Quote:

---

Originally posted by G:
Turns out we're getting a new TV today - yippee! The one it's replacing is 11 years old - holy sh*t! 2004 tech... back then it was a flagship tv, now it's a dingy with holes in it. We squeezed every pixel we could out of her - thanks old girl!
So my wife and I watched a couple minutes of this Jo, and it was great - we're looking forward to testing out the YouTube access capabilities on the new box and seeing this ep that way.

Imho, we didn't deserve him as our president, weren't ready, too afraid of change. He was too modern for this country and not political adept enough to survive the Republicans.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Lesson: Always make sure the sand box smells better (to a cat)
than the furniture does.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Did he just go gray-haired in 7 years?

Not having fun?


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by G:
Imho, we didn't deserve him as our president, weren't ready, too afraid of change. He was too modern for this country and not political adept enough to survive the Republicans.

---

Quote:

---

Imho, we didn't deserve him as our president, weren't ready, too afraid of change. He was too modern for this country and not political adept enough to survive the Republicans. - G

Anybody who has what they believe is a free-thought in their brain and yet finishes the entire 3 paragraph idea with their "chosen" political ideology is not ready to have a free-thought in their brain.= 6IX

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm waiting for the day when you all elect your first Native American president.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OONJ, dreaming about electing a native American lesbian or whatever is pretty pointless. Can't we dream bigger?

---

Egad! Is that what I said? ...
... I had no idea. ...

Not sure I can swallow all the words you're putting in my mouth.



BTW, who IS bigger than a native American Lesbian?

Quote:

---

Take yourself seriously much?-OONJ

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by OONJERAH:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm waiting for the day when you all elect your first Native American president.

---

I know. Let's elect an Native American woman president.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by OONJERAH:But my notion is that Americans are not
enlightened enough to elect someone who is both even if such a
candidate were the most qualified.- OOJERAH

Eh? Barack. Hussein. Obama? Former drug user, White/Black man from Hawaii of mixed/Nigerian ancestry studied at Harvard? Anything/anyone can happen

---

Quote:

---

First you say my answers are too complex, now you say they're too simple.

The irreducible fact is that most people are WORSE OFF now. It may be simple but it's fact. But hey, keep on telling yourself that everything's a-OK, because... gay rights, yanno? = SIGNY

I can't imagine EVER saying your answers are "too complex" - generally too wordy, for sure, but not too complex. The issue you are addressing is TOO COMPLEX for your simple answer - that's also usually true.

"The irreducible fact is that most people are WORSE OFF now." I know it can seem like that for everyone when things aren't going so well for you. Time maybe to tell hubster to get another job - fwiw everyone's hiring where I live. But hey, keep on telling yourself that everything sucks, because... Obama, yanno? = G

---

Quote:

---

I think you are amongst the peepl who havent manajd to catch the wave sins Obama got elected, Sig.

---

Quote:

---

Me neither, but I can see most uv the country did.

---

Quote:

---

It coud hav been a huje global cataclizm leaving us in a Road Warrior senario.

---

Quote:

---

The new show will be called "Keeping up with the Obama's". We'll get to watch Barry play endless golf and watch his wife eat Lobster. It'll win an EMMY every year it's on.

---

Quote:

---

I beleev I sed this befor, Sig - the prezident iznt the King. If the office had more power, I'm sure he woud hav gotten alot more dun. And probably woud hav much less gray hair.

---

Quote:

---

I think you are amongst the peepl who havent manajd to catch the wave sins Obama got elected, Sig. Me neither, but I can see most uv the country did

---

Quote:

---

SIGNYM = FRAUD

---

Quote:

---

Yeah, I took Econ in high school so this was pretty much covered in the first week - thanks for the trip down memory lane.

---

Quote:

---

"Obama failed to prepare for it." 'Cuz, yanno, it's all Obama's fault.

---

Quote:

---

Hartnett thinks that the market just does not appreciate how serious that sub-50 ISM PMI is.

"Recession risks remain mispriced: profits highly correlated with PMIs and in both US & China PMI’s weak," he said. "Note ISM <45 level has coincided with US recession 11/13 times since WW2."

Because Hartnett is considering an ISM PMI below 45, the measure becomes a much more robust leading indicator.

---

Quote:

---

We can argue detailz uv wut Obama did forever, but wut wuz possible for him at any time iz another matter.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by JO753:
If I wuz prez, I woud hav cleared the books for all home ownerz except anybody in manajment at any financial institution! In other wordz, if you had a morgaj, you woudnt anymore - the house iz yourz.

The new rule woud be that wenever therez a finacial crash, all dets are lost. That woud end the boom&bust system that the money shufflerz uze to steal all the welth.

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JO, I have not forgotten how bad things were. I was following extremely closely, from before it even became apparent, and posted so here, often, that the financial sector was going to take a dive, even as Republicans were saying that the economy was ON FIRE!

That is why I was so focused on who Obama would appoint for Treasury Scy.

Let's agree to agree that Obama stayed the avalanche. Whether he did it by the best means possible, it was done. But once the avalanche was stayed, then what? In his first term, he had overwhelming support, AND a completely Democratic Congress. What was his excuse then?

Quote:

---

We can argue detailz uv wut Obama did forever, but wut wuz possible for him at any time iz another matter.

---

Apparently, REPRESENTING US was beyond his power. Even you think so.

You insist on seeing him as a man of good intentions, overwhelmed by TPTB. What I focus on is what he did when nobody was looking ... what he did in secret, from his Presidential powers. He stabbed us in the back then too.

You seem to think that I'm criticizing Obama like a Republican, from the right. I'm actually criticizing Obama FROM THE LEFT, if that makes my POV clearer. Not everyone who criticizes Obama is a rightwinger Republican.

--------------
You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

---

Quote:

---

I get that enough wasn't done, although some of it was already in the works before Obama set foot in the Oval office, but where do you get your info that Obama "secretly" used his presidential powers to further screw us?

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

---

I get that enough wasn't done, although some of it was already in the works before Obama set foot in the Oval office, but where do you get your info that Obama "secretly" used his presidential powers to further screw us?

---

Well, maybe the Constitution doesn't mean much to anyone, but the first thing that Obama did IN SECRET is everything that Snowden told us about: we are being surveilled without restriction. There goes the Fourth Amendment ... pppfffft! No writ, no warrant describing the person and things to be searched, no cause.

In addition, the SECRET DRONE PROGRAM which allowed Obama to be judge, jury, and executioner of American citizens ... no right of trial and jury of peers, no habeas corpus or requirement to show cause. Entire additional sections of the Constitution ... ppffffttt!

Then there are the CIA black ops, funded outside the Congressionally-approved budget.

None of this would have come to light if it hadn't been for Snowden and other whistleblowers, who Obama is prosecuting with a vengeance! Obama, you should recall, was a Constitutional lecturer. He knows what he's breaking, and there is no question that he started this in secret and intended (and still intends) this to STAY secret, and will keep as much secret as long as possible.




--------------
You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yeah, you're right The Constitution doesn't mean much to any red-blooded American anymore.........what with Cowboy Clive doing his thing out there
in the boonies of Hillbilly Nevada or some such.

---

Quote:

---

But we're talking about Obama aren't we.

---

Quote:

---

So, you think that Snowden is a hero? One question: If he's such a hero, then why did he run?

---

Quote:

---

Why did he blow the whistle? What was his motive? Actually, I could investigate that

---

Quote:

---

He stole a shitload of documents, that much I know. Claims Americans, innocent Americans were spied on...........Hmmmmmm, where did I hear that before?

---

Quote:

---

Again, I digress. This is about Obama and his secrets which, of course, no other president before him has had.

---

Quote:

---

Then Congress should impeach him, shouldn't they?

---

Quote:

---

They have control of both houses don't they? Oh, what evil lurks in the heart of the "colorful" president born in Kenya.

---

Quote:

---

By the way, have you ever heard of the Patriot Act? Just asking!

---

Quote:

---

Gee, how clever of Obama to do that way back in 2001.

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by JO753:
I giv alot uv leeway to prezidents. Even if I disagree with wut they are doing, I assume they know more than I do and its posssible that wut looks stoopid to me iz bekuz uv sumthing I dont know.

---

Quote:

---

Even tho its clear that Bush went after Hussain based on liez, I am still 50/50 az to wether it wuz a bad thing. There iz probably stuff we wont know till much later in the century that woud chanje your mind.

---