Forty-Second Floor: Time To Work On Our Nine Times Tables. by CallMeSerenity

And then we could all move in with you, Oh Sean, our Lord and Master?

It's very pretty, I like the bowling alley.

Can I have a bedroom with one of those giant baths? I'll share.

With cozen.

Um, but no. What I was saying is that what you need is MAI TIME! Cuz that makes everything better.

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Monday, April 16, 2007 2:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
You haven't lived until you've tried scrambled eggs and smoked salmon on toast for breakfast. Oh and Champagne and Orange juice.

I can do without the smoked salmon and the orange juice.

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:29 AM

I've always (even as a carnivour) disliked ham.
just generally opposed to pork.... with a couple of exceptions.

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:40 AM

Ahh.

Deja Vu.

Who? Deja Vu, that's who.

First you trash me in the thread (first time totally direct and totally unwarranted and unjustified).

Then...

You inundate any response I post with trivial talk about alot of nonsense.

THEN

You move to another floor.

You've totally raped the 42nd floor and robbed it of any claim I once made. Anything I say now will be trivial. But, that's how you operate.

And I'm a troll?

-Dessicated Abortion

Once again, you are whores who don't deserve my sig. Don't worry I won't "invade" any floors beyond this one. Been called a desicated abortion, who knows what will come next from the l33t pplz who own the forums.

Motto for you: Squelch dissent. Trounce, pounce, and utterly destroy. Own everything and pretend to be righteous.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:57 AM

btw.. I call it "Deja Vu" cuz it's the exact thing you did the last time you outcast me from this thread. I got slammed, trash-talked to, and then when I tried to respond, the same old crew of people came in and buried any chance of a defense in moot crap-posts.

Still I defended, and when I got enough traction..

new floor.

42nd floor is all yours. So is 43 and everything above it.

you win.

what you've won I don't know. all I know is I'm a dessicated abortion, with your blessings.

Wow life is evermore precious when we have such an abundant quantity of people who can conjure up such imagery.

-Dessicated Abortion (the ? formerly known as XG)

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:23 AM

Chapter 62: Ice Machines

Serenity,
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Bride8
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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:51 AM

LIGHTMEDARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
I've always (even as a carnivour) disliked ham.
just generally opposed to pork.... with a couple of exceptions.

brother! where have our similarities gone? I hate breakfast while you love it, I'm a huge fan of pork while you are not...what has this slightly tattered and worn-down world come to?

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:43 PM

DAVESHAYNE

Chapter 63: Fog machines.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LightMeDark:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
I've always (even as a carnivour) disliked ham.
just generally opposed to pork.... with a couple of exceptions.

brother! where have our similarities gone? I hate breakfast while you love it, I'm a huge fan of pork while you are not...what has this slightly tattered and worn-down world come to?

Ha! I'm not sure what the world has come to. Like I said there are exceptions, actually there are many exceptions. Okay, I'm really just opposed to Ham. Most of the other pork is fine.
Interesting things are a foot. We should chat if you're around tonight. I'll be up late.

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:01 PM

MAI

Chapter 64: Jungle Gym
Chapter 65: Swing Set
Chapter 66: Slide

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:04 PM

Chapter 67: teeter totter
Chapter 68: the tennis courts

Serenity,
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Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:38 AM

Quote:
Marx was wrong about the solution but he was sure as hell right about the problem.

Ahh our beloved Groucho Marx. Err.. I think you're talking about Herr Karl. Somehow I had a sneaking suspicion you were a looney lefty.

You whine about your financial problems, and blame all your ills on people more successful then you. Vive la Revolucione. If you'd spend some quality time developing an income you could buy/rent a villa in Spain or France or Boston or wherever radical leftists like yourself like to live.

I just bet you're prolly pining for the good ole days of Soviet hogemeny of Eastern European "socialism" <-- (codeword for communist tyranny), before the eternally wicked Ronald Reagan, Maggie Thatcher, and Pope-whatshisname stamped out your way of thinking.

Go get a job. Earn some money, save, invest, etc.

Buy a house, rent one, whatever. Stop whining and blaming your financial problems on everyone except the one person who can fix it (umm.. who is that? gee, is it the ugly pervy face you see in the mirror?).

-Dessicated Abortion

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

yes.. my sig is back. BUT, I'm still doing a hunger strike 3X a day.. once between breakfast and lunch, once between lunch and dinner, and the 3rd between dinner and breakfast the next day.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:14 AM

XG:
I'm willing to bet I earn more than you. Much more in fact, last I heard drinking beer and watching Donkey porn wasn't one of the worlds big earners, but hey maybe you're really good at it and they pay you extra, who knows.

Now, I seem to remember your mentioning that you were leaving, although I am not shocked by the revelation that your word is worth about as much as your contribution to humanity (masturbating to pictures of livestock has never, to my mind, been exactly on a par with the painting of the Sistine chapel). Neither am I surprised that you are not man enough to live up to your own word, however it would so pleasantly surprise us all.

What, were you shocked and saddened that we didn't all drop to our knees and beg for you to return to us? Surely not, being such a common occurrence? As your mother said “Leave and never come back it sickens me to look at you.”

Please, don't let the door hit you on the way out, I like a bit of slapstick as much as anyone, but the victim does need to have some dignity, or it's just not funny.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:46 AM

And now, back to our regularly scheduled fun having...

Chapter 69 (hee hee): The Coca Cola Factory

Serenity,
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Bride8
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:30 AM

SERYN

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
I know what would make you feel better.
The winning ticket for the Euromillions £140,000,000 rollover?

I could buy this:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-6585082.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-13024310.rsp?pa_n=1&tr_t=buy

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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ok, did anybody else notice that those two house both have the same staircase?

no, look, go look - first link, picture 4, second link, picture 2!

Stair time share! honestly, you're paying all that money, you'd at least think you'd get a staircase for your self.

cheap, cheap.

But - 70k - how many browncoats would we need to band together to buy a 70k house? If its less than 24, we may have the start of the Browncoat commune!

but, could we re-decorate? its really tacky - that kind of tacky only the extremly expensive can get - it looks like a footballer would live there.

aw... and i keep having dream about buying a house - they always have hidden rooms with huge seating areas, those baths that serenity likes, and massive glass windows (though not around the baths, obviously - even in my dreams i'm big on the privacy...) strange, but more fun thatn the baby or packing dreams. its like location loaction, in my own head, and no irritating rich bints with no imagination.

oh, look! i'm giddy and waffling.

Sean, good luck with that house - just good luck in general, i hope something works our right, house buying i'm told is as much about luck as it is about work and strategy - so good luck.

do we still have a troll problem? i think its time we asked for a clean up crew maybe.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:10 PM

Quote:
no, look, go look - first link, picture 4, second link, picture 2!

There erm, the same house. It's just listed about twenty times on right move.

I don't think anyones buying it because of the 70 million tacky garish issue.

And of course we could decorate, if you can afford a 70million pound home I reckon you could decorate it.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:25 PM

KAREL

Flying on duct tape and a damaged registry.

"It has been a long long time, such a long long time. Hasn't it?"

--Karel.

"Wondrous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun and joy to everyone that rides along." -- Jeff Lynne, Electric Light Orchestra.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:35 PM

KAREL

Flying on duct tape and a damaged registry.

Quote:
Originally posted by cozen:
Pancakes, baby! Um, "flapjacks", I believe, for the fine Amerifolk. Smothered in Grade 'A' Québec maple syrup. With a slice or ten of strip bacon. And a fresh kiwi on the side, sliced. To drink: fresh squeezed orange juice, and authentic French hazelnut & vanilla coffee, just milk, no sugar.

I wonder how much platinum kiwi fruit would fetch on the open market on the Rim planets in the Firefly 'verse, eh?

That would be Grade 'eh?' Québec maple syrup (yum), for the English and French speaking.

SNORT!
--Karel.

"Wondrous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun and joy to everyone that rides along." -- Jeff Lynne, Electric Light Orchestra.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:38 PM

Hi Karel.

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:55 PM

MAI

Chapter 70: the merry-go-round.

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Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:18 PM

SERYN

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
no, look, go look - first link, picture 4, second link, picture 2!
There erm, the same house. It's just listed about twenty times on right move.

I don't think anyones buying it because of the 70 million tacky garish issue.

And of course we could decorate, if you can afford a 70million pound home I reckon you could decorate it.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
, so i was tired last night and not looking properly. two different pictures where the house looks totally differnt - i mean you can't see it on one for all the blinky lights - and i couldn't be bothered reading things like words!

its you're fault anyway for linking it twice. so why is it two different prices?

as for the price issue... if we all decided to win the lottery, i think we could do it.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:51 AM

Hey, I'm all up for getting the £70million house. I can contribute about £500! Okay, maybe a bit more after I sell all my worldly goods. £700!!

Can we keep some of the stuff, Seryn? I really like the staircase and I think the outdoor pool is really pretty. The tacky walls on the bowling alley will need to be redone, though. We should do some sort of Firefly mural.

KAREL!!! And the Trollbuchet! YAY!!!!!!

It's like the calvary arriving. I swear, I hear trumpets!!

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:22 AM

DRACONUS

Ok, so I'm a little behind and a bit lazy this morning. So why are we getting this house?

May you have enough.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:14 AM

So we can all live in it, of course.

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:17 AM

COZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by Draconus:
So why are we getting this house?

Obviously so that the Floor/Nook gang can sublimate yer lives to providing minion services to CMS & I in the luverly, if extravagant mansion Citizen has so thoughtfully provided us.

We likes it clean, and we likes our gourmet dishes, in addition to our massage and towel services. Right, Serenity? In return, we offer subsistence wages, with benefits packages negotiable.

***
Hey: in the UK, most medical and dental costs are covered, kinda.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:17 AM

DRACONUS

All of us?
Hmmmmmm.
I think we're gonna need a bigger house.

May you have enough.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:25 AM

Ahh I knew that would get you to climb out of your protective shell. Nothing like invoking famous names to set of a marxist.

Let's see... let's rehash old history. You and Scorpionregent were unrelenting in insulting me in this thread many many floors ago. I, thinking your digs into me were meant in jest wanted to keep my response lighthearted. I quoted the French Arquebusiers from Monty Python's "Holy Grail"... not exactly hard core "trolling", especially since I didn't fire the 1st salvo in the exchange. I get called a "dessicated abortion" by him (what a vile subhuman he is to call me such a thing).

Then I get labeled a "troll" for posting a copy of his screed in the Troll forum (and you chime in on his defense many times). Every time I'd debate any point in many unrelated threads (always being civil), someone would add something to the effect of "Just ignore him, he's a troll". After a while it just got tiresome and frustrating... to be marginalized because of a false rap.

So if I have to live with this absurd "troll" label, then let it be known to everyone in these forums how it came to be.

Let's make sure they always remember the dynamic duo who called me a dessicated abortion. You're a marxist so you believe in the whole concept of upper and lower classes (another absurdity, one that has led to the slaughter of 200+ million people in the last century). I say the both of you are beneath the lowest class of human beings imaginable to rant against me with such imagery. A class unto yourselves. The prisons, insane asylums, France, and Peoria Illinois are full of people like the both of you. Ok ok I dunno about Peoria (never even been there) but safe bet about the other 3.

And my leaving had everything to do with RL and nothing whatsoever to do with these forums. As I've said, I was in far-away lands slaying dragons, saving the world. ;)

Someone has to save the over-evolved hairless apes who infest the surface of this blue-green rock.

I think I'll drop the dessicated abortion thing. It nauseates me to mention it. I just want it burnt into the minds of everyone in FFF.net what kind of low life trash you are. I can live with the "troll" label (true or not). Just wanna make sure the fine people of these forums know WHY and HOW and WHO besmirched my good name.

Seriously dude... that disgusting term... that's demented and warped. I'm thinking mental illness territory.. him for saying it, you for defending and justifying it.

Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.

-XG

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cozen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Draconus:
So why are we getting this house?

Obviously so that the Floor/Nook gang can sublimate yer lives to providing minion services to CMS & I in the luverly, if extravagant mansion Citizen has so thoughtfully provided us.

We likes it clean, and we likes our gourmet dishes, in addition to our massage and towel services. Right, Serenity? In return, we offer subsistence wages, with benefits packages negotiable.

Shhhh! cozen! We weren't gonna tell them that....yet!

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:38 AM

SEXDISEASE

Quote:
Originally posted by XeroGravity:
The prisons, insane asylums, France, and Peoria Illinois are full of people like the both of you. Ok ok I dunno about Peoria (never even been there)

So you've been to prisons and insane asylums then?

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:48 AM

XeroGravity,

You are allowed to have your aggrevances, whether real or imaginary. I don't care. What I do care about is you coming into our threads and stirring up trouble. This is not the place for it. Take it outside.

If you came here, acted respectfully and contributed to the conversations, we would have treated you with respect in return. But, all you do is come in, make ridiculous and inappropriate claims and accusations. Why should we pay attention to you? Why should we treat you curteously when you can't do the same for us?

Who is going to take you seriously when you refuse to respect the rules of our little society? How do expect to be anything but a shunned outcast? You are like a fly buzzing at the windowpane. An annoyance, and nothing more.

So, either take your trash talk elsewhere, or sit down, shut up and behave like an adult.

And then maybe we'll treat you like one.

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:57 AM

DRACONUS

I just noticed something. Given this thread and the last thread, are we wroking on our nine times tables with new math? And if so, how exactly would that work?

May you have enough.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:00 AM

I dunno. I can't do old math!

Serenity,
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
Wielder of the Magic Frying Pan of Sleep

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:04 AM

SEXDISEASE

Quote:
Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
Man? What is man? He's just a collection of chemicals with delusions of grandeur.

Woman? What is woman? She's just a collection of chemicals with delusions of superiority.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:52 AM

Quote:

CallMeSerenity wrote:
Thursday, April 19, 2007 04:48
XeroGravity,

You are allowed to have your aggrevances, whether real or imaginary. I don't care. What I do care about is you coming into our threads and stirring up trouble. This is not the place for it. Take it outside.

If you came here, acted respectfully and contributed to the conversations, we would have treated you with respect in return. But, all you do is come in, make ridiculous and inappropriate claims and accusations. Why should we pay attention to you? Why should we treat you curteously when you can't do the same for us?

Who is going to take you seriously when you refuse to respect the rules of our little society? How do expect to be anything but a shunned outcast? You are like a fly buzzing at the windowpane. An annoyance, and nothing more.

So, either take your trash talk elsewhere, or sit down, shut up and behave like an adult.

And then maybe we'll treat you like one.

I defy you to find a single instance of lying in anything I've said. If you do, and you attach a link to it, I'll verify it and thus apologize.

I never lie. That's my problem. I'm blunt and brutally honest. Doesn't make me very popular, but all I've said here is true. Not imagined. List a sinlge lie I've ever told in these forums relating to my replies to other people.

As for this thread, 42nd floor, not being the place for it... I said many many floors ago (easily verifiable) that the 42nd floor was mine and mine alone. Do not trespass there once we reach it. Yet here we are. I return from overseas and check FFF.net for the first time in a long time to see you are all at the 41st floor. I'm an atheist and a non-believer in "fate" or "karma" or "destiny", but I have to question my own doubts. I called claim to the 42nd floor a long time ago and even said so a floor ago (#41). Outcast, as you call it, and voila. I return and you're on the cusp of entering my floor. I reminded you it's mine, but still here you are.

Who is trespassing?

Here we are.

I'm stirring up trouble. You're the one invading MY floor. For all the shame and humiliation visited on me, you could have skipped up one floor as I asked.

42 is a magical number in my mine. I'm a faithless heathen whore of the worst sort in philosophical terms, but I'm an honest and respectful one. Honest - I always speak from the heart. Respectful - if someone laid claim to a floor so long ago, given their ancient history here (whether I hate them or not), I'd respect the sanctity of their claim.

Even if I wanted to steal it and totally "troll-trash" them for personal vendetta, I'd respect the sanctity of their longstanding history.

So verify your insinuations. I invite you to read the "Loveletter from a Serial Killer" thread in Troll forum and then follow the bread crumbs. Find where I've lied. Do so publicly here and now and I'll admit to it.

-XG

Once again I feel like I'm trying to live down this false reputation of being a troll. I'm no such thing. I'm not always kind and gentle in my posting, but at least I'm honest.

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:03 AM

Ooh! Ooh! Let's all lay claim to things that aren't ours.

I claim Switzerland! It's mine. Switzerland and all it's chocolates!!!

Hey! What are you eating?

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SexDisease:
Quote:
Originally posted by XeroGravity:
The prisons, insane asylums, France, and Peoria Illinois are full of people like the both of you. Ok ok I dunno about Peoria (never even been there)

So you've been to prisons and insane asylums then?

whoops meant to address you in the last post.. sorry I'm unhinged atm (some might argue I'm always like this especially in these forums).

Life is a prison. Everyone who doesn't belong there is secretly the authors of this hallucination.. they are sitting in asylums imagining everything. This isn't real.. these are the musings of someone in a straight-jacket inside a padded cell.

We're figments of that nutjob's imagination.

The "nutjob's" name might (or might not) be, "Citizen" ((more likely "might") ...yes another taunt.. don't make me have to quote Python to get u to come out swinging you Marxist dawg.

-XG (Opium for the mooses) (I'm real popular with moose-kind.. elk and deer are still debating me, and rats and sperm-whales were already fanatical devotees of me right out of the gate.. once you got the rats in your camp, game over.. you win)

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:27 AM

XG:
Okay, I'm a Marxist (I'm not but whatever) and you're a neo-Nazi. As such I have no reason to continue feeding your Trolling after this post.

Point one, you're history is well off. I never did any of the things you accuse me of, what I did do is defend myself with a couple of posts when you attacked me in the 'serial killers' thread. I understand if your warped mind is incapable of recalling this data sufficiently.

Point two, there are more than one class of people, this is self evident. Any moron (one would hope even a fetid piece of afterbirth such as yourself) can tell that some people have more than others, whether you call this "rich and poor" or "lower/upper class" or "XG and humans" is rather irrelevant. However the very point of Marxism was to destroy the classes to make them equal you doughnut brained fool. While trying to make your self look all 'enterlygernt' you've failed rather spectacularly eh.

Now I get that you wish us to stop making these threads in order for you to show that you are as powerful as you're fevered narcissistic ego requires you to believe you are. These threads will not go away because a boorish intellectually challenged egotistical moron is singularly incapable of being anything but a low life twat. Please fuck off back under the decomposing shit heap from whence you came, presumably the multitude of other websites that have already banned your sorry vacuous flabby troll arse, because all that can happen here is the eventual flaccidity of your pathetic e-penis as your oversized ego catches up with reality.

Sincerely, A human being.
(If you study extra hard maybe you'll be one someday too)

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:03 AM

Citizen:

If I hate "Marxism" I can't possibly be a Nazi. Neo or otherwise.

Who was Hitler?

German Marxist.

What is "Nazi" a contraction of in the German language?

National Socialism.

And what is Socialism?

Repackaged Marxism.

Hitler was a Marxist, no less bloodthirsty than any other Marxist.

And to debate the truly reasoned-out points of what you say.. I refuse whole-heart-and-soul to accept classism in any way shape or form. I refuse to accept it because I'm born in America.

We have no classes. Everyone starts out with equal opportunity. Not necessarily equal wealth from their parents, but still, equal opportunity. Anyone can rise above the fray and make good no matter how humble their beginnings. Look at Bill Gates. Humble origins, no blue-blood, didn't have money.

Just smart and driven. He's the wealthiest man on Earth (not the most powerful, nor the wisest, yet the wealthiest.. and most generous donator of charity - even smoked the Rockefellers).

My homeland produced him and millions of others like him (not quite as successful as him but still).

If a computer nerd can climb the walls, anyone can. Him, and a multitude of others like him are proof positive that we make our fate in this world.

If you think Marx was correct in determining "WHY" people have money problems (i.e.- a handfull of wealthy aristocrats have all the wealth concentrated in their hands and use it to oppress the underclass), then you can't divorce yourself from the inevitable solution he offers... which is:

Socialism/Communism/Marxism... destroy capitalist economics, seize personal property and wealth, redistribute it, isolate and concentrate the opposition into camps, re-educate them thru slave-labor, then murder them once spent. Setting up a police state is also part of making it happen. Look at Venezuala... they "democratically" elected their Hitler and now the opposition is being imprisoned and murdered off systematically. Can't have people like that standing in the way of the Marxist solution to poverty. Necessary Sacrifice.

200+ million is the body count because of this hiedous murderous idea. It's still growing and on the march in spite of everything. I love it when a Marxist says "Marx was right about the cause" and then somehow pretends they can separate themself from the "class warfare" solution. I'm sorry.. can't separate the concept of class from the warfare involved with it.

Leftist civil wars in South America, genocidal ethnic-cleansing from leftist movements in Africa (Darfour, etc.), Marxist regimes all of them.

So please tell me how anything Marx ever said is wonderful.

I can quote Hitler if we enter into a debate about how wonderful and loving canines are. Let's face it.. he butchered 55 million people in WW2 and marched 6 million Jews into concentration camps (good Marxist, poorly implemented) but he loved dogs. Surely a man who can love a dog has some redeeming value? Let me quote him or praise him somehow. Hitler had "some" redeeming qualities cuase he loved dogs. Karl Marx apparently does in your mind. He figured out the WHY of our troubles. And he offered a solution.

200+ million corpses later, we just simply haven't figured out how to properly implement the solution to the problem he indentified. Luckily we have people like you who clearly see we just need another approach.

-XG

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If I hate "Marxism" I can't possibly be a Nazi. Neo or otherwise.

The Nazis fought the Communist party in Germany and were socialist in little more than name. I'd suggest a history book but I'm not sure your care worker has the time to read it for you.

I'm not going to defend Marxism, I've already told you I'm not a Marxist, if spelling it out any plain enough to that shrivelled lump of pig ejaculate you call a brain isn't enough I'm not going to continually repeat it.

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Look at Bill Gates. Humble origins, no blue-blood, didn't have money.

You are kidding right?

His parents were rolling in money and had more connections than you could care to count. Humble origins? His parents bought him an $800,000 beachhouse in his early 20s, if only we all had such humble beginnings.

America has the most prevalent class system of any westernised nation, sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing the developed worlds lowest social mobility doesn't make it go away. Scandinavia has more equal oppertunity than the US for crying out loud.

Now I'm done with you, go away you foul piece of distended rectum.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:15 AM

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Citizen:

If I hate "Marxism" I can't possibly be a Nazi. Neo or otherwise.
The Nazis fought the Communist party in Germany and were socialist in little more than name. I'd suggest a history book but I'm not sure your care worker has the time to read it for you.

I'm not going to defend Marxism, I've already told you I'm not a Marxist, if spelling it out any plain enough to that shrivelled lump of pig ejaculate you call a brain isn't enough I'm not going to continually repeat it.
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Look at Bill Gates. Humble origins, no blue-blood, didn't have money.
You are kidding right?

His parents were rolling in money and had more connections than you could care to count. Humble origins? His parents bought him an $800,000 beachhouse in his early 20s, if only we all had such humble beginnings.

America has the most prevalent class system of any westernised nation, sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing the developed worlds lowest social mobility doesn't make it go away. Scandinavia has more equal oppertunity than the US for crying out loud.

Now I'm done with you, go away you foul piece of distended rectum.

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First.. I take issue with your perspective on history. WW2 was the struggle between Marxist Germany and Marxism in general at it's outset. Not a popular take on history but true. Who would be the supreme commisar of the socialist utopia that was to come? Would it be Herr Hitler? Would it be Tsar Stalin? In either case, other Western countries were simply dominoes that have to be toppled and made socialist thru conquest (or, as it's practiced in modern times, subversion).

Second... 80 percent of all the millionaires in America don't even have a high school diploma.

High School dropouts. People "doomed" to do hard labor in industrial plants for low wages, or flip burgers in McDonalds. Alas, unable to escape the life they were born into, they did their jobs, scraped together pennies on the side refusing to accept their pre-ordained destiny of hopeless toil at a low wage. Once they had enough pennies squirelled away they opened up a business of their own manufacturing this or that part in their own (damn you classist capitalist dogs! damn you)

The inustrial-slave started his own little garage-based industrial plant, the burger-flipper prepared fine-dining quisine from everywhere on the map in his wildly popular backwoods 5-star, etc.

Hard work, 16 hour days, 7 days a week for years on end. Only in a capitalist country. Once you're poor enough and hungry enough for long enough the desire is born.

If you have an overwhelming desire to do something and you would rather die than not succeed at it, you'll succeed. But only in a capitalist country. At least in my country. Perhaps (as you've stated) you do have more money than me, but I'm one of those people struggling to make my lil' shoestring dream of business turn me into the next bazillionairre. My ambitions are noble. I don't want wealth or success for the sake of money. Once there, I don't won't wealth cuz I want to squash little people or parade around as the proud cock of the roost in expensive sports cars. I'll never glow with pride as I brag about my various mansions and yachts cuz I'll never own such things.

What does a capitalist like me want?

I wanna eat good food (perhaps stuff grown in my own garden). I want to find me a good woman and make babies, philosophize about trivial crap as the wine bottle goes empty and the fireplace embers burn out, I don't want to be in debt to anyone or have others direct my future, etc.

If I get a hankering to becoming a buck-nekkid oil-painter of stick-man ninjas locked in mortal combat with highly intelligent shades of the color blue on the streets of downtown New York, or an Olympic-class underwater basket weaver with tattoos of cheesy Firefly art all over my body, I want the right to make that choice.

In every Marxist country on the planet, people like that are marched off to death camps. Undesirables. Radicals who can't be re-educated to conform into the model of serving the greater good. Exterminate them, liquidate them, eradicate them.

I'm a capitalist.. I believe in free market economics. I believe in freedom of all sorts (in fact if you knew how liberal I am when it comes to basic human rights and civil liberties, you'd be the one calling me a leftist).

I'm more libertarian than anything else I suppose.

I was unaware of what you claimed about Bill Gates but (if true - and I'm not doubting you) it does not negate the truth of what I'm saying. Don't need $800K beach-houses to pull it off... I'm the guy who has been squirreling away his pennies and laboring ad nauseum till I could be in a place to go for it.

-XG

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:18 AM

PS - I have no clue how or why that is all is weird boldism or whatver the hell the opposite of "boldism" would be..

"weakism" ?

weird fluke of the [REPLY] feature. I'm fated by the gods for such oddness.

-XG

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:29 AM

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I wanna eat good food (perhaps stuff grown in my own garden). I want to find me a good woman and make babies, philosophize about trivial crap as the wine bottle goes empty and the fireplace embers burn out, I don't want to be in debt to anyone or have others direct my future, etc.

The first bloody half sensible thing you've said.

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I'm the guy who has been squirreling away his pennies and laboring ad nauseum till I could be in a place to go for it.

look, I don't want to debate it with you, but check it out for yourself. The US has the worst social mobility of any developed nation. The UK, the most capitalist nation of Europe, has the worst social mobility of Europe, including the Scandinavian and Ex-Soviet bloc nations. Pure unrestrained capitalism doesn't give equal oppertunity to succeed. It is the very anthisis of it. The fact that pure Communism is against personal success beyond your peers is neither here nor there.

You'll find if you really look at it that the more you meld capitalist economics with socialist social theory the better the prospects of the little guy are. The Scandinavian countries are amongst the most socialist in Europe, though still with a capitalist economy. The poorest there have more chance of succeeding than anywhere else in Europe, and just about any country in Europe has a higher social mobility than the US. Look up the figures for international social mobility if you don't believe.

Now really, I am done, this thread is not for this. I won't reply again.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:09 AM

Don't reply again. I gladly give you the right of bowing out from the debate all unresponsive (this is too beneath you).

But I'm telling you this plain and simple. Hurl your "tele" out the nearest window into the ocean. How hard can it be? You're British... sceptered island in a silvery sea. The BBC is the most anti-American propagandist pipeline ever to exist in modern age. Hitler lost the war, but the Marxist cause still soldiers on. It found it's voice in that hideous station.

Thank the powers that be we threw you SOBs out of our country a couple centuries back. Don't get me wrong.. I love the UK. I love the people, the culture, the general degree of stimulating conversation from anyone and everyone you meet. But this whole hatred of American way of life never seems to quit with some elements. Weird love-hate thing. Always the same background though.. provincial types who've never actually been here and watch the BBC morning noon and night.

I tell you defiantly.. NO! You can't have your colonies back. Lose the BBC and maybe we'll erect a 7 inch tall statue of King George in the foothills of Wisconsin (not quite sure wisconsin has hills, and if they do, do they actually have foots attached?).

Your view of my country is skewed beyond all imagination. You want to see the real America? Come over here with the British equivalent of chump-change in your pocket (I dunno, maybe a 1/2 inch thick stack of paper with pictures of your queen... actually, I'm not sure if you went Euro and metric yet but I hope not). Strap on a backpack, hop a bus to anywhere. Mix it up with the real people, go on a walk-about, see it with your own eyes. See the truth. Our "downtrodden masses" you see on the news will make the upwardly mobile socialist socialites of Scandinavia look like paupers. Their biggest concerns are how to cope with tennis elbow and chapped lips and whethere or not to order take-out from a Chinese or Thai restaurant. It's nothing like you seem to think it is (and trust me I've been all over the damned place from coast to coast - "well travelled" is an understatement).

Citizen... you, sadly, are completely and totally indoctrinated into alot of Marxist propaganda. We don't have real poverty here. In fact, the definition of poverty has been hijacked by Marxist elites with Manhattan penthouses to fit the way you think of it. Go to a war torn 3rd-world country, then come visit America. Tell me if we're as classist as seem to think we are. Nobody here is starving. Literacy in the high 90 percentiles. No police state (not yet at least). Becoming more Orwellian though.. sad truth. Cameras everywhere on every major highway. But..

Work aplenty. Anyone who wants to work, no matter how screwed up their life is, can ALWAYS find work and an income. Some people though, choose not to. No matter how many opportunities you throw at them some people choose to never a lift a finger to improve their lot in life. Hell... if America is so oppressive to the lower classes, then why are we being inundated morning, noon, and night by an endless swell of foreign people who want to come here?

They should be running in the opposite direction, trying to get as far away from us. Ask anyone from any other country anywhere on the face of this blue-green rock hurling thru space which country they would most like to live in if they were exiled from their home.

You already know the 1st answer to that question.

-XG

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:18 AM

I have been to America.

The numbers don't lie, I've seen the raw data and I'm not working on the BBC's say so.

Stop looking at the rest of the world through anti-non-American filter of fox news and leave me alone, and seriously stop lying about me.

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They should be running in the opposite direction, trying to get as far away from us. Ask anyone from any other country anywhere on the face of this blue-green rock hurling thru space which country they would most like to live in if they were exiled from their home.

You already know the 1st answer to that question.

I'll go take a census in the middle east.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:28 AM

Citizen, guess what I had for lunch today?

Curry!

It was divine. A new Indian restaurant opened up in town.

Serenity,
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Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:31 AM

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=28269

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:48 AM

When you do your census make sure to go right into the heart of Baghdad, even in the high-profile areas where the violence occurs (less than 2 percent of the country is it?).

You think that war is about America's insatiable appetite for oil. That's the line the BBC (Al Jazeera for the Western world) has spewed out every night over the years.. a long slow drone of propaganda. Trust me.. people over there monitor all the major news stations so it's no mystery what each country's news outlets are saying (that includes the soldiers hunkered down in their respective bases). Ask the Iraqis what they think it's about... find someone direct from Baghdad and ask them. The answer is something you'll never hear on the BBC. If they could get visas to the US (which sadly they can't), there'd be 49.9 million Iraqis in the US atm.

But you'd never ask cuz you don't want to know. Your mind is made up, so lets not bother you with the facts.

-XG

See I knew it. You could never let me have the last word. Oh btw.. the "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:55 AM

SERYN

Ok, can we stop prodding it and ignore it now? I'm getting very bored and its a pain in the ass having to scroll through all of its dribbling to get to some decent conversation.

I really thing it is time to put in a request to Haken to get it deleted and blocked, is that possible?

Ah well, what were we talking about? You know i haven't had a curry in so many many many months. Now craving one, with that almond naan bread stuff... yummy!

ok,we have to go find an indian place at D*C. And to that end - I went and got a second job! My first (trial type) shift is on saturday - a hen party, bapstism of fire if ever i heard one! but hopefully it will put paid to my dithering over whether i can actually go or not! wheee!

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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