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India is notoriously corrupt when it comes to foreign companies. After China developed the cell phone mfgr infrastructure in India, India is trying to drive out companies like xiaomi and Huawei and take over their factories. Russia tried co-developing the then-PAK FA stealth jet, and India tried to steal the technology so Russia told them to piss off.

If India wants to continue making money by refining Russian oil and selling it to Europe, India is going to have to bend.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM: Friday, October 28, 2022 11:41 PM


SIGNYM

Here SIX, I thought you might find this interesting.

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China & Iraq Begin Construction Of New City Near Baghdad

On Friday Iraq broke ground on 30,000 housing units near Baghdad, as part of a $2 billion project in partnership with Chinese firms to build five new cities across Iraq, Bloomberg has reported.

The government of Prime Minister Mohammad Shia al-Sudani is seeking to build 250,000 to 300,000 housing units for poor and middle-class families. The new city on the outskirts of Baghdad will include universities, commercial centers, schools and health centers and should be completed in four to five years.
Aerial view of Baghdad, via Reuters

Contracts to build the housing units were awarded to East China Engineering Science and Technology Co., Ltd. and China National Chemical Engineering Co., Ltd along with their Iraqi partner Shams al-Binaa.

Contracts to build four more cities are expected to be awarded soon and another 10 will be announced next year, including in Karbala, Anbar, Nineveh and Babel governorates.

Chinese firms have increased their presence in Iraq in recent years, in part due to a deal between Baghdad and Beijing.

In 2019, Iraq signed a 20-year contract, agreeing to supply Chinese firms with 100,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil, with the revenue earmarked for funding various development projects in Iraq undertaken by Chinese firms.

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That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit.

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And here is China, still trying to find places for all of that excess productive capacity.
The problem is, who is going to protect these cities from US attack? Iraq? Hardly.

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China & Iraq Begin Construction Of New City Near Baghdad

On Friday Iraq broke ground on 30,000 housing units near Baghdad, as part of a $2 billion project in partnership with Chinese firms to build five new cities across Iraq, Bloomberg has reported.

The government of Prime Minister Mohammad Shia al-Sudani is seeking to build 250,000 to 300,000 housing units for poor and middle-class families. The new city on the outskirts of Baghdad will include universities, commercial centers, schools and health centers and should be completed in four to five years.
Aerial view of Baghdad, via Reuters

Contracts to build the housing units were awarded to East China Engineering Science and Technology Co., Ltd. and China National Chemical Engineering Co., Ltd along with their Iraqi partner Shams al-Binaa.

Contracts to build four more cities are expected to be awarded soon and another 10 will be announced next year, including in Karbala, Anbar, Nineveh and Babel governorates.

Chinese firms have increased their presence in Iraq in recent years, in part due to a deal between Baghdad and Beijing.

In 2019, Iraq signed a 20-year contract, agreeing to supply Chinese firms with 100,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil, with the revenue earmarked for funding various development projects in Iraq undertaken by Chinese firms.

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Originally posted by THG: Saturday, June 5, 2021 9:15 AM


THG

China to 'welcome the Taliban back' in bid to extend Belt and Road into Afghanistan

China plans to link Afghanistan to the Belt and Road Initiative as the withdrawal of NATO forces from the country clears the way for Beijing’s return to one of the ancient Silk Road nations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-to-welcome-the-taliban-back
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China is said to have a long term strategy but without friends it will fail. So far they've pissed off all their neighbors and many other countries around the globe. They've tipped their hand and exposed what their long term strategy is, and it isn't good for anyone. It's been amazing to see how stupidly they've used aggression against everyone, even Russia. This is not a winning strategy.

It shows a complete lack of understanding of how to use diplomacy to further their policies. In other words; they have no experience doing so. This applies to their military as well.

They have no experience waging a battle much less a war. And since each branch of their military must go through the central government to get instructions, they lack the capability of launching a multiprong attack that isn't planned out well in advance. In other words, successfully using a 3 dimensional approach to fighting.

I'm still waiting on a typhoon to wipe out their manufactured islands.

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I'm still waiting on a typhoon to wipe out their manufactured islands.

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THG your obsession with Trump and eating and vomiting stuff from Zeihan's anus makes you seem like a mental patient

Do you even watch the vids, look at what you post

So you still think Peter Zeihan knows all, and you parrot and keep spamming his BS, he knows all the Gay Lesbo bars and nightclubs on Earth, the expert geopolitical ANAL-yst and once in a while a Spook type gives him some numbers to swallow up and spit out

WTF you are still posting that degenerate homosexual with his Spook propaganda nonsense? Do you even watch those Yellow Peril stuff or that spooky George Friedman any of his Fu-Manchu vids?

Pay up your Reparations!
Listen and repeat the religion slogans of Austin-based Stratfor
Blame the Alt-Reich

Sam Brinton, the transexual diversity hire Open Border ass bandits like Pete Buttigieg are doing such a good job!

and because any second now, any week Chicom is collapsing

and Japan must be RAYCISS also?

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THG, you keep spamming these vids but more importantly ...fuckedup your pink font

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And here is China, still trying to find places for all of that excess productive capacity.
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And here is China, still trying to find places for all of that excess productive capacity.


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What Happened: China’s National Bureau of Statistics released official private sector activity readings for December on Sunday, revealing a worse-than-expected contraction in the manufacturing sector. The non-manufacturing sector barely expanded, with the corresponding purchasing managers’ index at 50.4, up from 50.2 in November.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/el-erian-warns-merely-adding-f
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Always wrong is wrong again.

Too funny...

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And here is China, still trying to find places for all of that excess productive capacity.

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What Happened: China’s National Bureau of Statistics released official private sector activity readings for December on Sunday, revealing a worse-than-expected contraction in the manufacturing sector. The non-manufacturing sector barely expanded, with the corresponding purchasing managers’ index at 50.4, up from 50.2 in November.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/el-erian-warns-merely-adding-f
uel-to-china-s-tired-growth-engine-won-t-bring-durable-prosperity-needs-deeper-reform/ar-AA1mlkbC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=933b97d278154dc387704b869fd6b642&ei=92

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Always wrong is wrong again.

Too funny...

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How is that wrong? China's Belt and Road - essentially a foreign infrastructure project- is supposed to take the place of western markets, internal infrastructure, housing speculative boom (ghost cities). A lot of people left their small rural farms and moved to the cities, and China is desperate to find jobs for everyone bc, unlike most western nations, China doesn't have a "safety net". Joblessness leads to restlessness and disruption.

I think China's leadership is stupid. Not for their ultimate goals ... a productive society and increased standard of living for everyone ... but for the way they go about it. They jump into Big Projects... the Three Gorges Dam, instant industrialization, BRI, dislocating people from their small farms to raise the standard of living, housing projects, etc. without seeing if it will work first, or having a fallback plan in case it doesn't.

China has made a lot of progress but they've made a lot of mistakes. They take unnecessary risks with things that are entirely under their control, but wimp out when it comes to foreign relations.

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And here is China, still trying to find places for all of that excess productive capacity.

THUGR:

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What Happened: China’s National Bureau of Statistics released official private sector activity readings for December on Sunday, revealing a worse-than-expected contraction in the manufacturing sector. The non-manufacturing sector barely expanded, with the corresponding purchasing managers’ index at 50.4, up from 50.2 in November.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/el-erian-warns-merely-adding-f
uel-to-china-s-tired-growth-engine-won-t-bring-durable-prosperity-needs-deeper-reform/ar-AA1mlkbC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=933b97d278154dc387704b869fd6b642&ei=92

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Always wrong is wrong again.

Too funny...

SIGNYM: How is that wrong? China's Belt and Road - essentially a foreign infrastructure project- is supposed to take the place of western markets, internal infrastructure, housing speculative boom (ghost cities). A lot of people left their small rural farms and moved to the cities, and China is desperate to find jobs for everyone bc, unlike most western nations, China doesn't have a "safety net". Joblessness leads to restlessness and disruption.

I think China's leadership is stupid. Not for their ultimate goals ... a productive society and increased standard of living for everyone ... but for the way they go about it. They jump into Big Projects... the Three Gorges Dam, instant industrialization, BRI, dislocating people from their small farms to raise the standard of living, housing projects, etc. without seeing if it will work first, or having a fallback plan in case it doesn't.

China has made a lot of progress but they've made a lot of mistakes. They take unnecessary risks with things that are entirely under their control, but wimp out when it comes to foreign relations.

THUGR: What you wrote implies a falsehood.
China has no excess of manufacturing to worry about.
What I posted came directly from
China’s National Bureau of Statistics.
And it states very clearly, China is suffering
a worse-than-expected contraction in the
manufacturing sector.

And there belt and road initiative
is failing miserably. The Chinese economy
is stating to free fall towards a total collapse.
Just like Russian comrade.

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Reality check for you THUGR:

How many nations has China invaded?
How many foreign elections has China determined?
How many foreign regime change operations has China completed?
How many nations has China sanctioned?

And, before you answer "Taiwan" to any of these questions, Taiwan is part of China, just as much as Texas is part of the USA.

I'll provide you with specific examples of China "bullying" nations later, if you bump this thread as a reminder.

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Everything Xi is doing today is eroding trust among Chinese and foreign entrepreneurs about what the rules of business are now inside China, while at the same time eroding trust abroad that China — having swallowed Hong Kong — won’t soon move on Taiwan, which could trigger a direct conflict with the U.S.

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The scandal resulted in Australia initiating a foreign agent register and a ban on foreign political donations.[6]

In 2018, Australia banned Chinese telecommunications companies Huawei and ZTE from providing 5G technology for new networks, citing security concerns

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Everything Xi is doing today is eroding trust among Chinese and foreign entrepreneurs about what the rules of business are now inside China, while at the same time eroding trust abroad that China — having swallowed Hong Kong — won’t soon move on Taiwan, which could trigger a direct conflict with the U.S.

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China doesn't need foreign entrepreneurs anymore, having built up its industry. What it needs are customers.

It doesn't want to create internal oligarchs either.

Hong Kong and Taiwan ARE PART OF CHINA, as much as New York city and Texas are part if the USA. Writing about China "swallowing" Hong Kong is like writing about the USA "swallowing NYC" and writing about China "moving on" Taiwan is like writing about the USA "moving on" Texas.

That first paragraph alone tell me that Friedman is either an IDIOT or a LIAR.


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THUGR: Everything Xi is doing today is eroding trust among Chinese and foreign entrepreneurs about what the rules of business are now inside China, while at the same time eroding trust abroad that China — having swallowed Hong Kong — won’t soon move on Taiwan, which could trigger a direct conflict with the U.S.

SIGNY: China doesn't need foreign entrepreneurs anymore, having built up its industry. What it needs are customers.

It doesn't want to create internal oligarchs either.

Hong Kong and Taiwan ARE PART OF CHINA, as much as New York city and Texas are part if the USA. Writing about China "swallowing" Hong Kong is like writing about the USA "swallowing NYC" and writing about China "moving on" Taiwan is like writing about the USA "moving on" Texas.

That first paragraph alone tell me that Friedman is either an IDIOT or a LIAR.

THUGR: Watch the video moron. I'll answer your post with this. China's work force is too small.

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THUGR: Remember all the years of their one child policy. Most of its population is old. Thats only one of its problems. Watch the video. Then tell me what you disagree with. All I see you posting are word salads. Clueless word salads.

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If you watch the video, you will learn how China cannot project its navy much further out than Tiawan. So, if they invade Tiawan, because they import 80% or more of everything they need, food and energy to name two things, we will set up an embargo where China cannot reach blocking goods from getting in. China will quickly collapse.

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signym: Everything Xi is doing today is eroding trust among Chinese and foreign entrepreneurs about what the rules of business are now inside China, while at the same time eroding trust abroad that China — having swallowed Hong Kong — won’t soon move on Taiwan, which could trigger a direct conflict with the U.S.

SIGNY: China doesn't need foreign entrepreneurs anymore, having built up its industry. What it needs are customers.

It doesn't want to create internal oligarchs either.

Hong Kong and Taiwan ARE PART OF CHINA, as much as New York city and Texas are part if the USA. Writing about China "swallowing" Hong Kong is like writing about the USA "swallowing NYC" and writing about China "moving on" Taiwan is like writing about the USA "moving on" Texas.

That first paragraph alone tell me that Friedman is either an IDIOT or a LIAR.

THUGR: Watch the video moron. I'll answer your post with this. China's work force is too small.

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And yet, "they say":that China has an unemployment problem. That means no matter how small China's population, they still have excess labor pool. Seems like "they" can't make up their minds how to criticize China!

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THUGR: Remember all the years of their one child policy. Most of its population is old. Thats only one of its problems. Watch the video. Then tell me what you disagree with. All I see you posting are word salads. Clueless word salads.

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I consider your sources to be posting word garbage.

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If you watch the video, you will learn how China cannot project its navy much further out than Tiawan. So, if they invade Tiawan, because they import 80% or more of everything they need, food and energy to name two things, we will set up an embargo where China cannot reach blocking goods from getting in. China will quickly collapse.

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CHINA CAN'T "INVADE" TAIWAN, NUMBSKULL! TAIWAN IS NOT A NATION, IT IS PART OF CHINA! THAT WOULD BE LIKE SAYING THE USA "INVADED" TEXAS. BOTH YOU AND YOUR "SOURCES" PERSIST WITH THIS DELUSION. PLEASE NEVER REFER TO THIS AGAIN!

AFA "blockading" China to punish this non-existent "invasion" you keep yapping about ... China is working very hard to establish invulnerable or less vulnerable trade routes. That is why China has established and is establishing overland trade with Russia, Iran etc.

You haven't yet provided an example of China invading and occupying another nation, overthrowing a government, or bullying neighbors. There are examples, you just don't know about them bc you're focused on fake issues.



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Everything Xi is doing today is eroding trust among Chinese and foreign entrepreneurs about what the rules of business are now inside China, while at the same time eroding trust abroad that China — having swallowed Hong Kong — won’t soon move on Taiwan, which could trigger a direct conflict with the U.S.

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China doesn't need foreign entrepreneurs anymore, having built up its industry. What it needs are customers.

It doesn't want to create internal oligarchs either.

Hong Kong and Taiwan ARE PART OF CHINA, as much as New York city and Texas are part if the USA. Writing about China "swallowing" Hong Kong is like writing about the USA "swallowing NYC" and writing about China "moving on" Taiwan is like writing about the USA "moving on" Texas.

That first paragraph alone tell me that Friedman is either an IDIOT or a LIAR.


Australian sanctions on China began in 2018

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Trade relations certainly didn't improve with the signing of AUKUS in 2021, and Australia's agreement to essentially host American nuclear subs.

https://www.defense.gov/Spotlights/AUKUS/

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Yes, yes, I understand all that. I read about that years ago. "Local authorities" don't have the power to tax. All tax revenues go to the central government, which does NOT revenue share. So in order to raise funds ... which the local authorities can skim... local governments sell a crapton of bonds for infrastructural projects which are often overbuilt.

China has a debt problem, but it is an INTERNAL debt problem.

There is also the shadow banking system which extends loans at extortionate rates.

I don't know wby you keep harping on China. I'm not a big fan, I'm not defending China, and that video you love so much? The first thing the guy says is

CHINA IS NOT A THREAT TO US.


China's problems are China's problems, and their system couldn't be emulated here even if we wanted to bc it depends on Chinese culture.

So, what's your point?

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Yes, yes, I understand all that. I read about that years ago. "Local authorities" don't have the power to tax. All tax revenues go to the central government, which does NOT revenue share. So in order to raise funds ... which the local authorities can skim... local governments sell a crapton of bonds for infrastructural projects which are often overbuilt.

China has a debt problem, but it is an INTERNAL debt problem.

There is also the shadow banking system which extends loans at extortionate rates.

I don't know wby you keep harping on China. I'm not a big fan, I'm not defending China, and that video you love so much? The first thing the guy says is

CHINA IS NOT A THREAT TO US.


China's problems are China's problems, and their system couldn't be emulated here even if we wanted to bc it depends on Chinese culture.

So, what's your point?

THUGR::My point is you are singing another tune now.

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China has made remarkable progress. It's lifted 800,000 people out of poverty in 10-15 years.

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THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.

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THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.

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Well, assuming you're correct, what we should plan on depends on HOW China's failure affects us.

So, what's YOUR advice?

Push China over the edge by invading Taiwan?
Support China so it doesn't fail?
Decouple from China so its failure doesn't affect us economically?

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THUGR: And your advice is to stop worring about China. What happens in China affects the rest of the world stupid.

SIGNY: Well, assuming you're correct, what we should plan on depends on HOW China's failure affects us.

So, what's YOUR advice?

Push China over the edge by invading Taiwan?
Support China so it doesn't fail?
Decouple from China so its failure doesn't affect us economically?

THUGR: Decouple, but what he mentions in the video is not the only reason to do so.

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If that's the case, why bother to go to war with China over Taiwan? The problem will take care of itself.
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The narrator makes a few critical mistakes:

China can't "invade" Taiwan when everyone agrees, by international treaty, that Taiwan is part of China.

Being a part of China, TAIWAN HAS NO INDEPENDENT "TERRITORIAL WATERS".

China has no interest in using force against Taiwan unless Taiwan mounts an armed rebellion. Aided and abetted by the west. In that case, China would be within its rights to claim territorial defense, and it would be western forces that would be judged aggressor.

The FICTION that Taiwan is an independent nation is pushed relentlessly by the west. Since the video persisted in that fiction, I stopped listening about 5 minutes in bc it is based on a false premise.

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