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Originally posted by SignyM:
A full 100% of democrats believed the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! conspiracy theory, the "quid pro quo" conspiracy theory, the "Russia paid bounties in Afghanistan" conspiracy theory, that Obama was some sort of progressive saint ... and democrat politicians are still repeating them today! And those are just the whoppers!

If I were to include the "Kavanaugh was a teenage rapist and cover-up" conspiracy theory, the "mostly peaceful riots" hoax, the "children in cages" conspiracy theory, the "Trump supports Nazis" conspiracy theory, and the rest of conspiracy theories and hoaxes, it would number in the dozens.

The latest conspiracy theory? That the Russians planted bogus laptops, despite the fact that the DNI has plainly said that the laptops do NOT contain Russian disinformation, a signed receipt with Hunter Biden's signature, contains highly personal and possibly incriminating photos/videos, and the fact that Hunter Biden himself has not denied the story.

Seriously. Both sides are gullible, but perhaps Dems more than most.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
There's no need for me to continue demonstrating that REAVERBOT is nucking futs. He's done a great job all on his own.

Keep up the good work, son!



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FBI and DOJ do not believe Hunter Biden laptop part of Russian disinformation campaign

Government officials across multiple agencies do not believe the contents on Hunter Biden's laptop are part of a foreign election interference effort.

"1) FBI & DOJ concur w/ Ratcliffe that Hunter Biden's laptop & the emails in question weren't part of a Russian disinformation campaign," Fox News producer Sean Langille tweeted Tuesday evening. "2) The FBI DOES have possession of the Hunter Biden laptop in question." He said it was first reported by Fox News's Justice Department producer Jake Gibson.

A federal law enforcement official confirmed the report with the Washington Examiner.

Since the release of some emails to the New York Post last week, many Democrats and former intelligence officials have speculated that the contents of the hard drive cannot be trusted.

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"We’ve got to get the attorney general to act. He’s got to act. And he’s got to act fast. He’s got to appoint somebody. This is major corruption, and this has to be known about before the election," President Trump said on Fox & Friends Tuesday morning.

The trove of emails and photos first published by the New York Post last week contained insights into Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings, including one deal that seemed to imply a pay-off to his father.

The reporting includes an email that purportedly talks about the younger Biden setting up a meeting between a senior official at the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, where he worked, and his father while the elder Biden was vice president. The Biden campaign has denied that such a meeting took place based on "Biden’s official schedules from the time" but only as it was described in the New York Post.

So far, neither the Biden campaign nor Hunter Biden has denied any other element of the emails story, though the elder Biden has called it part of a "smear campaign." The FBI is reportedly investigating if the Hunter Biden emails stories are tied to a Russian disinformation effort, but Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said on Monday that he didn't believe the news related to the laptop and emails are connected to the Kremlin.

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Burisma hired Hunter Biden after his father was named the White House’s point man on Ukraine. He and Mr. Archer earned millions of dollars from Burisma, a Senate report released last month found.

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So now the M$M is backing away from their conspiracy theory that it's Russian disinformation? Will corporate social media soon follow?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The Mueller Report acolytes: 3 long years of fervent belief followed by 16 months of complete erasure followed by 3 months of reincarnation in a new form saying things it never originally said.

How effing scrambled does your view on reality have to be for your thoughts to go from one state to the next with no memory of what you were thinking before?

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... the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

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Golden showers!

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Or, in the words of the Mueller report

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I know. That's the painful part you spent 16 months making a point of not thinking about, before you decided to spend 3 months and counting rewriting the report in your mind.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you spent half the time holding your own party to the standards you have set for the other party, you might have a leg to stand on when doling out judgements.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you spent half the time holding your own party to the standards you have set for the other party, you might have a leg to stand on when doling out judgements.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I do hold the Democratic Party to high standards, but there is a tiny little catch that you don't understand and I do from experience with Republicans going all the back to the Vietnam War and decades in business and before that, construction: Republicans are liars, cheats, thieves, cowards, goof-offs and con-men. I've seen Republicans under pressure and you guys always act badly, with only rare exceptions, mostly among Republicans who are also Mormons or Nebraskans, and you guys always insist you are not acting badly. Republicans are extremely consistent in that way. Your troubles in life are from your fundamental defectiveness. Your troubles are not caused by Democrats, but you guys can't seem to place the blame on yourself for your screwed-up lives. Republicans always blame somebody else, except those Mormons and Nebraskans. You guys are just fucking weird and you don't know it and you can't learn.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by second:
An example of a Chump supporter believing ANYTHING he was told:

Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani features in compromising scene in movie

Rudy Giuliani made an icky appearance in Amazon’s upcoming “Borat” sequel.

According to the Guardian, footage shows the former New York mayor and current personal lawyer to President Donald Trump reaching into his trousers while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actress playing the teenage daughter of Sacha Baron Cohen’s titular character.
www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-aft
er-compromising-scene-in-new-borat-film

This is how the scene apparently went down: Billed by Cohen, in his comic “gotcha” manner, as an interview for a news show, the action moves to the bedroom of a hotel suite following a suggestion by the female interviewer that she and Giuliani repair there for a drink.

At that point, the actress playing the interviewer takes off his microphone, and he lies back, whereupon enters Borat, saying, “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.” For the record, the actress is not 15. She’s reportedly a full nine years older than that. So, at least there’s that.

Giuliani late Wednesday called the video “a complete fabrication,” and in a series of tweets threatened “much bigger dumps off of the hard drive from hell” that will allegedly implicate Joe Biden.

More humiliation for Rudy Giuliani at
www.marketwatch.com/story/borat-debut-is-an-election-2020-plot-twist-y
ou-didnt-see-coming-as-trump-lawyer-giuliani-features-in-compromising-scene-that-sparks-viral-byerudy-hashtag-11603309346

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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That's because you are a cherry-picking retard "He said if his team had had confidence that Mr Trump "clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so".

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1 Potential Coordination: Conspiracy and Collusion
The investigation did not establish that the contacts described in Volume I, Section IV, supra, amounted to an agreement to commit any substantive violation of federal criminal law—including foreign-influence and campaign-finance laws, both of which are discussed further below. The Office therefore did not charge any individual associated with the Trump Campaign with conspiracy to commit a federal offense arising from Russia contacts, either under a specific statute or under Section 371’s offenses clause.
2 Potential Coordination: Foreign Agent Statutes (FARA and 18 U.S.C. § 951)
As a result, the Office did not charge (redacted) any other Trump Campaign official with violating FARA or Section 951, or attempting or conspiring to do so, based on contacts with the Russian government or a Russian principal.
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... the Office decided not to pursue criminal campaign-finance charges against Trump Jr. or other campaign officials for the events culminating in the June 9 meeting. (Trump Tower)

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Volume II addresses the President’s actions towards the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and related matters, and his actions towards the Special Counsel’s investigation. Volume II separately states its framework and the considerations that guided that investigation.

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Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time,if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

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“There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime.” - Trump
https://time.com/5506815/collusion-crime-obstruction-finance-trump-coh
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I agree with Trump, but collusion was NOT on Mueller's list of things to do. What was on his list?

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I hereby order as follows: (a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed [to] serve as [Special] Counsel for the United States Department of Justice. (b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation [confirmed] by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). (c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. (d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

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Golden showers!

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-go
lden-showers-las-vegas-russia-michael-cohen-book-b404574.html

HE GIVES TIMES AND DATES, DUMBASS.




https://refusefascism.org/

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, in the interests of correcting the re-writing of the Mueller Report, to be very clear:

Volume I addressed "collusion" and clearly found there was none that met the applicable legals standards; and

Volume II addressed "obstruction", where for legal reasons (a person can't be charged if they have no legal mechanism to defend themself) Mueller declined to reach a charging conclusion.

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Sounds like Mueller was investigating what was colloquially called 'collusion' and which is shorthand for the more legal definition.

... in the interests of correcting the re-writing of the Mueller Report, to be very clear:

Volume I addressed "collusion" and clearly found there was none that met the applicable legals standards; and

Volume II addressed "obstruction", where for legal reasons (a person can't be charged if they have no legal mechanism to defend themself) Mueller declined to reach a charging conclusion.

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Originally posted by second:
1kiki, you are crazy to keep insisting Mueller was looking for collusion. Mueller and Trump both knew that collusion is NOT a crime.

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How about addressing what I posted, instead of posting a strawman argument fallacy?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
None of it having to do with RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!, or collusion, or more specifically collusion with RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! .


So, guess what! The Mueller Report found no collusion between Trump or his campaign and Russia to throw the election, which was Mueller's primary remit ... all your attempts to rewrite the facts notwithstanding.

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