Impeachment Investigation Is Underway, Judiciary Committee Says by THG

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If Trump was such a lock for the next election, why did he bother with Ukraine to begin with??

Great video, Jo. Right to the point.

It really is amazing how much the GOP and pro-Trumper's world view is made up of pure fabrication. I remember when they were after Hillary and they used to use that like a club to prove their points, like all Trump haters must be Clinton lovers. "Go ahead, put her in jail. You've had 7 tries with Benghazi and not succeeded, but have at it." But it was just noise.
Same now for Biden. Does any democrat really give a sh*t if his son is guilty of something? Would any of us be surprised? It's just fabricated outrage over nothing to try and take possession of the news cycle for the dumb shits that make up the Trump base (or have other anti-US agendas).

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Monday, September 30, 2019 9:58 AM

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Also Mitchell states in the video, from two days ago, "we should note, that Lutsenko was hired by the previous government of Ukraine, had no legal training, and is featured prominently in the whistleblowers's complaint".

So in other words, his prior work experience should have landed him jobs in the fast food service industry, not the Prosecutor General of a country.

I doubt very much that he's even qualified to determine whether or not somebody was guilty of jaywalking.

I've seen the talking heads on Fox trot this out like it's some big gotcha find, whether it be Biden's son had no training or this guy, and I just laugh. Just look at the WH if you want to find dozens of people with NO experience, or even positions that are empty. How many people have any trianing in their positions in Trump's cabinet? Jarod is in charge of Peace in the f*cking Middle East! What a joke - can't laugh hard enough.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 10:14 AM

Oh dear...

Everyone is drinking this KoolAid.

Maybe I should just sit back and watch this one implode and have a good laugh.

Enjoy the manic high everyone. The low will probably be worse than the election results of 2016.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 10:38 AM

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Also Mitchell states in the video, from two days ago, "we should note, that Lutsenko was hired by the previous government of Ukraine, had no legal training, and is featured prominently in the whistleblowers's complaint".

So in other words, his prior work experience should have landed him jobs in the fast food service industry, not the Prosecutor General of a country.

I doubt very much that he's even qualified to determine whether or not somebody was guilty of jaywalking.

I've seen the talking heads on Fox trot this out like it's some big gotcha find, whether it be Biden's son had no training or this guy, and I just laugh. Just look at the WH if you want to find dozens of people with NO experience, or even positions that are empty. How many people have any trianing in their positions in Trump's cabinet? Jarod is in charge of Peace in the f*cking Middle East! What a joke - can't laugh hard enough.

You'll notice that Mitchell made a point of saying that he had no law training (For the job title Prosecutor General) when she believed that it was in the narrative's best interest to point this out.

All I'm doing now is pointing out that, assuming what SHE said was true, he didn't have enough law school training to pass the bar and become an ambulance chaser in the US, let alone a PROSECUTOR GENERAL. When I pointed this out to Second, he said that his three years of on the job training were sufficient. How many lawyers in America become lawyers after 3 years of school (even the ambulance chasers)? The answer to that question is none.

There is nothing hard to understand about the point I'm making here. Even idiots can connect A to B. If you're not getting my point, it's because you are ignoring it on purpose.

And honestly, I don't give a single shit about Biden or his son. Biden's potential candidacy poses zero threat to Trump's.

When I point out how improper that it was for Biden's son to be receiving $60,000 per month while sitting on a corporate oil board of a country who's government we were manipulating and re-shaping using tax payer dollars while he was Vice President, and how further improper it was for him to leverage a billion tax payer dollars to fire a man who was investigating that company, I only do so to point out the insane level of hypocrisy being exhibited here by members of the RWED as well as by "journalists" in the Legacy Media.

I just caution you against getting too tied up in all of this and further whipped up into a rabid furor.

There is very little chance that an actual impeachment will ever occur. My guess would be that Pelosi's strategy going forward seems to be to have an impeachment inquiry hanging over Trump's head through the election to try to distract from the fact that the wall is being built, the economy is better than it was when Trump started, most people are paying less taxes than they were 3 years ago and the Democrat nominees for 2020 so far are a joke.

They're also going to do their damnedest to try to gloss over the fact that although Trump has already appointed 2 judges to SCOTUS (both of which are by far the youngest from 5 years to 36 years younger than the rest), Ginsburg isn't long for this world and if she survives until the election that appointee will go to the Democrats if Trump loses. This is probably the most important thing about the 2020 election, but nobody really ever talks about it at all. Funny, that.

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November 8, 2018 - Hospitalized after fracturing three ribs in a fall in her office at the Supreme Court. A CT scan of her ribs following her November 8 fall showed cancerous nodules in her lungs.

December 21, 2018 - Ginsburg underwent a left-lung lobectomy at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center to remove the nodules.

January 7, 2019 - for the first time since joining the Court more than 25 years earlier, Ginsburg missed oral argument while she recuperated.

August 24, 2019 - it was revealed that Ginsburg had recently completed three weeks of focused radiation treatment to ablate a tumor found in her pancreas over the summer

The reason that Ginsburg is almost never mentioned in the Legacy Media, and when she does they immediately stop talking about it?

Trump either hasn't figured out what an important thing to run on this would be, or he hasn't decided to blow his wad too early on this one and is instead saving it for the campaign ads in the month or two leading up to the election.

In the case that it is the former, the DNC and the Legacy Media don't want to give him any ideas. They too could benefit from this being out in the open, but the fact that it isn't already leads me to believe that they don't feel it will help them nearly as much as it would help Trump and their best bet is to keep her alive for more than a year and win in 2020 at all costs.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:20 AM

Giuliani cancels paid appearance next week at Kremlin-backed conference

Rudolph W. Giuliani, whose actions as President Trump’s personal lawyer have helped set in motion an impeachment inquiry, abruptly canceled his scheduled paid appearance at a Kremlin-backed conference in Armenia next week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-set-to-make-paid-appe
arance-next-week-at-kremlin-backed-conference/2019/09/27/a15ab242-e133-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:23 AM

Trump says he raised Hunter Biden allegations with his China go-between

Trump’s comments could attract interest in light of the impeachment inquiry underway by House Democrats. That investigation focuses on the president’s effort to extract information about Hunter Biden’s job on a Ukrainian gas company’s board at a time when his father was overseeing U.S. policy in that country. Given Trump’s comments, investigators may want to learn whether the president similarly sought information about the Bidens in China.
In remarks to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations on Thursday morning, Trump said he discussed Biden’s China work with Stephen Schwarzman, the chief executive of the investment company Blackstone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-raised-hunter-bi
den-allegations-with-his-china-go-between/2019/09/27/c85fbb8e-e152-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:35 AM

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Trump says he raised Hunter Biden allegations with his China go-between

Trump’s comments could attract interest in light of the impeachment inquiry underway by House Democrats. That investigation focuses on the president’s effort to extract information about Hunter Biden’s job on a Ukrainian gas company’s board at a time when his father was overseeing U.S. policy in that country. Given Trump’s comments, investigators may want to learn whether the president similarly sought information about the Bidens in China.
In remarks to the U.S. Mission to the United Nations on Thursday morning, Trump said he discussed Biden’s China work with Stephen Schwarzman, the chief executive of the investment company Blackstone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-raised-hunter-bi
den-allegations-with-his-china-go-between/2019/09/27/c85fbb8e-e152-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

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lol. Great.

It appears that the Biden's corruption is deeper than initially thought.

Sitting here laughing at what Trump has done to the Legacy Media and those who are still crying 3 years after Trump was elected.

Let's start a list:

1. Defending warkhawk John McCain as a war hero when he died shortly after voicing his displeasure with Trump.

2. Defending the CIA, FBI and other alphabet agencies that they used to be the party of opposition toward.

3. Wishing that GWB was president today and longing for the "good old days".

4. Putting all of their faith in Manafort for over a year. The same Manafort who lied about WMD's in Iraq during the GWB administration.

5. Desiring a change in law to allow Senators to vote in secret and have zero accountability to the public that voted them in from here until perpetuity just so they can get the GOP led senate to oust Trump today.

6. A willingness to overlook corruption in any form it takes if it detracts at all from the task of ousting Trump from office.

Anybody care to add to that list or further elaborate on any of it? I know I'm leaving stuff out.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 12:29 PM

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Former Ukrainian politician says it was a "well-known fact" Trump wanted dirt on Biden

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Monday, September 30, 2019 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: With all due respect JO, you're listening to someone who is either a nutcase or a brainwsher and who was wrong for three years running. Doesn't that tell you anything?

Jo doesn't listen to you. No one but 6 does. What does that tell you??

That's you're stupid?

I listen you to guys, I really do. (Except SECOND because all he ever does is endlessly shovel virtue-signalling crap onto the board). When you guys come up with a decent point, I read it thru and think about it. I go to cnn. I listen to NPR.

You OTOH can't possibly bear to listen to anyone that you don't agree with. The sad thing is, you don't even realize how much your emotions have been manipulated, so all YOU do is listen to the same sources over and over - the ones that manipulated you in the first place. In programming that would be called an "endless loop" ... and you've got no way of breaking out of it. In my next post, I'll address your latest delusion.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 12:33 PM

Shoo comrade troll...

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:00 PM

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Wow, ok. And Trump is still guilty.- CC

You say that will all the certitude you repeated TRUMP!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! over the span of 2+ years. Why should I credit your opinion about anything?- KIKI

Apart from being right about Russia invading Ukraine *cough*

There was no "invasion". Russia did not take and hold Donbas territory against an unwilling population; they assisted rebel elements in a proxy war.

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Crimea *cough*

Yep, they annexed Crimea, after a huge majority voted for it. "Invasion"? Planes, tanks, troops? NOPE!

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and about Trump's involvement with Russia pre-2016 you mean?

WHAT "involvement"? Hillary had more involvement than Trump did.

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Easy, you don't have to listen to me, Kiki. Listen to Trump saying it himself - from the White House released "transcript":

TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

It's not opinion, it's fact.-CC

It's also not a problem. Was there any quid pro quo? Any pressure? Did Zelenskiy even know about the pending funds from the USA? Sheesh! Trump spoke to another President? Big deal.

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SIGGY use to say if there was collusion in 2016 surely we'd have phone conversations...

That's not what I said. The context was that the form of "help" from Russia was that it alllegedly stole the DNC/Podesta emails and sent them via internet to Russia. But not a single packet of that (alleged) international communication was ever intercepted by the NSA. Not one, out of hundreds of millions.

Aside from that, there was an active real-time counterintelligence surveillance of the Trump campaign. Now, "collusion" requires ONGOING communication. Think about it: Even if the terms of the deal were set many years ago (We'll help get you elected if you remove sanctions from Russia and provide a billion-dollar loan to Venezuela) there would STILL have to be communication as situations change. What happens for example if Trump thought the "help was inadequate? Or if neither of Russia's asks are achievable? Don't they have to get together and reset their arragements from time to time? Wouldn't that leave a trail of phone calls?

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aren't like this one that was not caught until a whistle blower had the nerve to call it out?

CC, if there was anything MORE in Trump's closet, don't you think this "whistleblower" would have found it out? Why are they stooping to making a big deal about this nothingburger if they had anything substantive to bring to the table?

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Ukraine is an adversary? Biden and son didn't think so. The Podesta Brothers didn't think so. -KIKI

It is if their president gives in to Trump's flagrant over step. This is all about Trump Making Trump Great Again. If he caves (and I wouldn't blame him if he does, The US represents their survival), then he sets himself up for further []u]extortion/kompromat from Russia.

Krompromate FROM RUSSIA? Are you as delusional as JO is? JO's got an excuse ... he's been propagandized into total paranoia and is suffering from PTSD. What's YOUR excuse?

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No doubt Trump gets together with Putin on a regular basis for some fun dictator chat

WHICH FOR SOME STRANGE REASON ARE NEVER FOUND, despite CIA spying on the WH. Which is why they had to resort to this nothing-burger.

The problem is, one can never prove a negative. There is a person who reads this board and who posts occasionally (who shall remain nameless) that was just as terrified of Saddm's WMD as JO is of Russia. No amount of investigation ... either before-hand by Blix or afterwards by GWB could allay that fear because there was always some other possibility ... maybe Saddam buried them in the desert! Maybe he shipped them into Syria! Maybe ....

It's like your apocryphal "invasion" of Ukraine. Maybe the columns of tanks went across the border under cloud cover! Maybe artillery was placed under trees! Maybe troops were sent in disguised as Ukrainians ....

Hey, I've been there myself, on a medical treatment that involved a pooled blood product right about the time the scope of the mad cow disease transmission was being realized. Maybe there were American personnel and business people in the UK for months and months who were exposed. Maybe they were part of the 25,000 people required to make this product. Maybe ....

You can drive yourself nuts with maybes, chasing your fears into very dark corners with ever-less-likely scenarios. Yes, all of these things are possible, because as they say: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are many horrible things going on without our knowledge, conspiracies among the wealthy, for example, to rob the rest of us of even more wealth. But you gotta go with what the bulk of the evidence shows, and some logic. Who benefits? What is the scope of this conspiracy/threat, and what KIND of evidence would it produce if it were happening?

Stop trying to drive JO crazier than he already is. You're not doing him any favors by encouraging his delusions.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:17 PM

Make no mistake. The trolls here are not American or believers in the rule of law. This shit happens in Russia and is not tolerated here. More Americans are going to hear of this and want it stopped. In other words; impeachment.

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Whistleblower's lawyers claim there's a $50K bounty out to ID him or her

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:21 PM

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That's you're stupid?

too perfect!

No one makes you look as foolish and over stuffed as you do.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:24 PM

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Yep, they annexed Crimea, after a huge majority voted for it...

I think the only appropriate response to any of your weak-ass, over wrought, endless spam fodder posts from here on out is:

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:25 PM

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Speaking of CC being overstuffed ...

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Wow, ok. And Trump is still guilty.- CC

You say that will all the certitude you repeated TRUMP!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! over the span of 2+ years. Why should I credit your opinion about anything?- KIKI

Apart from being right about Russia invading Ukraine *cough*

There was no "invasion". Russia did not take and hold Donbas territory against an unwilling population; they assisted rebel elements in a proxy war.

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Crimea *cough*

Yep, they annexed Crimea, after a huge majority voted for it. "Invasion"? Planes, tanks, troops? NOPE!

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and about Trump's involvement with Russia pre-2016 you mean?

WHAT "involvement"? Hillary had more involvement than Trump did.

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Easy, you don't have to listen to me, Kiki. Listen to Trump saying it himself - from the White House released "transcript":

TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

It's not opinion, it's fact.-CC

It's also not a problem. Was there any quid pro quo? Any pressure? Did Zelenskiy even know about the pending funds from the USA? Sheesh! Trump spoke to another President? Big deal.

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SIGGY use to say if there was collusion in 2016 surely we'd have phone conversations...

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aren't like this one that was not caught until a whistle blower had the nerve to call it out?

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Ukraine is an adversary? Biden and son didn't think so. The Podesta Brothers didn't think so. -KIKI

It is if their president gives in to Trump's flagrant over step. This is all about Trump Making Trump Great Again. If he caves (and I wouldn't blame him if he does, The US represents their survival), then he sets himself up for further []u]extortion/kompromat from Russia.

Krompromate FROM RUSSIA? Are you as delusional as JO is? JO's got an excuse ... he's been propagandized into total paranoia and is suffering from PTSD. What's YOUR excuse?

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No doubt Trump gets together with Putin on a regular basis for some fun dictator chat

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:27 PM

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:30 PM

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Make no mistake. The trolls here are not American or believers in the rule of law. This shit happens in Russia and is not tolerated here. More Americans are going to hear of this and want it stopped. In other words; impeachment.

I really feel the tide is turning.

Only trouble is... it's still up to Pelosi. The same problem the Senate has in that McConnell can block 100 bills by not bringing them up for a vote - too much power in 1 person's hands. The system needs an over haul. We've been too prescious and sentimental about changes imho. There are some obvious ones that need upgrades.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:37 PM

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Even the "whistleblower's" attorneys disagree with the M$M

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Whistleblower's attorney says '60 Minutes' misinterpreted letter in federal protection report
By RISHIKA DUGYALA
09/29/2019 11:14 PM EDT

An attorney for the whistleblower in the Trump-Ukraine scandal said Sunday that CBS’ “60 Minutes” had “completely misinterpreted” a document from his legal group, after the news outlet tweeted that the whistleblower was now under federal protection.

On Sunday night, CBS wrote on Twitter: “‘60 Minutes’ has obtained a letter that indicates the government whistleblower who set off the impeachment inquiry of President Trump is under federal protection because they fear for their safety.”

Two hours later, following significant reaction to the report, Attorney Mark Zaid responded: “NEWS ALERT: 60 Minutes completely misinterpreted contents of our letter, which is now published online.”

NEWS ALERT: 60 Minutes completely misinterpreted contents of our letter, which is now published online at https://t.co/HjmBrEQLEi. Nor have we, as we stated earlier today, reached any agreement with Congress on contact with the whistleblower. Discussions remain ongoing. https://t.co/3XSwmtuRrn
— Mark S. Zaid (@MarkSZaidEsq) September 30, 2019

He added that no agreement has been reached with Congress on contact with the whistleblower, and discussions remain ongoing.

A spokesperson for CBS said in a statement: "60 Minutes stands by its sources and reporting on the whistle-blower. "

The letter — sent Saturday from the Compass Rose Legal Group to the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire — addressed the whistleblower’s personal safety concerns. The attorneys wrote that they “appreciate your office’s support thus far to activate appropriate resources to ensure (the whistleblower’s) safety.”

The attorneys added that President Donald Trump had heightened these concerns by stating Thursday that he wanted to know who the whistleblower and their informant is, because “that’s close to a spy.”

Following reports that Trump had asked Ukraine to dig up damaging information on his political rival, former vice president Joe Biden, House Democrats launched an official impeachment inquiry. Trump and his allies stepped up their attacks over the weekend to discredit the whistleblower complaint and impeachment proceedings.

On Sunday, Trump demanded to meet the whistleblower, whose complaint helped bring impeachment closer to his doorstep.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/09/29/trump-whistleblower-cbs-feder
al-protection-011468

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:39 PM

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burp

Yep, you can't address a single point. You're as predictable as WISHY. The fact that the M$M has whip this nothing-burger into something that even the "whistleblower's" attorneys have to publicly reel in just shows how little there is to this whole thing.

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Speaking of CC being overstuffed ...

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Wow, ok. And Trump is still guilty.- CC

You say that will all the certitude you repeated TRUMP!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! over the span of 2+ years. Why should I credit your opinion about anything?- KIKI

Apart from being right about Russia invading Ukraine *cough*

There was no "invasion". Russia did not take and hold Donbas territory against an unwilling population; they assisted rebel elements in a proxy war.

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Crimea *cough*

Yep, they annexed Crimea, after a huge majority voted for it. "Invasion"? Planes, tanks, troops? NOPE!

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and about Trump's involvement with Russia pre-2016 you mean?

WHAT "involvement"? Hillary had more involvement than Trump did.

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Easy, you don't have to listen to me, Kiki. Listen to Trump saying it himself - from the White House released "transcript":

TRUMP: "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

It's not opinion, it's fact.-CC

It's also not a problem. Was there any quid pro quo? Any pressure? Did Zelenskiy even know about the pending funds from the USA? Sheesh! Trump spoke to another President? Big deal.

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SIGGY use to say if there was collusion in 2016 surely we'd have phone conversations...

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aren't like this one that was not caught until a whistle blower had the nerve to call it out?

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Ukraine is an adversary? Biden and son didn't think so. The Podesta Brothers didn't think so. -KIKI

It is if their president gives in to Trump's flagrant over step. This is all about Trump Making Trump Great Again. If he caves (and I wouldn't blame him if he does, The US represents their survival), then he sets himself up for further []u]extortion/kompromat from Russia.

Krompromate FROM RUSSIA? Are you as delusional as JO is? JO's got an excuse ... he's been propagandized into total paranoia and is suffering from PTSD. What's YOUR excuse?

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No doubt Trump gets together with Putin on a regular basis for some fun dictator chat

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Monday, September 30, 2019 1:45 PM

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Majority Of US Approves Of Impeachment Inquiry

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Monday, September 30, 2019 2:42 PM

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Yep, you can't address a single point.

How long was the Russia thread? You want to dig up that body? You just lie and lie and lie.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 4:45 PM

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Yep, you can't address a single point.

How long was the Russia thread? You want to dig up that body? You just lie and lie and lie.

Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins

WASHINGTON — President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call.

The White House restricted access to the call’s transcript to a small group of the president’s aides, one of the officials said, an unusual decision that is similar to the handling of a July call with the Ukrainian president that is at the heart of House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump. Like that call, the discussion with Prime Minister Scott Morrison of Australia shows the extent to which Mr. Trump sees the attorney general as a critical partner in his goal to show that the Mueller investigation had corrupt and partisan origins, and the extent that Mr. Trump sees the Justice Department inquiry as a potential way to gain leverage over America’s closest allies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pressed-australian-leade
r-to-help-barr-investigate-mueller-inquirys-origins/ar-AAI4KVh?ocid=spartandhp

Sig doesn't have the foresight to see that Trump treats all foreign leaders the way he treated the Ukrainian leader. There's no way to deflect from all that's coming out. Sig kiki and the other Russian trolls are about to be recalled

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Monday, September 30, 2019 4:58 PM

House subpoenas Rudy Giuliani for Ukraine documents as part of impeachment inquiry

House Democrats have subpoenaed President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani for Ukraine-related documents as part of their impeachment inquiry

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-subpoenas-rudy-giuliani-
for-ukraine-documents-as-part-of-impeachment-inquiry/ar-AAI4KMG?ocid=spartandhp

This shits on fire. Trumps talking heads can't do a good job spining it because it's too much to spin. Republicans it's your move. Make it a good one.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 4:59 PM

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Yep, you can't address a single point.

How long was the Russia thread? You want to dig up that body?

Sure!
Let's!
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:03 PM

Pompeo Took Part in Trump-Zelensky Phone Call, Official Says

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was among administration officials who listened in on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a senior State Department official said Monday, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to the House impeachment inquiry

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pompeo-took-part-in-trump-zele
nsky-phone-call-official-says/ar-AAI4zVT?ocid=spartandhp

Can you say oh shit. I can, I can say oh shit.

tick tock

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:09 PM

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The hole he iz digging iz turning into a canyon.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:

The hole he iz digging iz turning into a canyon.

Well put JO...

tick tock

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:16 PM

rezident owtsidr

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
I really feel the tide is turning.

I'm not so optimistic. I'm less pessimistic than 2 weeks ago, but still think we are in big trouble.

Quote:
Only trouble is... it's still up to Pelosi. The same problem the Senate has in that McConnell can block 100 bills by not bringing them up for a vote - too much power in 1 person's hands. The system needs an over haul. We've been too prescious and sentimental about changes imho. There are some obvious ones that need upgrades.

True dat! The American Experiment haz prodused rezults. We can now see wut works and wut duznt. The founderz are wondering wut we're waiting for.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:17 PM

rezident owtsidr

I do read your stuff, Siggy. No need to get angry and repetativ.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:31 PM

Fox host schools Trump adviser in humiliating whistleblower interview

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Monday, September 30, 2019 5:45 PM

Shep Smith talks Chris Wallace & Trumps secret Ukraine operations & frozen Ukraine money

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:13 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by SoggyCerealBrain:
Wow, ok. And Trump is still guilty.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You say that will all the certitude you repeated TRUMP!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! over the span of 2+ years.
Why should I credit your opinion about anything?

Quote:
Originally posted by SoggyCerealBrain:
Apart from being right about Russia invading Ukraine *cough* Crimea *cough* and about Trump's involvement with Russia pre-2016 you mean?

You mean the non-existent battalions of Russian troops crossing the border into Ukraine? THAT invasion?
And Trump's non-existent 'collusion' with Russia AFTER he entered the presidential race? NONE of that adds up to 'collusion'.
So ... Yeah. OK. Whatever.
BTW, how about Hillary's involvement with Russia pre-2016? Was that collusion?

You can take all the bits and pieces of words out of context you want, and try to stitch them into something that says what you want it so say ...

The FACTS ARE -

there was NO 'quid pro quo' in the third-hand gossip/ CIA-operation-masqurading-as-a-whistleblower-complaint as initially reported
nobody in Ukraine knew about funds being withheld and so couldn't have been 'pressured' by that

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:18 PM

Wow, the russian trolls here are desperate to change the topic away from impeachment because you can't spin black and white facts. Shoo trolls...

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:24 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Shoo comrade troll...

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:33 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

JO - after insinuating that somehow, some way, Trump and Russia really DID collude, you posted this

Quote:
Originally posted by JO:
"So, wy do you, 6, Kiki and otherz keep pushing that lie?"

So I asked

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI
What lie is that, JO? That Mueller found no conspiracy?

I'm still curious.

And I suspect you can't actually answer the question, because you are one of ...

... the insane never-Trumpers who have been driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle you mistake for reality.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:34 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Wow, the russian trolls here are desperate to change the topic away from impeachment. Shoo trolls...

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:34 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

JO - after insinuating that somehow, some way, Trump and Russia really DID collude, you posted this

Quote:
Originally posted by JO:
"So, wy do you, 6, Kiki and otherz keep pushing that lie?"

So I asked

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI
What lie is that, JO? That Mueller found no conspiracy?

I'm still curious. What lie is that, JO?

And I suspect you can't actually answer the question, because you are one of ...

... the insane never-Trumpers who have been driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle you mistake for reality.

Though, fwiw, I don't think it's just about Trump or the people here. I tracked your posts back in time, and your ungrounded thinking started some time ago ... after you lost your mom, and then your job. It's my sense that your mom - a real live person with whom you had daily contact and for whom you had real-world responsibilities that needed to be timely - kept you significantly grounded; as did your job to a lesser extent.

You've gotten lost in the endless vaporous loops of your own thinking.

ETA: I think that happens when you live in a situation without significant real-world connections, consequences, or feedback.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:41 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

What THUGR and CC and the M$M post is 99.999% HOT AIR

Emphasis added to assist people's apparently poor comprehension skills

Quote:
Aussie PM Confirms No Coercion, "Was Ready To Assist" In Mueller Origins Probe

Update (1740ET): Less than an hour after the New York Times dropped their 'bombshell' whistleblower claims that President Trump coerced the Australian PM into assisting his investigation into the origins of the Mueller probe, the Aussie PM's office has destroyed the narrative in two short sentences. An official statement confirmed:

“The Australian Government has always been ready to assist and cooperate with efforts that help shed further light on the matters under investigation. The PM confirmed this readiness once again in conversation with the President”

The deep state must be desperate.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 6:58 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I do read your stuff, Siggy. No need to get angry and repetativ.

I'm not angry, but it DOES seem that facts need to be repeated because they get lost in the blather.

So, here is some of CC's blather, and my response ...

Quote:
No doubt Trump gets together with Putin on a regular basis for some fun dictator chat- CC

WHICH FOR SOME STRANGE REASON ARE NEVER FOUND, despite CIA spying on the WH. Which is why they had to resort to this nothing-burger.

The problem is, one can never prove a negative. There is a person who reads this board and who posts occasionally (who shall remain nameless) that was just as terrified of Saddm's WMD as JO is of Russia. No amount of investigation ... either before-hand by Blix or afterwards by GWB could allay that fear because there was always some other possibility ... maybe Saddam buried them in the desert! Maybe he shipped them into Syria! Maybe ....

It's like your apocryphal "invasion" of Ukraine. Maybe the columns of tanks went across the border under cloud cover! Maybe artillery was placed under trees! Maybe troops were sent in disguised as Ukrainians ....

Hey, I've been there myself, on a medical treatment that involved a pooled blood product right about the time the scope of the mad cow disease transmission was being realized. Maybe there were American personnel and business people in the UK for months and months who were exposed. Maybe they were part of the 25,000 people required to make this product. Maybe ....

You can drive yourself nuts with maybes, chasing your fears into very dark corners with ever-less-likely scenarios. Yes, all of these things are possible, because as they say: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are many horrible things going on without our knowledge, conspiracies among the wealthy, for example, to rob the rest of us of even more wealth. But you gotta go with what the bulk of the evidence shows, and some logic. Who benefits? What is the scope of this conspiracy/threat, and what KIND of evidence would it produce if it were happening?

Stop trying to drive JO crazier than he already is. You're not doing him any favors by encouraging his delusions.

Unlike CC, who is ideologically-possessed and extremely partisan, I credit you with having genuine fears. What I don't like is to see CC use your fears for his own cynical purpose of getting people "on his side".

I think there's a lot more at stake, and a lot more going wrong with the USA that can't be cured just by changing Dem for GOP "sides", and anyone who pretends that getting rid of Trump will solve our worst problems has either parted company with reality or is fundamentally anti-American because they care more about their party or their personal grotches than their fellow citizens.

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Monday, September 30, 2019 7:05 PM

Notice the trolls spew out a lot of shit but leave no links to confirm it's whats being reported on. I hear the tick tock of the impeachment clock.

T

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Monday, September 30, 2019 7:23 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

tic tac

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Monday, September 30, 2019 7:44 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Notice the trolls spew out a lot of shit but leave no links to confirm it's whats being reported on. I hear the tick tock of the impeachment clock.

T

Here's a linky for you.

Quote:
SYDNEY, Oct 1 (Reuters) - Australia's prime minister had a telephone call with U.S. President Donald Trump, a spokesperson was quoted saying on Tuesday, after media reports that Trump sought help investigating the origins of the Mueller investigation.

"The Australian government has always been ready to assist and cooperate with efforts that help shed further light on the matters under investigation," the Australian Broadcasting Corp. quoted an unnamed federal government spokesperson as saying.

"The PM confirmed this readiness once again in conversation with the president," the spokesperson added, according to the ABC. The spokesperson did not say when the call took place.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-confirms-prime-minister-spoke
-222832657.html

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Monday, September 30, 2019 9:07 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

And since your reading comprehension is subpar here is the title and linky AGAIN that you missed the first time

Quote:
Whistleblower's attorney says '60 Minutes' misinterpreted letter in federal protection report

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/09/29/trump-whistleblower-cbs-feder
al-protection-011468

As far as I can tell, everything that you collectively have brought up - from phone call that precipitated this hysterical episode to everything that followed is ... just like RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA ... manure whipped up into a froth with hot air.

Yanno, a real crappuccino

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:46 PM

WISHIMAY

So HOW many countries has Chump been scratching at the door, begging for scraps of something that doesn't even exist?

Russia
Australia
China
Ukraine

It reeks of absolute desperation. He knows he leaves office it's going to get bad for him.
It'd be funny if it weren't so sick.

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

On August 11, 2019 Signym asked "What have Nazis DONE TO ANYONE?" That question wins first place for the Dumbest Question Ever Asked On The Internet.
SHOOT ALL FASCISTS IN THE HEAD! DANCE ON THEIR GRAVES, FREE ALL THE SLAVES!!

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:50 PM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
anti-American because they care more about their party or their personal grotches than their fellow citizens.

I know...PEOPLE, right?

It's almost like you really can't rely on any group of people to do the right thing on any given day, and that systems that are built on that are destined to fail...

Shocking, right??

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Monday, September 30, 2019 11:51 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
So HOW many countries has Chump been scratching at the door
Russia
Australia
China
Ukraine

WTF?

How about posting something that makes the slightest bit of sense.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2019 12:48 AM

rezident owtsidr

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JO - after insinuating that somehow, some way, Trump and Russia really DID collude, you posted this
Quote:
Originally posted by JO:
"So, wy do you, 6, Kiki and otherz keep pushing that lie?"
So I asked
What lie is that, JO? That Mueller found no conspiracy? I'm still curious.

The so called Russia Hoax fable that the GoP propaganda factory haz been playing in the eko chamber.

Tonites exiting episode uv The Rachel Maddow Show explained how the TrumPutin Conspirasy links up with the Ukraine Call skandle and other breaking newz about AG Barr, Pompeo and Guiliani.

New clarity emerjez!

It iz all about lifting the sanctionz for the invasion uv Ukraine and interfering in our election. O WAIT! Not all about - Its also about Trump disassembling Obama'z billion dollar European Reassurance Initiative!
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/03/fact-
sheet-european-reassurance-initiative-and-other-us-efforts-support-

So you are going to hav trouble pushing that lie about 'Trump haz dun more agenst Russia than Obama ever did' now.

I didnt post the Youtube kuz it wuz the streaming kind that disappearz within owrz.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2019 1:16 AM

rezident owtsidr

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Though, fwiw, I don't think it's just about Trump or the people here. I tracked your posts back in time, and your ungrounded thinking started some time ago ... after you lost your mom, and then your job.

Your tracking skillz are not well developed.

My mom kikt the buket in 2017, well after it started bekuming obvious that Trump wuz working for Putin. And I only had a job for 4 months earlier this yir.

My "ungrounded" thinking about Trump began in 2015 wen I predicted haf jokingly that he woud win.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2019 1:26 AM