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Punishing Russia With Sanctions

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Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:52 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Russia is not "blockading" Ukrainian seaports.

HOW are they doing this, supposedly?

Is Russia threatending to sink grain ships?
No.

Have they mined the waters out of Odessa?
er.no.
That would be Ukraine.
Russia and Turkey came up with a proposal to de-mine the waters, it was UKRAINE that refused to allow it.

Next time you post that, SECOND, please be specific and describe IN DETAIL "HOW". WITH EVIDENCE.

That should prevent you from posting more bullshit.




Turkey detains Russian-flagged grain ship from Ukraine

It is not clear where its cargo came from or how it was obtained, but Russia has been accused of stealing grain from areas of Ukraine it controls - allegations Russia denies.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62010113



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Friday, July 29, 2022 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Russian Fossil Fuel Revenues Double Despite
Because of
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Western Sanctions

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-fossil-fuel-revenues-do
uble-despite-western-sanctions


Meanwhile, the ruble, which took a steep dive when the Russian Central Bank was attacked by the west, is now the strongest it's been in 20 years.
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/RUBUSD/

Just imagine buying rubles a month ago. What an opportunity!

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Researchers at Yale University say the Russian economy is suffering massive damage due to Western sanctions, despite Moscow downplaying the effect. The authors claim their work casts doubt on Moscow's claims that the economy remains robust and that the West is suffering more through "a war of economic attrition."

Yale's team of experts used consumer data and figures from Russia's international trade and shipping partners to measure economic activity five months after Moscow launched its invasion of Ukraine. "Russian domestic production has come to a complete standstill with no capacity to replace lost businesses, products and talent," the team found.



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Friday, July 29, 2022 9:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


A study from Yale, you say?

You are so stupid, Ted.

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Saturday, July 30, 2022 9:30 AM

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The rouble is soaring and Putin is stronger than ever - our sanctions have backfired

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/putin-ruble-west
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Monday, August 1, 2022 1:05 PM

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Not comrade Signym's nor anyone else's bullshit can hide the truth. Soon things will be so bad in Russia even the lies of Russia doing good will stop. Sig, I told you so.

tick tock

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Tuesday, August 2, 2022 2:16 PM

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Would be surprised if there's any Russian gas flowing to Europe by this winter:



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Tuesday, August 2, 2022 5:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Russia is doing fine.

You should be more worried about what's going on here, Ted.

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Saturday, August 6, 2022 7:30 PM

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Russia is doing fine.

You should be more concerned with the death of your Party and be doing whatever you can to try to stop them from committing suicide.



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Sunday, August 28, 2022 9:00 PM

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Seriously dude. Get some help.

You must be the saddest person in the world.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:47 PM

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Nobody cares.

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Monday, September 5, 2022 9:33 AM

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The stakes are high as the Sanctions continue

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RUSSIA - G7 Announce OIL PRICE CAP to DESTROY Russian Oil Revenue WITHOUT Affecting Global Oil Price






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Monday, September 5, 2022 9:49 AM

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Comrade Signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?

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RUSSIA Facing DISASTER as Trade Sales COLLAPSE & is UNABLE to Replace with Trade from CHINA & INDIA






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Monday, September 5, 2022 1:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


That was an interesting video, THUGR. If YOU haven't watched it, it basically said that if the USA/western world imposes sanctions on any nation that trades wth Russia "("secondary sanctions") then Russia's prime energy markets - China and India - will decide to end trade with Russia bc THEIR largest trading partner is the USA and they won't want to risk that trade.

However, he misses an important point when he says that China and India can always get their oil (nad gas) from somewhere else.

The big (unasked) question is At what price?

If Russian oil is taken out of the world market entirely, prices have been guesstimated to rise to $300/bbl (or more). That's bc Saudi Arabia is producing at maximum sustainable wellhead production, Nigeria is producing at maximum bc of political instability, and Venezuela's infrastructure is so degraded (thanks to sanctions) it can't increase production, etc.

That's the reason why the west hasn't lowered the boom on Russian energy exports, but is trying to keep Russia in the market by setting a "price cap". And that's why the west has limited enforcement mechanism to denying insurance to tankers that carry Russian oil that is contracted to sell above the pice cap.

Not only is the enforcement mechanism impossibly complicated to target, it's also easily gotten around by Indian, Chinese, and/or Russian (or other) -based insurances.

If that weren't enough, Russia has already presented its buyers with tough choice: If you go along with the "price cap" we will refuse to sell you any oil.

Seeing as Russian oil is CRITICAL in the current tight market, buyers will have to decide which they can forgo: an export market to the USA, or an energy supply.

This could be one reason why the USA and western elite appear to be ready to torpedo western economies; they might be thinking that if they can reduce energy demand that can mitigate the "oil price shock" that would be sure to follow strict sanctions. I persoanly don't think that the EU nations can politically sustain an imploded economy unless they resort to Nazi-level repression. But it's a complicated topic with conflictinginterests within and between nations.

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Monday, September 5, 2022 1:39 PM

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We'll see comrade signym. So far Russia is still on course for a total meltdown. A total meltdown. I told you America would enact a payback for all Russia's meddling. And damn, it's a good one. America is overseeing a complete takedown of Russia and Putin.

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Monday, September 5, 2022 2:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
We'll see comrade signym. So far Russia is still on course for a total meltdown. A total meltdown. I told you America would enact a payback for all Russia's meddling. And damn, it's a good one. America is overseeing a complete takedown of Russia and Putin.



WHEN, THUGR?

You've started an awful lot of infinitely-ticking clocks. Well, given enough time eventually some of your predictions might come true. I mean, eventually Russia will collapse but, yanno, maybe in 200 years, so can you put a time limit on your "predictions" please?

And, will it happen before the west collapses?
I'm personally more concerned about the USA's fate. If we take down Russia but pull the temple down on our heads, too .. what good does that do us?

Tick tock



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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 2:31 PM

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Too many keepers of the gate here for Democracy to fail comrade. As to when Russia will collapse, we have front row seats and are watching it happen right now. We are a major cause of it, and I'm loving it. Your denning it doesn't change that. All your denials of the facts over the years doesn't change anything.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 2:54 PM

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tick tock

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PENTAGON Press Secretary Brigadier General Pat Ryder said the move was indicative of Russia's challenges in sustaining its invasion of Ukraine, which Moscow has called a "special military operation."

Last month, a U.S. official told Reuters that Russia's Iranian-made drones had suffered "numerous failures." The official said Russia most likely planned to acquire hundreds of Mohajer-6 and Shahed-series unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

Ukraine recently launched counteroffensives in several locations, including around Kherson, which Russia has occupied since early in the invasion. In preparation for those attacks, Ukrainian forces struck Russian supply areas, including those containing artillery and ammunition.

Officials have said Western sanctions are limiting Russia's ability to replace vehicles and weapons destroyed in Ukraine.






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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 3:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Officials have said Western sanctions are limiting Russia's ability to replace vehicles and weapons destroyed in Ukraine.
OMFG, how is this supposed to be happening?

Does Russia buy its weapons from the west?
No?

Our officials sure spout a lot of nonsense!

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So far, sanctions against Russia are only having a hypothetical effect. Despite the west literally stealing Russia's assets, the ruble hasn't collapsed, inflation in Russia hasn't taken off, there are no shortages of essential goods, and Russia is amassing foreign reserves like never before.

OTOH Europe is being stretched like never before, and the Euro is cratering. That tick tock should be reserved for Europe. I give Europe a year.

Why don't you put a time limit on YOUR clock, THUGR?

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Monday, September 19, 2022 1:27 PM

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Wednesday, September 28, 2022 7:20 PM

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EU plans new Russia sanctions after sham 'referendums'






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Wednesday, September 28, 2022 7:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Keep focusing on Russia, idiot, and then wonder why your party died in November.



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Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:22 AM

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It's the latest fashion. Making Putin look like an ass. Happy Birthday Putty.

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Sunday, October 9, 2022 3:32 PM

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tick tock

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 8:45 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep focusing on Russia, idiot, and then wonder why your party died in November.

Wonder why your Trump died in November. Hint: he is extra-fat and full of bullshit, both of which Trumptards find to be arousing. Crude shipments to Europe averaged 630,000 barrels a day in the four weeks to Oct. 7, down from 1.62 million before the invasion.

The European Union’s latest round of sanctions, passed in response to President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of parts of Ukraine, include a ban on shipping Russian crude anywhere in the world on EU tankers -- an escalation that could greatly increase the impact on seaborne flows. The sanctions have also been revised to incorporate a price cap championed by the US Treasury under which, from Dec. 5, buyers of Russian crude could use European ships, insurance and other services, but only if the price they pay is below a certain threshold.

Russia has said it won’t sell its oil to anyone who imposes a price cap, warning that its introduction could lead the country to cut production, and its major customers remain unlikely to endorse the plan. Still, the existence of such a mechanism is expected to boost the bargaining power that key customers China, India and Turkey have over Russia for future purchases.

Flows to those three countries, which initially stepped in to fill the gap after European buyers started to shun Moscow’s exports, peaked in June at 2.2 million barrels a day. In the four weeks to Oct. 7 that figure was down by about 320,000 barrels a day.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-10/russia-loses-60-of-
its-seaborne-crude-market-in-europe


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 9:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep focusing on Russia, idiot, and then wonder why your party died in November.

Wonder why your Trump died in November. Hint: he is extra-fat and full of bullshit, both of which Trumptards find to be arousing.



OK tard...



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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 10:21 AM

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I see Jack=ass is posting pictures of his parents again. Can you say, incest?

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 11:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep focusing on Russia, idiot, and then wonder why your party died in November.

Wonder why your Trump died in November. Hint: he is extra-fat and full of bullshit, both of which Trumptards find to be arousing.



OK tard...

It is Philanthropist Jennifer Pritzker, at left, and Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, which proves what I've known since childhood: fat people dig their own graves with their teeth. Gluttony is one of the "deadly" sins mentioned in the Bible. I'm an Atheist with a Capital "A", but truth remains true because humans haven't changed in 300,000 years since the first ones. Too bad Trumptards don't understand how they shorten their lives with habitual seven deadly sins, despite 300,000 years to learn simple lessons.

Seven deadly sins list & Trump has all of them every waking moment:

Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride

https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-are-seven-deadly-sins

These weren't called "deadly" sins for theological reason. Each of these sins will get Trump, Trumptards, and other fools killed in certain circumstances. Presumably the Russian Army has not learned that these sins will get soldiers killed in battle, especially sloth and pride, both which make a soldier not take precautions to survive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 11, 2022 12:30 PM

SIGNYM

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Funny how the seven deadly sins don't match up with the ten Commandments, innit?

Not being a bible scholar, altho I was taught about the seven deadly sins I couldn't recall any particular place where they were written. It's not a list, like the Ten Commandments. According to the wisdom of the internet, the closest thing to a list is in Proverbs

Quote:

Proverbs chapter 6:16 through chapter 6:19...
Proverbs Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Wow, SECOND, looks like you've hit the jackpot on these!

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18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Huh, you've pretty much done all of these, too. Oh, my!

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But what does this have to do with sanctions and Russia? Bc, the funny thing is, sanctions seem to be destabilizng Germany in particular, Europe generally, folllowed by the USA. Russia? Not unfazed, but seems to be in better shape than we (the collective west) are.

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Saturday, November 5, 2022 6:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Putin can no longer compete with China on any level so he will be treated by China like he treats other lesser countries. Man has Russia fallen into despair and dysfunction. And man is it going to suck for Putin being told instead of doing the telling. China is telling Putin to come to us my pretty and he is, he is crawling to them.

Too funny…

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Tuesday, November 8, 2022 4:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Funny how the seven deadly sins don't match up with the ten Commandments, innit?

Not being a bible scholar, altho I was taught about the seven deadly sins I couldn't recall any particular place where they were written. It's not a list, like the Ten Commandments. According to the wisdom of the internet, the closest thing to a list is in Proverbs

Quote:

Proverbs chapter 6:16 through chapter 6:19...
Proverbs Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Wow, SECOND, looks like you've hit the jackpot on these!

Quote:

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Huh, you've pretty much done all of these, too. Oh, my!

*****

But what does this have to do with sanctions and Russia? Bc, the funny thing is, sanctions seem to be destabilizng Germany in particular, Europe generally, folllowed by the USA. Russia? Not unfazed, but seems to be in better shape than we (the collective west) are.

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Second wants my dick so bad.

Seriously dude. I'm fine with gay guys, but you're never getting a piece of me.

Go rub up on Ted.



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Monday, November 14, 2022 4:56 PM

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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 8:05 PM

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China halts some Russian crude purchases as looming oil price cap leaves buyers looking for a bigger discount

Some Chinese buyers have halted purchases of Russian crude ahead of a price cap expected to begin December 5, Bloomberg reported.

Traders say they are waiting to see if the price cap allows for better deals on supplies, per the report.

Russian officials have said they would not sell to nations that adhere to the US-led price cap.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-halts-some-russian-crude
-purchases-as-looming-oil-price-cap-leaves-buyers-looking-for-a-bigger-discount/ar-AA14pX1A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b445813bc374c5ca0862d0f62fcdba6




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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 8:38 PM

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Ted is a mindless bootlicker for Raytheon.

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Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Putin can no longer compete with China on any level so he will be treated by China like he treats other lesser countries. Man has Russia fallen into despair and dysfunction. And man is it going to suck for Putin being told instead of doing the telling. China is telling Putin to come to us my pretty and he is, he is crawling to them.

Too funny…

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 1:24 PM

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Russia’s Economy at the End of 2022: Deeper Troubles

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/russias-economy-end-2022-deeper
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Friday, November 25, 2022 6:20 PM

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‘Russia’s Google’ wants to sell its Russian businesses and flee the country with its most promising tech

After Moscow invaded Ukraine, 'Russia's Google' has decided it can't stay in Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-google-wants-to-sell-its
-russian-businesses-and-flee-the-country-with-its-most-promising-tech/ar-AA14xk5z?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=873a4dfcfa084155b3b3c1e2dd17ac1e




And the exodus continues.

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Friday, November 25, 2022 8:02 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR believes the M$M bc it tells him what he wants to hear. "Critical thinking" is a foreign concept.




Russia's ongoing invasion of Ukraine is pushing out one of Russia's biggest tech giants

Yandex, Russia's biggest tech giant, wants to cut ties with the country, according to the NYT.

Yandex's parent company has concerns about the impact of the Ukrainian war on its businesses.

The exit could deliver a blow to President Putin as he focuses efforts on homegrown tech and goods.

Russia stands to lose its biggest tech company, which would throw a wrench in President Putin's plans to foster Russian-grown alternatives for Western technology.

Yandex, often referred to as Russia's Google, is the country's largest internet business best known for its search browser and ride-hailing apps. But its Dutch-based parent company, Yandex N.V., wants out of Russia because of the potential negative impact the Ukrainian invasion could have on its business, according to a report by The New York Times.



They say ignorance is bliss comrade sygnym. It's obvious you are swimming in it.

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Friday, November 25, 2022 10:48 PM

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Nobody cares.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:34 AM

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Russian economy is tanking.

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Saturday, December 17, 2022 6:38 PM

THG


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Originally posted by THG:

Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

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Deal reached for new non-Russian power source for Europe

UCHAREST, Romania (AP) — The leaders of Hungary, Romania, Georgia and Azerbaijan finalized an agreement Saturday on an undersea electricity connector that could become a new power source for the European Union amid a crunch on energy supplies caused by the war in Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/deal-reached-for-new-non-russian-
power-source-for-europe/ar-AA15ocgr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4709ca504adb4978a0363364cab4cd83




Russia's done.

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Bad News, Putin: Russia Will Get Slapped with New Sanctions

U.S. and E.U. Announce New Sanctions On Russia – The United States continues to levy economic sanctions against Russia and Russian oligarchs, this week announcing a series of new sanctions against a Russian oligarch, the board of directors of a major Russian railway network, and more.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bad-news-putin-russia-will-get-sl
apped-with-new-sanctions/ar-AA15p2pc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=981ff74835894d52a7494c15d214c81c




Jerk this too comrade.

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