what I said, it's really fun. Plus, can't really go wrong with John Cusack.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:44 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Did the elevator get stuck?

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:43 AM

LIGHTMEDARK


it's all a mystery...

*cues spooky music

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:51 AM

CITIZEN


CMS:
I went to the Post office to send your box off this morning. You're going to have to wait for awhile because postage was going to cost £69 (~$130) so I'm going to put it all into several smaller boxes, because apparently that'll work out cheaper.

I'm dissapointed in my brother. He was going to join the Navy, but instead he's decided to become a white hat-ed ponce. Bloody Chefs. He's just started working for some celebrity chef's resturant ( http://www.postrestaurant.co.uk/). He had to cook dinner for that clinically insane fella, Ainsley Harriot. Apparently he is nice enough but a complete tit, so my brother tells me. I asked why he didn't poison his food. I mean, can't cook won't cook, it's a crime against humanity isn't it, poisoning is almost too good for him.



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Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:48 AM

JADEHAND


Quote:

Originally posted by LightMeDark:
it's all a mystery...

*cues spooky music



We would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids.

Too much Scooby-Doo.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:51 AM

SERYN


and their dog!

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:11 PM

JADEHAND


Rut Roo Raggy.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:09 PM

SERYN


ok, now i have that Scooby Snacks song in my head.


Fun lovin Criminals?

What happend to them?

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:14 PM

JADEHAND


Sorry, Not familiar.
Is that a band or something? Sounds like a description of our favourite crew.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:26 PM

SERYN




very cool song, they were around a few years ago, this is one of those songs that managed to unite every fraction of my college - everyone from the proto-chav scrawling catroon genitals on the cefeteria tables to the the man/ape thing gone wrong on Marylin Manson make up asleep on the next table in the E room - everyone loved it.

great song.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:29 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Some A/V



David

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 2:32 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


time for a FF update. In XII I have Vaan at level 30 about to enter Rabanastre palace, ha. In V, I'm somewhere in the 3rd world, and I'm stuck (again). I've seriously never played an RPG as hard as this one.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:07 PM

JADEHAND


well, you're better off on levels than I, but I'm further along on story. Not that there's a competition. I should have done the level early thing, so when new folks joined they were equal level. pooh. oh well, still having much fun.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:46 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


got past the part i was stuck on in FFV but still frustrated...i think i just want to be done with it, lol.

it's all about having fun...i can't wait to actually get into the story and have other characters to use. i just did the early level thing to get comfortable with the game first before actually venturing into it.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:05 PM

JADEHAND


I tend to jump in feet first, wonder why things don't make sense, then make them make sense.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 5:47 PM

JADEHAND


ok, I got home and watched the FLC video, I must say.... I've never heard that before. Wrong crowd I guess. Ah well.


lyric: http://www.marillion.com/music/lyrics/marbles.htm#neverland

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:19 PM

MAI


Oooh it's just like HP's platform 9 and 3/4! Very cool. Do we have to run into a brick wall in order to find this floor? Fun!!! (I'm wearing helmet just in case)

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Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:33 PM

JADEHAND


See, I was picturing more the "Being John Malcovich" thing... Pull the emergancy stop on the elevator whilst between floors, and pry the doors open to find the secret hidden floor. There was also last episode of Smallville, floor 33.1, I believe (appropriate), but that was just swiping a keycard in the elevator on the way up. Lex's evil experiments. Of course running into a brick wall apparently has some appeal too.
*gets a helmet..... Straps in.....*
Ready.


"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:28 AM

SERYN


but did you like it?

I think its fun (in a silly way).

Same as this place seems to have turned into a sketch from Jackass.

Well, if you can't beat 'em....

*straps on helmet*

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:52 AM

JADEHAND


Did I like what? "Being John Malcovich"? Yes ... brilliant. The vid I posted, yes , even more brilliant.
If anything here is a Jackass, I'd assume it's me, unless you mean in the way that the dems are "jackasses".
'Sides, who says you can't beat 'em? That's why they make floggers eh?
Crap, almost 7am, I should sleep soon, I have apocolyi to avert starting 'round 12.



"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:56 AM

COZEN


*Straps on his apocolyi nelmet and settles in to watch the first season of Lost.*

Cuz, well, everyone else has seen this, and I do prefer hanging about on the trailing edge of what's (been)popular.


***
Foghat. Man, they so rock, dude.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:09 AM

CITIZEN


All this talk of strap on helmets is disturbing.



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Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:57 AM

CALLMESERENITY


I don't have a helmet.

But I have safety goggles!!!


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Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:40 AM

MAI


I'm so glad everyone is prepared! Shall we see if the brick barrier leads to the 3/4 floor?
( I just donned my helmet in case the barrier didn't give way -- didn't want anyone to have to clean brains off the wall after my running start.) Or we could just here looking lovely in our safety gear.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:59 AM

SERYN


I think as we're all dressed up now it would be a shame not to give it a go.

I take it Mai you've volunteered to go first?



(um, Jade - did you like the Scooby snacks video i posted, and the jackass reference was because there are several people here preparing to run headlong at a brick wall just to see what happens if thats not jackass what is?)

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:26 AM

JADEHAND


I've got a helmet.......

also, I'm wearing protective gear, I could be used as a battering ram to get through the wall......

Ah, the video, I'd never heard that before, was interesting. And on the Jackass thing... I caught the meaning... I was just being a Jackass.

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:46 AM

CITIZEN


Do any of you play RTS games at all?



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Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:55 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Do any of you play RTS games at all?



I played some Warcraft and Command and Conquer back in the day but I'm more of a turn based kind of guy.

David

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:07 AM

SERYN


explain RTS for the people who have no idea what you're on about dear.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:23 AM

JADEHAND


RTS = Real Time Strategy.
Sorry, I don't do them very often, I can't out click the computer unless I turn the speeds way down, but they are fun sometimes in LAN.

"But you sleep like a ghost with me
It's as simple as that
So tell me I'm mad
Roll me up and breathe me in
Come to my madness
My opium den
Come to my madness
Make sense of it again."
Goodbye to all that. III-The Opium Den (Brave)-Marillion
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:25 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Real Time Strategy.

Real time means that the game state updates continuously. Strategy means that the game involves directing military units in battle.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:30 AM

CITIZEN


Real-Time-Strategy game. Age of Empires, Empire Earth, Warhammer: Dawn of War, Rise of Nations and many others.

Games where you control a civilisation, it's economy and military against others. Like AoE 3 set in colonial America where you construct a colony and fight other nations for control.

Personally I just killed the French and the Spanish. Stupid little fat idiot Napolean attacked me. My Red Coats destroying his entire colony probably persuaded him that that was a bad idea.

DaveShayne:
Civilisation and so on? Actually that works sort of works I've had an idea for a game I was going to try and write, nothing special graphically just a 2D Isometric projection, but I wanted to know if anyone plays those sorts of games or similar to get opinions as to whether it would work.



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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:34 AM

KANEMAN


Does Company of Heroes count?

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:39 AM

CITIZEN


yes



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Sunday, November 19, 2006 10:43 AM

KANEMAN


I'll give you my opinion if you really really want it....No seriously, I have been playing CofH religiously and used to play a lot of Commandos. I like to think I am a RTS fan...

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:00 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Civilisation and so on?



I am a big fan of the Civilisation series.

Quote:

Actually that works sort of works I've had an idea for a game I was going to try and write, nothing special graphically just a 2D Isometric projection, but I wanted to know if anyone plays those sorts of games or similar to get opinions as to whether it would work.


Well what's the idea?

David

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:35 AM

CALLMESERENITY


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
CMS:
I went to the Post office to send your box off this morning. You're going to have to wait for awhile because postage was going to cost £69 (~$130) so I'm going to put it all into several smaller boxes, because apparently that'll work out cheaper.



Ooh! Obviously you bought me too much stuff!!

It only cost me about $40 to mail off your package.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:43 AM

CITIZEN


It's not some much the amount, but some of it is weighty. The package weighs 5kg, and Royal Mail only takes 2kg packages air mail, so any more and they use parcel force international that costs a lot more. So I'm going to break it down into three 2kg packages and send those.

Dave, Kane, anyone else, I'm typing it up now.

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:33 PM

CITIZEN


Kaneman:
I'd welcome your opinion.


I was thinking of something of quite grand scale. Most RTS games are set on small areas and specific objectives, so I was thinking of something with the scale of Civilisation, where a map can encompass the entire world, and on a giant scale (so travelling from one end of the world to the other can take ten minutes in game time).

The game would take place in a time period from pre-ancient to medieval (maybe later, depending).

In a lot of ways it would be similar to Rise of Nations, you'd build cities and those would define your nations borders, as well as natural obstacles such as Oceans, Rivers and mountain ranges. You'd also be able to conquer other nations cities and take control of them, and all the units that have that city as 'home' would join your side, but they'd still hold an allegiance to their original nation for a time, and a small percentage would become an underground militia, so you'd still have to use troops to keep the peace and fight the underground movement even after the entire nation has fallen. I'd also have an armies effectiveness affected by things like moral and fatigue, so that an army that has won every battle will be more effective than one that has lost every battle, or that has less to fight for, or an army that has marched a long way and/or recently fought would be less effective than a fresh one. Also an army would include healers that can be set up as hospital tents so that injured units can be healed during battle.

Also to enforce a proper idea of logistics and improve in game trade, supply lines and allow siege warfare resources would be local rather than global. When peons collect resource they'd dump them into a cache and have to collect them from there before they can be used. So if you construct a building that needs timber, a peon would collect the timber from a forest and dump it in a timber mill, then the builders would collect the timber from the timber mill and take it to the build site. In a similar way units would consume food (rather than requiring food to produce) and would have to periodically pick this food up from granaries, supply carts or the environment, or they start to grow ill and eventually die. Also famine and so on could cause riots, civil unrest and cities seceding from your nation.

Because of this trade would actually have a real in game purpose (rather than just being a means to generate gold like in AoE). If city A can get food but not wood and city B can get Wood but not food they can trade their excess for what they need. I'd have a different idea for resources as well, I was think Gold, Stone, Wood and Food. Resources would be infinite or sustainable (i.e. If you chop down all the trees in a forest they're gone, but if you let the forest repopulate itself every now and again they'd be infinite). Gold would probably be infinite, but there would be few mines, likewise with stone, Wood would be sustainable and Food would be both sustainable and infinite depending on how you collected it.

For nations rather than choosing the nation (like Britain, Spain, America etc) your nations attributes and personality would depend on your environment. So if you started in a cold climate you're nation would construct small closed buildings, easy to keep warm, if a more Mediterranean environment you can expect to build open cool buildings. Similarly a nation from a cold climate would have an advantage over a Mediterranean nation in a cold climate, technologically and physically, and vice versa.

I was thinking of a basic facility to create custom units, helping to give a non fixed more dynamic research structure, for instance a trade cart may be driven by horses, but by replacing the horses with oxen you'd get a slower cart capable of carrying more weight.

Because there's obviously a lot of micromanagement here, possibly to much for anyone to handle if your empire gets to be of any size, there would be the facility to add AI helpers, Mayors to run your cities, Generals to run armies, Admirals for Navies, that will micromanage while you do other things, but that the player can remove or supersede at any time.

I've actually got a lot more (been thinking about this for quite sometime) but the post is long enough and those are the major features.



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Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:34 PM

SERYN


Citizen - That all sounds fascinating, and I think I understand what you are on about.

Not that I ever have the patience to play these things, but it sound's good.

Ok, Elemdee! Shopping today, the supermarket had in little packs of Ritter chocolates, like packs of 12 mini-bars (which, considering the each mini bar is about half a dairy milks worth, is quite a lot of chocolate!), I got you the yoghurt pack and the mixed nougat/praline/yoghurt pack.

They also had one with cornflake crispy bits/mint/caramel/whateverelse it was that I can't remember in, that I could go back and get.

Seeing as I woefully underestimated postage costs, i'll have to wait a little to send them, but in the mean time, I need an address.

Talking of addresses, any one as wants a christams card this year (and i've been convinced by my sister to try making my own, so they are worth getting just for laugh's) need's to send me their's.

Mai, I got you'r pm, i'll send it along now.

And apropos of nothing - i've been bit. By an insect. In november. No such thing as global warming my a***.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:00 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


As far as RTS go, I've played all the Warcrafts and Starcraft (<-still the king based on what i've played, which is admittedly not much). I've also played the first two AoE. I really enjoy the games, but I get my ass handed to me so soundly in online games that I don't play them as much as FPS or MMOs (not that I've played much of either, lately).

-edit- I could never really get into the Civilization games...but I think it's that I can't stand the turn based strategy games. I really, really suck at them, haha. Either way,

I've decided to focus on doing 3D work for now, so I think my gaming is going to be cut way back (not that i game a lot as it is).

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:03 PM

LIGHTMEDARK


Quote:

Originally posted by seryn:
Ok, Elemdee! Shopping today, the supermarket had in little packs of Ritter chocolates, like packs of 12 mini-bars (which, considering the each mini bar is about half a dairy milks worth, is quite a lot of chocolate!), I got you the yoghurt pack and the mixed nougat/praline/yoghurt pack.

They also had one with cornflake crispy bits/mint/caramel/whateverelse it was that I can't remember in, that I could go back and get.



O.O i think i love you. is there anything i could get for you here in the US to trade?

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Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:08 PM

SERYN


Aw, its nice to be loved.

Frito's!

I've been going on about frito pie, and my family are intrigued.

We've managed to extort my uncles chilli recipie out of him, but can't find any decent substitute for the frito's.

Plus. nice and light for the postage!

Do you want me to get the other box of flavours? I think cornflake crispy sounds intriguing personally.

EDIT: oh but i've just noticed the time - i have to go to bed! g'night. x

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:19 PM

KANEMAN


"and a small percentage would become an underground militia, so you'd still have to use troops to keep the peace and fight the underground movement even after the entire nation has fallen"

That I really like.

"Similarly a nation from a cold climate would have an advantage over a Mediterranean nation in a cold climate"

This I like even more.

"for instance a trade cart may be driven by horses, but by replacing the horses with oxen you'd get a slower cart capable of carrying more weight."

That is cool.

Well, it sounds like it would be a blast. You have obviously put a lot of thought into this. Seems like there is mucho detail in this. Good luck. Fill us in when it's in production....







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