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Originally posted by Haken:
That's somewhat old news. FFF.NET is working much better now. The database was moved to another server Friday night, which seems to have resolved some of the speed issues that the site was having.

With the large number of visitors we have daily, many of whom are viewing the site all together at the same time at any given moment, I think the site is actually doing pretty okay in terms of handling the load.

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Originally posted by Haken:

By design (because I didn't know any better 4+ years ago when I built FFF.NET) this site is inherently slow. So any sort of problems we have these days just compounds the performance issues.

Am I going to rewrite the code or rebuild the site to make things go faster? Probably not. Well, maybe if Firefly comes back as a series or there's another Serenity movie, then at that point, yeah, a definite yes. Till then, we'll just fly slow and steady.

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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
I think the biggest problem is a traffic increase due to Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, 'cause the same thing happened at drhorrible.com and whedonesque.com last week, and that's when a lot of the problems started here, right? It's not nearly as bad now, but I've now noticed that I usually can't access FFF during high-traffic times like in the evenings.

I hope this helps to send you off in a better direction.

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Originally posted by fillygirl:
...I work in IT, I know it was a bitch to fix, can I ask what you did or found out was the problem? Thanks again, YOU ROCK!

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:



Now Sig. Its his site, we are lucky he lets us sponge off him and we should all say thank you for his hard work.

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Honestly, if you don't have the time to maintain a site, than why not accept one of the many offers to hand off development (and/or help)? Then perhaps the users wouldn't have to deal with the nonsense of having the site go down or otherwise unavailable several times a year because of things which are entirely preventable.

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Sorry Haken, I didn't say that! That was Sig.

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Originally posted by Haken:
I think a little nonsense is forgivable every now and then, right?

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Frankly, I'm appalled that Sigma's needs are not being met.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Take that how you want, but those are the facts. Criticising him for facts is hardly out of line. In fact, it's part of the normal process of improving things. Again, I reference his first post on this thread in which he explicitly states that he won't, for whatever reason, improve things himself and worse yet, has refused all offers of help.

This isn't exactly respectful to the sites users. Especially since accepting help would have prevented or minimized all problems seen over the years.

I have no doubt that if this was an OSS software project, it would have been forked a long time ago. Because, that's what happens with "management" such as this. Unfortunately, domains can't be and there are probably copyright issues with some of the content here. So, sadly, it isn't going to happen even though this site desperately needs a rewrite.

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Originally posted by Haken:

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Take that how you want, but those are the facts. Criticising him for facts is hardly out of line. In fact, it's part of the normal process of improving things. Again, I reference his first post on this thread in which he explicitly states that he won't, for whatever reason, improve things himself and worse yet, has refused all offers of help.

This isn't exactly respectful to the sites users. Especially since accepting help would have prevented or minimized all problems seen over the years.

I have no doubt that if this was an OSS software project, it would have been forked a long time ago. Because, that's what happens with "management" such as this. Unfortunately, domains can't be and there are probably copyright issues with some of the content here. So, sadly, it isn't going to happen even though this site desperately needs a rewrite.

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I don't mind the criticism, so you are welcome to post your opinion.

I had responded to the wrong person in my previous post, please read that response because it partially addresses what you're saying.

As I have stated, this site was written in MS ASP. No one builds websites in classic ASP anymore. There are way better ways to build a fansite these days. A framework like Ruby on Rails is way more elegant.

I'm an uberfan like everyone else on here, but I'm not sure if this site warrants the effort of a rewrite. It's been 5 years since Firefly was canceled. Wouldn't all that human resource used for a rewrite be better spent elsewhere? Perhaps build a Dollhouse website or a website for some other cool TV series that might be around for a few seasons. Caprica and Fringe comes to mind.

Also FFF.NET isn't an OSS project. I don't know of any fansites that are. I have heard of fansites being built with OSS tools and frameworks. DotNetNuke and Joomla are commonplace nowadays. I've been seeing Flex too. Imagine a Dollhouse fansite built with Flex. That'll be a worthwhile project.

Anyway, my feelings are I see no point in continuing development of FFF.NET in a dead language and I see no point in rebuilding FFF.NET in a new framework for a long canceled series.

Now, if everyone is willing to build another fansite in RoR, we can certainly OSS that.

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Originally posted by Haken:

Anyway, my feelings are I see no point in continuing development of FFF.NET in a dead language

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Originally posted by FollowMal*:

To answer your question about the official sites...
the Uni site as you know went down and Gossi made serenitymovie.org.

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The OB ( the original board ) is still there and going strong ( it amazes me that Fox keeps it up! )

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although the talk about FF/S is intermittent just like it is here

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and the off topic threads, particularly poll threads get more posts.

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Haken: but I'm not sure if this site warrants the effort of a rewrite. It's been 5 years since Firefly was canceled. Wouldn't all that human resource used for a rewrite be better spent elsewhere? Perhaps build a Dollhouse website or a website for some other cool TV series...

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Haken: Anyway, my feelings are I see no point in continuing development of FFF.NET in a dead language and I see no point in rebuilding FFF.NET in a new framework for a long canceled series.

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Originally posted by zzetta13:

A well deserved "Thanks Haken" for your time
Z

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Originally posted by Steamer:
However, I'd like to ask you respectfully to consider that the site still gets a great deal of traffic every day. Even though the series has been over for quite a while, the fandom by no means died with it. I've seen an influx of introductory threads and blog entries just in the past few months - new fans are still joining the ranks and signing up on a site that seems to have established itself as THE Firefly fansite, a fine and fun community for fans and friends. Sometimes it's mind-boggling what you do to keep it going for everyone as it is, but IMHO, the amount of activity around here, and the effect it has on the site, is hard to overlook. Because I don't think many users are much of the mind to take flight and find a new place to commune.

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Originally posted by Haken:

As I have stated, this site was written in MS ASP. No one builds websites in classic ASP anymore. There are way better ways to build a fansite these days. A framework like Ruby on Rails is way more elegant.

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Originally posted by Haken:

Also FFF.NET isn't an OSS project.

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Originally posted by Haken:

Anyway, my feelings are I see no point in continuing development of FFF.NET in a dead language and I see no point in rebuilding FFF.NET in a new framework for a long canceled series.

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