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Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonnas

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonnas

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Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie

Oh, but I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
The tall grass waves in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby, give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say good bye

Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, BRENDA, I've sampled some of your picks. You seem to like "outlaw/outsider" songs?

I could never appreciate Elvis bc he became famous when I was young, and I know he was trying to look sexy but at that age "sexy" didn't mean much to me, all I could see was the sneer. Big turnoff. Funny, but I think Billy Idol was a lot the same, but more extreme.

What do you think of Johnny Cash? He's my favorite in the "outlaw/outsider" category.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?




Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles

Downtown - One 2 Many

When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya

Seventeen - Chris LeDoux

No Roots - Alice Merton

Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart

Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade

Holiday - Madonna

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Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.

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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.

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I think what Henley lyrics really paints are intense scenes about places and moments. End of summer, the empty beaches and lakes. Empty fields, people captured by evil dreams. Lyrics not JUST about seduction, but I feel the protagonist in that song had a ather who went away to war ("fly") and died, and that he, too, will be going away to war soon, too, ending HIS innocence.

Plus, I like his voice. And the instrumentals don't overpower that.

*****

Having all of two(!) lyrics to analyze, I think Henley (if he wrote his own lyrics) paints his pictures by contrast.

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Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly

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Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

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O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales

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The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie

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Oh, but I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
The tall grass waves in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

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Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby, give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say good bye

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Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I never thought end of innocence was about sex or physical sense, and certainly don't now.

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t's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night

And it's hard to rely on my own good senses
When I miss so much that requires attention
Have to laugh at myself sometimes
And I can see that I'm not blind

There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
For all the things I've left behind
I'm positive that I'm not blind

I'm not afraid things won't get better
But it feels like this has gone on forever
You have to cry with your own blue tears
Have to laugh with your own good cheer

And it's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night

There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And imagining the world outside
I'm positive that I'm not blind

I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you

Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And when everyone is cold as ice
I clinch my fists and close my eyes
Imagining the world outside
And I can see that I'm not blind

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There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh

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I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you

Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, believe it or not, SIX, but I know NOTHING about Henley. Altho I can remember melodies and sing along with songs that I like, I generally don't remember titles or artists or ... anything. So I dip in and out of listening to music and there are whole decades that I don't know anything about.

But having looked up a couple more songs ("Heart of the Matter" and others) he's a lot more POLTICAL and philosophical than I think you give him credit for. There's a lot on that song about beating plowshares into swords and evil men making war to get elected, and I don't think he put those in there by accident.

Edited to add: I think the end of innocence isn't when its violated. The real end of innocence is when you knowingly participate in something you think is wrong.

I feel like the song is an allegory. Needs some thought.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I found out End of the Innocence was not the same album as Dirty Laundry.

EoTI was released mid-1989. Recorded in 1987. Last single was released in 1985. So EoTI was likely written, composed in 1984, 85, 86, and/or 87.
Bush41 was not President.

I can see 6ix is stuck with sex on the brain.

I realized that I have never heard anybody imply or suggest that that song had anything to do with sex, or any physical sense.

Henley considers the Innocence to be the war years of LBJ, Carter, drug haze days of the 60s and 70s.

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On the Howard Stern radio show, Cross explained that sailing with his friend got him away from the trials and tribulations of being a teenager. Cross said that if the guy had taken him bowling and he enjoyed it, the song could have become "Bowling."

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Originally posted by Brenda:
"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.

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Deleting as the video is unavailable.

The video is of song called "Home" by Michael Buble. He is French Canadian but it is in English. Will post lyrics later.

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"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.

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It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.

I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.

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