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OMFG, soooo funny!

I will be nice and not say which hole I was referring to. It happens sometimes when we're a bit anxious, if you know what I mean. Bears and Moose would know, especially in the Springtime - The Call of the Wild!

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Ooops!
Wrong hole!

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Drone Strikes!? Search and Seizure!?

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That echo in your empty head must be really bad tonight.

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You have an echo in your bunghole?
Cavity searching?

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I have no idea what you are talking about.

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You have an echo in your bunghole?
Cavity searching?


I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Simple, I was replying to Sixpack's stupid remark.

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You have an echo in your bunghole?
Cavity searching?


I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Simple, I was replying to Sixpack's stupid remark.

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And I don't know what Six-pack remark.
Sorry for being confused.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It'll be interesting to see if any of the indictments include "colluding with Russians to rig the election".

I'm putting my money on "no".

Any guesses from you?

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You and sig really need to start reading what others post before you respond. It's been said by me on many occasions that colluding is not a crime. It's just a word picked up by the media. What is illegal is conspiring and that is based on many of the same actions as colluding.

So yes there will be no colluding charges. There is however more and more evidence that Trumps people and perhaps he himself conspired. Also that Trump tried to and continues to attempt to obstruct justice. The investigation is ongoing and your instance that there is no evidence that supports any of this, is pure trolling of the facts.


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It'll be interesting to see if any of the indictments include "colluding with Russians to rig the election".

I'm putting my money on "no".

Any guesses from you?

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You and sig really need to start reading what others post before you respond. It's been said by me on many occasions that colluding is not a crime. It's just a word picked up by the media. What is illegal is conspiring and that is based on many of the same actions as colluding.

So yes there will be no colluding charges. There is however more and more evidence that Trumps people and perhaps he himself conspired. Also that Trump tried to and continues to attempt to obstruct justice. The investigation is ongoing and your instance that there is no evidence that supports any of this, is pure trolling of the facts.


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Yesterday I started a thread with the mock court trial you speak of. I guess you hadn't noticed it yet. Great summery by you though.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Alan Dershowitz has stated that "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself, but, as you pointed out, within the context of the rule of law could be construed as breaking the law as far as a Federal crime is concerned. That's what I understood him to say today on a cable news program that he participated in. A mock trial at the John Jay College of Law.

At the end of the program, he argued that he believes there was collusion, but that alone could not be used in a court of law. He argued strictly on the basis of Rule of Law. His opponent, I can't remember his name, argued that you can pursue a case based upon conspiracy to break the law; and he proceeded to cite a Federal statute that dealt with that aspect of the law. If a person, or persons, conspires with another to break the law, no matter what their involvement, they have broken the law and can be prosecuted. It was an interesting program, although they just skimmed the surface of the topic at hand. The moderator even stated as much. Dershowitz indicated that he would take up the case for the defendants in the conspiracy case. He felt that he could win.

Basically, he was saying that there isn't any law on the books regarding collusion.
His opponent said there is several on the books regarding conspiracy. According to these law experts....you're both right.

Tick, tock...time will tell.

By the way, I saw a teletype report that Kelly may be working with Mueller and possibly turning state's evidence. This is a new development in the case.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It'll be interesting to see if any of the indictments include "colluding with Russians to rig the election".

I'm putting my money on "no".

Any guesses from you?

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You and sig really need to start reading what others post before you respond. It's been said by me on many occasions that colluding is not a crime. It's just a word picked up by the media. What is illegal is conspiring and that is based on many of the same actions as colluding.

So yes there will be no colluding charges. There is however more and more evidence that Trumps people and perhaps he himself conspired. Also that Trump tried to and continues to attempt to obstruct justice. The investigation is ongoing and your insistence that there is no evidence that supports any of this, is pure trolling of the facts.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yesterday I started a thread with the mock court trial you speak of. I guess you hadn't noticed it yet. Great summery by you though.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Alan Dershowitz has stated that "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself, but, as you pointed out, within the context of the rule of law could be construed as breaking the law as far as a Federal crime is concerned. That's what I understood him to say today on a cable news program that he participated in. A mock trial at the John Jay College of Law.

At the end of the program, he argued that he believes there was collusion, but that alone could not be used in a court of law. He argued strictly on the basis of Rule of Law. His opponent, I can't remember his name, argued that you can pursue a case based upon conspiracy to break the law; and he proceeded to cite a Federal statute that dealt with that aspect of the law. If a person, or persons, conspires with another to break the law, no matter what their involvement, they have broken the law and can be prosecuted. It was an interesting program, although they just skimmed the surface of the topic at hand. The moderator even stated as much. Dershowitz indicated that he would take up the case for the defendants in the conspiracy case. He felt that he could win.

Basically, he was saying that there isn't any law on the books regarding collusion.
His opponent said there is several on the books regarding conspiracy. According to these law experts....you're both right.

Tick, tock...time will tell.

By the way, I saw a teletype report that Kelly may be working with Mueller and possibly turning state's evidence. This is a new development in the case.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
It'll be interesting to see if any of the indictments include "colluding with Russians to rig the election".

I'm putting my money on "no".

Any guesses from you?

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You and sig really need to start reading what others post before you respond. It's been said by me on many occasions that colluding is not a crime. It's just a word picked up by the media. What is illegal is conspiring and that is based on many of the same actions as colluding.

So yes there will be no colluding charges. There is however more and more evidence that Trumps people and perhaps he himself conspired. Also that Trump tried to and continues to attempt to obstruct justice. The investigation is ongoing and your instance that there is no evidence that supports any of this, is pure trolling of the facts.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Sorry, I didn't see it. I, unlike some folk here, don't try to sabotage a person's thread, reply or comments.

I usually look around to see if anyone has started a thread on the topic at hand, but, having said that, sometimes I miss it.


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Shit SGG, I hope my comment didn't take the tone of accusing you of being a thread saboteur. Not my intention at all.



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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Sorry, I didn't see it. I, unlike some folk here, don't try to sabotage a person's thread, reply or comments.

I usually look around to see if anyone has started a thread on the topic at hand, but, having said that, sometimes I miss it.


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Shit SGG, I hope my comment didn't take the tone of accusing you of being a thread saboteur. Not my intention at all.



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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Sorry, I didn't see it. I, unlike some folk here, don't try to sabotage a person's thread, reply or comments.

I usually look around to see if anyone has started a thread on the topic at hand, but, having said that, sometimes I miss it.


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Shit SGG, I hope my comment didn't take the tone of accusing you of being a thread saboteur. Not my intention at all.



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By the way, now I know that Mueller is getting close...the latest is that Team Trump wants a Special Prosecutor for the Special Prosecutor......
Isn't that a hoot!

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By the way, now I know that Mueller is getting close...the latest is that Team Trump wants a Special Prosecutor for the Special Prosecutor......
Isn't that a hoot!

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This is going to be good!

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My prediction. Nothing happens.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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The lefties must be slipping. I was sure there already would have been a pic of Trump on a white stallion in an SS uniform.

Didn't find one. A Google image search for Trump Nazi Stallion did come up with a few amusing images though. Please feel free to post them around whatever echo chambers you guys like to circle jerk in. I know they'll get a kick out of them.







Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

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Its sad, really sad SGG. Everything they post in reply is about Hillary. Yet they say it is us who are obsessed with her. She is gone, and yet to make an argument here today, they have to keep her relevant. She is not. It truly is sad.

The only way they seem to be able to defend Trump is to talk about Hillary. It is obvious to those who deal in facts that that is because Trump is indefensible.



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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No apology necessary. I just find this all extremely pathetic after 14 months of this.

I did celebrate when she lost. Then I've been living my own life for the last year. You should try it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

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Its sad, really sad SGG. Everything they post in reply is about Hillary. Yet they say it is us who are obsessed with her. She is gone, and yet to make an argument here today, they have to keep her relevant. She is not. It truly is sad.

The only way they seem to be able to defend Trump is to talk about Hillary. It is obvious to those who deal in facts that that is because Trump is indefensible.



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“What good fortune for governments that people do not think,” and his policies were based on the premise that most individuals are conformists who do not think for themselves. Hitler and Nazi officials believed it was possible to manipulate public opinion by using propaganda techniques including euphemisms, name-calling, fear, and “bandwagon” (you are either for us or against us). For example, the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda changed the words used in the army, replacing the word “work” with “service to Führer and folk” and “worker” with “soldier of labor.” Writer Max von der Grün recalls the impact these euphemisms had on him during his service in the German army:

It is easy to understand that if, for whatever reasons, these words are hammered into a person’s brain every day, they soon become a part of his language, and he does not necessarily stop and think about where they come from and why they were coined in the first place.

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Sometimes logic works, and sometimes it doesn't.


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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

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Its sad, really sad SGG. Everything they post in reply is about Hillary. Yet they say it is us who are obsessed with her. She is gone, and yet to make an argument here today, they have to keep her relevant. She is not. It truly is sad.

The only way they seem to be able to defend Trump is to talk about Hillary. It is obvious to those who deal in facts that that is because Trump is indefensible.



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Your math is way off there my friend. Mueller wasn't appointed until May 2017....so how do you get 14 months?

Now this part is really pathetic. I am living my life. Again, I don't understand what living my life has to do with speaking truth. Actually, I answered my own question, never mind.


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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No apology necessary. I just find this all extremely pathetic after 14 months of this.

I did celebrate when she lost. Then I've been living my own life for the last year. You should try it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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...and now he wants to fire McCabe!? - SGG

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Apparently, so do a lot of people! McCabe "stepped down" early. You don't do that (and give up that huge one-time chunk of vacation-time payout change) unless someone is twisting your arm, and reportedly the person who twisted McCabe's arm was FBI Director Christopher Wray, who read the 4-page memo about the FBI and FISA abuses.

A while ago, I said that the critical piece of information was who wrote the FISA affidavit which requested surveillance/unmasking of anyone in the Trump team, and whether or not it was based on the "dossier". If the FISA warrant was based on false representation of the dossier as vetted evidence, then ANY information gathered under the warrant is void (fruit of the poisonous tree)* and the person who misrepresented the statements in the affidavit as true evidence has committed a crime. That crime spreads up the chain of command.

*This could be why Mueller is so anxious to interview Trump: To possibly gather more evidence, independent of any flawed warrant, before those flaws are exposed.

SHINY, somewhere in another thread you mentioned JFK as a surrogate father. That is a flaw: The people who make up the administration, whether they be Trump or Schumer or any of the other DC denizens, are NOT your surrogate parents; and any attempt to rely on them as such is merely your projection based on an emotional need. You should fill your need with something else, something a lot more reliable (booze, scifi, people in your life) than politicians.

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Your math is way off there my friend. Mueller wasn't appointed until May 2017....so how do you get 14 months?

Now this part is really pathetic. I am living my life. Again, I don't understand what living my life has to do with speaking truth. Actually, I answered my own question, never mind.


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I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


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I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No apology necessary. I just find this all extremely pathetic after 14 months of this.

I did celebrate when she lost. Then I've been living my own life for the last year. You should try it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You told me "he won... celebrate". That was 14 months ago.

I'm glad you are living your life, but you guys sure are wasting a lot of time on this. Any one of you bitching about Trump here not only bitched about him so far more than I ever did about Obama the 8 years he was president, but more than I'll ever bitch about Obama in my entire lifetime.

That's the pathetic part.

Honestly, I don't get the vibe so much from you, but at this point I really think that when it comes to T and Second that their entire lives and personality have become intertwined with all of this bullshit. I can imagine the stress they're going through. I wasted way too much time on GWB myself back in the day. It ain't good for your health and at the end of they day you're accomplishing nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Your math is way off there my friend. Mueller wasn't appointed until May 2017....so how do you get 14 months?

Now this part is really pathetic. I am living my life. Again, I don't understand what living my life has to do with speaking truth. Actually, I answered my own question, never mind.


SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I'll be first in line to apologize!

But that's a BIG IF!

By the way, didn't vote for Hilary. Besides, He won....celebrate!


SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I feel bad for you SGG. When nothing happens it's going to be like Hillary losing all over again. So many tears.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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No apology necessary. I just find this all extremely pathetic after 14 months of this.

I did celebrate when she lost. Then I've been living my own life for the last year. You should try it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You told me "he won... celebrate". That was 14 months ago.

I'm glad you are living your life, but you guys sure are wasting a lot of time on this. Any one of you bitching about Trump here not only bitched about him so far more than I ever did about Obama the 8 years he was president, but more than I'll ever bitch about Obama in my entire lifetime.

That's the pathetic part.

Honestly, I don't get the vibe so much from you, but at this point I really think that when it comes to T and Second that their entire lives and personality have become intertwined with all of this bullshit. I can imagine the stress they're going through. I wasted way too much time on GWB myself back in the day. It ain't good for your health and at the end of they day you're accomplishing nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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So there you have it. There's no denying the video tape, and you can't lie to Congress, it's like lying to the FBI. That's a no-no.

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