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Let me quote WISHY

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Officials are supposed to use government emails for their official duties so their conversations are available to the public and those conducting oversight. But it is not illegal for White House officials to use private email accounts as long as they forward work-related messages to their work accounts so they can be preserved.

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This was from the NYT.

Now, from the NPR article ...

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White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner has used both a private email account and an official email address to communicate with other government officials, according to his attorney. Responding to media reports about Kushner's email habits, his lawyer said, "All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address."

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So, what's the problem? I think the more we find out about this, the less and less there will be of this story. In fact, it's already disappeared from the MSM, probably because they realized it was a nothing-burger. If there had been a tidbit of impropriety about it, the MSM would have been after it like a terrier after a rat.

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We've moved on to how the weather is Trump's fault, dontcha know Signey.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Here's the thing, genius.

Hillary was in/around the White House for 8 years, Jared and Ivanka have been around it less than a year. The only reason they are doing something about it now, is BECAUSE of Hillary. If they had not gone through it with Hillary, how many e-mails do you think they would have found????

They all do it and now they DEFINITELY KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE. There is NO EXCUSE for the stupidity NOW.

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Big big difference between a WH underling using a private ACCOUNT for a 100 or so e-mails , fully disclosing them, and the SecState, hiding her own, private server, in her own home, with minimal security ( which got hacked ) and allowing foreign unfriendlies access to 1000's of top secret documents, e-mails and the addresses to god who knows , lying about it to Congress, destroying govt property, etc, etc, etc...

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Rap......was anyone arrested?


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Not that I'm aware, but what is your point? Just shows how corrupt Obama and the Deep State are.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The point goes above Wishes head for a 3rd time.

That wasn't the original story posted, or what the original story said.

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She is keeping her head in her Rectum lately.

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I don't care what the original story says. The point is they all use unauthorized e-mail addresses, that is MY POINT.

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It seems that there are others who think along those lines as well:

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James Norton, a former senior homeland security official during the George W. Bush administration, said private accounts pose security risks — a criticism often raised against Mrs. Clinton.

“These private email accounts become targets of phishing attacks or other types of ways of collecting information,” he said. “It’s an issue not only for the person who owns that account, but the person who is receiving the emails. It is introducing risk into the system.”

Richard W. Painter, a chief White House ethics lawyer under Mr. Bush who is now the vice chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a watchdog group, said that there is often a “gray area” over what is considered official business. But, he said, “If it has anything to do with the president’s policy, including defending the president’s policy to the press, it’s very difficult to escape that being official.”

“I think Kushner was sloppy to do this,” he said. “I think Hillary was sloppy. I don’t think any of it was criminal.”

The private email accounts immediately triggered questions in Congress. Representative Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who was among those who most vociferously criticized Mrs. Clinton’s email use, sent a letter to the White House and federal agencies asking about the Trump administration’s personal email use.

Representative Elijah E. Cummings, the senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, asked the White House to make sure that none of Mr. Kushner’s emails are deleted.

Mr. Cummings noted that Trump administration officials had previously said that senior White House officials did not use multiple email accounts. And he reminded the White House about the grilling that Mrs. Clinton received from congressional Republicans over her email practices.

Both political parties have fought for years over the use of private email accounts. Long before Mrs. Clinton’s emails were a campaign issue, Democrats criticized members of the George W. Bush administration for the practice.

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But, of course, according to our fellow FFF.net contributors, we are comparing apples and oranges.

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What is the source of your "Quote" there?
Out of context cherry-picked phrases carefully selected, edited, kludged together by another of your fake news factories, again?
Really, again?

Wait a second - Elijah Cummings? You must be joking. Not even you could be clueless enough to actually quote that gasbag and conjure anybody would take you seriously!

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How so Rappy? He's no underling. He's the president's top advisor. Regardless, he's working for the government in the White House, given security clearance...he's not working at the DMV!

One or a thousand, doesn't matter.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
How so Rappy? He's no underling. He's the president's top advisor. Regardless, he's working for the government in the White House, given security clearance...he's not working at the DMV!

One or a thousand, doesn't matter.

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Here's the thing, genius.

Hillary was in/around the White House for 8 years, Jared and Ivanka have been around it less than a year. The only reason they are doing something about it now, is BECAUSE of Hillary. If they had not gone through it with Hillary, how many e-mails do you think they would have found????

They all do it and now they DEFINITELY KNOW THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE. There is NO EXCUSE for the stupidity NOW.

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Big big difference between a WH underling using a private ACCOUNT for a 100 or so e-mails , fully disclosing them, and the SecState, hiding her own, private server, in her own home, with minimal security ( which got hacked ) and allowing foreign unfriendlies access to 1000's of top secret documents, e-mails and the addresses to god who knows , lying about it to Congress, destroying govt property, etc, etc, etc...

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A well thought out answer to the topic of civil discussion. Again, typical!

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
The point goes above Wishes head for a 3rd time.

That wasn't the original story posted, or what the original story said.

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From the article posted above by Wish:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/private-email-trump-kus
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I don't care what the original story says. The point is they all use unauthorized e-mail addresses, that is MY POINT.

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James Norton, a former senior homeland security official during the George W. Bush administration, said private accounts pose security risks — a criticism often raised against Mrs. Clinton.

“These private email accounts become targets of phishing attacks or other types of ways of collecting information,” he said. “It’s an issue not only for the person who owns that account, but the person who is receiving the emails. It is introducing risk into the system.”

Richard W. Painter, a chief White House ethics lawyer under Mr. Bush who is now the vice chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a watchdog group, said that there is often a “gray area” over what is considered official business. But, he said, “If it has anything to do with the president’s policy, including defending the president’s policy to the press, it’s very difficult to escape that being official.”

“I think Kushner was sloppy to do this,” he said. “I think Hillary was sloppy. I don’t think any of it was criminal.”

The private email accounts immediately triggered questions in Congress. Representative Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, who was among those who most vociferously criticized Mrs. Clinton’s email use, sent a letter to the White House and federal agencies asking about the Trump administration’s personal email use.

Representative Elijah E. Cummings, the senior Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, asked the White House to make sure that none of Mr. Kushner’s emails are deleted.

Mr. Cummings noted that Trump administration officials had previously said that senior White House officials did not use multiple email accounts. And he reminded the White House about the grilling that Mrs. Clinton received from congressional Republicans over her email practices.

Both political parties have fought for years over the use of private email accounts. Long before Mrs. Clinton’s emails were a campaign issue, Democrats criticized members of the George W. Bush administration for the practice.

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What is the source of your "Quote" there?
Out of context cherry-picked phrases carefully selected, edited, kludged together by another of your fake news factories, again?
Really, again?

Wait a second - Elijah Cummings? You must be joking. Not even you could be clueless enough to actually quote that gasbag and conjure anybody would take you seriously!

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I know they really believe that they're being super clever and they have a big gotcha moment here. I can only guess that Olbermann and Maddow told them that it's true. It's nothing but a false equivalency.

If they actually did something wrong, then I'm glad to know that there is enough oversight that they got caught doing it. That is the important thing. It would be nice to think that maybe our Government actually learned a lesson and at least something good came out of what Hillary did.

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You have made a critical error. The MSM is not the Government.

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If they actually did something wrong, then I'm glad to know that there is enough oversight that they got caught doing it. That is the important thing. It would be nice to think that maybe our Government actually learned a lesson and at least something good came out of what Hillary did.

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Jared simply handed over everything, no fuss, no muss, no lawyers or delays.

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If they actually did something wrong, then I'm glad to know that there is enough oversight that they got caught doing it. That is the important thing. It would be nice to think that maybe our Government actually learned a lesson and at least something good came out of what Hillary did.

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Agreed, some good lessons to be learned and some justice to be delivered. Again, once investigators complete their part and find the smoking gun; (arrest, trial) and once the finders of fact find the facts; well, jail time. (I list the steps because I have been accused of "cutting to the chase" - in other words, skipping over the obvious execution of the law).


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Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

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Tick tock

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/court-rules-kushner-firm-disc
lose-partners-names-52641745


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe this will be the one?

It must be exhausting searching all these haystacks for needles.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well now, we are finally accepting the truth of the matter, and the inevitable.

The law is the law, is the law! Glad to see people still believe in the Rule of Law.


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Maybe this will be the one?

It must be exhausting searching all these haystacks for needles.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Clinton Foundation still under investigation too... billions missing from Haiti relief.

Tick tock

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-investigating-clinton-foundation/

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If the Clintons are guilty of committing crimes they should be held accountable. However, it's like the boy who cried wolf. For decades they have been investigated for this and that, mostly because of politics. Nothing sticks and it always ends the same.

Yes, Clinton was impeached because he lied to the FBI about an affair. Everything else concerning White Water only led to that lie. No evidence was uncovered that Clinton did anything else wrong. That cost the tax payers over 47 million. That's like 100 million in todays dollars. All that money just to catch Clinton in a lie about getting his dick sucked while in a consensual affair.

After a more than two-year investigation into Benghazi, encompassing 33 hearings held in congressional investigations and four public hearings, at an estimated cost of $7 million and counting, again nothing.

Today there are investigations in the house and senate, both controlled by the republicans. They are investigating Trump and his staffs ties to Russia. There is also the Mueller investigation because Trump fired Comey. Trump, who admitted on TV it was because of "the Russia thing" that he fired Comey.

All those Clinton investigations, all that money, for nothing. Still you can't let it go. Why, you act as though all you want is justice. Yet one investigation into Trump and his staff, one controlled by the republicans, and you guys act like the world is coming to an end. Remember, Mueller is a republican, as is much of his staff. Hypocrite, nothing but a hypocrite rappy.


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All those Clinton investigations, all that money, for nothing. Still you can't let it go. Why, you act as though all you want is justice. Yet one investigation into Trump and his staff, one controlled by the republicans, and you guys act like the world is coming to an end. Remember, Mueller is a republican, as is much of his staff. Hypocrite, nothing but a hypocrite rappy.

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Well now, we are finally accepting the truth of the matter, and the inevitable.

The law is the law, is the law! Glad to see people still believe in the Rule of Law.


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Maybe this will be the one?

It must be exhausting searching all these haystacks for needles.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sure. I believe in the rule of the law. In the last 14 months the people I've been witnessing break it on a regular basis come from the extreme left.

Don't matter to me if Trump gets locked up. Pence will be in and Hillary will still be out. I'm still a happy camper.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I believe in the rule of the law. In the last 14 months the people I've been witnessing break it on a regular basis come from the extreme left.

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All those Clinton investigations, all that money, for nothing. Still you can't let it go. Why, you act as though all you want is justice. Yet one investigation into Trump and his staff, one controlled by the republicans, and you guys act like the world is coming to an end. Remember, Mueller is a republican, as is much of his staff. Hypocrite, nothing but a hypocrite rappy.

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All those Clinton investigations, all that money, for nothing. Still you can't let it go. Why, you act as though all you want is justice. Yet one investigation into Trump and his staff, one controlled by the republicans, and you guys act like the world is coming to an end. Remember, Mueller is a republican, as is much of his staff. Hypocrite, nothing but a hypocrite rappy.

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Those investigations took so long and cost so much because the Clintons refused to play ball and submit subpoenaed material. Just as w/ the Rose Law Firm records, which 'magically ' turned up in Hillary's office, to the e-mails she was suppose to turn over, but instead attempted to destroy ( federal crime ) , along w/ the devices she wiped...

Mueller isn't a Republican. People need to stop saying that as if has any meaning. It doesn't. First and foremost, he's ( suppose ) to be a federal law man, but instead, he's more of a Deep State swamp dweller. NONE of his staff are GOP either, so scratch that lie right off the list.

Think of the Clintons as Al Capone in The Untouchables. They'd whack the guy who has all the goods ( Seth Rich ) and then mock Eliot Ness to his face that he's got nothin' !!


Only this is worse. Much worse.

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I'm sure you do not understand what you say doesn't make sense. Sure, the Clintons didn't make it easy, they were resentful. Still, no guilt was ever found. And make no mistake, these Clinton investigations turned over every rock they could. If there were anything Ken Starr could've done to convict Clinton, he would've and did. A lie about having sex with someone other than his wife. 47 million for that. The American people were so pissed at the republicans for that Clinton's favorable ratings jumped 10 points.

Hillary and Benghazi, over and over again. So much concern over a perceived lack of judgement on Hillary's part. Yet none for the Russians interfering in our politics. None for the Russians circulating false stories via the internet designed to stir up negative emotions. Fake stories pitting American against American. No new policies protecting us from that reoccurring. Nothing put in place to prevent it. No one even leading a group to find ways to stop it. So, it's reoccurring.

Check it out. All the top people investigating Trump are republicans, not democrats. That says it all rappy. You're full of shit.

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Just as w/ the Rose Law Firm records, which 'magically ' turned up in Hillary's office, to the e-mails she was suppose to turn over, but instead attempted to destroy ( federal crime ) , along w/ the devices she wiped...

Mueller isn't a Republican. People need to stop saying that as if has any meaning. It doesn't. First and foremost, he's ( suppose ) to be a federal law man, but instead, he's more of a Deep State swamp dweller. NONE of his staff are GOP either, so scratch that lie right off the list.

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Yeah, cites please. I'm sure you'd hate to be spreading fake news. I would also like cites concerning the investigation into the deep state issue.

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Strozk , McCabe and Page ?? All HUGE Hillary or DNC donors. All the lawyers on the " Russian investigation " team ? Huge Obama / Hillary / DNC donors.

McCabe is stepping ( being force ) down. Strozk was removed from the investigation. I

And boo freaking hoo, but when you have records or emails which are subpoenaed, there's no room for " resistance " pal. Sorry, you're duty bound to comply.

Also, the fact that we NOW KNOW for a fact that the Hillary e-mail investigation was a shame, she was covered for by the FBI participants themselves, only solidifies the view that the FISA business of wire taps and were all a bogus front to undermine the Trump campaign / administration.

Rose Law firm records - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/recs.html

In January 1996, a long sought-after copy of billing records from the Rose Law Finn were identified and turned over to prosecutors by Carolyn Huber, a White House assistant to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Ms. Huber, herself a former Rose Law Firm employee, recognized the records and realized that they had been among papers that she had removed six months earlier from the First Lady's book room on the third floor of the White House.

The mysterious appearance of the billing records, which had been the specific subject of various investigative subpoenas for two years, sparked intense interest about how they surfaced and where they had been. Shortly after the discovery of the records, Hillary Clinton made history -- she became the only First Lady ever called to testify before a Grand Jury inquiry.

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So they found the records and Hillary testified. Like I said, no charges filed. The fact that the two sides argued about what the documents showed or portrayed, is standard operating procedure. If you can prove you are right you win. Hillary, the Clintons won.

GET OVER IT, as you and others here like to say. It was decades ago. Your side lost. Only a sicko would still be trying to make the same losing argument today that Ken Starr made then. An argument mind you, that led to no charges being filed.


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Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

Like Hillary.

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Trading favors is exactly what this crook is doing. And, it's now going to be revealed in droves. Something is now being reported that has been known by insiders for a long time. He is holding secret meetings with foreign countries and discussing personal business. Arab Emirates and China to name two. Where's your outrage rappy, jsf, jack, ikiki, sig?


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He's a traitor. The entire Trump crime family are traitors.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Says Jared Kusher is "in his pocket"


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/21/1751046/-Saudi-Crown-Prince
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F.B.I. Investigated Sessions for Possible Perjury Over Russia Denials

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/us/politics/sessions-fbi-investigat
ion-perjury.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fpolitics&action=click&contentCollection=politics®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront

Here's a good one REAVERFAN. I'd add, if this was Clinton or Obama doing any of what's coming to light about the Trump administration, sig rappy jsf jack and kiki would be outraged.

Since it's Trump, it's either silence or a vigorous deflection away from all these criminal actions being reported. It's further proof they are here to troll and nothing more.


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Originally posted by reaverfan:

He's a traitor. The entire Trump crime family are traitors.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Says Jared Kusher is "in his pocket"


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/21/1751046/-Saudi-Crown-Prince
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F.B.I. Investigated Sessions for Possible Perjury Over Russia Denials

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/us/politics/sessions-fbi-investigat
ion-perjury.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fpolitics

Here's a good one REAVERFAN.

I'd add, if this was Clinton or Obama doing any of what's coming to light about the Trump
administration, sig rappy jsf jack and kiki would be outraged.

Since it's Trump, it's either silence or a vigorous deflection
away from all these criminal actions being reported.
It's further proof they are here to troll and nothing more.


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Non issue.
Fewer than 100 e-mails in total.
Not like the 10's of 1000's that Hillary destroyed.
Not a " personal server ", but merely 1 account.

And he's certainly not the head of a Cabinet level positon, while trading pay-for-play favors with heads of state or large international corporations.

Like Hillary.

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Nothing to say? I have something to say hypocrite. Opps...

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