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A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution
Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:50 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:52 AM
REAVERFAN
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SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:SECONDRATE: Even Rand Paul's neighbors want to kill him
Quote: On the afternoon of November 3, Paul was mowing his lawn in the well-to-do gated community where he's lived for 17 years. It's an enclave dotted with swimming pools, an artificial lake, and at least one private tennis court—a place where the Greek revival homes feature grand columns out front that support porticos and little balconies. Actually, the columns on Paul's house are rather modest by the standards of the neighborhood—a fact that doesn't escape notice. "They pick on Rand because he has the smallest one [PORTICO WITH COLUMNS] out there," one local confided in me. According to The New York Times, he had just stepped off of his riding lawnmower when Boucher tackled him from behind. The senator apparently never heard Boucher coming because he was wearing "sound-muting earmuffs." Describing the alleged attack, Paul's spokesman, Sergio Gor, said his boss was "blindsided." Jim Skaggs, who lives nearby (and is also one of the developers of the Rivergreen community), said that he thinks that Boucher charged at Paul from the street. From that direction, Paul's yard slopes steeply downward, toward the lake at the rear of his property. Barreling downward about 30 degrees, this imagined path would increase the force of a running tackle, perhaps explaining how a man of Boucher's diminutive stature—an acquaintance of the two men estimates that they both stand five-foot-six and weigh about 140 pounds—could do so much damage. ... Paul finally tweeted that he in fact had broken six ribs and suffered a "pleural effusion," an accumulation of excess liquid in his chest. According to Tim Pritts, director of surgery at the University of Cincinnati medical school and an expert in trauma, the liquid in question was probably blood. But even if you grant Boucher the momentum of a downhill charge, the injuries Paul suffered are extreme, according to Pritts (who hasn't treated Paul). An unarmed assault rarely results in more than a broken rib or two. The injuries Paul suffered sound to him more consistent with a car accident, or a fall down a flight of stairs—or even from the top of a building. "I've seen a few from people getting kicked by horses," added Pritts, who speculated that Paul's injuries may indicate he was stomped on while lying on the ground. For Boucher, 59, an arrest of this sort is an unlikely claim to fame. His allegedly inflicting on his state's junior senator the type of damage more commonly associated with a horse surprised plenty of those who know him. The son of a New England gym teacher, Boucher had served as a doctor in the Army before embarking on a lucrative career in Kentucky, where he raised two bright, successful children. But there have been setbacks for Boucher in recent years. In 2005, a bicycle accident left him with a badly injured back. He had already been tinkering with an idea for an invention to relieve pain: a vest filled with rice that could be heated in the microwave. Following his accident, he turned misery into good fortune, perfecting the vest and convincing the home-shopping network QVC to begin selling it. Goodwin, who described Boucher as fiercely principled, said part of the motivation for inventing the vest was to reduce patients' reliance on painkiller medication. He added that Boucher once stopped working with a particular pain clinic after concluding that it was too loose in prescribing opioids, and that his own friendship with Boucher became strained for a time because of an acquaintance that Boucher was apparently convinced had occasionally smoked marijuana. "His father taught him the old way, but he [BOUCHER] lives in a new world," Goodwin said, describing a man apparently at odds, on occasion, with those around him. ... In 2008, Boucher's wife, Lisa, filed for divorce. After that, Boucher was ready to move out of the Rivergreen community, and he put his home on the market. In April 2012, a couple agreed to buy the place but then backed out at the last minute, alleging problems with the house's air-conditioning units and prompting Boucher to sue them for breach of contract. He ended up getting the $10,000 deposit the couple had put in escrow, which they had offered to forfeit from the outset anyway. According to the Daily Mail, Boucher may have been angered by Paul's decision to plant trees that now block the view of the lake once enjoyed from Boucher's house, lowering the property value. If Boucher had been a luckier man, he might be living now in happy obscurity in Florida, where his son practices law, which, according to Skaggs, had been his intention. Instead, he's stayed put and poured a good deal of attention into his yard. A Bowling Green resident who said she's known Boucher and his ex-wife for close to a decade but asked that her name be withheld said Boucher has "some OCD issues." Others corroborate this description. "He's kind of a neatnik in his yard," said Skaggs, the co-developer who built Rivergreen 20 years ago. "You'd see all the little clippings sitting in little plastic bags waiting for pickup every week." Indeed, on a recent afternoon, a black garbage bag filled with yard clippings still sat in Boucher's driveway in front of his three-car garage. Planters flanking the front steps and the back of the house were all neatly stacked with the same seasonal ornament: a greenish-black-and-white gourd on top of a solid white gourd on top of an orange pumpkin. Like most everyone else in the Rivergreen development, Goodwin told me, Boucher pays in the ballpark of $150 a month for professional landscaping, while Paul insists on maintaining his yard himself. Goodwin said that part of what nagged at Boucher was the difference in grass length between his lawn and that of his libertarian neighbor's. "He had his yard sitting at a beautiful two-and-a-half, three inches thick, where Rand cuts it to the nub," Goodwin said. Also at issue, according to Goodwin, is Paul's tendency to mow outward at the edge of his property, spraying his clippings into Boucher's yard. Boucher, he said, has asked Paul to instead mow inward when near the boundary line, and even sought help from the Rivergreen Homeowners Association but has gotten no relief. Advertisement Goodwin recalled picking up Boucher, a devout Catholic, at his home after church one Sunday afternoon several years ago. Boucher had confronted Paul about his yard-maintenance practices a few minutes before Goodwin's arrival, to no avail, and Goodwin saw Boucher grow agitated as they both watched Paul blow grass onto his lawn. "I've asked him and I've asked him and I've asked him," Goodwin recalls Boucher fuming. "How long can you sit there taking someone plucking a hair out of your nose?" Goodwin asked. "How long could you take that before losing your temper?" Those close to Paul don't recognize the description of a man who flouts his neighbors' wishes. "[Rand] was loved by his patients and is loved by his neighborhood," said Jennifer Wentworth, Paul's partner for 10 years in a shared ophthalmology practice and a neighbor of both men. "I do not know the details of what transpired between he and Rene Boucher, but I do know he did not deserve to be assaulted in his own yard."
Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:37 PM
Quote: SECONDRATE: Rand Paul's history of being a liar and being obnoxious is well known
Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:51 PM
Quote: SECONDRATE: Police taught a simple rule: ‘You don’t shoot a perp in his back’
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: ALSO Quote: SECONDRATE: Rand Paul's history of being a liar and being obnoxious is well known REALLY? I didn't know about it! What has he lied about? When has he been obnoxious? LINKS PLEASE, OR YOU'RE JUST BLOWING SMOKE, AGAIN. ***** PLEASE NOTE: I'm not defending Rand Paul's political views. Like I do with many libertarians, I strongly agree with some, and strongly disagree with others. I'm just here pointing out that SECONDRATE's endless font of hate is causing him to lie... again... about those he hates: Republicans. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Just to give you an idea of how stupid these BLMer/Antifags are
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Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Who would that be? ... all registered Democrats? You mean like that?
Quote:Originally posted by DumbAssJack: lol. Yup.
Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Asking again because you both seem to have missed the simple question: Do you or SIG watch CNN?
Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: This whole thing is funnier than sh*t. Every time I see his Fux interview about this and his - WTF "I've just been electrocuted!!!" HAIR, I can't stop laughing. Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Just to give you an idea of how stupid these BLMer/Antifags are
Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:24 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Check - you hate Kiki and Siggy. Make sense - they proclaimed themselves as registered Democrats on this site, so to you, of course they must suck.
Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:51 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Here's a vid of Kyle hitting a girl from behind. What a fucked up little pussy he is. Can't wait to see him go to prison. He'll be everybody's little bitch in there. They'll beat and rape him every day.
Saturday, August 29, 2020 6:42 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:She started it.
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Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:She started it. Eh - no. Thanks to the intervening car, you can't tell who started it. But by the time Kyle came out of far right field to throw some punches, it was pretty obvious he wasn't in it at the start, and was just coming in to an ongoing fight, NOT in self defense. And btw I fully expect you to go all trollish just because a female stated an opinion that was different from yours, and said you were wrong. But that's your problem. I'm not going to ask permission to post my opinions or apologize for them, just because you have issues with women.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Which one is Kyle? All these white boys look alike to me. I think he's the one with the red/white/blue shorts. So, Kyle is walking away. The girl on the rose pants starts hitting his friend, and he comes back in to hit her. Yep, she started it. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I quite by chance paused the video on the frame where I could see Ms Pink Pants thru the rearview of the passing car, and she quite clearly was the one who started hitting first. I don't know what you're pissing about, SIX. KIKI said she couldn't see who started it, but that it definitely wasn't Kyle. You're actually on the same side on this. What's your problem?
Quote:Eh - no. Thanks to the intervening car, you can't tell who started it. But by the time Kyle came out of far right field to throw some punches, it was pretty obvious he wasn't in it at the start, and was just coming in to an ongoing fight, NOT in self defense.
Quote:And btw I fully expect you to go all trollish just because a female stated an opinion that was different from yours, and said you were wrong. But that's your problem. I'm not going to ask permission to post my opinions or apologize for them, just because you have issues with women.
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Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:01 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I quite by chance paused the video on the frame where I could see Ms Pink Pants thru the rearview of the passing car, and she quite clearly was the one who started hitting first. I don't know what you're pissing about, SIX. KIKI said she couldn't see who started it, but that it definitely wasn't Kyle. You're actually on the same side on this. What's your problem? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: The people rioting, burning down buildings, attacking store owners, and looting are not from Kenosha. They are organized and bussed in. This is a fascist insurrection hiding behind the protest of true patriots. Trump has all his Nazi minions feeling justified to murder, just like the little terrorist felt. They don't think. Their worldview is false and based on emotion, hate and murder.
Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Hmmmmm... From those pics it looks like Kyle is less white than Kamala Harris is black. I'm sure that is going to screw with the Legacy Media narrative on this one. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: The people rioting, burning down buildings, attacking store owners, and looting are not from Kenosha. They are organized and bussed in.
Quote:This is a fascist insurrection hiding behind the protest of true patriots. Trump has all his Nazi minions feeling justified to murder
Quote: They YOU don't think. Their YOUR worldview is false and based on emotion, hate and murder.
Quote:We're going to go extinct, SOON!!! Covington students assault Native elder. Tucker Carlson "credibly" accused of rape. There are no riots and looting, it's all peaceful protests. Adam Haner tried to run protesters down White racists are uniformly fascist, no exceptions
Sunday, August 30, 2020 4:00 AM
Quote:The "I'm a Democrat but all I do is attack Democrats and praise Republicans" shtick is worn out and unoriginal. It's just a troll thing.
Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:36 PM
Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The "I'm a Democrat but all I do is attack Democrats and praise Republicans" shtick is worn out and unoriginal. It's just a troll thing.
Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The "I'm a Democrat but all I do is attack Democrats and praise Republicans" shtick is worn out and unoriginal. It's just a troll thing. Well, son, I have been here a long, long time, and when GWB was President I had a lot to criticize then, too! I've always been interested in other people here. Most dangerous job http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=16265 None too happy about the Iraq war http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=6609 http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=7409 Or GWB http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=6308 http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=7427 http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=8516 http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=7602 http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=10019 There are a lot more, but you should get the idea by now. Yanno, it's a source of constant wonderment that you post all kinds of "facts" but you never, ever look up the simplest things to see if they're true. So all you wind up with ANOTHER narrative down the drain, and a lot of egg on your face! ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
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Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: No wonder you're wrong about almost everything. You refuse to see what's right in front of you. ----------- REAVERBOT: IYou just parrot every Russian troll talking point in the world. You're not unique.
Sunday, August 30, 2020 3:02 PM
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