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Yeah, but from what I gather he's not wrong about China's economy doing a nose dive.

If anything here and in Europe were stable I wouldn't be as concerned about that as I am right now.

It might be a long winter... or years.

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Hey... In my mind, China is the real threat. Not Russia. I'm no fan of China.

Here's one thing that China is more than capable of that Russia is not...

How about we tank our own economy by pretending that it's already tanked (and sacrificing the lives and livelihood of a majority of our citizens while we're at it) just to financially take down America and the rest of the Western world when they're at their weakest point they've ever been?

I don't even want to sift through videos to find the ones that explain why China's collapse is going to hurt the rest of the world because I don't want to go down that blackpill road today, but to quote the GWB Administration, they're too big to fail. (Which is OUR fault).


... And they've also got a ton of blackmail info on Tik Tok users... Particularly Generation Zed. How many things do you think they've uploaded collectively as kids and teenagers (attached to ALL of their personal information on their phones) that they might do literally anything to keep from being put out there about them when they're adults?

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Hey... In my mind, China is the real threat. Not Russia. I'm no fan of China.

Here's one thing that China is more than capable of that Russia is not...

How about we tank our own economy by pretending that it's already tanked (and sacrificing the lives and livelihood of a majority of our citizens while we're at it) just to financially take down America and the rest of the Western world when they're at their weakest point they've ever been?

I don't even want to sift through videos to find the ones that explain why China's collapse is going to hurt the rest of the world because I don't want to go down that blackpill road today, but to quote the GWB Administration, they're too big to fail. (Which is OUR fault).


... And they've also got a ton of blackmail info on Tik Tok users... Particularly Generation Zed. How many things do you think they've uploaded collectively as kids and teenagers (attached to ALL of their personal information on their phones) that they might do literally anything to keep from being put out there about them when they're adults?

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China can only hurt us by failing to export critical commodities and materials. Whatever happens to their stock markets and banks and real estate speculators doesn't, insofar as I know, affect their industrial output bc half of their industries and ALL of their critical industries are state-owned enterprises (SOEs), an they just chunk out whatever they're told to chunk out.

What China can do is PRETEND like their industrial capacity is weak. But in reality, since their economy and political stability still depends on exports (bc they have relative overproductive capacity and only so many infrastructure projects to asborb it) they will still have to sell something to somebody. They've tied their development to being an export economy and they're stuck with it for the time being.

But, black-pill me all you want 'cause I'm not seeing a problem (except industrial chemicals and steel, which take huge investment and a lot of time to re-create elsewhere.) but maybe I'm missing something.

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Biden Launches a Full-Blown Economic War on China, It Will Backfire
The US thinks it can block microchip technology from China. It won't and blowbacks are everywhere.

Mish
Oct 28, 2022


Microchip Warfare

Turning the Screws

*Financial Times: How the US chip export controls have turned the screws on China
*The Conversation: Clampdown on chip exports is the most consequential US move against China yet
*The Atlantic: Why Biden’s Block on Chips to China Is a Big Deal

*Links can be found in original article

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Please consider How Companies Are Dealing with US Restrictions on Chip Exports to China

The U.S. Commerce Department announced a series of new trade restrictions earlier this month that banned the export of some computer processing chips to China.

The restrictions affect not only U.S. businesses selling to China, but also any company whose products contain American chip technology. The U.S. government action has many companies considering how to move forward under the new rules.

Numerous American technology companies doing major business with China are facing possible severe damage to their profits. Other companies that manufacture technology products in China are having to withdraw U.S. employees because the ban also bars "U.S. persons" from supporting technology covered by the ban.

James Lewis is a senior vice president and director of the Strategic Technologies Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington D.C. He told VOA the new restrictions seem to be "reshaping the market."

"The [South] Koreans, the Taiwanese and some American companies are really nervous about it,” Lewis said. “I mean, everyone's asking, 'What can I still sell to China?' And in some cases, the answer is 'nothing,'" he added.

In Britain’s Financial Times newspaper, U.S. national editor and columnist Edward Luce wrote that "Joe Biden this month launched a full-blown economic war on China."

So far, chip companies have reacted carefully to the ban. While recognizing the government's concerns, they have noted they were not given a chance to discuss the policy with U.S. officials before it was announced.

Call Them the Biden-Trump Tariffs Now

The Wall Street Journal comments Call Them the Biden-Trump Tariffs Now

President Biden has rolled back some of Donald Trump’s destructive tariffs, but not enough, and they’re still doing economic harm. New analyses of Mr. Trump’s Section 232 steel and aluminum tariffs show how consumers and manufacturers are still paying for the border taxes that benefit only a few companies.

A study by Harbor Aluminum for the Beer Institute finds that the 10% tariff on imported aluminum cost U.S. beverage manufacturers $1.7 billion from March 2018 through August 2022. About 93% of the $1.7 billion has been pocketed by domestic aluminum producers and smelters in the U.S. and Canada. Only $120 million has gone to the U.S. government.

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China to 'welcome the Taliban back' in bid to extend Belt and Road into Afghanistan

China plans to link Afghanistan to the Belt and Road Initiative as the withdrawal of NATO forces from the country clears the way for Beijing’s return to one of the ancient Silk Road nations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-to-welcome-the-taliban-back
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China is said to have a long term strategy but without friends it will fail. So far they've pissed off all their neighbors and many other countries around the globe. They've tipped their hand and exposed what their long term strategy is, and it isn't good for anyone. It's been amazing to see how stupidly they've used aggression against everyone, even Russia. This is not a winning strategy.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of how to use diplomacy to further their policies. In other words; they have no experience doing so. This applies to their military as well.

They have no experience waging a battle much less a war. And since each branch of their military must go through the central government to get instructions, they lack the capability of launching a multiprong attack that isn't planned out well in advance. In other words, successfully using a 3 dimensional approach to fighting.

I'm still waiting on a typhoon to wipe out their manufactured islands.

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Riots break out in China over covid restrictions.

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That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit.

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That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit.

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China logs nearly 13,000 Covid deaths in a week

https://news.yahoo.com/china-logs-nearly-13-000-094158640.html

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That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit.

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replacing China in so many ways

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The CIA says Xi Jinping ordered the Chinese military to invade Taiwan within four years

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-cia-says-xi-jinping-ordered-t
he-chinese-military-to-invade-taiwan-within-four-years/ar-AA189aKh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58af4b6160304e04b7d0d0b96f2e1d8e&ei=43

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A) I doubt it. The CIA also said that Saddam had WMD and was responsible for 9-11.

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Nope, not based on anything going on at the moment.

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Nope, not based on anything going on at the moment.

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