The AG: Lying Sack of Shit by SHINYGOODGUY

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Hmmmm ... who WAS president in 1989?

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:36 PM

Here's the thing: you're going to see what you're going to see. I cannot, in
good conscience, deny what you believe. That is yours. Nor would I try to
convince you otherwise. To you his statement "seems" straightforward; okay
fine.

Now, as far as the FISA court is concerned. The FBI presented their case to
a judge who, in turn, makes his decision based upon the evidence presented.
You claim that the evidence presented was sketchy and that the judge based
his decision on flimsy or "unverified" information.

And you know this because...? You had access to the secretive filing? You
work for FISC? Or were you informed by ZeroHedge?

I did not hear Barr say that FISC or the judge was not given proper information and fooled into thinking that the evidence presented was complete. He actually stated that leaders within the intelligence community failed in their duties. But that may very well be a possibility. Of course,
that could also be Trump's spin and conspiracy theory from his base. If true,
then the judge must be looked at as well because he/she did not completely
vet the evidence brought before them.

You strongly suggest that may be the case based upon...what? But I say, let's
go ahead and investigate the investigators. But who? Who will do this?
I don't trust the AG and you don't trust anyone. So, here we are. What next?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SHINY", I listened to the videos, and it was just like the transcript which was posted. There was nothing new there, and I think Barr was EXTREMELY clear about what he was doing and why. I don't know why you have a problem with his statement - it seems straighforward to me. Maybe you haven't been following that particular concern, but it seems as if the FBI used unverified information (the "dossier") to justify getting multiple FISA (Foreign Intelligence SURVEILLANCE Act) warrants without letting the judge know how sketchy the information was. If the judge had full information, he (or she) might not have even granted the warrant. That's what barr mean when he said "predicated" ... legally justified.

If that's the case, then there was underhandedness going on, and that's what Barr is going to look into. Are you saying that he shouldn't?

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:56 PM

IMHO, Barr completely "took a knee" for Trump. And did you get a load of Rosenstein standing behind Barr? Deer in the headlights!!!

He is Trump's defense attorney and not America's AG. He totally misrepresented
the tone and tenor of Mueller's Report. Basically, HE LIED!!!
Barr knew this going in to the press conference, the main reason why he held
the presser nearly two hours before it's release.

That is very telling. It is something that no one can deny.

Chris Wallace is once again a news man. I never thought I would live to see
the day.

SGG

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Barr Has A History Of Writing Summaries That Obscure The Truth: A 1989 memo Barr wrote summarizing the “principal conclusions” of a D.O.J. ruling apparently left out several of those principal conclusions.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/william-barr-mueller-report-su
mmary

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 6:14 PM

meh

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 6:16 PM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 7:51 PM

THG

Barr lost all his credibility today. He's been caught flat out lying a dozen times today about what's in the Mueller report.

T

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:12 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Barr lost all his credibility today. He's been caught flat out lying a dozen times today about what's in the Mueller report.

T

Got links? Quotes? Anything?

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:29 PM

REAVERFAN

Three ways William Barr misled the American public about the Mueller report
https://qz.com/1599174/3-ways-william-barr-misled-america-about-the-mu
eller-report/

What We Learned From William Barr’s Mueller Report Press Conference
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/what-we-learned-from-william-ba
rrs-press-conference.html

Watch: Barr walks away after he’s asked the most important question about the Mueller report
The press conference was a charade. One moment captures it.
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484817/william-barr-news-conference-mu
eller-report-walks-away-reilly

Bill Barr’s Weasel Words
All the ways the attorney general is spinning the Mueller report to protect Trump.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summar
y-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

It's amazing what you can learn if you're willing to read things outside of what supports your confirmation bias, troll.

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:34 PM

REAVERFAN

Russian trolls defeated. Again.

But, like all idiots, they're not intelligent or ethical enough to admit they're wrong, and they'll start sealioning because they're trolls, and miserable shit people, overall.

But hey, if I had to live in Russia and make my living being a troll, I'd be miserable, too.

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:07 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Three ways William Barr misled the American public about the Mueller report
https://qz.com/1599174/3-ways-william-barr-misled-america-about-the-mu
eller-report/

What We Learned From William Barr’s Mueller Report Press Conference
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/what-we-learned-from-william-ba
rrs-press-conference.html

Watch: Barr walks away after he’s asked the most important question about the Mueller report
The press conference was a charade. One moment captures it.
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484817/william-barr-news-conference-mu
eller-report-walks-away-reilly

THESE THREE LINKS ARE ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE !!!

Let me repeat that a few times in case you, yanno, miss that.

THESE THREE LINKS ARE ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE !!!
THESE THREE LINKS ARE ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE !!!
THESE THREE LINKS ARE ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE !!!

What do they have to do with the report, the summary, the redactions or - anything at all? People are criticizing the press conference !!??? REALLY???
Is that all they got? It's like that's the only thing they can find fault with. Well, and you too, with your picayune brain.

So, with your three links you are neck and neck with SECOND for the spin horserace.

Quote:
Bill Barr’s Weasel Words
All the ways the attorney general is spinning the Mueller report to protect Trump.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/mueller-report-barr-summar
y-obstruction-conspiracy-close-reading.html

And this faults Mueller for restricting himself to investigating coordination between the Russian GOVERNMENT and the Trump campaign. The authors of this crap must have failed to read Rosenstein's letter appointing Mueller to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian GOVERNMENT and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump". You see that one word in there?

Yeah - It's amazing what you can learn if you're willing to read things outside of what supports your confirmation bias, troll.

And, with this post you pull ahead by one length!! SECOND better start posting or he's going to get behind!

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:15 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Russian trolls defeated. Again.

But, like all idiots, they're not intelligent or ethical enough to admit they're wrong, and they'll start sealioning because they're trolls, and miserable shit people, overall.

But hey, if I had to live in Russia and make my living being a troll, I'd be miserable, too.

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Russian trolls defeated. Again.

But, like all idiots, they're not intelligent or ethical enough to admit they're wrong, and they'll start sealioning because they're trolls, and miserable shit people, overall.

But hey, if I had to live in Russia and make my living being a troll, I'd be miserable, too.

Who's defeated, Marcos?

Nothing but winning from where I'm sitting. Winning so much that, yanno, I'm starting to get tired of winning.

How you doing over there in the cry-baby seat every day?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:47 PM

Oh it's over alright!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:48 PM

I'm suuuuuurrrrrre it is.

Been hearing that every single day for 2 1/2 years now, but who's counting.

*yawn*

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Oh it's over alright!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 19, 2019 12:00 AM

elephant-3223522__340

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Friday, April 19, 2019 12:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
8i6o4n66T.jpg

That's not how image posting works, I'm afraid. On FFF.net or anywhere else.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

EDITED TO ADD:

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
elephant-3223522__340

Nope. Not quite right either.

Why don't you send me the link and I'll post it for you.

EDIT 2:

This wasn't the image you were trying to post, was it?

I fail to see what relevance it has to the topic at hand, but a google image search for "elephant-3223522__340" led me exactly to it.

EDIT 3:

Hmmmmmmmm.... Interesting.

A Google search for 8i6o4n66T.jpg led me directly to this image:

I'm starting to see a theme here. Definitely has to do with elephants.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 1:49 AM

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

RUE, I laughed so hard tears ran down my legs!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, April 20, 2019 1:00 AM

Finally........a sense of humor, but please easy, you could stop sniffing the bag now. That can easily become addictive, pretty soon we'll be reading about you in USA Today - opioids, a mind is a terrible thing to waste....
ooops, too late!

SGG

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Saturday, April 20, 2019 1:01 AM