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Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap Whitmer

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 12:54 PM

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-
thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

The court filing also alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's vacation home and discussed kidnapping her to a remote location in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."
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Jesus, these people are absolute loons.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:33 PM

Dangerous loons who had conducted surveillance and were planning to bomb a bridge as a distraction. Sourced Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1314250371464867840

They aren't a "militia." I wish they'd label them what they are: Domestic terrorists.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 3:11 PM

Months after Trump urged supporters to "liberate Michigan," members of a far right militia have been arrested for plotting to kidnap the Governor of Michigan. Donald Trump encouraged this shit.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/governor-gr
etchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot-militia/5921409002/

It's known as stochastic terrorism. Trump and Fox do it all the time.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:15 PM

Whitmer doesn’t believe Barr was unaware of death threats against her, she tells CNN
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/07/whitmer-doesnt-believe-b
arr-was-unaware-of-death-threats-against-her-she-tells-cnn.html

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:18 PM

Whitmer is going to prison.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 12:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whitmer is going to prison.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

She would have to do something illegal for that to happen.

Your buddies here, though...

Don't drop the soap!

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Friday, October 9, 2020 12:54 PM

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Friday, October 9, 2020 1:37 PM

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whitmer is going to prison.

For...?

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Friday, October 9, 2020 2:01 PM

Feds say plot was bigger than kidnapping Gov. Whitmer. It was civil war attempt.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/whitmer-wol
verine-watchmen-militia-michigan/5924617002/

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Friday, October 9, 2020 2:09 PM

Donald Trump Must Be Held Responsible for the Michigan Terrorist Plot
This plot is no accident. It is the essence of Trumpism.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/10/09/donald-trump-must-be-hel
d-responsible-michigan-terrorist-plot

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Friday, October 9, 2020 2:29 PM

Both sides are just as bad.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:29 PM

Trump Keeps Inciting Domestic Terrorism
Even after the FBI disrupted an alleged terrorist plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, the president keeps fanning the flames of violence.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-kidnap-terrorism-whit
mer/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%2010.09.2020&utm_term=daily

As Politico correspondent Tim Alberta noted, “If the president read his intel briefings and understood the dogma of white nationalist groups, he’d realize that language like ‘LIBERATE MICHIGAN!’ is read as tacit permission—if not explicit encouragement—for militias to take action.”

This was the argument that Whitmer herself took up in a press conference discussing the plot against her. “Just last week, the president of the United States stood before the American people and refused to condemn white supremacists and hate groups like these two Michigan militia groups,” Whitmer said. Speaking on CNN, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel made a similar claim. “We can no longer afford in this nation to have our elected leaders like the President… sending not just winks and nods,” Nassel said. “It’s not a dog whistle… it’s literally a command to action for domestic terrorists.”

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Friday, October 9, 2020 3:56 PM

Charlie with the terrorists, flashing the white power sign.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 4:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Months after Trump urged supporters to "liberate Michigan," members of a far right militia have been arrested for plotting to kidnap the Governor of Michigan. Donald Trump encouraged this shit.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/governor-gr
etchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot-militia/5921409002/

It's known as stochastic terrorism. Trump and Fox do it all the time.

The leader of these loons is a Trump hater...DID YA KNOW THAT!! Likely no, because you're stupid.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 5:07 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Months after Trump urged supporters to "liberate Michigan," members of a far right militia have been arrested for plotting to kidnap the Governor of Michigan. Donald Trump encouraged this shit.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/governor-gr
etchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot-militia/5921409002/

It's known as stochastic terrorism. Trump and Fox do it all the time.

The leader of these loons is a Trump hater...DID YA KNOW THAT!! Likely no, because you're stupid.

He's an ancap terrorist. A reichwing terrorist. His social media is full of praise for trumptard terrorists, too.

But, no one expects a Russian troll to know these things.

Several suspects in plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer tied to ’boogaloo’ movement, posted pro-Trump content online: reports
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-some-suspects-in-plot-to-
kidnap-whitmer-tied-to-boogaloo-20201009-6xdf2sty5vefrkmary6vgf3srq-story.html

Whitmer conspiracy allegations tied to 'boogaloo' movement
Several of the men charged with a conspiracy to kidnap Michigan's governor have histories of anti-government organizing, according to their online profiles.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/whitmer-conspiracy-allegations-
tied-boogaloo-movement-n1242670

You should know better than to lie like you do.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 5:16 PM

Charlie's been a bad boy, in general.

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Friday, October 9, 2020 7:38 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Trump says Gov. Whitmer deserved kidnapping but he saved her, yet she won't thank him.

www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/09/president-trumps-criticiz
es-gov-whitmer-in-series-of-tweets/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whitmer is going to prison.

For...?

Continuing to strip Michigan citizens of their Constitutional rights after Michigan's Supreme Court said that's exactly what she was doing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Whitmer is going to prison.

For...?

Continuing to strip Michigan citizens of their Constitutional rights after Michigan's Supreme Court said that's exactly what she was doing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:53 PM

I know you think it's funny. You hate the Constitution.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:18 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

This group seemed to be inspired not by white supremacist ideology or left/right partisanship, but rather by an off-the-cliff radical variant of a feeling deeply rooted in American culture: fear and hatred of government.

The 15-page FBI affidavit against the terrorists—who called their group the Wolverine Watchmen—contains verbatim excerpts of conversations. At least in the passages cited in the affidavit, there are no racist remarks or references to President Donald Trump’s rhetoric. More typical is this soliloquy on July 24 by Adam Fox, clearly the group’s leader:

In all honesty, right now … I just wanna make the world glow, dude. I’m not even fuckin’ kidding. I just wanna make it all glow, dude. I don’t fuckin’ care anymore. I’m just so sick of it. That’s what it’s gonna take for us to take it back. … Everything’s gonna have to be annihilated, man. We’re gonna topple it all, dude. It’s what great frickin’ conquerors, man, we’re just gonna conquer every fuckin’ thing, man.

Their particular agitation toward Michigan’s Democratic governor, Gretchen Whitmer, seems to have been sparked by her lockdown orders in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic. At least two of the Wolverine Watchmen were among the armed protesters who stormed and briefly occupied the Michigan State Capitol in Lansing this past May.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/10/michigan-plot-wolverine-wa
tchmen-whitmer.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by second:
In all honesty, right now … I just wanna make the world glow, dude. I’m not even fuckin’ kidding. I just wanna make it all glow, dude. I don’t fuckin’ care anymore. I’m just so sick of it. That’s what it’s gonna take for us to take it back. … Everything’s gonna have to be annihilated, man. We’re gonna topple it all, dude. It’s what great frickin’ conquerors, man, we’re just gonna conquer every fuckin’ thing, man.

Sounds like Antifa and BLM have a lot in common with them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:44 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you think it's funny. You hate the Constitution.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I know the only people going to prison will be the America-hating reichwing terrorists you love and support.

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In all honesty, right now … I just wanna make the world glow, dude. I’m not even fuckin’ kidding. I just wanna make it all glow, dude. I don’t fuckin’ care anymore. I’m just so sick of it. That’s what it’s gonna take for us to take it back. … Everything’s gonna have to be annihilated, man. We’re gonna topple it all, dude. It’s what great frickin’ conquerors, man, we’re just gonna conquer every fuckin’ thing, man.

Sounds like Antifa and BLM have a lot in common with them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

They want to stop fascism and racist police actions.

These guys are pulling their puds in your circle jerk, not participating in making the world a better place.

I know you can't comprehend what compassion is, but intelligent people do.

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 8:48 AM

There is nothing compassionate about burning everything down.

Check your BAMN bullshit. You come off as Nazis.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:41 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There is nothing compassionate about burning everything down.

Check your BAMN bullshit. You come off as Nazis.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That's why nobody's burning everything down. Fox plays video of fires from soccer riots in fucking Europe, and people think the whole country's burning down.

Well, our forests, but not the cities where the overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrations are taking place.

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:41 AM

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 12:23 PM

In op-ed, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer says President Trump legitimizes actions of domestic terrorists, vows to hold him accountable
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/10/nation/op-ed-michigan-governor-
gretchen-whitmer-says-president-trump-legitimizes-actions-domestic-terrorists-vows-hold-him-accountable/

One day after authorities announced they had disrupted an alleged plot to kidnap her, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer wrote in an op-ed published in the Washington Post that President Trump legitimized the actions of domestic terrorists by refusing to condemn white supremacists and vowed to “hold him accountable.”

“When our leaders encourage domestic terrorists, they legitimize their actions," Whitmer wrote. "When they stoke and contribute to hate speech, they are complicit. And when a sitting president stands on a national stage refusing to condemn white supremacists and hate groups, as President Trump did when he told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” during the first presidential debate, he is complicit.”
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She's my kind of Democrat. Not the least bit afraid to call out Republicans. If only the party as a whole were like that.

There's a reason the GOP targeted her. They fear nothing more than a strong woman.

Imagine if people were as upset with Governor Snyder for poisoning Flint's water as much as they are with Governor Whitmer for trying to get them to wear masks.

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:37 PM

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Saturday, October 10, 2020 5:56 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Apparently one of the suspects attended a BLM rally and another one called Trump a "tyrant".

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Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:50 AM

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Apparently one of the suspects attended a BLM rally and another one called Trump a "tyrant".

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Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:52 AM

Democrats and corporate media cover-up Trump’s role in Michigan coup plot
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/10/10/pers-o10.html

The only significant statements about the broader framework of the conspiracy have come from Michigan officials. The state’s attorney general, Dana Nessel, told MSNBC’s Katy Tur yesterday: “I will tell you this: this may very well be the tip of the iceberg. I don’t feel as though our work or the work of the federal authorities is complete. And I think there are still dangerous individuals that are out there.”

Speaking yesterday on ABC’s “Good Morning America”, Whitmer warned, “I’m not the only governor going through this… It is not unique to me.”

Neither Michigan official gave any details of what they know. However, it is clear that the threats to kill governors and launch insurrections are focused on battleground states with Republican legislatures and Democratic governors: Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. These states are the linchpin of Trump’s strategy to carry out a coup.

In May, Salon reported police were investigating organized militias armed with assault rifles who were threatening North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper over lockdown measures. Anti-lockdown protesters were bused to the state Capitol with “enthusiastic astroturf support from Republican operatives and megadonors—one of whom offered to pay to bus protesters into the city.”

In Pennsylvania, a 28-year-old was charged on May 11 for organizing an armed group to kill Democratic Governor Tom Wolf. The next day, on May 12, Trump tweeted: “The great people of Pennsylvania want their freedom now and they are fully aware of what that entails.”

In Wisconsin, fascist gunman Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed two protesters on August 23 during protests in Kenosha against the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Rittenhouse was part of a network of fascist militia who descended upon the city. Trump praised Rittenhouse and defended his actions, writing in August that “he was in big trouble. He probably would have been killed.”
Similar threats have been made against the Democratic governors in other states.

Yesterday, a radio station in Louisiana (which is not considered a battleground state) reported that “more than 30 groups designated as ‘hate groups’ or anti-government militias like the group arrested last week in Michigan” place Democratic Governor John Bel Edwards’ life in danger.

In January, when over 10,000 militia rallied at the Virginia state capital in Richmond, Democratic Governor Ralph Northam said he had “credible intelligence” that the demonstrators “may be armed and have as their purpose not peaceful assembly, but violence, rioting and insurrection.” A state legislator, Democratic Socialists of America member Lee Carter, was forced to flee the capital to a safe house due to threats against his life.

On September 17, FBI Director Christopher Wray told the House of Representatives that the agency was conducting “a good bit north of 1,000 [investigations of far-right violence] this year.” This was “higher” than normal, he said, explaining that the threat posed by right-wing militias was “commensurate with ISIS.”
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I've seen a lot of news sources claiming they were anarchists. yet when I read the article on how the FBI tracked them down it said clearly they were "preparing for a boogaloo" as in what the reichwingers on 4chan call everyone just using their guns to shoot all the types of people they don't like. They aren't anarchists, they're fascist paramilitaries.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 8:43 AM

Trump demands FBI focus on ‘radical left’ — one week after right-wing militants arrested for plotting kidnap of Dem governor
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump-demands-fbi-focus-on-radical-le
ft-one-week-after-right-wing-militants-arrested-for-plotting-kidnap-of-dem-governor/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5645

Despite the president’s rantings about left-wing violence, most federal law enforcement officials, including current FBI Director Christopher Wray, say that the biggest terrorism threats in the United States come from white supremacist militants.
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They are Trump's paramilitary brownshirts. He loves his terrorist followers.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 8:57 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Apparently one of the suspects attended a BLM rally and another one called Trump a "tyrant"

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The plot against Whitmer came undone when a member of the group grew concerned that they planned to “target and kill police officers” and reached out to the feds, ultimately agreeing to become an informant. That informant confirmed that militia groups periodically met for field training exercises in a remote property in Michigan, where they also attempted to construct IEDs using “black powder, balloons, a fuse, and BBs for shrapnel,” according to the affidavit. The devices, however, were faulty and were never able to detonate as planned.
Being anti-government and anti-police does not make someone "right wing". At some point on the "anarchy" spectrum, if you go far enough left you meet those who've gone far enough right. At that point, "left wing" and "right wing" don't apply... they're just anti-government anarchists.

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So too is 23-year-old Daniel Harris from Lake Orion, Michigan. A LinkedIn page corresponding to Harris in that small Detroit-area town lists his current occupation as “security guard,” but indicates he served as a rifleman in the U.S. Marine Corps until last year.

An individual of that name was quoted complaining about excessive use of force by police and alluding to his background at an anti-racist protest in Lake Orion in June.

“It is a shame what happened with George Floyd and instances where law enforcement officers murder an unarmed man/woman who isn’t resisting arrest, was complying with the orders is wrong and need to be stopped. You look at photos and videos of news teams and protesters being beaten by riot police when they are there peacefully, you see people losing their eyes because if an officer shoots them with a ‘non-lethal’ round like pepper balls, or rubber bullets,” Harris said. “I’ve gone through that sort of training and I can promise you weapons like that they can turn into a lethal round.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-bust-militia-plot-to-kidnap-michiga
n-gov-gretchen-whitmer-overthrow-government-affidavit-says?ref=home

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Monday, October 12, 2020 9:33 AM

Far Reichwing terrorists. They're not left at all. Why do you constantly lie, Russian troll? Your lies have been debunked. Give up, already.

Your lies crushed, yet again, by me. Again.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 10:06 AM

Far-right militias are ‘energized and prepared to do great harm’ across America, says Michigan AG
https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/far-right-militias-are-energize
d-and-prepared-to-do-great-harm-across-america-says-michigan-ag-93637701544

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel says extremist paramilitary groups like the ones that conspired to kidnap Gov. Whitmer are more active than ever because they thrive on this year’s “constant state of chaos.”
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Mislabeled, again. They're not militas. They're reichwing terror cells.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 11:53 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

You will notice REAVERBOT, that the FBI doesn't call them "white supremacist" or even "right wing" groups. (There were two groups in on the plot.) Nor did the groups discuss creating a "fascist" state.

Their aims were not what YOU keep harping about in "right wing" groups, which would be to support Trump, support an authoritarian state, support the elements of authoritarian state control (police, the military etc.) and suppress a selected category of the population (blacks, gays or what-have-you).

So NONE of the elements that YOU keep crapping your pants about ... secret police, Trump, racism, etc .... appear in any of their goals. In fact, they wanted to do exactly what Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone wanted to do: create their own society and be left alone and talking about attacking the police and reducing government control puts them more in the "antifascist" category.

Extremist?
Yes.
Supporting "fascist" governance?
No.

Expecting nuance and intelligence from you is ... well, apparently it's beyond your capacity ... but just because someone calls themselves "antifascist" doesn't make them so, and just because the media calls someone "right wing" doesn't make them so, either. When you go THAT far out on the "anarchy" spectrum, "right wing" and "left wing" don't apply.

In fact, I don't even know what "right wing" and "left wing" mean anymore, because just like "fascist" and "Nazi" people seem to use words any old way to mean whatever.

I'd settle for just calling them an "anti-government terrorist organization". yanno, kind of like Antifa.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You will notice REAVERBOT, that the FBI doesn't call them "white supremacist" or even "right wing" groups. (There were two groups in on the plot.) Nor did the groups discuss creating a "fascist" state.

Their aims were not what YOU keep harping about in "right wing" groups, which would be to support Trump, support an authoritarian state, support the elements of authoritarian state control (police, the military etc.) and suppress a selected category of the population (blacks, gays or what-have-you).

So NONE of the elements that YOU keep crapping your pants about ... secret police, Trump, racism, etc .... appear in any of their goals. In fact, they wanted to do exactly what Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone wanted to do: create their own society and be left alone and talking about attacking the police and reducing government control puts them more in the "antifascist" category.

Extremist?
Yes.
Supporting "fascist" governance?
No.

Expecting nuance and intelligence from you is ... well, apparently it's beyond your capacity ... but just because someone calls themselves "antifascist" doesn't make them so, and just because the media calls someone "right wing" doesn't make them so, either. When you go THAT far out on the "anarchy" spectrum, "right wing" and "left wing" don't apply.

In fact, I don't even know what "right wing" and "left wing" mean anymore, because just like "fascist" and "Nazi" people seem to use words any old way to mean whatever.

I'd settle for just calling them an "anti-government terrorist organization". yanno, kind of like Antifa.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Please stop lying like a little bitch. You're embarrassing your stupid self.

I already proved you wrong. There is no need for you to keep lying. Your evil has been thoroughly exposed, so fuck off, Russian piece of shit troll.

Ancaps aren't anarchists. They are far-right idiots, like you.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 12:58 PM

Michigan House GOP won't back Republican candidate after Whitmer plot comment
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/10/michigan-ho
use-gop-wont-back-candidate-after-whitmer-plot-comment/5953971002/

The main fundraising committee of Michigan House Republicans won't support a Macomb County GOP candidate in a potentially competitive district who questioned law enforcement's handling of the plot against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

"Conspiracy theories and hateful remarks" from Republican Paul Smith, who's challenging state Rep. Nate Shannon, D-Sterling Heights, don't represent the caucus's values, said House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering and House Republican Campaign Committee Co-Chairman Jason Wentworth, R-Clare, in a statement Saturday.

"That is why the House Republican Campaign Committee is not supporting him and will not spend one dime to get him elected," they said.

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Monday, October 12, 2020 3:51 PM

Would Witless even know if she was kidnapped? Would she be in a different place than her current state of perpetual delusion?

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Monday, October 12, 2020 5:27 PM

Eric Trump cancels event at Michigan gun shop after former employee is linked to domestic terror plot against governor
Former employee was fired and would show up to work in tactical gear, gun shop says
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/10/12/eric-trump-cancel
s-event-at-michigan-gun-shop-after-former-employee-is-linked-to-domestic-terror-plot-against-governor/

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Monday, October 12, 2020 7:32 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I would no more call those people "right wing" than I would call Antifa "left wing".

And the fact that your vlogger calls them ANCAP, and then goes on to say they are "not" anarchists ... does he even know what ANCAP stands for?

ANARCHO-capitalist. ANARCHO. Anarchism. It's right in his name for them.

Did HE understand what he was saying? Apparently not.
Did you understand what he was saying? Apparently not.
Did you even LISTEN to the video that you posted? Apparently not!

It's like you saying that "Nazis" weren't socialist, even tho "Nazi" is short for .... wait for it ... national SOCIALISM.

Dood, you have no idea what words mean.

"Right wing" and "left wing"... what do they even mean? They're just words that you jerk off to, apparently.

How about we call both them and Antifa "anti-government terrorists" and just leave it at that?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Monday, October 12, 2020 10:01 PM

Yup. Anarco-Capitalists have more in common with Antifa than any other group out there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Anarco-Capitalists have more in common with Antifa than any other group out there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You're so wrong, it's funny.

But, since you repeatedly prove that you know absolutely nothing, it's just par for the course.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:24 PM

FBI: Whitmer plotters also discussed kidnapping Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/ralph-northam-gretche
n-witmer-kidnapping-plot/2020/10/13/26b4e31a-0d5f-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Oh, look! Another Democratic Governor who Trump attacked while telling his Nazi thugs to "liberate" the state...

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would no more call those people "right wing" than I would call Antifa "left wing".

And the fact that your vlogger calls them ANCAP, and then goes on to say they are "not" anarchists ... does he even know what ANCAP stands for?

ANARCHO-capitalist. ANARCHO. Anarchism. It's right in his name for them.

Did HE understand what he was saying? Apparently not.
Did you understand what he was saying? Apparently not.
Did you even LISTEN to the video that you posted? Apparently not!

It's like you saying that "Nazis" weren't socialist, even tho "Nazi" is short for .... wait for it ... national SOCIALISM.

Dood, you have no idea what words mean.

"Right wing" and "left wing"... what do they even mean? They're just words that you jerk off to, apparently.

How about we call both them and Antifa "anti-government terrorists" and just leave it at that?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

You, too, are constantly proving that English is not your native language, and that you have a very weak grasp of it.

Anarcho-capitalism, which advocates the abolition of the state in favor of laissez-faire capitalism. -This is basically what the Kochs want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_anarchism

It's always fun to beat the shit out of your stupidity. I do it daily. Constantly. It's easy because I know English and you don't.

What an idiot!

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:41 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
]Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How about we call both them and Antifa "anti-government terrorists" and just leave it at that?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

Anarcho-capitalism, which advocates the abolition of the state ...

I guess you agree with Signy then!! Signy says "anti-government terrorists" and you say "abolition of the state", which - if you understand English - means the same thing!!

THANKS for agreeing.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
]Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How about we call both them and Antifa "anti-government terrorists" and just leave it at that?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:

Anarcho-capitalism, which advocates the abolition of the state ...
I guess you agree with Signy then!! Signy says "anti-government terrorists" and you say "abolition of the state", which - if you understand English - means the same thing!!

THANKS for agreeing.

Another illiterate Russian fascist shit troll speaks.

I kicked 3 asses in a row. God, you are a stupid, stupid troll. I'm surprised you still have a job.

The Russian trolls here are incredibly incompetent.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:54 PM

Here, let Professor Reaverfan educate your low-IQ asses.

I already posted this video, but you're too stupid to watch it.

Go to 6:18

Then STFU.

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Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:57 PM

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQbHJ24QvOhmrMo
_Zokhgx44h5M4-eZRUxGAQ&usqp=CAU

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSO1ZPK4TwVOGHJ
M3Gv3ZO8jFMaG0gWvnJf7w&usqp=CAU

Does that look like the social media of a leftist? He's far right, as I already taught you.

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