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Game Over

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
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Wednesday, August 25, 2021 7:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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I'm sorry, I was unable to complete my post.

I conjure you are not really listening anymore. That's OK.

HIV is an ineffective bioweapon.

Whole groups of folks who were found HIV positive lived for decades without any adverse effects, ailments, maladies, illnesses - whole groups, not merely individuals.

In my book, any bioweapon which cannot produce some ailment, malady, illness, or negative physical effects for a period of 30-40 years is extremely lame ass as a bioweapon.

I am concerned that you are inferring that I am pushing you. This is not the case. I have limited amounts and periods of time when I can post here - the mobile signing function between my phone and this site broke several years ago. I can visit and read, but posting is restricted for me.
You have stated you plan to think about it at some point in the future, and that is fine by me. You sound to me like an intelligent and critical thinker. I am not trying to convince you of anything, but since you have expressed interest in learning things, I am trying to provide you with as many of the underlying foundational concepts as I can, to help you find vectors to look into.
The alternative is to let you wander down the rabbit hole(s) that the Fauci Funnels will send you to, after 40 years of his lies being built up and reinforced with more lies. I prefer to assist with helpful info until you indicate you are no longer interested in thinking.

For decades, in the 50s and 60s and 70s, humans encountered HIV on a regular basis (in population context). Unless they were HIV-Negative and therefore died, nobody really cared.
Luc Montagnier discovered HIV, it sounds like. He did not create it, he did not start any wide distribution of it. But detection of the FULLY WORKING IMMUNE SYSTEM via detection of the ANTIBODY to HIV allowed Fauci and Frauds to target folk who had encountered HIV in the past decades. It was not suddenly spreading in the 1980s, is was just being tested for and used for hysteria.
HIV was not widely spreading in the 1980s, it was only being detected, found in the 1980s.

And if you had encountered in, say in the 1950s, then in the 1980s you were given a death warrant, aka AZT.

Ah ok. Anyway, yes, I already knew that AZT was a death sentence. One friend of mine died gruesomely from it, back in 2000. I've also noticed though, the frequent attempts of Fauci and other bioterrorists over the years to use HIV as a vector for things like the flu shot, so I think at the very least, they think it's a bioweapon. Now maybe they modified the virus from its natural form, but IDK, this would take a lot of looking into.

At the moment I'm worried about the SARS, the CAPS, I think that it's a mix of essential human enzymes and any strong immune response could give you one or another autoimmune disease, so I'm trying to combat it with antivirals.

The one thing that is for sure is that we need a life without these fuckers in it, and that means the entirety of the beast that backs them. I'm working on that, and when we get there, we'll worry about what to do with them

I looked into the AIDS hoax back when it was starting to gear up.
Books you may wish to peruse at leisure: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS (David Brock), Reinventing the AIDS Virus (Dr. Peter Duesberg), Deadly Deception (Dr. Robert Willner). Most of these have been banned.

I have not done the same with covid. But I have not seen you post anything about it which seems out of line.
But I don't equate the 2, other than now regarding Fauci.

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Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:24 PM

DREAMTROVE



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I looked into the AIDS hoax back when it was starting to gear up.
Books you may wish to peruse at leisure: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS (David Brock), Reinventing the AIDS Virus (Dr. Peter Duesberg), Deadly Deception (Dr. Robert Willner). Most of these have been banned.

I have not done the same with covid. But I have not seen you post anything about it which seems out of line.
But I don't equate the 2, other than now regarding Fauci.


Fauci is now a three plague fraud. He was Captain AIDS, and then he was Captain FLU before being Captain Covid. The Flu shot and all the subsequent "superflues" were also him. H1N1 is a Fauci trademark. The idea that this man is a hero fighting the plagues of the world just defies any actual looking into either the science or the business end of anything he does. Fauci as fraudulent bioterrorist does fit the bill.

Here's another bothersome thing. Bill and Ted. Bill Gates is not a person with any medical training. His only connection to the medical world is that his dad was a director of planned parenthood.

if death cult monarchy is a thing, we're good, otherwise, wtf is a computer company exec who is also known for blatant fraud and code stealing, whose company already released computer viruses to drum up business (profItable model, so he scaled it up?) WTF is he doing being allowed to run world vaccination programs, when he has no medical or scientific background whatsoever.


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Wednesday, August 25, 2021 10:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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if death cult monarchy is a thing, we're good, otherwise, wtf is a computer company exec who is also known for blatant fraud and code stealing, whose company already released computer viruses to drum up business (profItable model, so he scaled it up?) WTF is he doing being allowed to run world vaccination programs, when he has no medical or scientific background whatsoever.



You already answered your question in the paragraph.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Thursday, August 26, 2021 4:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Here's another bothersome thing. Bill and Ted. Bill Gates is not a person with any medical training. His only connection to the medical world is that his dad was a director of planned parenthood.

if death cult monarchy is a thing, we're good, otherwise, wtf is a computer company exec who is also known for blatant fraud and code stealing, whose company already released computer viruses to drum up business (profItable model, so he scaled it up?) WTF is he doing being allowed to run world vaccination programs, when he has no medical or scientific background whatsoever.

When he was an exec, I don't think his company made any computers. Now he is retired, I think.
His first few decades were developing the business model of never, ever sell anything that works - the software version of Planned Obsolescence - all of his software was defective upon release, otherwise he would not allow it's release.
Having the mindset to only produce defective product can certainly translate to killing folk when applied to the medical field - but that was the whole point of Planned Parenthood, killing humans.


The answer is: money. Despite his well-known evil and greed, it comes down to money.

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Thursday, August 26, 2021 5:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


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The answer is: money. Despite his well-known evil and greed, it comes down to money.



I think that money is the easiest answer to sell people on, but I don't think it's the why. I think economy full of people is better for making money. I think the answer is satanic cult.

"I win if everyone else fails" is the first satanic logical fallacy
"there's limited resources on the earth" is second
"my children will succeed more if I kill everyone else" is the conclusion that leads them to join the sabbateans

The sabbateans are just lunatics following scripture because they think if they threaten to destroy the world it will bring them their messiah and antichrist.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Hey! When your populace is not stupid enough to fall for your trix, try an old trick from AIDS hysteria.
Just change the name of the vax.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/goodbye-pfizer-hello-comirnaty-top-162729966
.html




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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I looked into the AIDS hoax back when it was starting to gear up.
Books you may wish to peruse at leisure: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS (David Brock), Reinventing the AIDS Virus (Dr. Peter Duesberg), Deadly Deception (Dr. Robert Willner). Most of these have been banned.

I have not done the same with covid. But I have not seen you post anything about it which seems out of line.
But I don't equate the 2, other than now regarding Fauci.


Fauci is now a three plague fraud. He was Captain AIDS, and then he was Captain FLU before being Captain Covid. The Flu shot and all the subsequent "superflues" were also him. H1N1 is a Fauci trademark. The idea that this man is a hero fighting the plagues of the world just defies any actual looking into either the science or the business end of anything he does. Fauci as fraudulent bioterrorist does fit the bill.

Here's another bothersome thing. Bill and Ted. Bill Gates is not a person with any medical training. His only connection to the medical world is that his dad was a director of planned parenthood.

if death cult monarchy is a thing, we're good, otherwise, wtf is a computer company exec who is also known for blatant fraud and code stealing, whose company already released computer viruses to drum up business (profItable model, so he scaled it up?) WTF is he doing being allowed to run world vaccination programs, when he has no medical or scientific background whatsoever.

DT, another thing which may have been confusing is the naming of HIV.

in 1983, Luc Montagnier discovered LAV. He hypothesized that it might cause the fictional disease AIDS. And within 9 months, he had prven that it could not cause AIDS.
In 1984, Gallo/Fauci "discovered" HTLV-III.
Then, in Cal, ARV was discovered.

In 1986, the scientific community needed to unite to grab as much fundage from the4 government which was being thrown at the fictitious AIDS. They knew that all 3 of these were the same, but unfortunately they had already been proven to not cause AIDS.
So their sales pitch needed to do another Sigs/kiki move and start with the conclusion, and backstop the lies to support the fictitious conclusion.
So they renamed it Human IMMUNODEFICIENCY Virus, in order to make it confused with Acquired IMMUNE DEFICIENCY Syndrome, and thereby imply that it was somehow related.

So their rebranding of the name may be another thing which was confusing. As it was intended to be.

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Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



There are actually 2 viruses which were originally theorized to cause AIDS - the HTLV family, and what eventually became known as HIV.


Human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 unveiled in a 1980 paper published by Gallo.
https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/diseases/9645/human-t-cell-leukemia-
virus-type-1

https://www.pnas.org/content/112/51/15525

When HIV was discovered by 3 separate groups, they gave it 3 separate names: Gallo called it HTLV-III (because it was first thought to be part of the HTLV family), Dr. Luc Montagnier called it LAV, and Dr. Jay Levy of UCSF called it ARV. In 1987 the global community standardized on HIV as the name, especially after it became evident it wasn't part of the HTLV family.
https://history.nih.gov/display/history/Discovery+of+HIV

Calling something by different names doesn't make it a different thing. Or, 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'.


And as DT knows, this human multitude of lymphocyte infecting viruses isn't unique. There are even similar divisions within the cat viruses. There's FELV, the cat-equivalent of HTLV, and FIV the cat-equivalent of HIV.

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