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SCI FI Network lied about M. Night Shayamalan biography

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UPDATED: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:16
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Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:43 AM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


Damn. I have to admit, it worked. Made me wanna watch it to see what inspires Shyamalan to tell the kind of stories that he does. I'm watching it anyways since I'm a fan, but, damn, got me good. I actually wouldn't have minded finding this out after I've seen it. I guess NBC is the big party pooper here.

From CNN:

Quote:


NEW YORK (AP) -- The Sci Fi Channel admitted that it lied last month in claiming it was at odds with filmmaker M. Night Shyamalan and was making an unauthorized biography about his "buried secret."

The hoax was part of a "guerilla marketing campaign" that went too far, network president Bonnie Hammer said Friday.

The network announced in December that the reclusive Shyamalan, maker of "The Sixth Sense" and "Signs," had agreed to participate in a documentary about his life to run in connection with this summer's release of his new movie, "The Village."

Sci Fi said last month, however, that Shyamalan had soured on the documentary when the questions got too personal. Documentarians Nathaniel Kahn and Callum Greene pressed on and made a three-hour film, "The Buried Secret of M. Night Shyamalan," without his cooperation, the network said.

The Associated Press wrote about the documentary last month, and other media also ran accounts. In an interview, Greene described how Shyamalan's "cooperation dried up." A network spokesman told the AP that Sci Fi was confident it had legal grounds to air the film and would probably never work with Shyamalan again.

In a news release, Sci Fi said Shyamalan had attempted to shut down production of the "disturbing expose."

It was all a lie, and there is no buried secret, Hammer said Friday.

The documentary, scheduled to air Sunday, says a mysterious drowning of a child in a lake near Shyamalan's boyhood home in the Philadelphia area had profoundly affected his life and fueled his interest in the supernatural. That's not true either, Hammer said.

"We created a fictional special that was part-fact and part-fiction, and Night was part of the creation from the beginning," the network chief said.

Moviegoers walk away from Shyamalan's films not knowing what was real or not, and "we wanted to do the same thing in a special about his life," she said.

Sci Fi did not send a complete copy of the film to television critics, but sent a half-hour tape of highlights this week that, in some spots, hinted it might be a mockumentary.

Actor Adrien Brody, a star of "The Village," is interviewed in the documentary saying that he was sworn to secrecy about everything in the movie. Asked if he had short or long hair in the film, he refused to answer.

"Perhaps we might have taken the guerrilla campaign one step too far," Hammer said. "We thought it would create controversy and it probably went one step too far."

Hammer said she had been in on the hoax from the beginning and took responsibility for duping the public. Sci Fi, which is available in some 83 million homes, has recently been taken over by corporate parent NBC Universal.

"This marketing strategy is not consistent with our policy at NBC," said Rebecca Marks, NBC entertainment spokeswoman. "We would never intend to offend the public or the press and value our relationship with both."

Greene, a producer of "Lost in Translation," shares an agent with Shyamalan.






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Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:32 AM

SHINYHAPPYKLIN


I think it's time to get rid of Bonnie Hammer...things have just gone from bad to worse with her at the helm of SciFi. I really resent their attitude that scifi fans are emotionally immature, sexist, sensationalistic little dweebs that will buy anything they throw in front of us just because it says "scifi" on the label.

Oh, and the little "space vamipires" they're throwing into Stargate:Atlantis made me lose interest REAL quick on that show...

"We gotta go to that crappy town where I'M a hero..."

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:27 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


Did you believe "The Blair Witch Project" was real, too? I don't think the "guerilla marketing" of the two are that different.

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:39 AM

SHINYHAPPYKLIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Did you believe "The Blair Witch Project" was real, too? I don't think the "guerilla marketing" of the two are that different.



As soon as I saw the promo for the MNS bio, I turned to my husband and said, "ah, they're doing a Blair Witch set up!" I just think people are more sophisticated than to believe all the hype about "buried secrets", etc.

I wish SciFi would treat their viewers as having higher than normal intelligence, because I would expect that the demographics for scifi fans probably does skew towards higher IQ scores. Now, this doesn't mean that there aren't issues with social and emotional functioning among some fans, but that's no reason to treat us as unable to tell truth from fiction, just because we choose to spend time in fictional universes...

"We gotta go to that crappy town where I'M a hero..."

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:00 AM

SPOOKYJESUS


That's a valid point - the best Science fiction from Novels, to movies to TV is the kind of fiction created with higher intelectual principles in mind. (Be they technical of philosophical)

Just from looking at the marketing of alot of stuff it's easy to see that the principle behind them is

Sci-fi = weird shit = Nerds = cult audience = money for years to come cause those wacky nerds will buy anything so long as we say Sci-fi.

I don't have the sci-fi channel but looking at there out put....... I don't know. I think what I'd expect is a network with the sensibility towards making fiction (Drama or comedy) that HBO do except that the fiction that they make is centered around things a little more other worldly.

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:34 AM

DRAGONFLYDIRECTOR


Bonnie Hammer must go. Period.

Nuff Said?

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:26 AM

LAILING


When I read the blurb in TV Guide that Mr. Shayamalan was "boycotting" the bio, I believed it - not because I can't tell truth from fiction, but because of how obnoxious some media people can get: anybody remember the Barbara Walters interview controversy of the 90's? (She was accused of being vicious to interviewees in order to garner very emotional responses that would bring higher ratings. [Specifically, the infamous Cher interview.]) In other words, I believed it because I am cynical about the media.
Then, my husband told me that Mr. Shayamalan did continue to cooperate with the documentary, and I realized something was fishy. I'm sorry to see that the "something fishy" turned out to be a nasty publicity ploy. Which only proves that I have something to be cynical about.

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:30 AM

KARENKAY99


i actually thought this was a hoax when i saw the commercials till i read in tv guide this week that shyamalan was boycotting the show and they thought it was gonna be juicy.
is tv guide in on it too? or were they also duped? guess we might get a cheer or jeer about that next week. :)
ha, they had fooled me for a bit. i'm so embarrassed.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:11 PM

SPOOKYJESUS


I wouldn't say TV guide were duped - I'd say they just printed the press release.

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Monday, July 19, 2004 6:06 PM

FAIRY10


i do not know or understand what you are saying about sci fi not seeing its viewers as intelligent. believe it or not i have seen things and felt things that are not from this world or better said not in this world anymore. used to be. like shyamalan said he wants you to believe in something you may not have 2 hours before(i know he didnt mean it, he just said that,he just makes things up that are interesting.)the ducumentary was just a hoax and i knew that from the beginning, but i think people should believe in things that do not seem real only because you have never experienced them and you probably never will until you do believe.

fairy10

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Monday, July 19, 2004 6:09 PM

FAIRY10


although i just knew it was fake you have to know there is no reason why it wouldnt be. people have connected to the other side. there is nothing fake about it.

fairy10

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Monday, July 19, 2004 6:12 PM

FAIRY10


you shouldnt feel stupid if you believed it at all. you should feel good that you believe that there is another side because there is. if you believe you will be there one day too.

fairy10

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:40 AM

SHINYHAPPYKLIN


Quote:

Originally posted by fairy10:
i do not know or understand what you are saying about sci fi not seeing its viewers as intelligent. believe it or not i have seen things and felt things that are not from this world or better said not in this world anymore. used to be. like shyamalan said he wants you to believe in something you may not have 2 hours before(i know he didnt mean it, he just said that,he just makes things up that are interesting.)the ducumentary was just a hoax and i knew that from the beginning, but i think people should believe in things that do not seem real only because you have never experienced them and you probably never will until you do believe.
fairy10



I'm not saying that you shouldn't have faith in things not seen or that some people dismiss, BUT that you should be very discerning in WHAT you believe in....I think part of our purpose on earth is to use our intelligence to improve our world and lives. I cannot ignore things that make my "BS Meter" in my head start pinging....and the way they promoted this documentary was one of them.

If you enjoyed the show, great. I might have actually watched it (I do like MNS), if they hadn't have been so sensationalistic about it. A straight forward telling of the guy's life and motivations would have been much more intelligent and interesting to me. Ever seen Bravo's "Actor's Studio" interviews show? I think that's an intelligent TV show, that really helps you know the people they interview...SciFi should have gone more that route, and understood that scifi fans like to be entertained, for sure, but when it comes to FACTS, give us the facts in a straightforward way! We DO use our brains, and I hate their assumption to the contrary.



"We gotta go to that crappy town where I'M a hero..."

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:38 AM

FAIRY10


i said that because someone mentioned that they thought that. i thought it was ridiculous.

fairy10

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:45 AM

KNIBBLET


Honey, that whole thing screamed of mockumentary publicity stunt and was timed to premier at the same time as "The Village".

No amount of press releases can put a shine on a turd and that was an obvious turd from the start.

What saddens me is to think that Night thought he needed that to generate interest in the Village. Now it's making me have second thoughts about the quality of the movie.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:48 AM

SLAYER730


I didn't see any advertising for the mocumentary except the tidbits that SciFi showed. I had no idea that M. Night was supposed to be "boycotting" the thing. I watched it, and I thought it was pretty obvious that it was fake. Still, it was well done, and kept my attention for the entire 3 hours. So I say good for SciFi - they got me to watch a 3 hr mocumentary about a filmmaker that I don't even really like. I guess they did their job.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:52 AM

JCOBB


I don't know why I watched it, but looking back I really regret spending three hours of my life doing so.

For an hour or so they had the camera rotating around the guy who was supposedly making the documentary. I just couldn't bring myself to care.

I don't care, I'm still free.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:17 AM

DANFAN


I have my own opinions about the truth/falsehood of supernatural events. But those opinions are unrelated to my feelings about the MNS "documentary."

I was not tipped off by the advertising... I gave them the benefit of doubt. However, the first 10 minutes of the special convinced me that it was fictional entertainment programming masquerading as documentary. That realization left me tremendously irritated. I tuned in to learn something new and interesting. Instead, they wanted to entertain me with something of no lasting value. Had I tuned in the show looking for fictional entertainment, that would have been fine. Instead, I took them at their word. Thus, I felt cheated. I was disappointed that SciFi chose to spend its corporate credibility so carelessly to lure its viewers into a classic "bait and switch" scenario.

The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. Like the Who said, "I won't be fooled again..."

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Friday, July 23, 2004 11:17 AM

FAIRY10


i think he makes great movies. why dont you? hes very creative. i think if this was not his past then he has a great immagination!

fairy10

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Friday, July 23, 2004 11:43 AM

FAIRY10


people simply make things up, it is just a fact. who cares though? i thought it was interesting and i know for a fact it is true. after death, you will be in heaven or hell. after we die we are still alive. it is only in a different way. i personaly do not like fake things unless they seem very real and i think he or shyamalan did a great job doing that. i still do not like people faking to do or be something they are not.think about this though....if someone is going to write or do whatever about something it is only because they are interested in the subject or they just want to make money. why would he be interested? why? i can tell you why i would, but it is a long very long story so bye!!!

fairy10

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Friday, July 23, 2004 11:48 AM

FAIRY10


are you there? my name is christina.

fairy10

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Friday, July 23, 2004 12:08 PM

FAIRY10


no shiny happy i havent watched, but i would love to hear more! what exactly to you mean by what you said being, more discerning in what i believe in? the only reason why we are here is to improve the earth. until it is gone. where will you go? heaven..i think. u think a lot like me.............................seems anywayadriana

fairy10

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Friday, July 23, 2004 12:16 PM

FAIRY10



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