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BATTLE OF SERENITY VALLEY.

POSTED BY: JAMERON4EVA
UPDATED: Monday, November 30, 2009 16:56
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Monday, November 30, 2009 3:04 PM

JAMERON4EVA


Okay i know that we all know that the Independents lost the battle, Gorram ALLIANCE, but i have always wndered, what exactly happened at the battle? Who made what moves when?, and what was the death ratio? If anyone can point me in the right direstion, then i'll be much obliged.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 3:51 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


I don't think the battle itself has ever been explored by Joss or in fanfic.

We do know that almost all of the Independent officers were killed leaving the leading to NCO's like Mal.

He had about a thousand soldiers under his command at one time(a testament to his leadership abilities) but by the time the battle was over and the Independents had been left on the battle field for several weeks to die of their wounds, starvation and just plain despair while the 2 sides parleyed there were only handfuls left.

I do know that Joss was inspired after he read "The Killer Angels", the Pultizer Prize winning novel by Michael Shaara. It's about the Battle of Gettysburg.

And you can get a map of Serenity Valley from Qmx, but it's pricey.



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Monday, November 30, 2009 4:13 PM

JAYDEPPS


In the deleted scens of Firefly it covers a bit of Mal's death totals. I forget what it was, but out of his 30 only Zoe lived, then he commanded either 1,000 or 2,000 due to all the officers dying early in the battle. By the end of the battle he had about 500 I think. Then both sides met for treaty talk, but left the men their to rot. After negotiations med ships came and Mal had like 150 I think. Don't quote me on exact numbers.

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Monday, November 30, 2009 4:56 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Excerpt of the script for the deleted scene from Serenity (the episode) via fireflywiki.org this gives you a few answers and a tantalizing hint to another.

ENCYCLOPEDIA
In the war to unite the planets, The
Battle Of Serenity was among the most
devastating and decisive. Located on
Hera, the valley was considered a key
position by both sides, and was
bitterly fought over.
The Independent Faction, with sixteen
brigades and twenty air-tank squads,
held the valley against Alliance
forces for almost two months, until
superior numbers and a brilliant deep-
flank strategy by General Richard
Wil --

ZOE
What does it say under 'bloodbath'?

Simon turns off the book, seeing Zoe in his doorway.

SIMON
I'm was just trying to --

ZOE
We're not in there. The book, I
mean. We're not generals or
diplomats, we didn't turn the tide of
glorious history or whatever that
thing is supposed to spew.

SIMON
You know what they say: History is
programmed by the winners.

ZOE
Nearly half a million people lay dead
on that field at day's end, about a
third of them 'winners'. Can you
imagine the smell? Can you imagine
piling up the bodies of soldiers --
of friends -- to build a wall 'cause
you got no cover? Blood just kept
pouring out of them, you'd slip in it
half the time, find out bloodbath is
not just a figure of speech.

SIMON
Mal was there with you.

She enters, sits across from him.

ZOE
He was my sergeant. In command of
thirty-odd grunts -- five days in,
there were so many officers dead he
commanded two thousand. Kept us
together, kept us fighting, kept us
sane. By the time the fighting was
over he had maybe four hundred still
intact.

SIMON
That's a hell of a --

ZOE
I said the fighting was over. But
you see they left us there. Wounded,
and sick, and near to mad as can
still walk and talk. Both sides left
us there while they 'negotiated the
peace'. For a week. And we just kept
dying. When they finally sent in
Medships, he had about a hundred and
fifty left, and of our original
platoon, just me.

David

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