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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 6:52 AM

THG


Putin Slams Dollar Dominance At BRICS Summit, Calls For Local Currency Trade

Russian President Vladimir Putin railed against dollar dominance and Western sanctions in a prerecorded speech at the BRICS summit. Putin, unable to attend in person due to potential arrest, called for increased use of local currencies for trade.

Putin criticized the trade restrictions placed on Russia over the Ukraine war as illegitimate. He stated these actions trample upon basic norms and rules of free trade, Business Insider reported.

Putin also emphasized the “objective, irreversible process of de-dollarization” of economic ties, adding that summit participants would discuss issues and mechanisms related to local currency trade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/putin-slams-dollar-dominance-a
t-brics-summit-calls-for-local-currency-trade/ar-AA1fEnx4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f5a709bba3244a32bee7f28ba6d5e5c8&ei=69




Poor Putin

T


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Monday, October 2, 2023 12:19 PM

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Multinationals flee Russia, punishing Moscow

Biden to champion US diplomacy in State of the Union as West stands up to Putin

GOP senators push back hard on Trump's praise of Putin
SENATE

Large multinational companies are fleeing Russia, joining a large swath of the international community in moving to isolate the nation in response to its brutal invasion of Ukraine.

Oil and gas giants BP and Shell announced they are leaving Russia after spending decades making investments worth billions of dollars in the country, while several U.S. companies are halting all shipments to Russia.

The exodus is expected to continue as more businesses weigh the reputational and financial risks of doing business with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Experts say that if energy firms are willing to forfeit huge sums by pulling out of Russia, industries with much less to lose will soon follow suit.

“I think corporate executives, in addition to considering political risk, are genuinely outraged by what Russia has done,” said Bill Reinsch, the Scholl chair in international business at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, adding that he is surprised by just how quickly companies have made the call to leave Russia.

These decisions are driven in part by enormous public pressure to disown the Russian government and also by the sweeping sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies that severely complicate companies’ ability to do business with Russian entities.

Shell on Monday said that it will abandon stakes in Russian state-owned energy projects that are worth roughly $3 billion. The Dutch company noted that the move will hurt the value of its assets and “lead to impairments.”

"We are shocked by the loss of life in Ukraine, which we deplore, resulting from a senseless act of military aggression which threatens European security," Shell CEO Ben van Beurden said in a statement.

That announcement came after BP, a longtime defender of Putin, said it would desert its 20 percent stake in Russian state-owned energy firm Rosneft. The move could cost BP as much as $25 billion if the oil giant is forced to write off the investment, as selling it could prove difficult under strict sanctions.


“Russia’s attack on Ukraine is an act of aggression which is having tragic consequences across the region,” BP Chairman Helge Lund said in a statement. “BP has operated in Russia for over 30 years, working with brilliant Russian colleagues. However, this military action represents a fundamental change.”

As Russia escalates its attacks on Ukraine, it’s becoming increasingly isolated from the rest of the world. American shipping companies FedEx and UPS said they would temporarily suspend all shipments to both countries, while Germany’s DHL said it would pause some services to Russia and Ukraine, citing security concerns.

Ocean carrier Maersk said Monday that it might suspend shipments to and from Russia, a move that would further cut the nation off from international trade. The Danish shipping giant said that it was monitoring the security situation in Ukraine and “preparing to comply with the ever-evolving sanctions and restrictions imposed against Russia.”

Companies that haven’t fled are likely evaluating how to navigate complex sanctions and exploring whether continuing business with Russia is worth the regulatory challenges.

In response to the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. and its allies froze roughly $630 billion in Russian central bank assets being held abroad, blocked fundraising for Russian state-owned entities and cut some Russian banks out of the SWIFT international payments system. The U.S. blocked Russian state-owned banks from accessing the U.S. dollar and imposed export controls that prevent Russia from obtaining computer chips and other technologies.

In just a matter of days, the sanctions have brought the Russian economy to the brink of collapse. The Russian ruble was worth less than 1 cent as of Monday afternoon, giving businesses yet another reason to pull out of the country.

European companies, particularly banks and energy firms, are far more exposed to Russia than U.S. businesses, which generally sought to limit their Russian investments after the U.S. imposed sanctions on Russia in 2014 for annexing the Crimea Peninsula.

Russia accounts for around 7 percent of oil imported to the U.S. but is only the 20th largest importer for all goods and the 40th largest export market for American goods, according to the U.S. Trade Representative office.

A small number of U.S. companies would face challenges if they’re cut off from Russia. Boeing has long relied on Russian titanium to build its planes but has insisted it can get materials from other countries. Both PepsiCo and McDonald’s get around 4 percent of their sales from Russia and Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/596200-mul
tinational-us-companies-flee-russia-amid-invasion









Remember this?

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Sunday, October 29, 2023 6:09 PM

THG


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Originally posted by THG:

Why the enormous scale of financial pain being inflicted on Russia worries some in the West

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-the-enormous-scale-of-fina
ncial-pain-being-inflicted-on-russia-worries-some-in-the-west/ar-AAUxvE4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




These sanctions are going to last long after they are lifted. Russia will never be the same. Most who will suffer have nothing to do with Putins' decisions yet without sanctions of this magnitude war is the only option left. It may come to that yet. Putin cannot be allowed to march through Europe. There are no winners here. Only those who will suffer because a mad man is running Russia.

T





Told you so comrade signym, told you so.

T


RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse Panic Continues as Russia DOUBLES Interest Rates to 15%



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Sunday, October 29, 2023 10:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, you're wrong.


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Friday, November 10, 2023 5:45 PM

THG


tick tock comrade signym, tick tock...

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Friday, November 10, 2023 8:20 PM

SIGNYM

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CHINA ANNEXES RUSSIAN LAND

tick tock comrade signym, tick tock...



I imagine you would do a simple Google search BEFORE you post nonsense, THUGR! That might save you embarrassment.
No such thing happened!



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Tuesday, November 14, 2023 1:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

CHINA ANNEXES RUSSIAN LAND

tick tock comrade signym, tick tock...

T



I imagine you would do a simple Google search BEFORE you post nonsense, THUGR! That might save you embarrassment.
No such thing happened!


SIGNYM



Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island comrade.

T



China’s New Official Map Has Nearly All of Its Neighbors in an Uproar

A new map published by the Chinese government this week appeared to reverse a 15-year agreement with Beijing's ally Russia over an island on their shared border.

The 2023 map released by China's Ministry of Natural Resources shows Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River as fully part of China, despite an agreement in the 2000s with Russia that the two countries would split control.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-new-official-map-show-par
ts-of-russia-india-as-chinese-territory/ar-AA1g33cn




You really are brain dead comrade signym.

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Friday, November 24, 2023 10:51 AM

THG


Russian Economy About to 'Hit the Ice,' Putin Ally Warns

Russia's economy is about to "hit the ice", billionaire businessman Oleg Deripaska, described as President Vladimir Putin's "favorite oligarch", has warned.

The businessman, whose fortune Forbes estimates at $2.4 billion, issued the warning in a post on his Telegram channel, saying that there is a general drop in commodity prices, including those that Russia exports, and that this could negatively impact the country's economy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-economy-about-to-hit-t
he-ice-putin-ally-warns/ar-AA1kqucq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e9d7e039d21a434d898ababd778af330&ei=103




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Friday, November 24, 2023 1:04 PM

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Oh, I'm sure it is, Ted. I'm sure it is.

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Friday, November 24, 2023 1:44 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Russian Economy About to 'Hit the Ice,' Putin Ally Warns

Russia's economy is about to "hit the ice", billionaire businessman Oleg Deripaska, described as President Vladimir Putin's "favorite oligarch", has warned.

The businessman, whose fortune Forbes estimates at $2.4 billion, issued the warning in a post on his Telegram channel, saying that there is a general drop in commodity prices, including those that Russia exports, and that this could negatively impact the country's economy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-economy-about-to-hit-t
he-ice-putin-ally-warns/ar-AA1kqucq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e9d7e039d21a434d898ababd778af330&ei=103



So, why would commodities prices collapse?
Well, possibly bc a large market, the collective west, would collapse first


Too bad for the west that while Russia clearly can function without the west, the west can't function without Russia.



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Tuesday, November 28, 2023 1:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Russian Economy About to 'Hit the Ice,' Putin Ally Warns

Russia's economy is about to "hit the ice", billionaire businessman Oleg Deripaska, described as President Vladimir Putin's "favorite oligarch", has warned.

The businessman, whose fortune Forbes estimates at $2.4 billion, issued the warning in a post on his Telegram channel, saying that there is a general drop in commodity prices, including those that Russia exports, and that this could negatively impact the country's economy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-economy-about-to-hit-t
he-ice-putin-ally-warns/ar-AA1kqucq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e9d7e039d21a434d898ababd778af330&ei=103



So, why would commodities prices collapse?
Well, possibly bc a large market, the collective west, would collapse first

Too bad for the west that while Russia clearly can function without the west, the west can't function without Russia.

- SIGNYM






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Wednesday, November 29, 2023 9:14 AM

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Leaked documents reveal Russian airlines are slowly collapsing



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Monday, December 4, 2023 7:58 PM

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RUSSIA Recruiting 170,000 New Soldiers - Putin Decree May Signal New Military Mobilization & Exodus






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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 5:59 PM

THG


Putin Dealt Double Blow by US Allies in Europe

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been dealt a double blow after the European Union Council adopted a 12th sanctions package against Russia this week and it was reported that sanctions imposed on Russia in response to Putin's war in Ukraine will not be lifted after the conflict ends.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-dealt-double-blow-by-us-all
ies-in-europe/ar-AA1lNh6M?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=b4d35c6dc2b04b9fb8f85ecdc4f04960&ei=57




Yep...

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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 7:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMG!!! Another even more pointless sanctions package!

Can you see me laughing???





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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 8:25 PM

THG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

OMG!!! Another even more pointless sanctions package!

Can you see me laughing???

- SIGNYM






You're not laughing. Your hiding behind lies and propaganda. You never even come close to posting anything truthful.

You, no not laughing, crying.

T


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Wednesday, December 20, 2023 9:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG!!! Another even more pointless sanctions package!
Can you see me laughing???


THUGR: You're not laughing. Your hiding behind lies and propaganda. You never even come close to posting anything truthful.
You, no not laughing, crying.





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Saturday, December 30, 2023 7:04 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

OMG!!! Another even more pointless sanctions package!
Can you see me laughing???

THUGR: You're not laughing. Your hiding behind lies and propaganda. You never even come close to posting anything truthful.
You, no not laughing, crying.



SIGNYM




T

European Sanctions Cause Russian Natural Gas Collapse || Peter Zeihan

Most of Europe has been working to reduce dependency on Russian natural gas, and boy, did they deliver. Russia's natural gas state monopoly, Gazprom, has just reported its lowest output levels since 1978.



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Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:10 PM

THG


Russian oil tankers are turning away from India amid disagreements over payment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-oil-tankers-bound-for-
india-are-turning-around-amid-scuffle-over-payments-to-moscow/ar-AA1mmalT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=933b97d278154dc387704b869fd6b642&ei=72




Simple, the world runs on dollars. Not Russian Rubles or Indian Rupee's. And comrade signym, be sure to check out the video above. It's a gas.

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Friday, January 12, 2024 11:57 AM

THG


Sanctions deflate prices and the Kremlin's budget revenue

Bloomberg concludes that the primary reason for the difference is an 11 percent increase in expenditures and a 24 percent decrease in budget revenue from oil and gas taxes. Notwithstanding this decline, these sources still comprise one-third of the Kremlin's revenue.

Oil revenue also fell due to a 17 percent downturn in oil prices in 2023. Western sanctions, applied in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, had a significant influence as well.
Revenue from the export of Russian gas also diminished. The Kremlin's decision to halt most of the supply to Europe in 2023 led to a 65 percent decline in budget revenue from export duties on gas, equivalent to roughly 6.9 billion US dollars, Bloomberg reports. It's worth noting that Russia only delivers gas via one pipeline in Ukraine – TurkStream.

Moreover, the International Energy Agency assesses that domestic pipeline gas exports to the European Union fell by 65 percent in 2023. The mild winter weather and, thus, the reduced demand played a part in this drop.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/russia-s-budget-deficit-grow
s-amidst-dwindling-energy-revenues-and-heightened-military-spending/ar-AA1mPAWQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=df19a3df7a9a4908951994d02bb1eadc&ei=337




Also, if these numbers come from Russia, and it is said they do, then the real numbers are certainly worse.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:31 PM

THG


Tens of thousands of Russians freeze as hot water pipes burst around the country

Tens of thousands of people across Russia are currently living with no heating or hot water following an unprecedented wave of infrastructure failures.

Even large cities like Novosibirsk and Vladivostok, as well as the suburbs of Moscow, have experienced burst hot-water mains, ruptured heating pipelines, and crumbling municipal infrastructure. These incidents have escalated since the beginning of 2024, with temperatures dropping to -30 degrees and below in some parts of the country.

Borrow From Your Home While Keeping Your Current Mortgage Rate

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/tens-of-thousands-of-russ
ians-freeze-as-hot-water-pipes-burst-around-the-country/ar-AA1n2pJZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=16c04403b2e844ae916b4c0a7254c446&ei=75




Sad...

T


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Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:34 PM

THG


Vladimir Putin is scrambling to contain soaring egg prices as Russia grapples with a Soviet-style economic headache

Vladimir Putin is battling red-hot inflation, with the price of eggs and other basic foods soaring.

Soviet-style queues have formed with Russians trying to build up large stockpiles.

The Kremlin has responded by slashing import duties and buying eggs from Azerbaijan and Turkey.

As the war in Ukraine rages on, Vladimir Putin has another battle on his hands: the one to rein in soaring egg prices.



End the war. Russia, get out of Ukraine.

T


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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 7:05 PM

THG


China Banks Tighten Curbs on Russia Over Fears of U.S. Secondary Sanctions, Report Claims

China’s state-owned banks are tightening the screws on funding to Russian clients, likely because they’re scared of catching heat from U.S. secondary sanctions, according to a Bloomberg report.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-banks-tighten-curbs-on-r
ussia-over-fears-of-u-s-secondary-sanctions-report-claims/ss-AA1n8stn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0443d74b3ce545bc9034df9bb0c31e3c&ei=54




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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 7:10 PM

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Wednesday, January 17, 2024 8:06 PM

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I wonder what person with a Russian name killed Ted's kid or pissed in his Cheerios.

Why do you care so much?

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Saturday, January 20, 2024 2:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FROM NEWSWEEK

Quote:

How Russia Won the Sanctions War With the West | Opinion
Jan 17, 2024

It is now abundantly clear that Russia has defeated the Western sanctions regime that was intended to cripple its economy and force its withdrawal from Ukraine. Instead of collapsing, the Russian economy is growing rapidly. Russia's GDP grew by an impressive 5.5 percent in the third quarter of 2023. Final figures for the year are not yet in, but Russian GDP growth for all of 2023 should exceed 3 percent. Ironically, the Russians are doing rather better than those who imposed sanctions on them. In 2023, the U.S. economy grew by 2.4 percent while the German economy shrank, and the EU as a whole grew by less than 1 percent. Instead of withdrawing from Ukraine, Russia has increased the size of its invasion force from 190,000 troops in February 2022 to more than 600,000 today.

Between February 2022 and February 2023, Western countries imposed on Russia the most extensive sanctions regime seen since World War II. In all, several thousand sanctions on Russian individuals, businesses, and government institutions caused only a mild recession in 2022 which the Russians quickly turned around. How did they do it? Very simply. The Russians have a lot of gold, grain, oil, and friends, all of which they used effectively to defeat the sanctions. Any realistic war game could have easily predicted all of this.



And yet, neocons failed to notice the little speed bump on their road to World Domination?

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In March of 2022, G7 member states froze $300 billion in Russian Central Bank reserves, about half of Russia's foreign currency reserves at the time. This was supposed to "turn the ruble into rubble." It did not. Instead, the Russian Central bank moved very quickly to peg the ruble to gold and backed this up with its massive gold reserves and production capacity. The peg was in force for barely three months, but this bought Moscow time to re-orient its energy trade away from Europe and adjust its overall economy to the sanctions.

Life Goes on in Russia
Almost immediately, Russia began to shift its energy trade toward China and India by offering discounts. Today, 90 percent of its crude oil exports go to these two nations. Europe, which used to receive 40 percent of Russian crude oil exports, now receives only 4 percent to 5 percent. To evade Western shipping and insurance sanctions, the Russians have assembled an enormous "shadow fleet" of oil tankers, buying and leasing hundreds of vessels that did not comply with sanctions. According to the International Energy Agency, Russia currently exports 7.5 million barrels of oil per day, only slightly less than Saudi Arabia.

Then the Russians got creative in their sanctions-busting by recruiting friends like Iran, Turkey, China, North Korea, and Kyrgyzstan to help transship high tech goods like microchips, as well as drones and automobiles. For example, imports of Western cars and parts to Kyrgyzstan rose by an amazing 5,500 percent in the first nine months of 2023.

Russia remains the world's largest producer of natural diamonds and a significant diamond exporter. Waves of sanctions have had only a limited effect on its diamond production and revenues. Finally, since the collapse of the Soviet Union's collective farm system, Russia has become the world's largest wheat exporter. Despite Western sanctions, Russia's share of global wheat exports actually increased over the past two years. Thanks to global warming, Russia has just had another bumper grain harvest and hopes for even more grain as Siberia warms. Putin does not care about polar bears. He has plenty.

NATO's wonder-weapons like HIMARS and Leopard tanks failed to fuel an effective Ukrainian counter-offensive. Diplomacy

Neocons don't do "diplomacy". They break treaties, agreements, and contracts; torpedo peace talks; and threaten military strikes and sanctions. They even blow up allies' energy supplies once in a while.

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failed to isolate Russia, which is busy reviewing numerous applications to join it in the BRICS organization. Economic warfare has been a bust. This has led some to now consider the mother of all sanctions.

At present, Russian Central Bank assets have been frozen, which means they cannot be used, but still belong to Russia. Some foreign policy advisors are now proposing that these assets should be confiscated and handed over to Ukraine. Regardless of its legality, that is a very dumb idea. Taking the assets of Russia's central bank would encourage just about everyone to find an alternative to the dollar as their reserve currency. That won't be easy, but if the alternative is losing all your money if you annoy Washington, people will find a way. Nothing would do more to unite the Russian people in their hatred of the West, support for President Vladimir Putin and determination to continue the war than stealing what they consider to be their money; which, in fact, it is. And how do you think Putin would react? Well, for one, he will confiscate all Western assets in Russia. Is the U.S. Treasury prepared to compensate the mostly German owners of those assets for their losses?


Neocons have thrown Germany under the bus many times by now. I wonder when the German people will discover that saying about being America's friend?

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Sanctions are cheap and easy to impose, but they seldom work. While they make it look like you are doing something meaningful, they are, in fact, often little more than economic virtue signaling. Economic sanctions have certainly not changed the outcome in Ukraine. Kyiv is out of men, out of money, out of artillery shells and out of time. The West should stop giving money to a man with a hole in his pocket.


https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-186
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Since major articles NEVER appear in western press without purpose, which elite faction does this represent?



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Saturday, January 20, 2024 4:09 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM NEWSWEEK

Since major articles NEVER appear in western press without purpose, which elite faction does this represent?

The same economic truth works in both Russia and the USA. The gross national product of the U.S., as measured in constant dollars, grew from $88.6 billion in 1939 — while the country was still suffering from the depression — to $135 billion in 1944. Russia has started WW3 and it will get a similar burst of growth just the same as the USA got in WW2, at least until NATO or Ukraine starts a wholesale destruction of Russian manufacturing. Russia didn't prosper during WW2 because, you know, Nazis were very aware that destroying Russian cities reduces GDP. Germans seem to have forgotten how economies still work the same in 2024. No, Signym, Russia cannot stop that destruction unless it wants to be nuked. At the moment only Ukraine is even halfheartedly trying to destroy Russia's GDP, but Russia has gone full speed destroying Ukraine's.

https://eh.net/encyclopedia/the-american-economy-during-world-war-ii/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, January 20, 2024 6:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Russia hasn't started WWII. It's our neocons and their dreams of World Domination.
Why are our troops in Syria?
Why are our troops in Iraq?
Why are our troops in Japan?
Why have we broken every treaty with Russia?


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Infographic: US military presence around the world


Upwards of 750 US bases around the world

According to David Vine, ??professor of political anthropology at the American University in Washington, DC, the US had around 750 bases in at least 80 countries as of July 2021.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/10/infographic-us-military-prese
nce-around-the-world-interactive


Can you blame other nations for wanting to defend themselves?


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Saturday, January 20, 2024 6:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


JUST SO, YANNO, THE MAIN POINT DOESN'T GET BURIED IN SECOND'S RED HERRINGS

FROM NEWSWEEK

Quote:

How Russia Won the Sanctions War With the West | Opinion
Jan 17, 2024

It is now abundantly clear that Russia has defeated the Western sanctions regime that was intended to cripple its economy and force its withdrawal from Ukraine. Instead of collapsing, the Russian economy is growing rapidly. Russia's GDP grew by an impressive 5.5 percent in the third quarter of 2023. Final figures for the year are not yet in, but Russian GDP growth for all of 2023 should exceed 3 percent. Ironically, the Russians are doing rather better than those who imposed sanctions on them. In 2023, the U.S. economy grew by 2.4 percent while the German economy shrank, and the EU as a whole grew by less than 1 percent. Instead of withdrawing from Ukraine, Russia has increased the size of its invasion force from 190,000 troops in February 2022 to more than 600,000 today.

Between February 2022 and February 2023, Western countries imposed on Russia the most extensive sanctions regime seen since World War II. In all, several thousand sanctions on Russian individuals, businesses, and government institutions caused only a mild recession in 2022 which the Russians quickly turned around. How did they do it? Very simply. The Russians have a lot of gold, grain, oil, and friends, all of which they used effectively to defeat the sanctions. Any realistic war game could have easily predicted all of this.



And yet, neocons failed to notice the little speed bump on their road to World Domination?

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In March of 2022, G7 member states froze $300 billion in Russian Central Bank reserves, about half of Russia's foreign currency reserves at the time. This was supposed to "turn the ruble into rubble." It did not. Instead, the Russian Central bank moved very quickly to peg the ruble to gold and backed this up with its massive gold reserves and production capacity. The peg was in force for barely three months, but this bought Moscow time to re-orient its energy trade away from Europe and adjust its overall economy to the sanctions.

Life Goes on in Russia
Almost immediately, Russia began to shift its energy trade toward China and India by offering discounts. Today, 90 percent of its crude oil exports go to these two nations. Europe, which used to receive 40 percent of Russian crude oil exports, now receives only 4 percent to 5 percent. To evade Western shipping and insurance sanctions, the Russians have assembled an enormous "shadow fleet" of oil tankers, buying and leasing hundreds of vessels that did not comply with sanctions. According to the International Energy Agency, Russia currently exports 7.5 million barrels of oil per day, only slightly less than Saudi Arabia.

Then the Russians got creative in their sanctions-busting by recruiting friends like Iran, Turkey, China, North Korea, and Kyrgyzstan to help transship high tech goods like microchips, as well as drones and automobiles. For example, imports of Western cars and parts to Kyrgyzstan rose by an amazing 5,500 percent in the first nine months of 2023.

Russia remains the world's largest producer of natural diamonds and a significant diamond exporter. Waves of sanctions have had only a limited effect on its diamond production and revenues. Finally, since the collapse of the Soviet Union's collective farm system, Russia has become the world's largest wheat exporter. Despite Western sanctions, Russia's share of global wheat exports actually increased over the past two years. Thanks to global warming, Russia has just had another bumper grain harvest and hopes for even more grain as Siberia warms. Putin does not care about polar bears. He has plenty.

NATO's wonder-weapons like HIMARS and Leopard tanks failed to fuel an effective Ukrainian counter-offensive. Diplomacy

Neocons don't do "diplomacy". They break treaties, agreements, and contracts; torpedo peace talks; and threaten military strikes and sanctions. They even blow up allies' energy supplies once in a while.

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failed to isolate Russia, which is busy reviewing numerous applications to join it in the BRICS organization. Economic warfare has been a bust. This has led some to now consider the mother of all sanctions.

At present, Russian Central Bank assets have been frozen, which means they cannot be used, but still belong to Russia. Some foreign policy advisors are now proposing that these assets should be confiscated and handed over to Ukraine. Regardless of its legality, that is a very dumb idea. Taking the assets of Russia's central bank would encourage just about everyone to find an alternative to the dollar as their reserve currency. That won't be easy, but if the alternative is losing all your money if you annoy Washington, people will find a way. Nothing would do more to unite the Russian people in their hatred of the West, support for President Vladimir Putin and determination to continue the war than stealing what they consider to be their money; which, in fact, it is. And how do you think Putin would react? Well, for one, he will confiscate all Western assets in Russia. Is the U.S. Treasury prepared to compensate the mostly German owners of those assets for their losses?


Neocons have thrown Germany under the bus many times by now. I wonder when the German people will discover that saying about being America's friend?

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Sanctions are cheap and easy to impose, but they seldom work. While they make it look like you are doing something meaningful, they are, in fact, often little more than economic virtue signaling. Economic sanctions have certainly not changed the outcome in Ukraine. Kyiv is out of men, out of money, out of artillery shells and out of time. The West should stop giving money to a man with a hole in his pocket.


https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-186
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Since major articles NEVER appear in western press without purpose, which elite faction does this represent?



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Sunday, January 21, 2024 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM NEWSWEEK

Quote:

How Russia Won the Sanctions War With the West | Opinion
Jan 17, 2024




US adds 17 Liberian-flagged bulk carriers and oil tankers Russian sanctions busting blacklist

'Today’s actions once again demonstrate that anyone who violates the price cap will face the consequences. No one should doubt our coalition’s commitment to stopping those who help the Kremlin,' Adeyemo

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-adds-17-liberian-flagged-bu
lk-carriers-and-oil-tankers-russian-sanctions-busting-blacklist/ar-BB1gZ5Zp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=882b15140dfb430bb06fc57c6065d84e&ei=191




These sanctions are meant to destroy the Russian economy for a generation at least. No hurry, their effect only grows.

tick tock

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Sunday, January 21, 2024 11:55 AM

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All of this ends at the beginning of next year. Everybody needs to just chill until then.



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Monday, January 22, 2024 11:55 AM

THG


Nope; Biden will declare an emergency, accept the Senate's version of the border bill and bypass the House. This bill has money allocated for Ukraine, Israel and Twain.

While this is happening, some republicans will try and remove the speaker again.

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There's been a lot of movement in Turkey's neck of the woods, so the Turks have had to change their stance on several issues. Given Turkey's strategic positioning and importance, expect huge regional implications.


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Monday, January 22, 2024 12:10 PM

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Democrats do love them some unconstitutional wars.

They just can't seem to get around to declaring an emergency for the invasion at our own border though.

They'll be happy spending hundreds of billions of dollars housing, feeding and giving healthcare and school to illegal alien invaders while telling us that Social Security is going to fail before we retire.

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Monday, January 22, 2024 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Democrats do love them some unconstitutional wars.

They just can't seem to get around to declaring an emergency for the invasion at our own border though.

They'll be happy spending hundreds of billions of dollars housing, feeding and giving healthcare and school to illegal alien invaders while telling us that Social Security is going to fail before we retire.





It's not their fault all your teeth rotted out of your head so you have to gum your food. Give it a rest.

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Monday, January 22, 2024 1:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Democrats do love them some unconstitutional wars.

They just can't seem to get around to declaring an emergency for the invasion at our own border though.

They'll be happy spending hundreds of billions of dollars housing, feeding and giving healthcare and school to illegal alien invaders while telling us that Social Security is going to fail before we retire.





It's not their fault all your teeth rotted out of your head so you have to gum your food. Give it a rest.

T




It's called dentures, dummy. I eat my food just fine and you don't hear me ever complaining about it.

I never had a cavity either. It wasn't the teeth that rotted out, but the jawbone holding them in that disappeared.



You'd better hope nothing bad happens to you. A little pussy like you would have already killed yourself.

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Monday, January 22, 2024 9:23 PM

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RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse is Destroying Economy as Import Costs Push up Inflation & Interest Rates






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Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:55 AM

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Western tanker owners have been spooked by U.S. sanctions targeting Russian oil sales, putting pressure on Moscow's "shadow fleet" of ships transporting the country's key energy export since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Measures to choke off one of Russia's main export revenue generators funding the war started by Russian President Vladimir Putin included the G7, the EU and Australia imposing a price cap; it bans firms from insuring, financing, and shipping Russian seaborne oil exports sold above $60 a barrel.

However, Russia has traded oil using a shadow fleet in which the ships' ownership is reorganized, often through shell companies in the Middle East, to obscure their connections to Moscow. The amount of shadow vessels leaving Russia rose from 13 percent in February 2022 to 42 percent by mid-2023.
Bloomberg reported that, in January, there had been a fivefold increase in ships sailing under the flag of Gabon to 100—up from just 20 in February 2023, citing data from Windward AI.

The predictive intelligence company noted flags such as Liberia and St. Kitts and Nevis had been heavily targeted by regulators.

"The move to Gabon by operators shipping sanctioned oil was precipitated partly by the U.S. authorities putting pressure on the St Kitts and Nevis registry earlier last year," Septimus Knox, director, disputes and investigation at geopolitical and cyber risk consultancy S-RM, told Newsweek on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russia-s-shadow-fleet-running-
out-of-places-to-hide/ar-BB1hQQyn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1b1b57203e2a430f9132f0cea43eefcf&ei=90




tick tock

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Sunday, February 18, 2024 9:33 AM

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tick tock

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RUSSIAN Oil Exports Start to Collapse as Tankers refuse Russian Oil & India Cuts Imports from Russia


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Wednesday, February 21, 2024 8:59 AM

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China's biggest banks are finally getting scared by the West's sanctions against Russia

Three of China's Big Four state banks have stopped accepting payments from sanctioned Russian financial institutions, per Izvestia.

The halt follows the EU's 12th sanctions package against Russia and US secondary sanctions.

The West is now targeting international firms doing business with Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/china-s-biggest-banks-are-fi
nally-getting-scared-by-the-west-s-sanctions-against-russia/ar-BB1iD5Cw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=da5797e7a68e4f2697660d889961775c&ei=52




tick tock...

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Wednesday, February 21, 2024 10:05 AM

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Ukraine Can No Longer Win

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2024/02/21/ukraine_can_no_lo
nger_win_1013260.html


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Monday, February 26, 2024 1:49 PM

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2 YEARS OF WAR | Russian Economy Numbers Are Not Looking Good


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Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:36 AM

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Russia's Space Agency Forced to Sell Off Assets as Sanctions Take Toll

Russia's Roscosmos space agency plans to sell off assets worth more than 11.4 billion rubles ($124 million) as sanctions imposed by the West over President Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine continue to take a toll, local media has reported.

A representative of the company told Russian news outlet RBC that the decision was made after Roscosmos lost almost 80 percent of its export income after losing orders and key partners due to the war in Ukraine. This year, it intends to sell its "non-core" assets—more than 150 items including boarding houses and former sanatoriums, land and property complexes, and recreation centers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-space-agency-forced-to-s
ell-off-assets-as-sanctions-take-toll/ar-BB1j1RAt?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=738411d4eae64fc9842e94340b54ca83&ei=120




Comrade signym, I'm laughing.

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Thursday, March 7, 2024 7:36 PM

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Russia Hit By Tsunami of Bankruptcies

Russia has seen a sharp spike in corporate bankruptcies, according to a report that comes as Vladimir Putin looks to tax companies more to pay for his social program and the sanctions-hit economy continues to face turbulence.

The business newspaper Kommersant reported that in the first two months of 2024, corporate bankruptcies had increased by more than a half compared with the same period last year—and experts predicted an increase in insolvencies in future.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-hit-by-tsunami-of-bankrupt
cies/ar-BB1juuUj?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=268a35bb3ed64189a0ad058167208ec8&ei=67




Yup...

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Friday, March 8, 2024 8:12 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


No, Russia Is Not Winning

By Anastassia Fedyk and Yuriy Gorodnichenko | Mar 6, 2024

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/russia-not-winning-econom
y-strained-ukraines-is-recovering-by-anastassia-fedyk-and-yuriy-gorodnichenko-2024-03


Two years after Russia launched its full-scale war of aggression, Ukraine is still holding the line militarily, and even beginning to recover economically. As much as Vladimir Putin wants the world to think he has shielded the Russian economy from blowback, recent financial and economic developments suggest otherwise.

Russia’s economy has been showing signs of strain. A report from the US Treasury Department finds that Russia’s economy is 5% smaller than it would have been if President Vladimir Putin had not invaded Ukraine.

On Russia’s side, most of the economic losses are the result of its own mismanagement and Western sanctions. Analysts note that, due to military casualties and the exodus of individuals fleeing conscription, Russia faces a “demographic crisis.”

Anastassia Fedyk is Assistant Professor of Finance at the University of California, Berkeley.

Yuriy Gorodnichenko is Professor of Economics at the University of California, Berkeley.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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No, Russia Is Not Winning



Yeah. They are.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 8:10 PM

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Microsoft says Russian companies will be forced off its cloud services within days

Despite recent reports that Microsoft was all set to ban Russian companies from its suite of cloud services from March 20, it turns out this still isn’t in effect, but should be by the end of March 2024 - this week - instead, after the company held discussions with IT platform Softline, one of its customers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/microsoft-says-russian-compa
nies-will-be-forced-off-its-cloud-services-within-days/ar-BB1kvH9d?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=64fd2572cd1b4bb8b75bbec7eed077b0&ei=98




Good, because Putin and his cronies are cowards and pussies. Just like some of the posters here.

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Putin's war economy 'has grown weaker' as West considers 'zero trade option



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Ukraine Closing In on Russian Money Bonanza

International momentum on both sides of the Atlantic is building for Ukraine to benefit from Russian assets frozen due to Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion.

The Restoring Justice for Ukraine conference in The Hague on Tuesday saw 44 countries back a special tribunal to address Moscow's ongoing aggression and support a move for "immobilized Russian sovereign assets" to be used to help rebuild the war-torn country.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ukraine-closing-in-on-russian-
money-bonanza/ar-BB1l4Zdk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1eccd484969a449490941733128cbef5&ei=18




Putin is reported to be overheard crying while saying, that's not fair.

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Sunday, April 7, 2024 11:33 AM

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Major Russian oil refinery shuts down following Orsk dam burst

The failure was attributed to improper maintenance of the hydraulic structure, leading to the opening of a criminal investigation by the regional prosecutor’s office.

Situated near Russia’s border with Kazakhstan, the city of Orsk has drawn attention from Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, who labeled the flooding as one of Kazakhstan’s most significant natural disasters in 80 years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/major-russian-oil-refinery-shu
ts-down-following-orsk-dam-burst/ar-BB1lduwb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=3d14543622044cc791074746c046f555&ei=28




A direct result of sanctions. No parts that are needed for upkeep and also because of educated people running away from Russia as fast as they can.

Laughing here comrade signym

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