The Group Responsible for All of Our Troubles by 6ixStringJack

No offense, cause I know most of you on here are in that group.

But she's not wrong.

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Friday, July 5, 2019 5:50 PM

No thoughts?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 5, 2019 5:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

speakers just broke!

I got them free 20 ago ...

still, I need to get speakers, just not today

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Friday, July 5, 2019 6:41 PM

BRENDA

I try not to do "When I was your age" to the few kids I know.

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Friday, July 5, 2019 8:58 PM

JONGSSTRAW

That kid is unbearably obnoxious and annoying. After a couple of minutes of hearing her quasi-militant blather I have to turn it off and take an aspirin.

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Friday, July 5, 2019 11:48 PM

She's great. I'm 40 and she doesn't give me a headache. Pretty sure Rap is older than I am by a bit and he likes her stuff too.

Not sure where you get militant from at all.

I could imagine why, as a boomer yourself, you have no interest in watching this video.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:13 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I think it's just Soph being as provocative as she can be, trying to drum up views. It's all part of her business plan, which she was pretty open about after Youtube closed the "comments" section on her videos and de-monetized them* (*All in an effort to "protect advertisers" from being associated with pedophilic comments about child-based videos)

I think she's funny but I happen to think she's wrong in this case.

What the post-boomers are complaining about, of course, is that their lives are worse than the previous generation's, and so of course they do what most kids do: Blame mom and dad.

If you happen to think Soph is right about this, ask yourselves what "mom and dad" did that led to this decline in livig standard. Did they use up all of the soil? Did they use up all of the water? Did they use up all of the oil? Did they use up all of the money? Did they use up all of the work?

Nope, nope, nope, nope, and nope.

The only thing that the boomers (oh, and everyone since then) can be credibly said to have "used up" is the carbon-dioxide carrying cycle, and we haven't even BEGUN to pay back that debt! But after that, the decline in living standard is really about financialism and wealth inequality.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Saturday, July 6, 2019 11:53 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
That kid is unbearably obnoxious and annoying. After a couple of minutes of hearing her quasi-militant blather I have to turn it off and take an aspirin.

+1

Another 'tuber with a schtick looking for a viral jackpot.

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Saturday, July 6, 2019 1:28 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think it's just Soph being as provocative as she can be, trying to drum up views. It's all part of her business plan, which she was pretty open about after Youtube closed the "comments" section on her videos and de-monetized them* (*All in an effort to "protect advertisers" from being associated with pedophilic comments about child-based videos)

I think she's funny but I happen to think she's wrong in this case.

What the post-boomers are complaining about, of course, is that their lives are worse than the previous generation's, and so of course they do what most kids do: Blame mom and dad.

If you happen to think Soph is right about this, ask yourselves what "mom and dad" did that led to this decline in livig standard. Did they use up all of the soil? Did they use up all of the water? Did they use up all of the oil? Did they use up all of the money? Did they use up all of the work?

Nope, nope, nope, nope, and nope.

The only thing that the boomers (oh, and everyone since then) can be credibly said to have "used up" is the carbon-dioxide carrying cycle, and we haven't even BEGUN to pay back that debt! But after that, the decline in living standard is really about financialism and wealth inequality.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

Well... to be fair, she's bitching about grandma and grandpa. Not mom and dad. She's also bitching about mom and dad too, but not for the same things.

Sitting on the sidelines here and watching my mom and step-dad make one horrible financial decision after another their entire lives and still end up better than I'll ever be doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies with all I've got going on now. That includes watching my mom get her entire mouth replaced with cadaver bones and shiny new implants while I wonder how I'm going to be able to even afford dentures when the time comes.

Even better for them, she's going to start getting $1.6k per month social security this year too, giving them a combined total of over 3 times the monthly income I was making at my last job to sit on their asses all day long. Yay!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:43 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I was trying to figure out if I was the generation that Soph was bitching about and I suppose I am, and yet I don't know how I fit in. My parents were highly influenced (some would say "scarred") by rough experiences as a child: Mom by growing up in a large family in the Depression and dad by surviving WWII internment, so I grew up with the idea that life could hand you a shit sandwich at any time. They were ... and I learned to be ... a reflexive saver and hard worker who was very conservative with money. MOST of the boomers parents must have had experience with the Depression; I thought it was one of those generational lessons that got passed on?

Anyway, I guess it can be frustrating to see your parents (or grandparents) making THE SAME kinds of decisions that you're making and sailing through confortably; but it's not their "fault" any more than it's your "fault"; they just happened to grow up in a mileu when America was the supreme industrial producer (since Europe, Russia, Japan, and China's productive capability had been destroyed) so it was easy to build up a trade surplus, easy to save etc. Also, the top income tax rate was 90%, so wealth inequality hadn't taken hold of the USA back then.

It's all entirely reversible, you just have to metaphorically string up the bankers and other American oiligarchs and just take back control of the USA.

Easy peasy!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:09 AM

I think it's kind of hard to lump people all into "generations". First and foremost, because nobody seems to agree on them and exactly when they begin and end. It's all rather nebulous.

You might have noticed that in Soph's video, she completely ignores the existence of "Generation X". Most scales put me on the tail end of GenX. Some also include my brother who is 2 years younger than me. None of them that I've seen include my brother who is 4 years younger than me.

But that being said, I think it's absolutely ludicrous to put any of my brothers and I in the Millennial group. We didn't have cell phones in high school. People had pagers in high school back then, but if you got caught with one you were suspended for a week (yanno, because only drug dealers needed pagers). The columbine shooting happened after two of us were out of high school. 9/11 happened after all of us had graduated. We were in our late 20's and early 30's by the time America had its first black president. As children, we all grew up in houses that didn't even have an answering machine. MTV only played music videos, until I was in Jr. High and they invented the reality TV genre with the first season of "The Real World". The late 90's were when I first got into the job market, and even without a college degree, I had jobs being practically thrown at me from a temp agency with my skills that were quite a bit more pay than any jobs I've worked in the last decade (at a time when gasoline was cheaper than water by the gallon, and everything else was cheaper because of it).

So, I'm not sure why Soph doesn't include GenX in her video. I'm certainly not a Boomer myself, and I will never benefit from the great times of that generation, or retire with any pensions or meaningful 401k plans or great health coverage. But I'm certainly not a Millennial either. I have nothing in common with a kid in college today, or one that graduated in the last 5 to 10 years either, for that matter.

I can't really blame her there though. When's the last time you ever heard anybody even talk about Generation X? It seems as though we're already the forgotten generation, even though most of us are still alive today.

As for saving, yeah, you can't just throw an entire generation under the bus. My grandma was born and raised to be frugal to the point that she knows how to patch socks. Not all of her kids took those lessons to heart, but my old man is GREAT with his money, and my step-mom was a perfect match for him in that regard. I learned a lot in the 5 years I lived in my grandma's basement, and I learned a lot from my dad.

But my mom and step-dad on the other hand, well... by all rights should be destitute right now. I remember my step dad saying one time something along the lines of "I'll always be in debt. It's the American way.". And they were, and they are, but somehow after having to refinance their main home, having to sell their yacht they couldn't pay for when the bottom fell out in 2008, having to draw nearly all of the equity out of a paid for cottage summer home, having to sell both of their properties and their business in a fire sale from a distance because they up and moved halfway across the country at the drop of a hat, then having to sell that property from a distance because they moved to the east coast at the drop of a hat.... They're still doing fine.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're doing fine. I've already let them know that I hope they have enough for my mom to survive when he's no longer with us, because I can't afford to put her in a home and there's no way I'm ever living with my mother. But seriously, WTF?

Had they had a single responsible bone in their body, they should have comfortably retired with millions to their name given the luck they had at the time they were born. They're not destitute, but I get the feeling that they were really looking forward to my mom hitting that magic age where she can draw SS benefits too because it would make their lives easier.

Boomers are the generation that refinanced their homes and used them as ATM's before the market collapsed. They are the generation that pushed their kids into taking ridiculously overpriced loans to go to college and become wage slaves for the rest of their lives (bankruptcy doesn't forgive college debt). And in the end, when all is said and done, they are the generation that will reverse-mortgage their properties to suppliment their social security benefits until they die and they will leave nothing to their kids.

The only positive I can see out of any of this, is that (at least currently), we live in a country that doesn't pass the debts of the fathers and mothers to the children after they die.

Wouldn't that just be the fuck you icing on the cake to give the next generation if they could?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 1:47 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

A yacht? A vacation home? Selling two properties and a business? And selling another property? It sounds to me like they were very well-off at one time and have been squandering their wealth ever since! I have no idea how anyone could make so many dumb choices in a row and not learn anything from the previous dumb choices!

Social Security and Medicare will be tapped out in a few years anyway, so that safety net they were relying in will be no more ... unless Congress and the WH decide to find more funding for it. (Eliminating the cap on Social Security taxes and negotiating better drug prices from the pharmas would be two straightforward laws.) so people of my generation who've been way too free with their money may get their comeuppance in the near future anyway, with or without Soph's grotching.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A yacht? A vacation home? Selling two properties and a business? And selling another property? It sounds to me like they were very well-off at one time and have been squandering their wealth ever since! I have no idea how anyone could make so many dumb choices in a row and not learn anything from the previous dumb choices!

Yeah. The "yacht", they didn't even know was a yacht when they bought it. When they made "boat buddies", one of them let them know that their boat was considered the smallest class yacht. It had a bedroom and kitchen below deck. The "vacation home" was something that my parents got from my uncle when I was still a kid. It wasn't much to speak of and didn't cost all that much. The point was, they had it paid off at one point, but had to put a new mortgage on it as well as losing most of the equity of their main home just to keep their business afloat when the bottom fell out after 2008. Besides that cottage, they never actually "owned" anything they had in their lives. The bank did.

As to why they never learned? They had my old man subsidizing it for many years by paying an outrageous amount of child support until my brother was 24 (which would have gone on forever if my old man didn't retire early to put an end to it). After that, credit has never been a problem for them. It wouldn't surprise me if in the end they have no more than 20% down on their new place and nothing to their name other than social security payments every month.

I hope they're doing better than that, but this has always been my concern with them. If I sound a little bitter now it's because I'm in the current state I'm in and I get to watch them skate on by after being horrible shepherds of any wealth they might have once accumulated.

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Social Security and Medicare will be tapped out in a few years anyway, so that safety net they were relying in will be no more ... unless Congress and the WH decide to find more funding for it. (Eliminating the cap on Social Security taxes and negotiating better drug prices from the pharmas would be two straightforward laws.) so people of my generation who've been way too free with their money may get their comeuppance in the near future anyway, with or without Soph's grotching.

Not making me feel any better here, Sigs. I don't imagine I'd make it much past 70 years old myself in the end, but since I likely won't have anything saved up by the time I reach retirement age, it would have been nice to have some basic form of health insurance and a few bucks coming my way since I've been paying all my life for their social security payments.

Plus, if they stop paying it out I have no clue what's going to happen to my brother.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 8:09 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Quote:
Social Security and Medicare will be tapped out in a few years anyway, so that safety net they were relying in will be no more ... unless Congress and the WH decide to find more funding for it. (Eliminating the cap on Social Security taxes and negotiating better drug prices from the pharmas would be two straightforward laws.) so people of my generation who've been way too free with their money may get their comeuppance in the near future anyway, with or without Soph's grotching.

Not making me feel any better here, Sigs. I don't imagine I'd make it much past 70 years old myself in the end, but since I likely won't have anything saved up by the time I reach retirement age, it would have been nice to have some basic form of health insurance and a few bucks coming my way since I've been paying all my life for their social security payments.

Plus, if they stop paying it out I have no clue what's going to happen to my brother.

Signym is spreading this falsehood, this myth: Social Security is going broke.

Fact: No doubt, Social Security faces funding challenges, but not immediately and not bankruptcy. Benefits are paid through payroll taxes collected from current workers and their employers, and the program currently operates with a surplus of about $2.8 trillion.

Yet with a rising number of retirees and a drop in the birthrate, that's changing. The latest projection has the combined Social Security trust funds that pay retirement and disability benefits running out of cash reserves by 2034.

But that wouldn't leave Social Security bankrupt and unable to pay any benefits. Even if Congress does nothing to shore up the system by 2034, Social Security will be able to pay out 79 percent of promised benefits until 2090.

More at www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/info-2016/debunking-six-more-m
yths-about-social-security.html

or www.fool.com/retirement/2018/06/06/2018-social-security-trustees-repor
t-the-5-things.aspx

or www.ssa.gov/OACT/TR/2019/tr2019.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 7, 2019 11:13 PM

Yeah. I've read that it should still be around by the time I retire. I remember the scare that people under 55 around 10 or so years ago wouldn't get any and it was going under. Most info about that scare seems to have been wiped away from the internet completely, as strange as that is.

I don't ever count on anything though. Maybe I'll have to work until I die. Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 7:03 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

According to Turchin (2003, 2005), virtually all empires arose in geographical areas where major ethnic groups came into contact with each other. Intense between-group conflict acted as a crucible for the cultural evolution of extremely cooperative societies, which then expanded at the expense of less cooperative societies to become major empires. Their very success was their undoing, however, as cultural evolution within the empire led to myriad forms of exploitation, free riding, and factionalism. That is why the center of the former Roman empire (for example) is today a cultural “black hole” as far as the capacity for cooperation is concerned. Turchin, a theoretical biologist who specializes in nonlinear population dynamics, has marshaled an impressive amount of empirical evidence to support his thesis about the rise and fall of empires as a process of multilevel cultural evolution, with profound implications for interactions among modern cultures and their consequences for human welfare in the future.

More from www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/522809 about
War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires by Peter Turchin
Ultrasociety How 10,000 Years of War Made Humans by Peter Turchin

Historical analysis shows that long spells of equitable prosperity and internal peace are succeeded by protracted periods of inequity, increasing misery, and political instability.These crisis periods--"Ages of Discord"--have recurred in societies throughout history. Modern Americans may be disconcerted to learn that the US right now has much in common with the Antebellum 1850s and, more surprisingly, with ancien régime France on the eve of the French Revolution. Can it really be true that there is nothing new about our troubled time, and that similar ages arise periodically for similar underlying reasons? Ages of Discord marshals Structural-Demographic Theory and detailed historical data to show that this is, indeed, the case. The book takes the reader on a roller-coaster ride through American history, from the Era of Good Feelings of the 1820s to our first Age of Discord, which culminated in the American Civil War, to post-WW2 prosperity and, finally, to our present, second Age of Discord.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/0996139540/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 8, 2019 9:13 AM

I can't argue that. I think it's just human nature to suck ass.

Maybe the real problem is that we don't live long enough? I think if we all grew to be 400 years old before we died that we'd have a much different outlook on every aspect of our lives. Not only would we have seen a whole lot more of things such as these "ups and downs" before we die, but we'd live with those before us who had seen even more to tell us about in their own lives.

We'd probably also give a lot more credence to what the "old folk" have to say about things too. I'd imagine that if 400 were the average lifespan there would be wildly varying ages of natural deaths (ie: not accidents or suicides).

As long as you stayed "young" for a good deal of those 400 average years, I couldn't imagine people not wanting to actually live a lot of them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to think that a lot of self-destructive behaviors many of us have today would not exist on the scale they do if we had to take care of our body for 4 to 5 times longer than we do now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 11:40 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

interesting point. It's obviou that over centuries, societies rise and fall. However, I think that culture and poliics are mostly driven by economics. In the grand scheme of things, as wealth becomes more uneven there's more for people to fight about. Also, the wealthy quite consciously use "divide and conquer" to maintain their position, because if the rabble ae busy fighting each other then they won't focus on the eltie.

Hubby and I have often discussed society as a living entity. Each society has its members (cells), division of labor (organs), language, memes, assumptions, and rules that are carried from generation to generation (DNA), self-protective response (immune system), energy and material needs (food) etc. Societies, like individual beings, are born, live, grow, senesce, and eventually die.

We, as its individual cells, live far too short a lifespan to even notice the lifespan of the organism to which we belong. If, as SIX said, we lived hundreds of years we might have a better view of these long-term changes that occur over hundreds or thousands of years, and we might have more respect for the future, instead of treating it as some terra incognito just waiting to be exploited.

*****

There IS something to be said for getting older btw. especially if you maintain an active learning process. It was hard for me to remember that the people that I worked with - who seemed fully-adult, who had jobs and houses and children - didn't remember the Vietnam war, or any of the many other wars that we engaged in. Didn't remember the oil shock, or "Silent Spring", or the assassination of Kennedy, or the hard times when the steel mills went bust in the midwest. Didn't remember the MANY stock market and real estate booms and busts, the S&L crisis, or stagflation. Nixon's first visit to China. The cuban missile crisis. Iran Contra, Watergate. For them, so many things were a "first". It's hard to put things into perspective if you have nothing to compare it to. Our culture disrespects history. The past is dead, and corrupt. The future is always glorious and full of promise. But those who don't learn from history ... well, they'll laways be taken by surprise!

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Monday, July 8, 2019 5:44 PM

Yeah.

I often think about how bad it must have been in the Great Depression. I don't even know anybody old enough to tell me any real stories about it, and even if they did, how much credence could you give somebody on their memories of events that unfolded nearly 100 years ago now. My Grams grew up post-GD, and her family didn't have a ton of cash so they made due with what they had and made it last a lot longer out of necessity, as I imagine most people from that time had learned to do.

If we lived 400 years, I'd have plenty of people to tell me exactly how bad it was in comparison to anything I've seen in my life, even if I wasn't alive through it.

I think this huge change in perspective that would happen if we lived for hundreds of years on average would change the way the entire world operated. Likely, for the better.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 6:06 PM

JONGSSTRAW

Here's a group of average Americans enjoying a fine day at Disneyland. Somehow I don't see them or anyone else evolving into a higher order of human being any time soon, even if they lived to be 1,000 years old. The only things that keep human society in a relative state of order and safety are the police, the courts, and prisons.

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Monday, July 8, 2019 6:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

IDK. Humans go through stages in their development. Children and young adults are notoriously 'immortal'. One doesn't gain enough perspective to look forward until years, maybe decades, have gone by.
And emotional memory lasts on average 7 years. Then the impact fades and we're left with memories of past narratives we've created.
On the plus side, if the vast majority of the population was 100+years, maybe overall we wouldn't be in such a hurry to despoil the planet. The older people would be saying to themselves - I remember when the air was clean. I remember the days before plastic. I remember how things were before we started throwing 90,000 chemicals around by the thousands of tons per year. ... Maybe we should stop doing those things now.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I can't argue that. I think it's just human nature to suck ass.

Maybe the real problem is that we don't live long enough? I think if we all grew to be 400 years old before we died that we'd have a much different outlook on every aspect of our lives. Not only would we have seen a whole lot more of things such as these "ups and downs" before we die, but we'd live with those before us who had seen even more to tell us about in their own lives.

We'd probably also give a lot more credence to what the "old folk" have to say about things too. I'd imagine that if 400 were the average lifespan there would be wildly varying ages of natural deaths (ie: not accidents or suicides).

As long as you stayed "young" for a good deal of those 400 average years, I couldn't imagine people not wanting to actually live a lot of them. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to think that a lot of self-destructive behaviors many of us have today would not exist on the scale they do if we had to take care of our body for 4 to 5 times longer than we do now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 7:06 PM

Well that's kind of my point.

In this theoretical world where we live hundreds of years, I would assume that our brains stay a lot sharper than they do today for a lot longer.

Add to that the fact that you would have a more vested interest in the long term things than you do when you got 50 or maybe even a hundred years. And even if you're living past 80 you're not enjoying it like you would have in your 20's and you're probably losing your marbles.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 7:26 PM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Here's a group of average Americans enjoying a fine day at Disneyland. Somehow I don't see them or anyone else evolving into a higher order of human being any time soon, even if they lived to be 1,000 years old. The only things that keep human society in a relative state of order and safety are the police, the courts, and prisons.

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Totally staged. They're making big money on the all the white folks' clicks.

Did you read the comments? Funny stuff:

cordelearts
This is good camera work. — He' knew when to zoom in and out. Really capturing the entire experience.

Must be a professional.

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Cali Made
3 hours ago
Cut in line security approaches you in seconds.. full blown fight no security in sight ??????????

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John Mathews
John Mathews
3 hours ago
What a vibrant diverse society!!!

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Jay Mabry
Jay Mabry
3 hours ago
The new normal. Sad that people like this are actually procreating! Lord help us!

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Laughing Octopus
Laughing Octopus
3 hours ago
So many hilarious things I want to say but youtube will just delete them, lol

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jerry mcmackin
jerry mcmackin
1 hour ago
The new ghetto theme park is very realistic. The interaction is cutting edge.

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Jeff Taylor
Jeff Taylor
2 hours ago
One thing stands out above everything. If you take your family to Disneyland and someone attacks you or your family do not expect security to show up or any good Samaritans to step to your aid. Disney should be ashamed that they cannot provide a safe park.

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stephen colebrook
stephen colebrook
4 hours ago
BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK MEN, please stop embarrassing your race

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Leoneidas
Leoneidas
2 hours ago (edited)
I had heard Disney was modernizing Main Street to be more current, but geez.

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Fabio Faria
Fabio Faria
4 hours ago
Poor children. Growing up in a family like that. Smh

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Dennis Whiter
Dennis Whiter
3 hours ago
"I'm going to Disneyland"
"Errr, No you're going to JAIL"

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CenTexPhoto
CenTexPhoto
2 hours ago
I guess Disneyland isn't the Happiest Place on Earth!!! Oh, and I have zero faith that Disneyland Security could control anything more serious than a long line at an attraction.

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Richard Moten
Richard Moten
2 hours ago
Walt Disney should be rolling over in his grave to see his dream world for children of all ages
turn into a battle ground by people who bring their ghetto drama to (The Land Of Enchantment) "DISNEYLAND!"

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Monday, July 8, 2019 7:30 PM

What does it matter if it's staged?

Nobody wants to see that shit.

I don't want to see that shit when I'm shopping at Aldi.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 7:40 PM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What does it matter if it's staged?

Nobody wants to see that shit.

I don't want to see that shit when I'm shopping at Aldi.

It's a joke - f*cksake.

Almost a million views at youtube - a lot of someones wanted to see it.

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Monday, July 8, 2019 10:06 PM

It's not a funny joke.

I suppose you're one of "those" that enjoy the prank channels then?

People didn't watch it on youtube to laugh. You said yourself who was watching it. They were watching it with disgust.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 8, 2019 11:07 PM

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Monday, July 8, 2019 11:25 PM

JONGSSTRAW

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Good set uv nokrz on that bich!

Funniest damn post evah!

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Monday, July 8, 2019 11:57 PM

BRENDA

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Yeah.

I often think about how bad it must have been in the Great Depression. I don't even know anybody old enough to tell me any real stories about it, and even if they did, how much credence could you give somebody on their memories of events that unfolded nearly 100 years ago now. My Grams grew up post-GD, and her family didn't have a ton of cash so they made due with what they had and made it last a lot longer out of necessity, as I imagine most people from that time had learned to do.

If we lived 400 years, I'd have plenty of people to tell me exactly how bad it was in comparison to anything I've seen in my life, even if I wasn't alive through it.

I think this huge change in perspective that would happen if we lived for hundreds of years on average would change the way the entire world operated. Likely, for the better.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A lot of stories you hear about the Great Depression can depend on when your parents were born or even Aunts and Uncles.

Jack, take my family as an example. Both my parents lived through the Depression but my dad was in his late 20s when it hit and my mom was a child. Those are two totally different perspectives on the same era. Same thing with his siblings. They all ranged from young adults to teenagers. My late guy's parents were children as well and that is a third perspective on the same era.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 5:52 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's not a funny joke.

I suppose you're one of "those" that enjoy the prank channels then?

Not the vid, knucklehead. The idea of all of those people being actors working together to run up clicks on youtube is funny in a Black Mirror kind of way. Guess you're just not in a funny place right now.

I have no idea what prank channels are.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
People didn't watch it on youtube to laugh. You said yourself who was watching it. They were watching it with disgust.

Some were laughing, no doubt. Others feel disgust, definitely. I'm sure some even feel superiority. And some all 3.

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 7:42 AM

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Not the vid, knucklehead. The idea of all of those people being actors working together to run up clicks on youtube is funny in a Black Mirror kind of way. Guess you're just not in a funny place right now.

I have no idea what prank channels are.

A prank channel is exactly what you described as being funny right now. lol.

They are the ultimate form of not funny comedy in 2019. Half of it is staged and/or shouldn't even have the word "prank" in the title.

But the other half, similar to the incident above had it been staged, is not funny. And that increasing level of un-funny quickly devolves into dangerous territory too. Either to the individual doing the "prank" themselves, the people they're "pranking" or society in general.

YouTube Pranker idiot Joey Salads went around a bunch of black guys saying "a nickel", talking about one he finds on the ground, and almost getting his ass beat because the way he says it sounds like blacks use the N word with each other. They're all likely staged (see below), but it doesn't make anybody look good.

Later he got caught (and subsequently apologized half hardheartedly) staging a "prank" where he had a bunch of black dudes destroy a car with a Trump bumper sticker before the election in a bad neighborhood. It wasn't too far later that Jussie Smollett dumped the whole "prank" angle was paying two black dudes to pretend they were the white guys beating him up for being gay.

Out in the UK, where random people have had acid thrown on their faces in the street (not a prank), some guy thought it was a good idea to go around taking videos of him throwing water in people's faces and watching them freak out.

You're probably right. I'm not in a very funny place right now. But at the same time, it was so easy for me to believe that this was all staged just by misunderstanding your post because I've seen "pranks" uploaded to youtube already that are just as bad if not worse than this.

And I wasn't joking about the Aldi thing. I see this type of shit when shopping for groceries. I can't imagine if I were ever to piss a bunch of money away going to a Disney theme park for the first time in my life that I would ever bother going back again if that unfolded right before me. Having had the shit beat out of me when I was 20 by 4 guys and literally stabbed in the back with a kitchen knife by the 250 lb black dude of the group, I think I'd have some PTSD kicking in there and spend the rest of my vacation hard core scoping out my surroundings the whole time instead of pretending to be enjoying myself.

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Some were laughing, no doubt. Others feel disgust, definitely. I'm sure some even feel superiority. And some all 3.

Yeah. And I'm sure quite a lot of black people saw it and felt shame too, and were like "please don't be a black guy, please don't be a black guy, please don't be a black guy.... Oh shit."

I'm not going to sit here and say that it's only black people who do this. I know there are a lot of trailer trash white idiots that don't belong in Aldi grocery stores let alone Disney too.

We should look down on ANYBODY who behaves like this in public in disgust and with superiority. They need to be shamed.

I hope any of the black mom's watching that with their kids tells them something like "no son or daughter of mine better ever act like that in public or I'll whoop their asses".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 9, 2019 10:07 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
A prank channel is exactly what you described as being funny right now. lol.

I had no idea. Sounds like they tapped the most immature vein in male behavior - sorry to hear people are actually making money on youtube doing it.

Old saying: "1 boy is a boy. 2 boys are half a boy. 3 boys are no boy." In other words - the more guys in one place, the more stupid sh*t they'll get up to to impress each other.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. And I'm sure quite a lot of black people saw it and felt shame too, and were like "please don't be a black guy, please don't be a black guy, please don't be a black guy.... Oh shit."

Literally was one of the comments from a black guy on that vid: "BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK MEN, please stop embarrassing your race ."

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not going to sit here and say that it's only black people who do this. I know there are a lot of trailer trash white idiots that don't belong in Aldi grocery stores let alone Disney too.

Glad you are aware of that. This kind of behavior seems to follow education and economic lines more closely over race. There are @ssholes on every block.

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 5:29 AM

I realize it, but I've never actually seen it. Whenever I've seen anything like this it was black people doing it. Not whites. Not Mexicans. Not Asians. Not anybody else. Just black people.

There are quite a few very unfunny female prank channels too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 8:19 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I realize it, but I've never actually seen it. Whenever I've seen anything like this it was black people doing it. Not whites. Not Mexicans. Not Asians. Not anybody else. Just black people.

There are quite a few very unfunny female prank channels too.

Fights? Not exactly like this one, but any fights I've seen have been between white males. Parking lot of freaking Lowe's. 2 dudes almost accidentally backed into each other. Big guy gets out and goes over to little guy and starts yelling then swinging. Not much contact - people seem to forget how to throw punches when they get real pissed, just windmilling it. What I find funny is how people - strangers - will step in to break it up. Like, why you do you care? Something in us wants it stopped. 2 things I think: 1, we would want someone to stop us if we got in that situation because it's usually not worth it, and 2, because it's just ugly embarrassing to look at.
Bartending I saw a number of fights between drunk white dudes. Seemed like the scrappy little guys always won. I used to go to fairs and theme parks but that was a looooong time ago. I feel like their time has passed for me - "I did that, check."

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Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:12 PM