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What Happens to a Frequent Liar’s Brain

New research provides the first empirical evidence that self-serving lies gradually escalate and shows how this happens in our brains.

Small lies tend to turn into bigger ones and desensitize the brain to dishonesty, where certain areas of the brain respond less to the negative emotion. It was found that the amygdala — a part of the brain associated with emotion — was most active when people first lied for personal gain. But the amygdala’s response to lying declined with every lie while the amount of lies escalated.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
hillary lies about EVERYTHING, from her position on NAFTA to what a great success Libya was to US first-strike policy.

But hey reaverfan, if you're lying to yourself about that - and it's a common problem with hillary supporters for sure - then by all means keep yourself in that fact-free bubble you like so much.

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Politifact doesn't subject hillary to the same level of scrutiny.- KIKI

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So I actually think the most important question of this evening, Chris, is, finally, will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the Russians are doing this and make it clear that he will not have the help of Putin in in this election, that he rejects Russian espionage against Americans, which he actually encouraged in the past? Those are the questions we need answered.

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Well, that's because he'd [Putin] rather have a puppet as president of the United States.

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you are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do, and that you continue to get help from him, because he has a very clear favorite in this race.

So I think that this is such an unprecedented situation. We've never had a foreign government trying to interfere in our election. We have 17 -- 17 intelligence agencies, civilian and military, who have all concluded that these espionage attacks, these cyberattacks, come from the highest levels of the Kremlin and they are designed to influence our election. I find that deeply disturbing.

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17 intelligence -- do you doubt 17 military and civilian...

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the United States has kept the peace through our alliances.

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I also will not add a penny to the debt.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
hillary lies about EVERYTHING, from her position on NAFTA to what a great success Libya was to US first-strike policy.

But hey reaverfan, if you're lying to yourself about that - and it's a common problem with hillary supporters for sure - then by all means keep yourself in that fact-free bubble you like so much.

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1kiki, which number is bigger? 71 or 26?

Politifact fact-checked more than 300 Trump claims. About 71 percent of them rated Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.

Politifact fact-checked close to 300 Hillary claims. About 26 percent of her statements rated Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/27/donald-trumps-top
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www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/27/hillary-clintons-
top-10-most-misleading-claims/

1kiki, which number is bigger? 71 or 26? Spin a story for us, 1kiki.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
fwiw I also found hillary's omissions just as important. This is one I noticed immediately, and it has to do with the Fourth Amendment which clearly states "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

No debating morons SECOND. Both SIG and 1kik go around the facts so they can get back to fantasy land as quickly as possible.

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This is just like hillary's smug - and bogus - claims that Trump is unfit to have his finger on 'the button'. She knows that a president can't launch a nuclear strike just on a personal say-so. And she knows that long-standing US policy is to reserve the right to launch nuclear weapons FIRST. But that doesn't stop her from pretending otherwise.

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Originally posted by second:
Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
I don’t have 1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary based on whatever are 1kiki's emotions.

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No debating morons SECOND.= THUGR

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Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
I don’t feel anything about Hillary, but I do feel Democratic. I don’t have 1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary based on whatever are 1kiki's emotions.

Joss Whedon’s Verdict shows a different set of passions! His ad reminds us what else the 2016 election is really about...

On Wednesday, Joss Whedon’s Save The Day PAC released my favorite ad of the 2016 campaign season. Titled “Verdict” and available in both English and Spanish, the two-minute long ad depicts a day in the life of a Hispanic family interspersed with television and radio commentary about the pace of voter turnout — low overall but high in some areas. At the end, the news is ready to announce the winner and a little girl asks her dad, “Papi, can we stay?”

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... anyone with half a brain sees it as a heartstrings-tugging piece of advocacy for Hillary Clinton. It had me in tears.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
second isn't for the poor, the forsaken, the downtrodden, the suffering, the powerless. If she was, she wouldn't have dismissed Bernie out of hand because he was stooped. second is a bought and paid for whore.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Poor thuggr is a brain-damaged fool who probably couldn't get out of the rain by himself if he tried. I know it because despite looking like an idiot over and over and over and over and over - he can't get an inkling that maybe he's doing something wrong - let alone how to to do anything differently. As for neo-liberal krappo, in a delicious example of karma at work, Brexit fell on top of him. And now all he has to rally for are his own tired propaganda slogans. The world works in mysterious ways.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

C'mon second, please PLEASE double down on your lie - that I have some vague, emotional, unexpressed, poorly defined animus against hillary that you can't quite put your finger on - only this time, for the camera! I dare you, you lying cunt.

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In response to second, 1kiki wrote thousands of words on an obscure website that will only be read by a dozen people and most of those few people 1kiki finds contemptible. That is passion, 1kiki. You could have stopped at 200 words, but you couldn’t stop yourself, which is exactly like my neighbors when they talk about any Democrat.

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C'mon second, please PLEASE double down on your lie - that I have some vague, emotional, unexpressed, poorly defined animus against hillary that you can't quite put your finger on - only this time, for the camera! I dare you, you lying cunt.

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What you did is no big deal: Even my next door Republican neighbors have very expressive, well defined, extremely detailed explanations of why Hillary should not be President. They can repeat that performance for Obama, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, LBJ, JFK, Truman, FDR, etc. Did you know that FDR is responsible for Pearl Harbor? Ask the neighbors and they will tell you how FDR lured the Japanese into attacking, which made it impossible for the Republicans in Congress to keep America at peace.

According to my neighbors, all were terribly flawed Presidents and should never have been elected, according to these Texas Republicans. And, by the way, Ronald Reagan was a saintly President who saved the USA! He brought about peace with the USSR!

In response to second, 1kiki wrote thousands of words on an obscure website that will only be read by a dozen people and most of those few people 1kiki finds contemptible. That is passion, 1kiki. You could have stopped at 200 words, but you couldn’t stop yourself, which is exactly like my neighbors when they talk about any Democrat. 1kiki again demonstrated the point that “Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason” and “1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary”.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]

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Russia trolls get contract extension
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60719

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The Republican Party was unable to stop Trump during the primaries because it could never come to grips with who he really is and what he appeals to. Conservatives just won't admit that Trump normalized an unashamed race-based populism. They've never been willing to stomach the political cost of acknowledging this.

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I believe "stomach" is slightly misleading - it makes it sound like they had a moral, emotional center that was "offended" and not one based on "WH at all costs - eff anyone who gets in our way!" But I take their point.

They did not (nor did anyone else) have any idea Trump's brand of open Hate would work so well, or they would have embraced it before he did. It will be interesting to see if they adjust their algorithms by 2020.

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Originally posted by second:
Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
I don’t have 1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary based on whatever are 1kiki's emotions.

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Come on! Let's just gas 'em! Get it done with.- GSTRING

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In fact, second NEVER responds to the post. But after steadfastly ignoring it, it buries it as quickly as it can after YOU so clumsily bring it up again.
But I'll prove to you that second is a professional, or at least a wanna be.
How? you might ask. Buy posting the original, again. - KIKI

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Originally posted by second:
Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
I don’t have 1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary based on whatever are 1kiki's emotions.- SECOND

You have no clue because you're an idiot - or you CLAIM to have no clue because you're a liar. My bet is on liar, because I've been EXTREMELY clear about what I don't like about hillary and I've repeated it at least three dozen times.
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=1 page 1

Hillary's record as Sec State is replete with serious judgment errors (private server, bombing Libya), claimed lack of information (re the US running arms out of the US embassy annex in Benghazi through Turkey to ISIS - she claimed she didn't know arms were being shipped, and then that she didn't know they were going to ISIS), and support for neo-con action (Victoria "fuck the EU" Nuland, who was taped selecting the US pick for the next Ukrainian PM after the coup). And she voted for the Iraq war.
Along with her vote for the US Patriot Act, and her support of so-called 'free -trade' agreements, her record is full of indications she'd be an interventionist hawk, escalate confrontations with Russia and China, use and expand spying on ordinary people, and support corporations at the expense of us, the people of this country.

Hillary Clinton doesn’t get it: Paul Krugman, Bernie Sanders and the truth about the free trade scam

I agree about her hawkishness. It seems to me that she wants to continue provoking Russia, under the assumption that Russia won't respond directly militarily, especially not with nuclear weapons. She's going to presume on Putin having endless restraint, though he's already said he'll use nuclear weapons if threatened. She seems like she'll keep poking the Russian (nuclear) bear with no goal or stopping point. So, where does her confidence in her omniscience come from? Is it because Libya went s well? Or Ukraine? How did Syria turn out? Either Libya et al turned out exactly according to plan, or she's pathological.

Hillary's voting record, her warmongering record as Secy of State, her collusion with neocons, her support of prison corporations, her profitable relationship with international corporatists, her support of 'free' trade agreements (all of them) or her stated policies, for example, her support of Israel no matter what. I'm about what kind of economy we'll have, whether or not we'll be at war, and will it be with Russia, how much spying will we be subject to, and other vital questions.

her record is full of indications she'd be an interventionist hawk, escalate confrontations with Russia and China, use and expand spying on ordinary people, and support corporations at the expense of us, the people of this country

The Middle East is engulfed in flames because of Bush’s decision to invade Iraq (aided by Democrats like Clinton) and unintended consequences, or blowback, like ISIS.

"She compared issuing Russian passports to Ukrainians with ties to Russia with early actions by Nazi Germany before Hitler began invading neighboring countries," Saltzgaver told BuzzFeed.

I agree about her hawkishness. It seems to me that she wants to continue provoking Russia, under the assumption that Russia won't respond directly militarily, especially not with nuclear weapons. She's going to presume on Putin having endless restraint, though he's already said he'll use nuclear weapons if threatened. She seems like she'll keep poking the Russian (nuclear) bear with no goal or stopping point. So, where does her confidence in her omniscience come from? Is it because Libya went s well? Or Ukraine? How did Syria turn out? Either Libya et al turned out exactly according to plan, or she's pathological.

her stated policies like for example her support of Israel no matter what

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=2 page 2

second, Well, Hillary IS evil. I'd say bombing a previously stable Libya into a failed state full of despotic wannabes and jihadis, fomenting a coup against a democratically elected Ukrainian government, and running arms out of Libya and to ISIS in Syria count as evil. Wouldn't you? So, let me ask again: in light of her on-the-record evilness, which she's neither renounced nor modified, why should I vote FOR Hillary? What about my future with Hillary is so awesome that I should rethink my evaluation of her?

Because, when it gets down to it, Donald is far less likely to get us into a war.

I think hillary's the person who sees the Kochs as quaint, provincial, limited, backwater - in other words, minor and ignorable - compared to the international powers they've been playing with, and on whom they've staked their future.

Trump is a chaotic unknown, but he's not beholden to the war-mongering neo-cons that the war-mongering Clinton is. This could be an existential decision. And I don't want Clinton at the helm, playing chicken with Russia, the way she did from her lowly position as Secretary of State.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=3 page 3

she supports down-ticket candidates
Except, she doesn't. Her campaign has Hoovered-up 99% of that money.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-littl
she's a democrat
Who remarkably doesn't care about 45%+ of what voting democrats think.

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One very long article that definitively portrays Hillary the Hawk - but fails completely and without exception to explain why her bent to confrontation under every circumstance would turn out well. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-
a-hawk.html

Speaking of a corrupt party: Hillary, Debbie and Roberta

So, war with Russia is a possibility. Wonderful.

I'm supposed to change my opinion of Hillary and forgive her for Libya, Ukraine, and Syria because she's like General Leia? Mai got. Is this what passes for analysis? For thought? For reason and proportion? Is this the best reason to vote for her that Hillary's got going?

Third World War, the Key Is On “Start”

Hillary Clinton is lying about the criminal U.S.-backed coup in Honduras. It should be as scandalous as Libya

We've already talked about her negatives - potential indictments, unconcern for the working and middle class and focus on big-money interests (those free trade agreements she was for before she was sort-of against; cozy big-bank relationships), famously insincere and hypocritical on the issues, running a campaign of identity politics; revolving-door wealth through the Clinton Foundation, State Department, and individually; corruptly in bed with the corrupt minions of the democratic party, a history of VERY BAD judgment on Libya, Ukraine and Syria - which she refuses to acknowledge and correct, and, my all-time favorite, neo-con war-hawk jonesing for a nuclear confrontation with Russia (probably by miscalculation, but hey, it's not like she has a history of serious miscalculations or anything! nope, if you listen to her everything's all good!).

I'm an 'anybody but Hillary' kind of voter, for reasons I've explained more than once. But I'll go through MY reasons, again.
With the smoking ruins of US Libyan policy, Ukrainian policy, and Syrian policy laid at Hillary's feet, with her bellicose statements against Russia on her website, with her 'Israel first and always' commitment, AND WITH HER REFUSAL TO ADMIT HER EFFORTS HAVE GONE BADLY AND NEED RETHINKING - I don't want her finger anywhere near the red button.
And I don't want her spoiling for a fight against anyone else who has THEIR finger on the red button.
She's pointlessly aggressive, an inveterate liar of the neo-CON stripe who has no ethics about ceaselessly misleading the country - and risking our lives, has a history of deeply flawed judgment about the US role in international dealings - and, let me say this again ...
... shows absolutely ZERO ability to admit to and learn from the things she's done that have ALL, without exception, gone completely, terribly wrong.

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My concerns are VERY FOCUSED on Hillary's neo-CON agenda in the international sphere. I don't care about her persona on stage, the fact that she's a woman (and what an abysmally sexist reason to vote for someone), or even that she's for all those 'free' trade agreements as long as no one's looking

Award-winning journalist Jeremy Scahill, one of the world’s leading experts on the secretive CIA drone program, commented, “So many liberals poo poo the Hillary email scandal for totally partisan reasons. If it was a Republican, they would be going bananas. People claiming emails on Hillary’s private server were not classified do not understand how classification works,” Scahill added. “It’s an HRC talking point.”

“It’s not going to happen,” Ihillary indictment due to unsecured private server) he (Assange) said. “But the FBI can push for concessions from a Clinton government. Fantastic. President Hillary being blackmailed by the FBI.

Clinton’s pledge to forgive student debt of entrepreneurs, not average workers, will benefit the elite

Clinton wrong on student debt: Her new plan shows she learned nothing from the primary

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Now I COULD go on for the next 5 pages from that one particular thread - and remember, all of this comes from only one-half of just one thread - but I think I've made my point.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Sorry, I stepped on your post. I'll bring up the original, again, and see if SECOND has the balls, so to speak, to address it.

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Originally posted by second:
Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
I don’t have 1kiki’s passionate hatred for Hillary based on whatever are 1kiki's emotions.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SO EXPLAIN TO US ALL HOW YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE AGAINST hillary.

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Every 1kiki post is another demonstration of philosopher David Hume’s key fact about human nature: that we are more influenced by our feelings than by reason.
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SO EXPLAIN TO US ALL HOW YOU JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I HAVE AGAINST hillary.- KIKI

We understand fine, little trumptrollistan. You're a whore for Russia, we get that.

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Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia

For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.

Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.

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Instead You are whole heartedly a nut for the Drumph.

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You haven't been coy about it. We've noticed your obvious spread thigh position and we are well aware of the ship you're sailing.

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I only await to see you come back and defend your position of Hillary hate 3-4 years from now after she's been Prez and none of the horrible predictions you scream about now have happened. I don't need to bother to ask *again* if you are willing to do the same. I know you aren't. I know what a coward you are. Can't stand up to your own convictions. Because you're a troll and you don't really care if you're wrong as long as you get you nickel per word for your posts. pffffft. Loser. :p

Kik/sig have already owned up to the fact that they will bitch out. They won't come back to assess the position they are currently taking. It's not in their character to own up to how wrong they will be proven to be, after HRC is pres and there is no war with Russia, there is no Armageddon, there is no end to humanity and the American way.

FYI ppl who may have missed it: I offered a challenge to sigkik re the fictional Trump presidency vs HRC. Come back in 3-4 years and own your predictions. Sig/kik can't handle it. They won't stand and face their doomsday trauma about Hillary as opposed to mine against Drumph. I wonder why? No actually, I don't. I know exactly why, and so do the Russian trolls.

sigkik: bitches might doubt me now but ought to believe me later when reality proves me right. You won't, but I will know. I will quote this post and your reply to it. If you are courageous enough to reply, that is. Doubt you'll take a definitive stand.
Here it is again: I say if HRC is elected there will be no war with Russia and no collapse of America as we know it. Things will continue close to status quo

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I say that if Drumpth is elected there will be dire consequences

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to the American judicial and political system.
sigkik bitches if you disagree own up now. Or be labeled...
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You're a whore for Russia ... You are whole heartedly a nut for the Drumph. You haven't been coy about it.

Then you should have no problem finding ample quotes supporting your claims. Because without them, you're just another liar going blah dah blah dah blah ... endlessly.

GO GIRL! FETCH!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, since we're already at war with Russia and we're close to collapse already, "status quo" will take us just about to where I've predicted.

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Wow - we're at war with Russia! If that's true then we better have someone qualified as our next president. What would be best: having a former First Lady and current Secretary of State as our president or a groping, racist real estate agent?

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We understand fine, little trumptrollistan. You're a whore for Russia, we get that. You are whole heartedly a nut for the Drumph. You haven't been coy about it. We've noticed your obvious spread thigh position and we are well aware of the ship you're sailing.

I only await to see you come back and defend your position of Hillary hate 3-4 years from now after she's been Prez and none of the horrible predictions you scream about now have happened. I don't need to bother to ask *again* if you are willing to do the same. I know you aren't. I know what a coward you are. Can't stand up to your own convictions. Because you're a troll and you don't really care if you're wrong as long as you get you nickel per word for your posts. pffffft. Loser. :p

Kik/sig have already owned up to the fact that they will bitch out. They won't come back to assess the position they are currently taking. It's not in their character to own up to how wrong they will be proven to be, after HRC is pres and there is no war with Russia, there is no Armageddon, there is no end to humanity and the American way.

FYI ppl who may have missed it: I offered a challenge to sigkik re the fictional Trump presidency vs HRC. Come back in 3-4 years and own your predictions. Sig/kik can't handle it. They won't stand and face their doomsday trauma about Hillary as opposed to mine against Drumph. I wonder why? No actually, I don't. I know exactly why, and so do the Russian trolls.

sigkik: bitches might doubt me now but ought to believe me later when reality proves me right. You won't, but I will know. I will quote this post and your reply to it. If you are courageous enough to reply, that is. Doubt you'll take a definitive stand.

Here it is again: I say if HRC is elected there will be no war with Russia and no collapse of America as we know it. Things will continue close to status quo. I say that if Drumpth is elected there will be dire consequences to the American judicial and political system.

sigkik bitches if you disagree own up now. Or be labeled...

...cowards.

See you in 2020.

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