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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:42 PM

JO753

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Trump wuznt CEO. Putin wuz.

And thats not the way it works.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:53 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Trump wuznt CEO. Putin wuz.

And thats not the way it works.

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We come back to ... No evidens.

Where's the EVIDENS that can support that conclusion? Bc so far, all you've posted is vaporware.

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 3:58 PM

1KIKI

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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JO, I'm always curious about your wild lapses in logic. Here you demonstrate the classic - the sacred rules are for them. But they're not for me, because I have my 'reasons' (sotto voce but they're not allowed to have theirs).

So, can you tell me this: does your illogic cause you even a minor speed bump when you run over it? Or does encountering it drive you even further into an unthinking embrace of bias and illogic?

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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:19 PM

JO753

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'fell rite into that wun', 'No evidens', 'bad lojik' bla bla bla.

Maybe you gize don realize you got checkmated agen?

Herez more Maddow, dishing out the nothingburger you and the Fox eko chamber haz no taste for.



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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:06 PM

SIGNYM

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Just so you know, UAE isn't Russia, no matter HOW you try and move the letters around!



JO, what's your point?

Do you have one?



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Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



So, when you say that Biden* is Jack's president because
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Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.
but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.



Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 2:42 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.

Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?



If the rulez were being enforsed, he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.

Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident. Trump enabled that situation, breaking hiz oath uv offis befor he even took it and continued for hiz entire term. Then he topped it off with an attempted self coo.

He failed to faithfully execute the dutyz uv the offis frum legal and practical perspectivz.

Az much az Trump's Chumps worship him, he wuz never anybody'z Prezident and he never acted like an American Prezident. He wuz alwayz just a cult leader / mob boss. He still iz!

Dig up Lincoln, reanimate him with blak majik, a zombie virus, or advanst clone tek and put him in charj uv reviewing the case.

Going by the lawz uv hiz time, He woud not only hav Trump and hiz entire administration executed, he woud disband the party he started az well az execute most uv the R Congressmen & Senatorz.

Treazon woud be the charj.

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 3:29 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

1KIKI:but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.

Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?

JO: If the rulez were being enforsed, he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.

Baloney

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Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident. Trump enabled that situation,
More baloney.

You have him tried and executed in your mind, on allegations that have already been investigated. And still, NO EVIDENS.

JO, you have this idee fixe that can't be shaken no matter HOW MUCH evidence is against, and how little evidence in favor. Please, engage the intelligence that I know is in there, and shake your unshakeable belief. It's become a religion to you.

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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If the rulez were being enforsed he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.
Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html
But Hillary Clinton campaign was given a heads-up (by Comey) about foreign money and attempted influence and the incident wasn't allowed (by Comey) to be investigated. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/yes-foreign-actor-did-try-int
erfere-hillary-clintons-campaign-167946
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Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident.
I have no idea what this means.
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Trump enabled that situation, breaking hiz oath uv offis befor he even took it and continued for hiz entire term.
I still have no idea what you mean, but I gather you're complaining that though Trump didn't do anything unconstitutional, you dislike what he did.
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Then he topped it off with an attempted self coo.
You call a protest, where NOBODY brought guns or bombs, a coup?

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He failed to faithfully execute the dutyz uv the offis frum legal and practical perspectivz.
Trump failed in his Presidential duties by ... trying to secure the borders? Trying to claw back some US industry from China (or at least make those goods come with a penalty)? Not constantly fear-mongering over RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! ? What SPECIFICALLY is your complaint?
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Az much az Trump's Chumps worship him, he wuz never anybody'z Prezident and he never acted like an American Prezident.
Trump was most definitely the President of the entire USA. The Constitution - the law of the land, the thing you profess to believe in, and criticize Trump for failing - says that he was.
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He wuz alwayz just a cult leader / mob boss. He still iz!
But whatever else you call him, he was President.
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Dig up Lincoln, reanimate him with blak majik, a zombie virus, or advanst clone tek and put him in charj uv reviewing the case.

Going by the lawz uv hiz time, He woud not only hav Trump and hiz entire administration executed, he woud disband the party he started az well az execute most uv the R Congressmen & Senatorz.
Treazon woud be the charj.

Meaningless hyperbole. I hope you don't believe it.

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 6:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Biden* is my president, in the thinnest, almost meaningless sense of the word.

Besides the fact that mail-in fraud election was fraud, he doesn't have a single neuron firing properly in his brain anymore, and all he can think about on stage is how the 12 year old daughters of other politicians sitting in the audience really set him on fire. He's a puppet president.


But I'm not going to sit and bitch and moan about shit that's out of my control for the next 4 years like you do JO.

I'm too smart for that, and frankly, you are too.

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Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is my president, in the thinnest, almost meaningless sense of the word.

Besides the fact that mail-in fraud election was fraud, he doesn't have a single neuron firing properly in his brain anymore, and all he can think about on stage is how the 12 year old daughters of other politicians sitting in the audience really set him on fire. He's a puppet president.


But I'm not going to sit and bitch and moan about shit that's out of my control for the next 4 years like you do JO.

I'm too smart for that, and frankly, you are too.

The American legal system is very slow at punishing rich people like Trump or Jeffrey Epstein:

Brown wasn’t the first journalist to cover Epstein or to scrutinize the 2008 plea deal in which the billionaire got off with a mere slap on the wrist, despite ample evidence that he had lured scores of underage girls to his Palm Beach mansion to molest and sexually exploit them. But Brown resuscitated the story by poring over reams of court documents, meticulously tracing the myriad ways Epstein’s powerful friends and well-funded lawyers manipulated the justice system on his behalf. Most importantly, she tracked down multiple victims—no easy task, since the legal documents anonymized them—and persuaded several women to be interviewed on the record, as well as winning over the wary Palm Beach police detective and police chief who, she soon realized, “seemed to the be the only two people who were willing to risk their careers to go after Jeffrey Epstein.”

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/perversion-justice-julie-brown-jeffr
ey-epstein-review.html


If Jeffrey Epstein had stayed away from little girls and concentrated on tax cheating as Trump has done, Epstein would still be alive today. When Trump finally gets his mere slap on the wrist for tax cheating, no reporters will reopen the story in 10 years because it doesn't involve sex.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 23, 2021 12:03 AM

JO753

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And thats the gi Trump pikt to be Labor Secretary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.ht
ml


SOP for Trump wuz to put crooks into pozitionz uv power, but uv special note here with Acosta iz hiz work for Epstien. Did Trump beleev he coud be useful in the future if pedofilia charjez agenst him came out?

Makes sens considering the countless thouzandz uv better qualified peepl he coud hav pikt for the job.

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Friday, July 23, 2021 12:45 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI: Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html




Thanks for the link. I dont recall hearing about Ejypt'z dictator helping Trump befor.

Did you fail to read the story yourself? It hurts your case rather than put any dout on Russian interferens.

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Friday, July 23, 2021 3:44 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

1KIKI: Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html



JO: Thanks for the link. I dont recall hearing about Ejypt'z dictator helping Trump befor.
Did you fail to read the story yourself? It hurts your case rather than put any dout on Russian interferens.



Jo, did YOU read the article??? Here, let me help your comprehension of the article

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... Prosecutors suspected there could be a link between the Egyptian bank and Trump's campaign contribution, according to several of the sources, but they could never prove a connection.

It's not clear that investigators ever had concrete evidence

Oh dear.
NO EVIDENS

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of a relevant bank transfer from the Egyptian bank... "The case was first looked at by the Special Counsel investigators who failed to bring a case, and then it was looked at by the US attorney's office, and career prosecutors in the national security section, who also were unable to bring a case. Based upon the recommendations of both the FBI and those career prosecutors, Michael Sherwin, the acting US attorney, formally closed the case in July."


Because NO EVIDENS.

JO, you've been endlessly chasing phantoms and making up stories about Trump that, in the end, are NOTHING.

Your thinking is so distorted that you can read an article that plainly says one thing and turn it 180 deg.

Wow.




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Friday, July 23, 2021 4:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
And thats the gi Trump pikt to be Labor Secretary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.ht
ml


SOP for Trump wuz to put crooks into pozitionz uv power, but uv special note here with Acosta iz hiz work for Epstien. Did Trump beleev he coud be useful in the future if pedofilia charjez agenst him came out?

Makes sens considering the countless thouzandz uv better qualified peepl he coud hav pikt for the job.

The assumption that Epstein’s victims were insignificant and disposable pervaded everything he did. In a striking anecdote, Brown hears about Epstein’s longtime friendship with Donald Trump, who once fondly remarked that Epstein was “a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” According to the story Brown was told, the two men finally fell out when Epstein hit on the daughter of a member of Mar-a-Lago. That was an uncharacteristic misstep for Epstein, hunting among the people who count.

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/perversion-justice-julie-brown-jeffr
ey-epstein-review.html


Trump never goes as far as Epstein did at breaking the law. I "admire" Trump. He has sufficient self-control that his lawbreaking is never so egregious that public opinion absolutely forces law-enforcement to finally indict him, unlike Epstein, who occasionally forgot where the forbidden zone is, where the cops can't ignore what he did, although the cops really want to ignore it all, but only if the public doesn't know the cops are shirking their duty, preferring to indict poor people who don't have a team of lawyers constantly on call to handle emergencies. When Trump's legal toilet overflows because he took a huge dump, Trump calls his Roto-Rooter team of attorneys to stop this shit.

Trump says people are 'flushing toilets 10, 15 times'



Why is Trump so obsessed with toilets? One imagines Freud would have had a theory or two. My own, very simple, explanation is that the guy is potty; he has worms in his brain and something horrible in his gut. Interestingly, however, Trump seems particularly bothered by bathroom issues during tough times. His 2019 rants were delivered as impeachment proceedings started. His latest loo-natic monologue was delivered with the election just weeks away, Joe Biden leading in the polls, and the number of people with coronavirus surging across the US. Is he subconsciously showing us he’s worried his career is about to get flushed down the toilet? Let’s hope so and let’s hope it happens: it’s time to dump Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/20/trump-obsessed-t
oilets-busted-flush-arwa-mahdawi


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Friday, July 23, 2021 8:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Let’s hope so and let’s hope it happens: it’s time to dump Trump.



That'll be the day.



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Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:51 AM

JO753

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Add another name to the TrumPutin Conspirasy.

Patrick Byrne.



From WaPo:

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The 56-year-old, who used to be Overstock’s largest shareholder, set off a frenzy last month when he said he had been involved in multiple FBI investigations and had romanced Maria Butina


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/19/overstocks-former-c
eo-sells-off-his-m-stake-saying-hes-worried-about-deep-state
/

Or, he coud be lying kuz he had the hots for Maria. Another wakt out splooj monkey with the $$$ to be az kurazy az he wants.

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Saturday, August 14, 2021 9:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If I were you, JO, I'd be a lot more worried about what's swimming around in your blood right now.

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Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:20 PM

SIGNYM

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Even for those of us who followed and wrote on the Russia investigation for five years, much has been revealed in the last year.

It was disclosed in October, for instance, that President Obama was briefed by his CIA director, John Brennan, on July 28, 2016, on intelligence suggesting that Hillary Clinton planned to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” The date was significant because the Russia investigation was initiated July 31, 2016, just three days later.

Throughout the campaign, the Clinton campaign denied any involvement in the creation of the so-called Steele dossier’s allegations of Trump-Russia connections. However, weeks after the election, journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the dossier made to a research firm, Fusion GPS, as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to the campaign’s law firm. New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Clinton lawyer Marc Elias, with the law firm of Perkins Coie, denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”

It was not just reporters who asked the Clinton campaign about its role in the Steele dossier. John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, was questioned by Congress and denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Sitting beside him was Elias, who reportedly said nothing to correct the misleading information given to Congress.

It was later revealed that American intelligence viewed Steele as unreliable and believed his dossier was used by Russian intelligence to plant disinformation. Later reports show that Steele shopped the information to any reporters who would listen before the election and that there was an effort to get the information to trusted figures in the Justice Department.

This cross-pollination between the campaign and the Justice Department was evident in the strange role of Bruce Ohr, a senior Justice official who was later demoted for concealing his meetings with people pushing the Steele dossier; his wife, Nellie Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS as a researcher on Trump’s purported connections to Russia. Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz subsequently found that Bruce Ohr acted improperly and committed “consequential errors in judgment.”

Others are reported in some media accounts to be in Durham’s crosshairs, including an analyst at the liberal Brookings Institution, Igor Danchenko, who was a source for part of the dossier and the subject of a Durham subpoena. Danchenko has been linked to a source viewed by American intelligence as a conduit for Russian disinformation and reportedly was investigated as a possible national security threat, according to at least one news report.

Durham also is reportedly looking into information concerning Alfa Bank, a privately owned commercial bank in Russia. That information led to possible access to the Trump campaign server. The Alfa Bank controversy is likely to make a number of powerful people particularly uneasy. Clinton campaign-linked figures such as Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson allegedly pushed the debunked claim that the Trump campaign had a server linked directly to the bank, which in turn was linked to Vladimir Putin and his cronies. The Alfa Bank conspiracy reportedly was pitched to the Justice Department, including in contacts with Bruce Ohr.



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Saturday, August 21, 2021 8:28 PM

JO753

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Rachel explainz how Trump deliberately sabatojd the withdrawal:



And the GoPs helped make it az bad az possible.

Sins it wuz long BEFORE the election, and BEFORE he lost the election, wy woud he sabatoj it wen it wuz possible he woud be Prez wen it happened?

wy? wy? wy? Its Kray Zeee! wy?

Bekuz Putin ordered him to. Make America look bad.

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Saturday, August 21, 2021 8:46 PM

DREAMTROVE


This is silly.

I mean Putin said outright "I like Trump. I think I can work with Trump." Hillary said "If elected I will [send troops] to Ukraine to fight [Russia]"
Yeah, he had an opinion on the election, but his approach was to outright say it, not to hack our election with spies. The USSR has probably been interfering in every election they could for its entire existence, here and worldwide. So what? So have we. This isn't a shocking revelation.

The left bots are just upset because the guy Russia liked won.
Seems like whining.

Also, the media's "hey look, Trump likes slavic girls ergo he's a Russian spy" is probably the dumbest argument I've heard in US election politics and that has a LOT of competition. Actually, I'm sure someone can come up with a dumber one. I'll chalk that up to memory lapse. It's so much stupid that I'm sure there's a dumber one.

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Saturday, August 21, 2021 8:54 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

hypocritical GoP law professor Jonathan Hurley employz wutuboutizm to distract from TrumPutin Conspirasy



Even if everything he sez iz true, wich iz very unlikely, it duznt mean Putin did not help get Trump elected.

Wy are you even bothering? Your denial boat sunk 4 yirz ago.

Youre a gost in a premium cabin on the Titanic, still waiting for your frikaseed rabbit au gratin & Chataue Le Blanc.

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Saturday, August 21, 2021 9:07 PM

JO753

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Start at the beginning, DT.

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Saturday, August 21, 2021 9:12 PM

SIGNYM

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Whatever bad happens, it's Trump's fault, acting as Putin's puppet TM

JO doesn't have to show HOW it was done. That it was something bad is evidens enuf.

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Saturday, August 21, 2021 9:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Start at the beginning, DT.



If you've got free time to waste and you want to read a bunch of crazy shit, by all means DT...

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Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:27 PM

JO753

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new evidens.



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Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'd tell you to get a hobby, but I know you've already got them.

Maybe it's time for you to get a job, JO, so you don't have to think about Trump all the time.

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I bet Jef Clark gets to be the fall gi and the rest get away with it all.



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Friday, October 8, 2021 11:59 AM

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Sorry not sorry, but nobody should be listening to the opinions of somebody getting paid $30 million per year to tell you what to think.



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Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:39 AM

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Wut opinion?

Its the Fox goonz spewing baseless opinion all nite. I dont think any uv their dumass viewerz can tell the differens between a statement uv fact (true or false) and an opinion.

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Saturday, October 9, 2021 1:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

Its the Fox goonz spewing baseless opinion all nite. I dont think any uv their dumass viewerz can tell the differens between a statement uv fact (true or false) and an opinion.



I agree.

But you should look in the fucking mirror.



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Saturday, October 9, 2021 4:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whatever bad happens, it's Trump's fault, acting as Putin's puppet TM

JO doesn't have to show HOW it was done. That it was something bad is evidens enuf.




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Sunday, October 10, 2021 10:11 AM

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OK, JO753, I wanted to get back to you on the Rachel Madcow video - which I only listned halfway thru, she's such a roomba ... with something other than an automated response.

WHY, for god's sake, is she spewing about "how our DoJ is not supposed to work" NOW?'

Didn't she notice that Hillary Clinton had hired Perkins- Coie (law firm) to hire Fusion GPS, who hired Christopher Steele, who paid a drunken disaffected Russian (who had a habit of telling people what they wanted to hear, for money) and that disinfo was used to concoct a "dossier" full of lurid, evidence-free allegations?

Didn't Madcow notice that this evidence-free "dossier" was back-channeled by Nellie Ohr (CIA) to her husband, Bruce Ohr (Associate Deputy Attorney General) who stove-piped it to James Comey ( Director of the FBI), Peter McCabe (Acting Director of the FBI, after Comey was fired), and Peter Strzok (FBI "investigator/instigator"), and that a witch-hunt was begun on that basis?

She also didn't object to Comey using the discussion of the "dossier" with Trump (while assuring him that he was not under investigation) as an excuse to divulge the allegations against Trump to Senators, so that it could be leaked to Buzzfeed (via McCain aide David Kramer,
Quote:

IG Report: McCain Aide Leaked Steele Dossier to Buzzfeed; McCain Colluded With Comey

https://thenewamerican.com/ig-report-mccain-aide-leaked-steele-dossier
-to-buzzfeed-mccain-colluded-with-comey
/

so that the allegations could be reprinted and echoed and endlessly rehashed throughout the M$M without ever being challenged on fact?

Didn't Madcow notice that the FBI charged Michael Flynn wiht lying, even as their internal reports indicated that his interviewers - including Pter Strzok- believed he wsa telling them THE truth?

She didn't notice that the same firm (Perkins- Coie) ALSO hired Crowdstrike to "examine" the suposedly hacked, and leaked, DNC emails, which blared to the public that they had found "evidence" of Russian involvement, but that THE FBI ITSELF NEVER LOOKED AT THE SERVERS? Meanwhile, Crowdstrike was secretly testifying to the Senate that there was NO evidence that the emails had been "exfiltrated" - i.e. remotely uploaded- by ANYONE, let alone Russians?

And what about that form on Trump aide Carter Page, that was illegally changed by FBI Lawyer Kevin Klinesmith to aver that Page was NOT working for the CIA - which he was- which would explain his contacts with Russians .... because he was passing that info back to the CIA!

I could go on and on about the conspiracy on the DOJ to fabricate "evidence" about Trump, involving the FBI, CIA, Senators, the abuse of the FISA Court, suppression of exculpatory evidence, and illegal leaks to the media (these investigations are supposed to be hush hush) ... why didn't she object THEN?

This trail of abuse of process and illegalities by the CIA and FBI are not rumors or allegations, JO753, they are FACT, found in various Inspector General reports and internal investigations. It forms a clear picture of a multi-year conspiracy to dislodge a duly elected President from office. Why wasn't Madcow hyperventilating about the subversion of the DOJ and an ACTUAL attempted coup and loss of democracy THEN?

*****


There were thousands of allegtions of improprieties observed during the ballot-counting process, backed by hundreds of affidavits (sworn testimony). This was NOT "made up" by Giuliani. It was the concern of roughly 75 million Americans.

What would have happened if the DOJ had NOT "investigated"? There would have been a huge hue and cry of a coverup. As it is, the DOJ did the establishment a huge favor by investigting and finding nothing.

JO753, you need a new pair of eyes. You only see what you've been convinced to see. Get new glasses, Get a new hobby. Get a brain change. Take some lithium. Everything you'e posted as "evidence" as been debunked, many times over. So do SOMETHING. Stop being a purveyor of Madcow madness.

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Saturday, October 30, 2021 5:57 AM

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Jon Durham stepped in it.



If the Demz got any sens at all, they will hype the poopoo out uv this.

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Saturday, October 30, 2021 6:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This trail of abuse of process and illegalities by the CIA and FBI are not rumors or allegations, JO753, they are FACT, found in various Inspector General reports and internal investigations. It forms a clear picture of a multi-year conspiracy to dislodge a duly elected President from office. Why wasn't Madcow hyperventilating about the subversion of the DOJ and an ACTUAL attempted coup and loss of democracy THEN?



Nise color.

Darnel frum Cristine: "Yu no, Pepper, you cant polish a turd".

Siggy thinks: 'hmm. Lets try painting it!'

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Saturday, October 30, 2021 6:22 AM

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lol

What's your boy Biden* up to besides making sure every Democrat down ticket outside of California and New York is going to lose the next election?

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Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:20 PM

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I see that you're blinding your eyes to FACTS , JO753.

I told you that these FACTS were being unearthed as part of a criminal investigation, didn't I?

For a smart man, you're kinda dumb.

Quote:

Arrest Of Steele Dossier Source A "Seismic Development"
Thursday, Nov 04, 2021 - 10:16 AM

Shining further light on today's arrest of Igor Danchenko - the primary source for the debunked Steele dossier - is constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley, who calls it a "seismic development."

More via Jonathanturley.org:

The office of Special Counsel John Durham has confirmed that Igor Danchenko, a key source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele, has been arrested. This is the third arrest by Durham who is moving toward the prosecution stage of his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion scandal. Durham is variously described as either painfully methodical or positively glacial as a prosecutor. But he is widely credited with being a dogged and absolutely apolitical prosecutor. Danchenko’s arrest is a seismic development and confirmed Durham is far from done with his investigation.

Washington was recently rocked by the indictment of Michael Sussman, former counsel for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee, for his alleged role in spreading a false Russia conspiracy theory.

Now Danchenko is being charged with lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Danchenko is widely referenced as the sub-source for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele for his controversial dossier. That dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign, served as the basis for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Danchenko told the FBI that the dossier was “unsubstantiated” and said that Steele asked him to look for any “compromising” information on Trump. Mr. Danchenko worked for the Brookings Institution, a liberal Washington think-tank that often produced reports critical of Trump.

Danchenko is not someone who immediately comes across as an apex defendant — the highest target in an investigation. He was a key source used by others to advance false or unsubstantiated claims against Trump. He is the type of defendant that prosecutors pressure to flip against those who retained him or used him in this effort. In other words, he strikes me as someone who can be used as a building block to apex defendants.

Potential apex targets above him in investigation range from Steele himself to Clinton general counsel Marc Elias to Clinton campaign officials.

There is no indication if Durham has possible evidence of criminal acts by those figures but there is every indication that he is not done by a long shot with this investigation.

MORE AT ZEROHEDGE https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-arrest-primary-steele-dossier-s
ource-durham-investigation-heats


but original material from https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/04/igor-danchenko-arrested-as-part-
of-durham-investigation
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Friday, November 5, 2021 12:57 PM

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Bump for JO753.

I just wanted to make sure you see REAL evidence, found by criminal investigation and durable enough to warrant actual arrests, instead of "allegations" and "indictments" (later withdrawn.)

I do hope you open your mind up to the possibility that you might be wrong, JO. It's not so terrible to reach erroneous conclusions, it's only bad when you cling to them.

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Saturday, December 4, 2021 3:40 PM

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Apparently, not only did the Russian ad agency accused by Mueller of interfering in the 2016 elections show up for it's day in court ... causing the DOJ to withdraw it's case... so did AlfaBank, which had been accused of secretly communicating with a Trump Tower server.

The parties at the other end of the lawsuit-FusionGPS et al, -are taking a playbook from Hillary Clinton, hiding evidence etc.

Special Counsel Durham found those hidden emails, and Alfa is petitioning the court to have them introduced as evidence.


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Special Counsel Durham Found The E-Mails Fusion GPS Tried To Hide

Saturday, Dec 04, 2021 - 01:37 PM

Authored by Techno Fog via The Reactionary,

Back in May, we reported on the fight brewing in a DC federal court, where Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson were trying to keep secret their internal correspondence and records relating to their role in pushing the Alfa Bank/Trump hoax. New court filings indicate Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson improperly failed to disclose some of their most damning e-mails.

Overview

For background, the fight arises out of a lawsuit – Fridman, et al. (Alfa Bank) v. Bean LLC a/k/a Fusion GPS, and Glenn Simpson, where the owners of Alfa Bank have sued Fusion GPS and Simpson for falsely accusing “the Plaintiffs—and Alfa (“Alfa”), a consortium in which the Plaintiffs are investors—of criminal conduct and alleged cooperation with the ‘Kremlin’ to influence the 2016 presidential election.”

The case was filed in October 2017. Litigation has been ongoing for over four years – with Alfa Bank still fighting to obtain written discovery from Fusion GPS that is material to its case. Our previous report had to do with that very discovery dispute. Back in May, Alfa Bank “filed a motion to compel, asking the Court to require Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson to produce nearly 500 critically important documents improperly withheld as privileged.” (More background here.)

These documents included e-mail correspondence within Fusion GPS regarding the “Alfa Playbook” and showed the early development of the Fusion GPS/Simpson work on Trump/Russia. One would assume this entails the early or emerging thought process of the “intelligence” group as they sought to falsely accuse the Trump campaign of colluding with Russia.

In a later post from July 2021, we observed that records indicated Fusion GPS had been in contact with Michael Sussmann of Perkins Coie regarding Alfa Bank. More communications Fusion GPS is trying to keep secret.

What nobody realized at the time, however, was the importance of these communications. Michael Sussmann – the DNC/Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer – would later face false statement charges and be basically accused of being part of a conspiracy to defraud the federal government with respect to the Trump/Alfa Bank allegations.
The Latest Developments

Today, the attorneys for Alfa Bank filed this their “Supplement to Plaintiffs’ Second Motion to Compel Defendants to Produce Documents Improperly Withheld as Privileged.” The motion was filed to inform the court that Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson (and/or their attorneys) “possess numerous documents responsive to Plaintiffs’ RFPs [requests for production] that [Fusion/Simpson] neither produced nor included in their privilege log.”

[Brief interlude: generally, the parties request and exchange documents in a federal civil case like this. A party can avoid producing documents where they claim a privilege – they just need to typically submit a “privilege log” to the other side. This doesn’t mean the privilege will ultimately prevail.]

What does the latest filing by Alfa Bank reveal?

Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson (or their attorneys) failed to submit in the privilege log certain communications ultimately uncovered by Special Counsel John Durham. I’ll let the Alfa Bank motion explain:

In other words, Fusion GPS/Simpson deliberately withheld the disclosure of these e-mails in their privilege log. The very e-mails that very likely point to a conspiracy to push the Alfa Bank/Trump hoax by Perkins Coie, Glenn Simpson, and Rodney Joffe (“Tech Executive-1” listed in the Sussmann complaint), et al.

Once Alfa Bank discovered their misconduct, Fusion GPS/Simpson were quick to list these e-mails in their latest privilege log. An example:

This is a serious non-disclosure by Fusion and Simpson (or their attorneys). The consequences could include sanctions (such as reimbursing Alfa Bank for having to file various motions to compel). Or the court could determine this to be an abuse of the discovery process and outright force Fusion GPS/Simpson to produce all e-mails they are currently withholding relating to Alfa Bank and Perkins Coie.

From the outset of this dispute, we believed Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson would be forced to produce to Alfa Bank nearly all e-mails it possesses relating to the Alfa Bank hoax. These latest developments reinforce that belief - and the belief that they’re fighting to keep secret e-mails that are extremely important to understand their role in deceiving the public in the Trump/Russia hoax.




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Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:30 PM

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lol

You mean they had no case in the first place?

Imagine that, huh?

I'll bet CNN is writing its apology letter to the American People as we speak.



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Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:59 AM

SIGNYM

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I don't understand why ppl don't see the pattern with Shillary.

Whitewater investigation: critical box of evidence goes "missing". VinceFoster commits "suicide". Investigation closes and box turns up the following day.

Use of non-govt emailer by Scy State. 33,000 emails get wiped ("like, with a cloth?") and DOJ orders aides' mobile phones to be destroyed so none can be recovered.

That's not mentioning the Clinton "death roll" of everyone who might testify to Bill's sex activities, ending with Epstein. (But then I bet a lot of ppl wanted him dead. Can't lay that one at the Clinton's feet, particularly.)

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Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:50 AM

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They intentionally don't see it. And their "news" sources are happy to let them think that anyone who would suggest it is an alt-Right racist or misogynist or put your "phobe" here.

All I've got to say is that woman and her family had better hope there's not a god.

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Friday, January 28, 2022 2:43 AM

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Quote:

What Did Clinton Know and When Did She Know It? The Russiagate Evidence Builds
[against Hillary]

As indictments and new court filings indicate that Special Counsel John Durham is investigating Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for feeding false reports to the FBI to incriminate Donald Trump and his advisers as Kremlin agents, Clinton’s role in the burgeoning scandal remains elusive. What did she know and when did she know it?
AP Photo/Dmitri Lovetsky
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Top officials involved in her campaign have repeatedly claimed, some under oath, that they and the candidate were unaware of the foundation of their disinformation campaign: the 35-page collection of now debunked claims of Trump/Russia collusion known as the Steele dossier. Even though her campaign helped pay for the dossier, they claim she only read it after BuzzFeed News published it in 2017.

But court documents, behind-the-scenes video footage and recently surfaced evidence reveal that Clinton and her top campaign advisers were much more involved in the more than $1 million operation to dredge up dirt on Trump and Russia than they have let on. The evidence suggests that the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory sprang from a multi-pronged effort within the Clinton campaign, which manufactured many of the false claims, then fed them to friendly media and law enforcement officials. Clinton herself was at the center of these efforts, using her personal Twitter account and presidential debates to echo the false claims of Steele and others that Trump was in cahoots with the Russians.

Although Clinton has not been pressed by major media on her role in Russiagate, a short scene in the 2020 documentary “Hillary” suggests she was aware of the effort. It shows Clinton speaking to her running mate, Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, and his wife, Anne, in hushed tones about Trump and Russia in a back room before a campaign event in early October 2016. Clinton expressed concerns over Trump’s “weird connections” to Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin. She informed Kaine that she and her aides were “scratching hard” to expose them, a project Kaine seemed to be hearing about for the first time.

“I don’t say this lightly,” Clinton whispered, pausing to look over her shoulder, "[but Trump’s] agenda is other people’s agenda.”

We’re scratching hard, trying to figure it out,” she continued. "He is the vehicle, the vessel for all these other people.”

The two then discussed “all these weird connections” between the Trump campaign and Russia. Kaine brought up former Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort, and Clinton expressed suspicion about Trump’s then-national security adviser, ret. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, "who is a paid tool for Russian television.”

Added Clinton: “This is what scares me … the way that Putin has taken over the political apparatus, or is trying to — .”

MORE AT https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/01/27/what_did_c
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Friday, January 28, 2022 3:43 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Ronnie had early Alzheimer's, Dubya seemed brain-damaged from too much partying, Hillary looked drugged, and Joe* is ... well ... Joe*.

I'm not sure I'd credit Hillary with being a RUSSIA!!!gate mastermind. She may have just been a meat puppet. Maybe she was a willing meat puppet (if you let us take control, you'll be the next president!) but something looked amiss with her. (And what is it with Americans voting for brain-damaged presidents?)

In any case, I hope ALL the facts come out!



And I hope Durham stays safe.

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Saturday, February 12, 2022 1:33 PM

SIGNYM

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I wish JO753 was here to read this. But likely life has him by the balls... as it does so many ideologies... and is teaching him different life lessons. Which I hope he survives.

Quote:

We previously discussed how Rodney Joffe (identified as Tech Executive-1 in the Sussmann indictment and in the latest filing discussing the conflict) exploited proprietary – and perhaps classified – data provided by DARPA to further their own political attacks, and how that might result in charges. It was later confirmed that two former DARPA employees have given grand jury testimony, so it appears Durham is following this track.

I provide that background because of what we just learned. Durham also divulged, to an extent, that contractors and tech experts (meaning Joffe and his cohorts) – those same people involved in the Alfa Bank hoax – essentially spied on President Trump.

According to Durham, Joffe and his associates exploited internet data from “the Executive Office of the President of the United States” to further their own political agenda. They had come to possess this data as part of a “sensitive arrangement” with the U.S. government. As Durham explains:...]

MORE AT https://technofog.substack.com/p/durham-clinton-allies-spied-on-the

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I was just thinking about JO last night. I hope he's doing alright.


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Quote:

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I was just thinking about JO last night. I hope he's doing alright.


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Me too. Unlike some people here, he's not malicious. Just confused. I feel sorry for him, actually.

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Sunday, February 13, 2022 6:05 PM

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I'm not confuzed.

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I'm not confuzed.

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It's not a good thing when Ted's got your back.

Glad to see you're hanging in there anyway JO.

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