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Indictment came today. All Russian names. Probably a coincidence that Signym can explain away as not evidence.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
ed-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-investigation-idUSKCN1G022U

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
_agency_indictment.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

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Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.
. . .
As you know, I have another thread of "evidence" against naughty Debbie W, and some of the other goings-on in DC. I'll bet if we knew everything about everything there, we'd throw everybody out.

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Indictment came today. All Russian names. Probably a coincidence that Signym can explain away as not evidence.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
ed-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-investigation-idUSKCN1G022U

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
_agency_indictment.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Indictment came today. All Russian names. Probably a coincidence that Signym can explain away as not evidence.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
ed-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-investigation-idUSKCN1G022U

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
_agency_indictment.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

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Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.
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As you know, I have another thread of "evidence" against naughty Debbie W, and some of the other goings-on in DC. I'll bet if we knew everything about everything there, we'd throw everybody out.

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Indictment came today. All Russian names. Probably a coincidence that Signym can explain away as not evidence.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
ed-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-investigation-idUSKCN1G022U

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
_agency_indictment.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

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Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.
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As you know, I have another thread of "evidence" against naughty Debbie W, and some of the other goings-on in DC. I'll bet if we knew everything about everything there, we'd throw everybody out.

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Indictment came today. All Russian names. Probably a coincidence that Signym can explain away as not evidence.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-indictment/russians-indict
ed-in-2016-u-s-election-meddling-investigation-idUSKCN1G022U

http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/mkt/5/1605/1603/internet_research
_agency_indictment.pdf

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA versus

Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin,
Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov,
Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik
A/K/A Mikhail Abramov,
Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova,
Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva,
Sergey Pavlovich Polozov,
Maria Anatolyevna Bovda
A/K/A Maria Anatolyevna Belyaeva,
Robert Sergeyevich Bovda,
Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly Aslanov
A/K/A Jayhoon Aslanov
A/K/A Jay Aslanov,
Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev,
Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko,
Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina, and
Vladimir Venkov.

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Burying the lead again?
The AG's announcement clearly stated that no American was involved with, nor even aware of these activities. And no discernable effect upon the Election occurred.
Yet only by ignoring these 2 key points could second drill down to the irrelevant.
Are ALL of these indicted forever located in Russia, having never set foot in America? Or only some of them?

But this is the thread about No Evidence of Trump Collusion, so no big surprise about deflecting from the subject.

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Mueller indicted another today. An assistant to the deputy aide of the assistant deputy acting aide of somebody, person nor charge having anything remotely to do with Trump, Russia, or Collusion.

Next up: some deputy assistant aide will be indicted for speeding, or jaywalking, or littering, or uncouth language.

All those high-powered ANTI-TRUMP lawyers Mueller hired must have SOMETHING to do.

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Sure there is. There is also plenty of evidence you make shit up as second so eloquently displayed.


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Teflon Don Trump acts like a Mafia boss from NYNY: “I would add that for me, and I think many former law enforcement personnel, it is difficult to recall any precedent for the kind of personal vindictiveness the action by the executive exhibits towards a career FBI agent like McCabe, except from the longtime targets of federal law enforcement, like the mob or drug cartels. With those criminals I noted that their hate was personal towards the agents and attorneys they thought were building cases against them. This move strikes me as very similar.”

https://goo.gl/jFsMck

John Gotti was tried three times by federal and state officials, but was acquitted each time, earning him the nickname "The Teflon Don." It turned out that the trials had been compromised by witness intimidation, juror misconduct, and jury tampering. Gotti's flamboyance, however, proved to be his undoing. The FBI had managed to bug an apartment above his headquarters in the Ravenite Social Club in Little Italy, where an elderly widow let mobsters hold top-level meetings. Gotti was heard planning criminal activities and complaining about his underlings. In particular, he complained about Gravano, portraying him as a "mad dog" killer. Gravano responded by turning state's evidence and testifying against Gotti and other members of the family. Gotti and consigliere Frank "Frankie Loc" LoCascio were convicted on all charges on April 2, 1992, largely on the strength of Gravano's testimony, and sentenced to life without parole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family

Present day location of Ravenite Social Club in Little Italy, 247 Mulberry St, NY, NY:
https://goo.gl/maps/UtQBzmmxA5v
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Still No Evidence?
But hey, admiration of the Criminals in FBI from a Career Criminal Mastermind. That's almost as good as their fabricated evidence, right?

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Still No Evidence?
But hey, admiration of the Criminals in FBI from a Career Criminal Mastermind. That's almost as good as their fabricated evidence, right?

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There are GOP Senators telling Trump that if he doesn't shut the fuck up about firing Mueller, they will end his Presidency and throw his dopey sons into jail for added emphasis. It is not necessary to say that all the Democratic Senators agree, except about the sons. "Republicans to Trump: Let Mueller do his job"
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/republicans-to-trump-let-m
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And still, No Evidence.

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How do you know what Mueller knows? Thought so.

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How do you know what Mueller knows? Thought so.

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How do you know what Mueller knows?

I know what you're hoping for. You haven't shut up about it since November 9th of 2016.

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How do you know what Mueller knows? Thought so.

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How do you know what Mueller knows?

I know what you're hoping for. You haven't shut up about it since November 9th of 2016.

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Wow, good one Sherlock - and here I thought I was being sneaky about it. Maybe you'd like to censor my opinion?

I have no idea what Mueller knows and I don't presume to know what Mueller knows since November 9th of 2016. How 'bout you go stare out a window?

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Still No Evidence?
But hey, admiration of the Criminals in FBI from a Career Criminal Mastermind. That's almost as good as their fabricated evidence, right?

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There are GOP Senators telling Trump that if he doesn't shut the fuck up about firing Mueller, they will end his Presidency and throw his dopey sons into jail for added emphasis. It is not necessary to say that all the Democratic Senators agree, except about the sons. "Republicans to Trump: Let Mueller do his job"
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/republicans-to-trump-let-m
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And still, No Evidence.
Finger pointing does not count.

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Still No Evidence?
But hey, admiration of the Criminals in FBI from a Career Criminal Mastermind. That's almost as good as their fabricated evidence, right?

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There are GOP Senators telling Trump that if he doesn't shut the fuck up about firing Mueller, they will end his Presidency and throw his dopey sons into jail for added emphasis. It is not necessary to say that all the Democratic Senators agree, except about the sons. "Republicans to Trump: Let Mueller do his job"
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/republicans-to-trump-let-m
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And still, No Evidence.
Finger pointing does not count.

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Late on Friday night, Attorney General Jeff Sessions fired former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe. The official reason is that he “lacked candor” during an investigation about contacts with the media during the 2016 campaign. The Inspector General's (IG) report making this charge was not released, which means that no one can say for sure what evidence it contains.

Not releasing the IG report is not an accident. It is not a secret document. It was deliberately kept secret to obscure the fact that the charges against McCabe are completely unfounded and the investigation of McCabe has been bogus from the start. The whole thing was the result of Donald Trump’s search for someone to attack during the campaign. This eventually morphed into President Trump’s search for a scapegoat to explain his loss of the popular vote, which in turn morphed into an insane jihad against the entire leadership of the FBI.

Can I prove this? Of course not. That’s the whole point of withholding the IG report. But everyone in Washington is well aware of how this has unfolded. Everyone is well aware of Trump’s insane obsession with getting revenge on his enemies, both real and perceived. Everyone knows what the McCabe vendetta is about.

At this point, to pretend that we don’t know this — maybe McCabe really did seriously breach the rules, we’ll have to wait and see — is little more than a knee-jerk veneration of faux evenhandedness. It is an attempt to remain willfully ignorant when everyone knows what’s happening.

As with the Nunes memo, here’s what I have to say: This entire investigation was bogus. The charges against McCabe are bogus. He did nothing wrong. The whole affair is part of a pathological vendetta begun by the president of the United States. Eventually all the evidence will become public and this is how it will turn out. We should all stop pretending otherwise.

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I have no idea what Mueller knows and I don't presume to know what Mueller knows since November 9th of 2016.

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wow. Searching for a scapegoat to explain his loss of the popular vote? Really?
You act as if anybody other than Libtards care about the popular vote.
What a stretch.

Keeping your blindfold on while also grasping for some purchase. Complete failure of Intellectual Honesty (understanding the opposing viewpoint).

And, Still No Evidence. Funny how the only leaks from the SC and Grand Jury are rumors favorable to the Witch Hunt.

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Basically, your videos say this: Trump was never charged with doing anything illegal, and nothing he's done regarding his returns is illegal. But since he won't show them, he must be guilty.

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1kiki, at Frys the employee standing at the exit wants to see a receipt and compare it to the merchandise in the shopping bag.

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Trump is the "customer" who refuses to show store security his receipt.

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Frys Security suspects Trump is a shoplifter and all without the proof until they knock Trump down in the parking lot, sit on him, and then check if he paid.

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Trump has to turn everything into a multiyear standoff involving the local police in Frys parking lot rather than a 10 second transaction at the exit door.

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1kiki, at Frys the employee standing at the exit wants to see a receipt and compare it to the merchandise in the shopping bag.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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It would be proper to treat Trump as a thief, especially if he runs out the door or shouts about his rights.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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Trump has to turn everything into a multiyear standoff involving the local police in Frys parking lot rather than a 10 second transaction at the exit door.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.

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The IRS - the relevant body legally charged with checking the 'receipt', not only has seen it, but has it in its possession.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up
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Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0, the supposed lone hacker of Democratic National Committee emails, as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow.

On one occasion, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation.

Trump confidante Roger Stone has admitted to conversations with Guccifer 2.0. Did Stone know that he was a GRU agent? I’ll bet Robert Mueller is trying to find out.

I will also bet Mueller wants to see Trump's income tax returns, but has not yet.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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lol. The government knows where you're coming from even if you use a VPN.

I wonder how much of the rest of this story isn't true.


I will say that Roger Stone definitely did have conversations with Guccifer 2.0. I heard him say so himself, months before the election.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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lol. The government knows where you're coming from even if you use a VPN.

I wonder how much of the rest of this story isn't true.


I will say that Roger Stone definitely did have conversations with Guccifer 2.0. I heard him say so himself, months before the election.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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As the story said: Guccifer was connecting through an anonymizing service called Elite VPN, a virtual private networking service that had an exit point in France but was headquartered in Russia. But on one occasion, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. It is a big deal to go from knowing only that Guccifer is somewhere in Eurasia to knowing Guccifer's street address and office cubical number in Moscow. Mueller has already indicted a dozen Russians by their real names. Guccifer could be next. Obviously, Putin will once again say that he will never extradite Guccifer.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/04/vladimir-putin-never-extradite
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Where's the "proof" that he failed to use the VPN on that single instance?

Perhaps the VPN just spoofed a Russian address that particular time?



I'm not sure you understand what a VPN is or what it claims to do. Just because the one he is using is headquartered in Russia doesn't mean that he's from Russia. I could sign up for a VPN headquartered in Zimbabwe today if I so wanted to.


The fact is, a VPN won't hide you from Big Brother.

All it really allows you to do is be more anonymous from casual users like you and I. It's good for getting back into things like Vimeo or Reddit or Discord if you've been given a permanent IP ban. The CIA already knew where Guccifer 2.0 was posting from many, many months ago even if he had his VPN turned on every time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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It's nothing like that.

It's stories about tech, that isn't really all that complicated, being told to a bunch of luddites who don't know anything about computers other than how to turn them on and go to Facebook.

The story, as it is told, makes no sense. But if you don't know anything about computers or networking you don't even know that it doesn't make any sense.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Stop changing the subject.

The tech story is bullshit. Unless you have anything to say regarding why I'm wrong about that, then we're done talking about it.

You don't, and there is no way that you can, so we are done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Stop changing the subject.

The tech story is bullshit. Unless you have anything to say regarding why I'm wrong about that, then we're done talking about it.

You don't, and there is no way that you can, so we are done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Stop changing the subject.

The tech story is bullshit. Unless you have anything to say regarding why I'm wrong about that, then we're done talking about it.

You don't, and there is no way that you can, so we are done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Well, the subject is Still No Evidence of Trump Russia Collusion, and second does not want to face that fact.

MH17, and Hilliary's emails, and Uranium One, Benghazi, Fast & Furious, IRS scandal, are all Democrap catastrophes - but Libtards must gloss over all of them to focus on the nonexistent.

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Speaking of which, how is it that Lerner has already spent years digging through Tax returns of Republicans, yet Mueller claims To Trump's aren't in his lap already? Did Lois miss one? Or is Mueller merely still looking for Dem scandals to cover up? His team of "Investigators" certainly knows where to find these scandals - they were complicit in them.

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Speaking of which, how is it that Lerner has already spent years digging through Tax returns of Republicans, yet Mueller claims To Trump's aren't in his lap already? Did Lois miss one? Or is Mueller merely still looking for Dem scandals to cover up? His team of "Investigators" certainly knows where to find these scandals - they were complicit in them.

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Speaking of which, Trump has repeatedly been asked to make his tax returns publicly available, as do all Presidential candidates. Before election, he was going to, but not today, maybe tomorrow. After election, he has never given a sane answer to why the returns must be secret. Speculation is that Trump is either insane

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Speaking of which, Obama has repeatedly been asked to make his Birth Certificate publicly available, as do all Presidential candidates. Only after enough years for CIA document forgers to fabricate an adequate facsimile was one presented.

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"But my own preference would be that he not be impeached, but that he be able to serve out his term, because I think he wants to do a good job. And I'm willing to help him, if I can help him, and give him the benefit of the doubt."

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