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January 6th Commission investigating coup attempt. Hey Jack, I Was Right

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Wednesday, December 15, 2021 7:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Demented Libtards in a rush to falsify evidence for the Committee on the Fake Insurrection.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64720


Also, we now all know that Trump actually won WI, AZ, and GA - meaning he won the honest version of the Electoral College, if not the Fraudulent 2020 version.

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Thursday, December 16, 2021 8:33 AM

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Trump blames V.P. Mike Pence for his loss in 2020. If Pence had left the Capitol without certifying the votes by the Electoral College, then the states get to pick the President in a Contingent Election, where each state only gets one vote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election

Pence almost left the Capitol, but then changed his mind because leaving would be cowardly. Donald Trump posted a tweet attacking his own vice president for lacking “the courage” to overturn the election for him - enraging his Jan. 6 mob even further - just minutes after learning that Mike Pence had been removed from the Senate chamber for his own safety.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-pence-tweet-capitol-riot-impeachm
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Since Republicans control more states, Trump wins in a Contingent Election, but Pence did not leave the Capitol, which is why Trump is still blaming Pence for Trump's loss. It is no more complicated than the plot of Knives Out (2019).

Trump says Pence has been 'mortally wounded' within GOP (Watch on YouTube)



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Thursday, December 16, 2021 4:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND:
bullshit and propaganda

fify


The protesters were absolutely not armed. It's in the report to Congress. If they were there to carry out a coup, or even for violence, you'd THINK (assuming, of course, YOU can think!) they'd have brought a LITTLE bit more of something than the sticks they used to hold up their signs.


So what happened?

The situation spiraled out of control b/c the police were completely undermanned and unequipped. They couldn't have controlled a small-sized riot. They couldn't even manage simple crowd control. The sheer force of bodies overwhelmed them.

Just because the police failed, doesn't mean the protesters were there to do harm. By their complete lack of any weapons, obviously they weren't.


And that's a fact nobody has explained away - or even mentioned - in the shitstorm of propaganda.

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Thursday, December 16, 2021 7:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It was fucking theater and it was allowed to happen.

On any other given day, had any of those dumb fucks tried getting into those buildings they'd have been thrown right out on their asses if they were lucky, and hauled away in cuffs otherwise.

Anybody who believes that the events that took place on January 6th were either a coup or an insurrection is just letting you know in big bright letters that they are a mindless cultist.

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Friday, December 17, 2021 12:34 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'm a fan of sci-fi and time travel. So the key part of this fantasy, for me, is where this insurrection happened an hour and a half before Trump supposedly encouraged the activity. So either all these Libtards went forward in time to get the instructions from Trump, before falling back in time to perpetrate - or else Trump traveled back in time to encourage this group before returning to our regularly scheduled timeline.

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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:30 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm a fan of sci-fi and time travel. So the key part of this fantasy, for me, is where this insurrection happened an hour and a half before Trump supposedly encouraged the activity. So either all these Libtards went forward in time to get the instructions from Trump, before falling back in time to perpetrate - or else Trump traveled back in time to encourage this group before returning to our regularly scheduled timeline.



You should lay off the pills rappy

T


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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:33 PM

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Jim Jordan Is Afraid Of The Jan. 6 Select Committee






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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:39 PM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND:
bullshit and propaganda

fify

The protesters were absolutely not armed. It's in the report to Congress. If they were there to carry out a coup, or even for violence, you'd THINK (assuming, of course, YOU can think!) they'd have brought a LITTLE bit more of something than the sticks they used to hold up their signs.

So what happened?





T





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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:41 PM

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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:48 PM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The protesters were absolutely not armed. It's in the report to Congress. If they were there to carry out a coup, or even for violence, you'd THINK (assuming, of course, YOU can think!) they'd have brought a LITTLE bit more of something than the sticks they used to hold up their signs.




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Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say


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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:53 PM

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Ex-Army Generals Fear Insurrection or 'Civil War' in 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/army-generals-insurrection-civil-war-2024-don
ald-trump-january-6-1660842

Three retired U.S. Army generals have warned of insurrection or possibly even civil war if the results of the 2024 presidential election are not accepted by sections of the military.

Retired Major Generals Paul D. Eaton and Antonio M. Taguba joined retired Brigadier General Steven M. Anderson urged today's leaders to act to prevent such scenes, calling on today's leaders to "war-game" an attempted coup.

In an op-ed for The Washington Post published on Friday, the former military leaders said they were "increasingly concerned" about the "potential for lethal chaos inside our military, which would put all Americans at severe risk" in the aftermath of the election.

They warned of the potential for "total breakdown of the chain of command along partisan lines" and the risk of a "shadow government" led by a losing candidate who refuses to concede defeat, directly referencing former President Donald Trump.

"In short: We are chilled to our bones at the thought of a coup succeeding next time," they wrote.

And they outlined four preventative steps they argue should be taken:

1) First, the leaders of the Capitol riot should be held accountable. They called on the Department of Justice, the House of Representatives' Select Committee investigating January 6 and Congress to "show more urgency."

2) Second, the Pentagon "should immediately order" a soldier review on the Constitution and electoral integrity, and on the laws of war and how to deal with an illegal order. "No service member should say they didn't understand whom to take orders from during a worst-case scenario," they wrote.

3) The Army's actions should also involve finding and removing "potential mutineers" and stopping efforts to subvert the chain of command through propaganda.

4) Finally, the generals advised the Department of Defense to war-game a potential insurrection or attempted coup following the 2024 presidential election "to identify weak spots" and deal with them.

In explaining their concerns, the generals pointed to the fact that some veterans and active duty personnel were involved in the storming of the Capitol on January 6 and expressed concern that divisions in wider society will affect military personnel.

"The potential for a total breakdown of the chain of command along partisan lines - from the top of the chain to squad level - is significant should another insurrection occur," the generals wrote. "The idea of rogue units organizing among themselves to support the 'rightful' commander in chief cannot be dismissed."

"Imagine competing commanders in chief - a newly reelected Biden giving orders, versus Trump (or another Trumpian figure) issuing orders as the head of a shadow government," they went on. "Worse, imagine politicians at the state and federal levels illegally installing a losing candidate as president."

Trump has continued to maintain the 2020 presidential election suffered from serious voter fraud and other irregularities that cost him victory—claims repeatedly rejected by the courts and in post-election audits. Many of Trump's Republican allies have also pushed these unsubstantiated claims.

The generals warned that while U.S. service members take an oath to uphold the Constitution, in the case of a disputed election, loyalties would be split and some might choose to follow orders from the losing candidate who does not accept defeat.

"Under such a scenario, it is not outlandish to say a military breakdown could lead to civil war," they wrote. If such a situation were to arise, the generals warn the enemies of the U.S. could take advantage of it.

Nonetheless, the generals seemed hopeful that could be prevented if Congress and the military "take decisive action now."

https://www.newsweek.com/army-generals-insurrection-civil-war-2024-don
ald-trump-january-6-1660842

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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Gee...

Maybe somebody would take you seriously about the 6th if any of you making all the noise about it ever once called out the behavior of BLM and Antifa during the summer of 2020.



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Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:57 PM

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The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection

https://web.archive.org/web/20211218193450/https://www.washingtonpost.
com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/

By Paul D. Eaton, Antonio M. Taguba and Steven M. Anderson Dec. 17, 2021 at 5:05 p.m. EST

Paul D. Eaton is a retired U.S. Army major general and a senior adviser to VoteVets. Antonio M. Taguba is a retired Army major general, with 34 years of active duty service. Steven M. Anderson is a retired brigadier general who served in the U.S. Army for 31 years.

As we approach the first anniversary of the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, we — all of us former senior military officials — are increasingly concerned about the aftermath of the 2024 presidential election and the potential for lethal chaos inside our military, which would put all Americans at severe risk.

In short: We are chilled to our bones at the thought of a coup succeeding next time.

One of our military’s strengths is that it draws from our diverse population. It is a collection of individuals, all with different beliefs and backgrounds. But without constant maintenance, the potential for a military breakdown mirroring societal or political breakdown is very real.

The signs of potential turmoil in our armed forces are there. On Jan. 6, a disturbing number of veterans and active-duty members of the military took part in the attack on the Capitol. More than 1 in 10 of those charged in the attacks had a service record. A group of 124 retired military officials, under the name “Flag Officers 4 America,” released a letter echoing Donald Trump’s false attacks on the legitimacy of our elections.

Recently, and perhaps more worrying, Brig. Gen. Thomas Mancino, the commanding general of the Oklahoma National Guard, refused an order from President Biden mandating that all National Guard members be vaccinated against the coronavirus. Mancino claimed that while the Oklahoma Guard is not federally mobilized, his commander in chief is the Republican governor of the state, not the president.

The potential for a total breakdown of the chain of command along partisan lines — from the top of the chain to squad level — is significant should another insurrection occur. The idea of rogue units organizing among themselves to support the “rightful” commander in chief cannot be dismissed.
Early on Jan. 6, The Post's Kate Woodsome saw signs of violence hours before thousands of President Trump's loyalists besieged the Capitol. (Joy Yi, Kate Woodsome/The Washington Post)

Imagine competing commanders in chief — a newly reelected Biden giving orders, versus Trump (or another Trumpian figure) issuing orders as the head of a shadow government. Worse, imagine politicians at the state and federal levels illegally installing a losing candidate as president.

All service members take an oath to protect the U.S. Constitution. But in a contested election, with loyalties split, some might follow orders from the rightful commander in chief, while others might follow the Trumpian loser. Arms might not be secured depending on who was overseeing them. Under such a scenario, it is not outlandish to say a military breakdown could lead to civil war.

In this context, with our military hobbled and divided, U.S. security would be crippled. Any one of our enemies could take advantage by launching an all-out assault on our assets or our allies.

The lack of military preparedness for the aftermath of the 2020 election was striking and worrying. Trump’s acting defense secretary, Christopher C. Miller, testified that he deliberately withheld military protection of the Capitol before Jan. 6. Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reportedly scrambled to ensure the nation’s nuclear defense chains were secure from illegal orders. It is evident the whole of our military was caught off-guard.

With the country still as divided as ever, we must take steps to prepare for the worst.

First, everything must be done to prevent another insurrection. Not a single leader who inspired it has been held to account. Our elected officials and those who enforce the law — including the Justice Department, the House select committee and the whole of Congress — must show more urgency.

But the military cannot wait for elected officials to act. The Pentagon should immediately order a civics review for all members — uniformed and civilian — on the Constitution and electoral integrity. There must also be a review of the laws of war and how to identify and deal with illegal orders. And it must reinforce “unity of command” to make perfectly clear to every member of the Defense Department whom they answer to. No service member should say they didn’t understand whom to take orders from during a worst-case scenario.

In addition, all military branches must undertake more intensive intelligence work at all installations. The goal should be to identify, isolate and remove potential mutineers; guard against efforts by propagandists who use misinformation to subvert the chain of command; and understand how that and other misinformation spreads across the ranks after it is introduced by propagandists.

Finally, the Defense Department should war-game the next potential post-election insurrection or coup attempt to identify weak spots. It must then conduct a top-down debrief of its findings and begin putting in place safeguards to prevent breakdowns not just in the military, but also in any agency that works hand in hand with the military.

The military and lawmakers have been gifted hindsight to prevent another insurrection from happening in 2024 — but they will succeed only if they take decisive action now.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211218193450/https://www.washingtonpost.
com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/


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Saturday, December 18, 2021 3:08 PM

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Mitch McConnell Changes His Tune On The Jan. 6 Committee






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Saturday, December 18, 2021 3:09 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gee...

Maybe somebody would take you seriously about the 6th if any of you making all the noise about it ever once called out the behavior of BLM and Antifa during the summer of 2020.
All, without exception, of the people I know who voted for Trump keep acting like those local news stories were of any importance to the nation. The stories were local and unimportant, unless you are a Trump voter or a frighten child who has nightmares of BLM and Antifa burning down their playhouses. If you Trump voters were not such a bunch of cowards with personality problems, you would never act the way you constantly do. Grow a spine, you chickenhearted Trump voters. Also, you loony Trump voters ought to make an appointment with a psychologist to fix your mental issues.

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Sunday, December 19, 2021 10:24 AM

THG


Jim Acosta Scolds Fox News for Capitol Riot Texts: ‘You’ve Been Busted on Your Bulls—’

CNN’s Jim Acosta sent a simple but snide message to Fox News hosts Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Brian Kilmeade for their texts to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows during the Jan. 6 Capitol riots: “Guys, you’ve been busted on your bull—.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jim-acosta-scolds-fox-news-for
-capitol-riot-texts-you-ve-been-busted-on-your-bulls/ar-AARXfOu?ocid=msedgntp


Yep, they are all bullshit. Nothing but commie traitors.

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Sunday, December 19, 2021 10:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gee...

Maybe somebody would take you seriously about the 6th if any of you making all the noise about it ever once called out the behavior of BLM and Antifa during the summer of 2020.
All, without exception, of the people I know who voted for Trump keep acting like those local news stories were of any importance to the nation. The stories were local and unimportant, unless you are a Trump voter or a frighten child who has nightmares of BLM and Antifa burning down their playhouses. If you Trump voters were not such a bunch of cowards with personality problems, you would never act the way you constantly do. Grow a spine, you chickenhearted Trump voters. Also, you loony Trump voters ought to make an appointment with a psychologist to fix your mental issues.


See Ted?

This is why Democrats are going to lose an entire generation of voters.

You need to cut the Second's out of your party before it becomes completely irrelevant.

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Sunday, December 19, 2021 10:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Jim Acosta Scolds Fox News for Capitol Riot Texts: ‘You’ve Been Busted on Your Bulls—’

CNN’s Jim Acosta sent a simple but snide message to Fox News hosts Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Brian Kilmeade for their texts to former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows during the Jan. 6 Capitol riots: “Guys, you’ve been busted on your bull—.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jim-acosta-scolds-fox-news-for
-capitol-riot-texts-you-ve-been-busted-on-your-bulls/ar-AARXfOu?ocid=msedgntp


Yep, they are all bullshit.

T



lol... wow.

"Jim Acosta says"...

Nobody cares what an idiot has to say.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 6:05 AM

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US ‘closer to civil war’ than most would like to believe, new book says

Academic and member of CIA advisory panel says analysis applied to other countries shows US has ‘entered very dangerous territory’

The CIA actually has a taskforce designed to try to predict where and when political instability and conflict is likely to break out around the world. It’s just not legally allowed to look at the US. That means the CIA is blind to the risk factors that are rapidly emerging here.

But a book, How Civil Wars Start, in which those risk factors in the US are looked at using the CIA's method will be published in January. https://www.amazon.com/How-Civil-Wars-Start-Stop/dp/0593137787/

The US has fought a civil war, from 1861 to 1865, against states which seceded in an attempt to maintain slavery. Estimates of the death toll vary. The American Battlefield Trust puts it at 620,000 and says: “Taken as a percentage of today’s population, the toll would have risen as high as 6 million souls.”

The secessionists in 1861 accepted Lincoln’s election as fair and legitimate. The current situation is the opposite. Trump’s questioning of the election, which was at first rejected by Republican leaders after the attack on the Capitol, has led to a genuine crisis of legitimacy.

With Republicans’ hold on the levers of power while in the electoral minority a contributing factor, this crisis metastasizes, throughout the system over time, so that it’s possible any and all close elections will be claimed by Republicans to be false and fraudulent.

If rightwing militia groups were to seek to mimic the secessionists of the 1860s and attempt to seize federal forts and offices by force it would be over quickly given a very strong and firm sense at the top of the US military of its constitutional, non-political role.

But given the proliferation of guns, there could be any number of seemingly random acts of violence that come from organized militias, which are really vigilantes and with partisan agendas.

The real nightmare would be that kind of low-intensity conflict.

More at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/us-closer-to-civil-war
-new-book-barbara-walter-trump-capitol-attack

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Monday, December 20, 2021 6:37 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gee...

Maybe somebody would take you seriously about the 6th if any of you making all the noise about it ever once called out the behavior of BLM and Antifa during the summer of 2020.
All, without exception, of the people I know who voted for Trump keep acting like those local news stories were of any importance to the nation. The stories were local and unimportant, unless you are a Trump voter or a frighten child who has nightmares of BLM and Antifa burning down their playhouses. If you Trump voters were not such a bunch of cowards with personality problems, you would never act the way you constantly do. Grow a spine, you chickenhearted Trump voters. Also, you loony Trump voters ought to make an appointment with a psychologist to fix your mental issues.


See Ted?

This is why Democrats are going to lose an entire generation of voters.

You need to cut the Second's out of your party before it becomes completely irrelevant.
America has a problem with people who get anxious about news stories that have absolutely no effect on their lives. Those kind of anxious and chicken-hearted people tend to vote for Trump. People who have chicken hearts, who are cowardly, who are prone to panic, are people who have never done well in America. This country runs very well for brave people. But for chickens? People who are too cowardly to quickly seek better jobs? People who won't bravely move to a new place with better opportunity? America has never treated those kind of cowardly people very well and those people resent getting their scared asses kicked by American businesses/bosses and those people have voted for Trump. Sorry to tell Trump voters and 6ix, but Trump is not gonna be able to fix what is wrong with you.

But why won't Trump fix you? Because he is one of those American businessmen and bosses who have been kicking your ass all your life. Trump knows exactly what you want, and will tell you he will give it to you, but he won't because he is a businessman. It is not to his advantage, once he is President, to give 6ix what he wants. And all the Republicans in Congress don't want to give it to you, either. If Trump voters weren't as stupid as chickens, they would have figured this out a long time ago, but I don't expect them to ever learn, no matter what happens. I don't expect them to ever act bravely around their bosses at work, either. Fear and trembling made them Trump voters. And I certainly don't expect them to remain sane. The news will always scare Trump voters into insanity.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, December 20, 2021 7:17 AM

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“When one of the world’s leading scholars of civil war tells us that the United States stands at the brink of violent conflict, we should pay attention.”—Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, authors of How Democracies Die

How Civil Wars Start: And How to Stop Them by Barbara F. Walter
https://www.amazon.com/How-Civil-Wars-Start-Stop/dp/0593137787/

chapter 1: The Danger of Anocracy 3
chapter 2: The Rise of Factions 28
chapter 3: The Dark Consequences of Losing Status 58
chapter 4: When Hope Dies 78
chapter 5: The Accelerant 102
chapter 6: How Close Are We? 129
chapter 7: What a War Would Look Like 161
chapter 8: Preventing a Civil War 194

From Chapter 1:

U.S. soldiers found the fearsome dictator hiding in an eight-foot-deep hole near his hometown of Tikrit. He looked dirty and dazed. With Americans in charge, most Iraqis believed that their country would be reborn and that they would experience the freedom and opportunities available in Western countries. Families dreamed of experiencing true democracy. The military, and perhaps the judiciary, would be reformed. Corruption would end. Wealth, including oil profits, would be distributed more equally. Noor and her family were excited for independent newspapers and satellite TV. “We thought we would breathe freedom, we would become like Europe,” said Najm al-Jabouri, a former general in Saddams army. They were wrong.

When Saddam Hussein was captured, researchers who study democratization didn’t celebrate. We knew that democratization, especially rapid democratization in a deeply divided country, could be highly destabilizing. In fact, the more radical and rapid the change, the more destabilizing it was likely to be. The United States and the United Kingdom thought they were delivering freedom to a welcoming population. Instead, they were about to deliver the perfect conditions for civil war.

Iraq was a country plagued by political rivalries, both ethnic and religious. The Kurds, a large ethnic minority in the north, had long fought Saddam for autonomy; they wanted to be left alone to rule themselves. The Shia, who made up more than 60 percent of Iraq’s population, resented being ruled by Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, and his mostly Sunni Baath Party. Over decades, Saddam had been able to consolidate power for his minority group by stacking government positions with Sunnis.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 10:41 AM

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The news will always scare Trump voters into insanity.


I'm not the one who's submitted to an untested jab 3 times and still going around wearing my mask everywhere.

Check yourself, boy.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:23 AM

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Roger Stone throws Steve Bannon under the bus with accusation he directed Capitol "breach"

According to a report from the Daily Beast's Zachary Petrizzo, former Donald Trump associate Roger Stone took to his Telegram account on Sunday morning to blame former White House adviser Steve Bannon of ordering the attack on the Capitol building on Jan 6th, reminiscent of the way he used to do "crazy things" in order to "curry favor" with the former president.

Writing that Stone appeared to be throwing Bannon "under the bus," Petrizzo reported the conservative gadfly wrote, "It is highly likely that [Steve] Bannon really gave the order to breach the capital [sic] and maneuvered patriots into dangerous positions."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/roger-stone-throws-steve-banno
n-under-the-bus-with-accusation-he-directed-capitol-breach/ar-AARYO8n?ocid=msedgntp


Let's see where this goes. The balls in Bannons' court.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The news will always scare Trump voters into insanity.


I'm not the one who's submitted to an untested jab 3 times and still going around wearing my mask everywhere.

Check yourself, boy.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
You are claiming being brave equals being unvaccinated. You are insane, 6ix.
And you are scared of vaccination. You have said you're scared of what an "untested" vax might do to you in five years.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:41 AM

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T


The Walls Are Closing In On Donald Trump






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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
T


The Walls Are Closing In On Donald Trump
This is more like an African elephant hunt. Trump is the elephant, the hunters are lawyers, but these lawyers don't have guns. All they have are them making the sound of guns going Bang! Bang! The elephant is becoming enraged and maybe will trample the lawyers. But the lawyers are not dangerous to the elephant until the lawyers borrow an elephant gun from the Dept of Justice, carefully aim and fire at the elephant. Even the elephant knows these lawyers are unarmed.

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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:55 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
You are claiming being brave equals being unvaccinated.


No. I'm claiming that not getting this particular untested vaccination because you were terrorized into getting it is the low bar for having a functioning brain. Bravery has nothing to do with it.

Quote:
You are insane, 6ix.


You are not qualified to make such a statement, idiot.

Quote:
And you are scared of vaccination. You have said you're scared of what an "untested" vax might do to you in five years.


Apprehension and distrust are not signs of fear and would only be conflated by low-IQ ideologues, such as yourself.

I don't fear our government. I just don't trust our government. I don't trust the pharmaceutical companies. I don't trust our Media or our "experts" who have been bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies.

I have nothing to fear. I did not get the jab, and I won't be forced into getting the jab.

We'll see what happens to you now that you have.

Good luck, guinea pig.

Keep us posted.



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Monday, December 20, 2021 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good luck, guinea pig.

Keep us posted.
6ix, if you weren't crazy you could see you are full of bullshit. But then again, if you weren't crazy you'd see Trump is made of bullshit.

Bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

On Bullshit by Harry Frankfurt, Princeton University
One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern, or attracted much sustained inquiry. In consequence, we have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves. And we lack a conscientiously developed appreciation of what it means to us. In other words, we have no theory. I propose to begin the development of a theoretical understanding of bullshit, mainly by providing some tentative and exploratory philosophical analysis.

More at http://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.p
df

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Monday, December 20, 2021 1:13 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
T


The Walls Are Closing In On Donald Trump
This is more like an African elephant hunt. Trump is the elephant, the hunters are lawyers, but these lawyers don't have guns. All they have are them making the sound of guns going Bang! Bang! The elephant is becoming enraged and maybe will trample the lawyers. But the lawyers are not dangerous to the elephant until the lawyers borrow an elephant gun from the Dept of Justice, carefully aim and fire at the elephant. Even the elephant knows these lawyers are unarmed.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Wrong...

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Monday, December 20, 2021 1:14 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Wrong...

T
I am making a prediction: Trump is both guilty as hell and will NOT be punished because Biden's Justice Dept. will fail to do the job. Take Trump to court? Maybe. Successfully punish him? Not gonna happen, despite the crying need that Trump be in jail. Trump didn't pay taxes for 20 years and he won't be paying because the Justice Dept. won't stomp his ass. The Mueller investigation found that Trump obstructed the investigation but the Justice Dept. won't stomp his fat ass on that, either. It is symmetry with Trump saying Lock her up, but his Justice Dept. didn't do a damn thing to Hillary. You can go all the way back to Vice President Aaron Burr murdering Alexander Hamilton and Burr committing treason in New Orleans. The Justice Dept. wasn't worth a damn even way back then and the Dept. hasn't gotten any better at convicting big-shots. Even Nixon escaped prosecution.

Aaron Burr’s trial and the Constitution’s treason clause
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-great-trial-that-tested-the-co
nstitutions-treason-clause

Worse Than Watergate: Nixon’s Greatest Treachery
Even though President Johnson knew full well what was going on, the decision was made to sit on the story. Partly because the Democrats believed they’d win the election anyway, and partly because revealing the truth would have also exposed the wiretapping and surveillance between the rival parties – the blow to the public psyche would have been too much to bear.
https://www.history.co.uk/article/worse-than-watergate-nixon%25E2%2580
%2599s-greatest-treachery

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Monday, December 20, 2021 7:47 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us
-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Exclusive:
Capitol rioter who threw fire extinguisher at police on Jan. 6 gets longest sentence yet - FIVE YEARS! Because Trump didn't personally throw the fire extinguisher, Trump is not gonna get charged, but Trump did tell the rioter to throw a tantrum in the Capitol.

In a letter to the judge, Florida man Robert Palmer, 54, said he felt betrayed by Trump and his allies. “Trump supporters were lied to by those at the time who had great power,” wrote Palmer, who told the judge Friday he was “really, really ashamed of what I did.”

Apparently, Trump cannot be charged with a crime just because Trump organized a rally that the fire extinguisher throwing rioter attended, and Trump told the rioter to 'Stop The Steal', and Trump did not give orders to the National Guard to stop the rioter, and Trump would still be President if the rioter had prevented V.P. Mike Pence from certifying the 2020 election.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/12/17/22843349/capitol-attack-j
anuary-6-electoral-college-vote-biden-president-trump-florida-man-5-year-sentence

Timeline of the 2021 United States Capitol attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2021_United_States_Capit
ol_attack#Wednesday,_January_6,_2021

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Monday, December 20, 2021 8:36 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs
Quote:
baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-v
ariety-of-weapons/
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-arme
d-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

Quote:
“How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.
“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.
“I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but, to my knowledge, none,” she added.
htt ps:// www.air.tv/watch?v=AUFjCGm_RgyVaDXmVKG3Hg

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Monday, December 20, 2021 8:41 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



How many coups take place without a plan, without tanks, PRGs, assault rifles, or even handguns? How many coups take place with the equivalent of staves, pitchforks, flambeaux, and cow poop?




Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us
-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/]



Quote:
stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs
Quote:
baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-v
ariety-of-weapons/
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-arme
d-here-are-the-weapons-prosecutors-say-they-used

Quote:
“How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.
“To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.
“I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but, to my knowledge, none,” she added.
htt ps:// www.air.tv/watch?v=AUFjCGm_RgyVaDXmVKG3Hg

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

How many coups take place without a plan, without tanks, PRGs, assault rifles, or even handguns? How many coups take place with the equivalent of staves, pitchforks, flambeaux, and cow poop?
What TV show gave you these extravagantly violent ideas of how power is taken? Did you know that only Hitler, as head of state, could dismiss Hitler as head of the government? Hitler used the written rules in 1934 to make himself dictator for life by assigning to himself two government positions: President and Chancellor. The rules did not say the same person can't hold both offices. Then Hitler in one position decided he would never fire Hitler in the other position. It was perfectly legal and non-violent. Trump used the rules to make himself President for Life, except V.P. Mike Pence didn't follow the rules and made Biden the President. Ever since, Trump has complained often and bitterly that Pence betrayed him by not following the rules. If only the rules had allowed Trump to be both President and Vice-President, Trump would still be President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power#Chancello
r_to_dictator

Trump: Pence has been 'mortally wounded' within GOP



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Monday, December 20, 2021 11:13 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Q: What was the difference between Hitler and GWB?
A: Hitler was elected.


This "coup" is puffed-up nonsense, like RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and "quid pro quo".

The fact that you keep whipping this shit into froth is just another example your essential dishonesty.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
What TV show gave you these extravagantly violent ideas of how power is taken?
I'm pretty sure I got my ideas about how violent coups are by watching news stories about coups in other countries.



BTW did you know that Hitler had henchmen and allies in - among other places - the German Secret Police - who murdered his political opponents and potential rivals even before he was a significant blip in the German political radar? That was from some PBS history show I watched. "In Germany, Nazi leader Adolf Hitler orders a bloody purge of his own political party, assassinating hundreds of Nazis whom he believed had the potential to become political enemies in the future ..." (see 'Night of the Long Knives')

Gotta watch out for those wildly inaccurate news stories of violent coups in other countries and bloody history shows about how power is taken.


/snicker

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Snicker...

T


'Donald Trump is increasingly agitated by the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack'






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tick tock

T


Rep. Swalwell: Jan. 6 Committee Is 'Piecing It All Together'






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An acting serving member of Congress. I hear this hasn't happened before.

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T


New Reporting Outs the Betrayers of Our Democracy

New York Times Justice Department reporter Katie Benner, former assistant U.S. Attorney Dan Goldman, and former Republican Congressman David Jolly discuss the new reporting in the New York Times on the six GOP loyalists in Congress that fought to keep Trump in power.






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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Wrong...

T
I am making a prediction: Trump is both guilty as hell and will NOT be punished because Biden's Justice Dept. will fail to do the job. Take Trump to court? Maybe. Successfully punish him? Not gonna happen, despite the crying need that Trump be in jail.



I get that SECOND. I too am concerned the justice department is taking a back seat and not going after Trump the way I think they should. I hope they do but I can’t be sure. Garland seems a bit meek to me. I hope I’m wrong. I feel he may be looking towards the future and ramifications of charging Trump rather than at his guilt.

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Forbes' Randall Lane was subpoenaed by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. to appear before the grand jury investigating Donald Trump over a 2015 cover story.






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T


They all knew. That's why they're lying.






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Three Hours Of U.S. Capitol Surveillance Video at the Tunnel from Jan. 6, 2021.



Biden Signs Bill Letting Capitol Police Chief Call In National Guard

The president also has authority to call in the National Guard, but troops did not arrive at the Capitol until hours after then President Donald Trump's supporters breached the building. It remains unclear exactly what caused the delay, though Trump claimed he "immediately" ordered the National Guard to "expel the intruders" on January 6.

Under existing policy, the Capitol Police chief was required to seek approval from a four-member board that oversees the police force to get National Guard assistance.

A June report on the January 6 attack found security failures “clearly demonstrated the need for the Chief of the U.S. Capitol Police to have more unilateral flexibility to quickly request assistance in an emergency.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/12/22/biden-signs-bi
ll-letting-capitol-police-chief-call-in-national-guard/

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Go Joe...

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Jim Jordan 'Very Scared' as 1/6 Committee Seeks Info on Trump Calls, Fellow Lawmaker Says

The select committee investigating the Capitol riot sent a letter to Jordan on Wednesday requesting that he voluntarily discuss his communication with Trump. In the letter, Representative Bennie Thompson, chairman of the committee, said the committee is aware of at least one and "possible multiple" communications Jordan had with Trump on January 6.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jim-jordan-very-scared-as-1-6-
committee-seeks-info-on-trump-calls-fellow-lawmaker-says/ar-AAS7OjE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531


tick tock

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Originally posted by THG:

Go Joe...

T
Yes Joe*, please, just ... go.

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Jim Jordan 'Very Scared' as 1/6 Committee Seeks Info on Trump Calls, Fellow Lawmaker Says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jim-jordan-very-scared-as-1-6-
committee-seeks-info-on-trump-calls-fellow-lawmaker-says/ar-AAS7OjE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
T


Quote:
Representative Madeleine Dean, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, told Joy Reid on Thursday that she believes Jordan is "running very, very scared."
A democrat* fantasizes about reading a republican's mind, and that fantasy is headlined as fact by the m$m. And that propaganda is regurgitated by our own propagandist here, as if it was meaningful.
Quote:
Jordan also accused the committee of misleading the American public by omitting information about a text message he sent to former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.
Quote:
The message, originally attributed to an unnamed lawmaker ...
Quote:
It wasn't Jordan's own words, either, but a message he forwarded.
That was the committee's strike against the facts - it reported a biased, incomplete story that didn't contain all the facts, but only a slanted portion, by attributing the message to Jordan as the originator, instead of indicating it was authored by someone else.
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... said: "On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all."
Quote:
The full message, however, contained a legal argument from former Department of Defense Inspector General Joseph Schmitz.
And that's another strike against the facts by the 'select' committee stacked with democrats*, that failed to indicate this was a legal opinion by a third party, not a personal preference of Jordan.



It's clear that the 'select' committee plays politics with the facts. I'd say Jim Jordan has ample reason to be wary of dealing with that 'select' committee heavily stacked with democrats'.

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