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Elections; 2024

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 3:54 PM

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Iran resumed making the nuclear fuel shortly after the Trump unilaterally withdrew from the accord in 2018.

Is anyone ever going to hold Trump to account over this? Trump canceled the nuclear deal for no better reason than his juvenile desire to undo anything that Obama had put in place. The result was a resumption of Iran's uranium processing and its probable ability to build a nuclear weapon.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/06/19/iran-nucle
ar-enrichment-fordow
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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 3:58 PM

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Iran thanks Reagan

it has been singing that 'Death to America' song, playing those Death to Israel tunes, Deaths to British, Deaths to Infidels wailing mosque-rat noises and other jihadist nonsense for years, it cares little about little Bush or her highness Clinton or Obama or Trump or Biden or whatever islamo-ass kissing fool is in power

in defense of Trump he at least saw a threat of the islamist and he did not kiss islamic ass as much as others did.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 4:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


8 days until Debate Night.

Tick Tock



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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 6:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
8 days until Debate Night.

Tick Tock

Smart campaigns manage expectations to a reasonable level that allows them to declare victory no matter what happens. The Trump campaign and his allies in conservative media set expectations so low for President Joe Biden that he will win next week’s debate so long as he is still alive and hasn’t soiled himself by the end of it.

During the 2000 election, Democrats were focused like a laser on convincing the American public that then Texas Governor George W. Bush was a moron, just lucky that breathing is reflexive, lest he forget to do it and suffocate right there on the debate stage.

That was the context for that year’s presidential debates — some idiot versus Al Gore. But a funny thing happened. Bush didn’t drown in his own saliva, and Gore didn’t come off like anything special. Therefore, Bush won the debates because the expectations game had been so horribly managed by Democrats.

Republicans mock Biden for his senility, but it also lowers the bar for debate performance. It also raises the bar for Trump. How could he fail to absolutely destroy a senile, doddering old man in a debate?

It’s time for Republicans to be aware of this and, at a minimum, set the bar a little bit higher for Biden. As of now, he can get himself declared the winner if he can just give answers (they don’t have to make complete sense) to all the questions, no matter their quality. Victory for Biden only requires his still being awake at the end.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4727587-trump-risks-losing-next-w
eeks-debate-before-it-even-happens
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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 7:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
8 days until Debate Night.

Tick Tock

Smart campaigns manage expectations to a reasonable level that allows them to declare victory no matter what happens. The Trump campaign and his allies in conservative media set expectations so low for President Joe Biden that he will win next week’s debate so long as he is still alive and hasn’t soiled himself by the end of it.

During the 2000 election, Democrats were focused like a laser on convincing the American public that then Texas Governor George W. Bush was a moron, just lucky that breathing is reflexive, lest he forget to do it and suffocate right there on the debate stage.

That was the context for that year’s presidential debates — some idiot versus Al Gore. But a funny thing happened. Bush didn’t drown in his own saliva, and Gore didn’t come off like anything special. Therefore, Bush won the debates because the expectations game had been so horribly managed by Democrats.

Republicans mock Biden for his senility, but it also lowers the bar for debate performance. It also raises the bar for Trump. How could he fail to absolutely destroy a senile, doddering old man in a debate?

It’s time for Republicans to be aware of this and, at a minimum, set the bar a little bit higher for Biden. As of now, he can get himself declared the winner if he can just give answers (they don’t have to make complete sense) to all the questions, no matter their quality. Victory for Biden only requires his still being awake at the end.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4727587-trump-risks-losing-next-w
eeks-debate-before-it-even-happens
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Oh...

Make no mistake. We fully expect the Legacy Media to declare Joe Biden* the winner even if he shit himself on stage and left a trail of diarrhea all over it as he Roomba'd his way off stage.

The people don't believe anything the Media has to say in 2024. They're not going to start believing it when Joe* gets spanked.



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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 8:12 PM

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Trump is being prosecuted because . . . he broke a lot of laws

In the Wall Street Journal today, former judge Michael McConnell tries to explain to us Democrats why Republicans are sticking with Donald Trump despite all the court cases against him.

First he argues that the New York hush money case was bogus. Fair enough. It's an arguable point. But he also says this:
Quote:

Many Republicans who condemned his part in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol and thought he should have been impeached and convicted for it now consider the legal crusade against Mr. Trump to be as threatening to democracy as what happened that day. Democrats need to understand why.
This is odd. McConnell says lots of Republicans think Trump should have been convicted for his role in the January 6 insurrection, but later on he dismisses as "lawfare" the current federal case against Trump for his part in January 6. Why?

And it gets worse. Even McConnell has to admit that the classified documents case is sound:
Quote:

But here too, the odor of selective prosecution is hard to escape. Not only did Mrs. Clinton mishandle classified documents, so did Mr. Biden. In fact, he shared them with a ghostwriter after leaving the vice presidency. Special counsel Robert Hur determined that Mr. Biden’s actions were “willful” but declined to prosecute.

....Bottom line: Both candidates for president appear to have violated the same law; the one in power is excused and his opponent faces trial.

This is the worst sort of deception. Trump is not being prosecuted for "mishandling" classified documents and McConnell knows it. As usual in Journal op-eds, what's important is what's left out.

Clinton and Biden both mishandled a small number of unimportant documents and cooperated completely with investigators. By contrast, Trump is being prosecuted because he took highly classified documents; he took lots of them; he refused to return them; he ignored subpoenas; and he aggressively tried to hide them even from an FBI search. McConnell knows this. So do the Journal's editorial page editors.

But they don't care. For the good of the cause, this all has to be forced into a narrative of "Democratic lawfare" instead of acknowledging it as the entirely predictable result of a president who happens to be a serious serial lawbreaker. I'm not sure why this has to be repeatedly explained to Republicans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 8:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Oh...

Make no mistake. We fully expect the Legacy Media to declare Joe Biden* the winner even if he shit himself on stage and left a trail of diarrhea all over it as he Roomba'd his way off stage.

The people don't believe anything the Media has to say in 2024. They're not going to start believing it when Joe* gets spanked.

The debate will be on youtube. You don't have to take the media's word for who won, but then you don't see what I see. Trump is a fat, dumb, lying, incompetent bastard, much like all the Trumptards I know. They don't see themselves as who they are which is why they cannot understand the reasons for them being unsuccessful Americans. If they saw themselves as the stupid assholes they truly are then the reasons they fail at life become obvious and they no longer need to blame the Democrats for the Trumptards' failing to thrive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 9:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Oh...

Make no mistake. We fully expect the Legacy Media to declare Joe Biden* the winner even if he shit himself on stage and left a trail of diarrhea all over it as he Roomba'd his way off stage.

The people don't believe anything the Media has to say in 2024. They're not going to start believing it when Joe* gets spanked.

The debate will be on youtube. You don't have to take the media's word for who won, but then you don't see what I see. Trump is a fat, dumb, lying, incompetent bastard, much like all the Trumptards I know. They don't see themselves as who they are which is why they cannot understand the reasons for them being unsuccessful Americans. If they saw themselves as the stupid assholes they truly are then the reasons they fail at life become obvious and they no longer need to blame the Democrats for the Trumptards' failing to thrive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Get fucked moron. Your opinion means nothing to nobody.

Meanwhile, Joe has 8 days left before the humiliation takes place.

If it looks like the Media doesn't want him running now, just wait until the morning of the 28th.



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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 9:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump is being prosecuted because . . . he broke a lot of laws

In the Wall Street Journal today, former judge Michael McConnell tries to explain to us Democrats why Republicans are sticking with Donald Trump despite all the court cases against him.

First he argues that the New York hush money case was bogus. Fair enough. It's an arguable point. But he also says this:
Quote:

Many Republicans who condemned his part in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol and thought he should have been impeached and convicted for it now consider the legal crusade against Mr. Trump to be as threatening to democracy as what happened that day. Democrats need to understand why.
This is odd. McConnell says lots of Republicans think Trump should have been convicted for his role in the January 6 insurrection, but later on he dismisses as "lawfare" the current federal case against Trump for his part in January 6. Why?

And it gets worse. Even McConnell has to admit that the classified documents case is sound:
Quote:

But here too, the odor of selective prosecution is hard to escape. Not only did Mrs. Clinton mishandle classified documents, so did Mr. Biden. In fact, he shared them with a ghostwriter after leaving the vice presidency. Special counsel Robert Hur determined that Mr. Biden’s actions were “willful” but declined to prosecute.

....Bottom line: Both candidates for president appear to have violated the same law; the one in power is excused and his opponent faces trial.

This is the worst sort of deception. Trump is not being prosecuted for "mishandling" classified documents and McConnell knows it. As usual in Journal op-eds, what's important is what's left out.

Clinton and Biden both mishandled a small number of unimportant documents and cooperated completely with investigators. By contrast, Trump is being prosecuted because he took highly classified documents; he took lots of them; he refused to return them; he ignored subpoenas; and he aggressively tried to hide them even from an FBI search. McConnell knows this. So do the Journal's editorial page editors.

But they don't care. For the good of the cause, this all has to be forced into a narrative of "Democratic lawfare" instead of acknowledging it as the entirely predictable result of a president who happens to be a serious serial lawbreaker. I'm not sure why this has to be repeatedly explained to Republicans.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Stealing more idiotic opinions from Kevin Drum and passing them off as your own again today I see...

https://jabberwocking.com/trump-is-being-prosecuted-because-he-broke-a
-lot-of-laws
/


Are you Kevin Drum, or are you just another really stupid person that isn't Kevin Drum?

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Wednesday, June 19, 2024 11:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Vox: Biden’s ads haven’t been working. Now, he’s trying something new.

The president has been massively outspending Donald Trump on the airwaves and still losing.

https://www.vox.com/politics/355756/joe-biden-campaign-ad-trump-convic
ted-criminal


Quote:

President Joe Biden’s odds of reelection may be worse than they look. And they don’t look great.


Indeed.



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Thursday, June 20, 2024 8:21 AM

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Trump “said there was world peace in 2020. There was very much not. He said he won Wisconsin in 2020; he lost. He said the Democrats rigged the 2020 election, a lie. He said people around President Biden cheat on elections, no. He said people’s votes tend to disappear; they simply do not.”

Although Trump claimed to have “saved” Kenosha in 2020 from riots following the shooting of Jacob Blake, it was actually Democratic Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers who sent the national guard to the city, before Trump ever told him to.

Trump breathlessly repeated invented numbers about immigration, the crime rates in Venezuela, and the number of people who have crossed the Southern border. He attempted to rewrite history by spinning lies about his previous term as president, imagining that he pulled American troops out of Syria and lowered the trade deficit with China. He even lied about what he did last week, telling the crowd that he was in D.C. for one of his many trials, when he was really there to meet with Republican lawmakers.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1803257380437893307

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 8:31 AM

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Mark Cuban's Donald Trump Comment Takes Off Online

Jun 19, 2024 at 12:39 PM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-cuban-donald-trump-why-do-you-hate-him-x
-twitter-1914852


Comparing Trump to Biden, Cuban said: "It's the snake oil salesperson vs the incumbent, traditional politician."

"One will tell you his snake oil will cure everything that ails you. The other will show you the details of his policies through charts, graphs and statements."

Praising Biden as "precise and methodical," Cuban said that Trump voters "are happy with their snake oil whether it works or not."

In an interview with USA Today in 2020, the entrepreneur didn't hold back, calling Trump an "idiot" over his approach to running the country. "Look, personally I don't have a problem with the guy," Cuban said. "Now professionally, as the president, I think he's an idiot. You know, I never thought he was smart in talking to him."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 9:05 AM

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The Insurrection Act is a nuclear bomb hidden in the United States code, giving presidents unimaginable emergency power. No President has abused it. Yet.

By Joseph Nunn from Summer 2024, No. 73

https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/73/the-most-dangerous-law-in-ame
rica
/

The Insurrection Act is a nuclear bomb hidden in the United States Code. Enacted in the early years of this country’s existence, it was subsequently modified several times, as Congress greatly expanded the President’s powers under the law during the bloody tumult of the Civil War and Reconstruction. It has largely been ignored ever since. But today, the law has garnered renewed attention and raised concerns in many quarters for a reason that should echo ominously this election year: It gives the President virtually limitless discretion to use the military as a domestic police force.

There is no reason to assume that good fortune and presidential self-restraint will continue to prevent abuse of the Insurrection Act. Congress has ignored the law for 150 years, all while the country and its needs have changed dramatically.

An oblique reference to Trump: In the current political climate, where threatening political opponents and questioning the integrity of elections has become normalized, continuing to turn a blind eye ultimately endangers the United States’s future as a republic ruled by law.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 2:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Insurrection Act is a nuclear bomb hidden in the United States code, giving presidents unimaginable emergency power. No President has abused it. Yet.

By Joseph Nunn from Summer 2024, No. 73

https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/73/the-most-dangerous-law-in-ame
rica
/

The Insurrection Act is a nuclear bomb hidden in the United States Code. Enacted in the early years of this country’s existence, it was subsequently modified several times, as Congress greatly expanded the President’s powers under the law during the bloody tumult of the Civil War and Reconstruction. It has largely been ignored ever since. But today, the law has garnered renewed attention and raised concerns in many quarters for a reason that should echo ominously this election year: It gives the President virtually limitless discretion to use the military as a domestic police force.

There is no reason to assume that good fortune and presidential self-restraint will continue to prevent abuse of the Insurrection Act. Congress has ignored the law for 150 years, all while the country and its needs have changed dramatically.

An oblique reference to Trump: In the current political climate, where threatening political opponents and questioning the integrity of elections has become normalized, continuing to turn a blind eye ultimately endangers the United States’s future as a republic ruled by law.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Never abused yet, huh?

There's a whole lot of people who are political prisoners of the Democratic party today.

They will be released when Trump is elected.

Tick Tock

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 4:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Never abused yet, huh?

There's a whole lot of people who are political prisoners of the Democratic party today.

They will be released when Trump is elected.

Tick Tock

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6ixStringJack, do you have moments when you realize you are crazy? Then you discount those moments? Trump does. He went crazy from November 14, 2020, through January 20, 2021. But he did not suddenly become sane and normal once he was out of office:

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-08-01/read-ful
l-text-of-donald-trumps-indictment-in-2020-election-probe-case


UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant.

VIOLATIONS:
Count 1: 18 U.S.C. §371 (Conspiracy to Defraud the United States)
Count 2: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k) (Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 3: 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2 (Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)
Count 4: 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights)

INDICTMENT

The Grand Jury charges that, at all times material to this Indictment, on or about the dates and at the approximate times stated below:

INTRODUCTION

1. The Defendant, DONALD J. TRUMP, was the forty-fifth President of the United States and a candidate for re-election in 2020. The Defendant lost the 2020 presidential election.

2. Despite having lost, the Defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the Defendant spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false. But the Defendant repeated and widely disseminated them anyway—to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election.

3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful.

4. Shortly after election day, the Defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. In so doing, the Defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies:

a. A conspiracy to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §371;

b. A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election arc counted and certified (“the certification proceeding”), in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k); and

c. A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one’s vote counted, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241.

Each of these conspiracies—which built on the widespread mistrust the Defendant was creating through pervasive and destabilizing lies about election fraud—targeted a bedrock function of the
United States federal government: the nation’s process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election (“the federal government function”).

5. The allegations contained in paragraphs 1 through 4 of this Indictment are realleged and fully incorporated here by reference.

The Conspiracy

6. From on or about November 14, 2020, through on or about January 20, 2021, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the Defendant,
DONALD J. TRUMP,
did knowingly combine, conspire, confederate, and agree with co-conspirators, known and unknown to the Grand Jury, to defraud the United States by using dishonesty, fraud, and deceit to impair, obstruct, and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified by the federal government.

Purpose of the Conspiracy

7. The purpose of the conspiracy was to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election by using knowingly false claims of election fraud to obstruct the federal government function by which those results are collected, counted, and certified.

More at https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-08-01/read-ful
l-text-of-donald-trumps-indictment-in-2020-election-probe-case


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 4:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You're so full of shit dude.

Debate night is a week away.

Tick Tock



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Thursday, June 20, 2024 6:29 PM

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T

Professor Gerdes Republican; Explains


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Thursday, June 20, 2024 6:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Boy oh boy! Peter Zeihan just predicted the election!

I don't even need a spoiler alert to see who he picked.

*yawn*


Why are you so far up this idiot's asshole, Ted?

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 6:51 PM

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You obviously didn't listen to the Republican break it down, no matter.

tick tock

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 8:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
You obviously didn't listen to the Republican break it down, no matter.

tick tock

T









I don't listen to Republicans because FUCK REPUBLICANS.


The numbers don't lie.

Speaking of numbers, Joe Biden* hasn't had good polling numbers ever since Trump came out
in front in September of last year.

I thought the sham court case was going to fix that?

Guess not, huh?

Can't wait for debate night. Only one week now.

Tick Tock

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 10:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Joe Biden* will be spending the week at Camp David to cram for the debate.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/politics/debate-biden-trump-preparation
s-president/index.html


I'm sure they'll be feeding aborted baby blood into his veins through dialysis. Probably give him an upgrade or two while he's there. Maybe an invisible mic to feed him his responses that will be impossible to find since it will be inside of him.

The best part is he'll forget all about it the next day and people can have a lot of fun for the rest of Joe*'s life, making him hear voices. Don't be surprised if you read about him in the future telling everybody that he has regular conversations with god.


Seriously, Joe*. The White House isn't good enough for you? Maybe an Air B&B in Scranton?

What do you need to spend the next 7 days at Camp David for?

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Thursday, June 20, 2024 11:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ill bet he's being juiced up pretty good.


Yanno, I'm pretty sure that, not even too deep down, THUGR, SECOND, and that nutty 30% of adults realize what they're seeing is elder abuse. But they're OK with it bc they're thinking

"Joe may be a meat puppet with the IQ of a Popsicle stick, but he's OUR meat puppet“

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Friday, June 21, 2024 12:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're so full of shit dude.

Debate night is a week away.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Trump's criminal indictment for Fraud mentioned that:

The Defendant’s Attempts to Enlist the Vice President to Fraudulently Alter the Election Results at the January 6 Certification Proceeding

86. As the January 6 congressional certification proceeding approached and other efforts to impair, obstruct, and defeat the federal government function failed, the Defendant sought to enlist the Vice President to use his ceremonial role at the certification to fraudulently alter the election results. The Defendant did this first by using knowingly false claims of election fraud to convince the Vice President to accept the Defendant’s fraudulent electors, reject legitimate electoral votes, or send legitimate electoral votes to state legislatures for review rather than count them. When that failed, the Defendant attempted to use a crowd of supporters that he had gathered in Washington, D.C., to pressure the Vice President to fraudulently alter the election results.

87. On December 19, 2020, after cultivating widespread anger and resentment for weeks with his knowingly false claims of election fraud, the Defendant urged his supporters to travel to Washington on the day of the certification proceeding, tweeting, “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!” Throughout late December, he repeatedly urged his supporters to come to Washington for January 6.

88. On December 23, the Defendant re-tweeted a memo titled “Operation ‘PENCE’ CARD,” which falsely asserted that the Vice President could, among other things, unilaterally disqualify legitimate electors from six targeted states.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-08-01/read-ful
l-text-of-donald-trumps-indictment-in-2020-election-probe-case


When the Supreme Court rules that Trump does not have immunity to assassinate political rivals, as Trump claims he can, this case will be presented to a jury which will convict Trump for fraud.

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're so full of shit dude.

Debate night is a week away.

Tick Tock



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Trump's criminal indictment for Fraud mentioned that:

The Defendant’s Attempts to Enlist the Vice President to Fraudulently Alter the Election Results at the January 6 Certification Proceeding



I'm sure it did.

Nobody cares. That's why the only way you're not going to have to endure Trump 2.0 come election night is if you follow through with your Hunger Game fantasies.



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I'm sure it did.

Nobody cares. That's why the only way you're not going to have to endure Trump 2.0 come election night is if you follow through with your Hunger Game fantasies.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Trump famously remarked that he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and he "wouldn't lose any voters."

At the Supreme Court, the remark was that Trump could order SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival and he would be immune from criminal prosecution.

Trump knows what his people will allow him to do.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/10/trump-immunity-hearing-court-case-5th
-avenue-quote


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United States Of America v.
Donald J. Trump, Waltine Nauta, and Carlos De Oliveira,
Defendants.

The Purpose of the Conspiracy

96. The purpose of the conspiracy was for TRUMP to keep classified documents he had taken with him from the White House and to hide and conceal them from a federal grand jury.

The Manner and Means of the Conspiracy

97. The manner and means by which the defendants sought to accomplish the objects and purpose of the conspiracy included, among other things, the following:

a. Suggesting that Trump Attorney 1 falsely represent to the FBI and grand jury that TRUMP did not have documents called for by the May 11 Subpoena;

b. moving boxes of documents to conceal them from Trump Attorney 1, the FBI, and the grand jury;

c. suggesting that Trump Attorney 1 hide or destroy documents called for by the May 11 Subpoena;

d. providing to the FBI and grand jury just some of the documents called for by the May 11 Subpoena, while TRUMP claimed he was cooperating fully;

e. causing a false certification to be submitted to the FBI and grand jury representing that all documents with classification markings had been produced, when in fact they had not;

f. making false and misleading statements to the FBI; and

g. attempting to delete security camera footage from The Mar-a-Lago Club to conceal the footage from the FBI and grand jury.

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1512(k).

98. The General Allegations of this Superseding Indictment are re-alleged and fully incorporated here by reference.

99. From on or about May 11, 2022, through in or around August 2022, in Palm Beach County, in the Southern District of Florida, and elsewhere, the defendants,
DONALD J. TRUMP and
WALTINE NAUTA,
did knowingly engage in misleading conduct toward another person, and knowingly corruptly persuade and attempt to persuade another person, with intent to cause and induce any person to withhold a record, document, and other object from an official proceeding; that is—(1) TRUMP attempted to persuade Trump Attorney 1 to hide and conceal documents from a federal grand jury; and (2) TRUMP and NAUTA misled Trump Attorney 1 by moving boxes that contained documents with classification markings so that Trump Attorney 1 would not find the documents and produce them to a federal grand jury.

All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1512(b)(2)(A) and 2.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.
pdf


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Never back down: Rich and powerful exploit post-shame society

By Zachary Basu | Jun 18, 2024

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/18/trump-gop-scotus-musk-shame

America is reaching the pinnacle of a post-shame society forged by Donald Trump and reinforced by powerful patrons.

The big picture: While he may represent the most extreme example, Trump isn't the only one who has realized a lack of shame can be a crucial survival skill.

• Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas failed to disclose years of expensive private travel gifted by GOP megadonor Harlan Crow, even after recently amending his 2019 financial disclosure.

• Justice Samuel Alito refused to recuse himself from Jan. 6-related cases after acknowledging that his wife flew an upside-down flag — a symbol carried by pro-Trump rioters — outside of their home.

• Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) are both running for re-election despite being indicted on bribery charges.

• Serial fabulist Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) clung to his seat so long that he became just the sixth person in U.S. history to be expelled from the House.

• Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) lost her committee assignments in 2021 over her endorsement of baseless conspiracy theories, but became one of MAGA's most influential voices when the GOP won the House.

• George Norcross, a titan of Democratic politics in New Jersey, defiantly sat in the front row Monday as prosecutors unveiled a sweeping indictment accusing him of running a decade-long criminal enterprise.

Zoom in: Trump has long defied the conventional laws of politics, surviving countless controversies by lashing out at his opponents, undermining the press and painting himself as a victim.

• Now, no matter what trouble he gets himself into, hardly anyone in the GOP utters a word of criticism.

Yes, but: The Trump playbook shows that for some people at the apex of American power, every scandal you survive makes the next one a bit less damaging.

The bottom line: If Watergate happened in 2024, there's every chance Nixon would have hung in there. Nixon resigned in shame before ever being charged with a crime.

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Ian Simmons in Forbes: Why Extending Trump’s Tax Cuts Should Concern Long-Term Investors

. . . That Trump wants to extend his 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) should come as no surprise. . . . But the TCJA dramatically increased the national debt and was arguably a senseless giveaway to foreign investors, a topic I wrote about in March. Another one of the law’s troubling elements was a new deduction for owners of so-called pass-through businesses. The provision was 50 times more likely to help the top 1% of earners . . . than those in the bottom 50% . . .

. . . Tax cuts for billionaires are a bad deal for the vast majority of investors.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/iansimmons/2024/06/20/extending-trumps-ta
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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I'm sure it did.

Nobody cares. That's why the only way you're not going to have to endure Trump 2.0 come election night is if you follow through with your Hunger Game fantasies.



Tick Tock

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Trump famously remarked that he could "stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody" and he "wouldn't lose any voters."

At the Supreme Court, the remark was that Trump could order SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival and he would be immune from criminal prosecution.

Trump knows what his people will allow him to do.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/10/trump-immunity-hearing-court-case-5th
-avenue-quote


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Lying and projecting again.

I see you have nothing better to do with your day but freak out, as per usual.

Carry on...

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Lying and projecting again.

I see you have nothing better to do with your day but freak out, as per usual.

Carry on...

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6ix, your signature: Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President. indicates you do not absorb new data. Trump has only a 50% chance of being the next President, but your signature presumes it is a 100% certainty. You don't digest simple ideas, 6ix. That's a stereotypical weakness causing widespread havoc in Trumptards' lives when they think about the chances of smoking causing cancer or adultery causing divorce or borrowing causing bankruptcy or lying to the FBI causing criminal indictment. Trumptards don't understand how these misfortunes keep happening to them, but they should because it keeps happening, keeps hammering them until they either understand the simple things or else those things destroy them.

Who Is Favored To Win The 2024 Presidential Election?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

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Trump Appointed Judge in Trump Documents Case Rejected Suggestions to Step Aside

By Charlie Savage, Alan Feuer | June 20, 2024

Two federal judges in South Florida privately urged Aileen M. Cannon to decline the case when it was assigned to her last year, according to two people briefed on the matter. She chose to keep it.

Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s assignment to handle former President Donald J. Trump’s case raised eyebrows because she has scant trial experience and had shown unusual favor to Mr. Trump.

Shortly after Judge Aileen M. Cannon drew the assignment in June 2023 to oversee former President Donald J. Trump’s classified documents case, two more experienced colleagues on the federal bench in Florida urged her to pass it up and hand it off to another jurist, according to two people briefed on the conversations.

The judges who approached Judge Cannon — including the chief judge in the Southern District of Florida, Cecilia M. Altonaga — each asked her to consider whether it would be better if she were to decline the high-profile case, allowing it to go to another judge, the two people said.

But Judge Cannon, who was appointed by Mr. Trump, wanted to keep the case and refused the judges’ entreaties. Her assignment drew attention because she has scant trial experience and had previously shown unusual favor to Mr. Trump by intervening in a way that helped him in the criminal investigation that led to his indictment, only to be reversed in a sharply critical rebuke by a conservative appeals court panel.

The extraordinary and previously undisclosed effort by Judge Cannon’s colleagues to persuade her to step aside adds another dimension to the increasing criticism of how she has gone on to handle the case.

She has broken, according to lawyers who operate there, with a general practice of federal judges in the Southern District of Florida of delegating some pretrial motions to a magistrate judge — in this instance, Judge Bruce E. Reinhart. While he is subordinate to her, Judge Reinhart is an older and much more experienced jurist. In 2022, he was the one who signed off on an F.B.I. warrant to search Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s club and residence in Florida, for highly sensitive government files that Mr. Trump kept after leaving office.

Since then, Judge Cannon has exhibited hostility to prosecutors, handled pretrial motions slowly and indefinitely postponed the trial, declining to set a date for it to begin even though both the prosecution and the defense had told her they could be ready to start this summer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/20/us/politics/aileen-cannon-trump-cla
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Romney stays the course on whether he supports Trump for president: 'It's a matter of personal character'

By Greg Wehner Fox News | June 20, 2024 5:17pm EDT

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/romney-stays-course-whether-supports-
trump-president-matter-personal-character


"With President Trump, it’s a matter of personal character," the Utah senator said. "I draw a line and say when someone has been actually found to have been sexually assaulted, that’s something I just won’t cross over in the person I wouldn't want to have as president of the United States."

Romney was referring to a federal jury’s decision in New York City last year, which ruled Trump was liable for sexual abuse and defamation.

Trump, the 2024 GOP presidential front-runner, has repeatedly denied the allegations. His denial resulted in Carroll slapping Trump with a defamation lawsuit, claiming his response caused harm to her reputation.

The jury found Carroll was injured as a result of statements Trump made while in the White House in June 2019.

The jury awarded Carroll $7.3 million in compensatory damages, other than the reputational repair program, and $11 million in damages for the reputational repair program.

The jury found Trump’s statements were made to harm Carroll and awarded her $65 million in punitive damages. In total, the jury said Carroll should be paid $83.3 million.

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DNC’s Zoom nomination plans forge ahead amid talk of ditching Biden

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/19/dncs-zoom-nomination-
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Democrats are planning the virtual nod for Mr. Biden amid reports about behind-the-scenes panic among top Democrats and schemes to substitute a younger, more viable candidate who stands a better chance of defeating former President Donald Trump.

Nate Silver, who aggregates and analyzes election polls, noted that Mr. Biden’s approval rating this month declined to 37.4%, an all-time low for the president.

“Dropping out would be a big risk,” Mr. Silver posted on X. “But there’s some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk. Are we there yet? I don’t know. But it’s more than fair to ask.”

Now that Democrats have cleared the way for nominating online, they could move to replace the ticket virtually — perhaps, some suggest, if Mr. Biden performs poorly at the June 27 presidential debate, where he will face off against Mr. Trump for the first time since 2020.



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DNC’s Zoom nomination plans forge ahead amid talk of ditching Biden

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/19/dncs-zoom-nomination-
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Nate Silver, who aggregates and analyzes election polls, noted that Mr. Biden’s approval rating this month declined to 37.4%, an all-time low for the president.

“Dropping out would be a big risk,” Mr. Silver posted on X. “But there’s some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk. Are we there yet? I don’t know. But it’s more than fair to ask.”


Nate Silver noted that Vice President Kamala Harris approval is 39.5% (37.4% for Biden)
I'm pretty sure that an extra 2.1% is insufficient justification to switch from Biden to Harris for President.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

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DNC’s Zoom nomination plans forge ahead amid talk of ditching Biden

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/19/dncs-zoom-nomination-
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Nate Silver, who aggregates and analyzes election polls, noted that Mr. Biden’s approval rating this month declined to 37.4%, an all-time low for the president.

“Dropping out would be a big risk,” Mr. Silver posted on X. “But there’s some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk. Are we there yet? I don’t know. But it’s more than fair to ask.”


Nate Silver noted that Vice President Kamala Harris approval is 39.5% (37.4% for Biden)
I'm pretty sure that an extra 2.1% is insufficient justification to switch from Biden to Harris for President.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

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He's certainly not suggesting that. He was just pointing out that as abysmal as Harris' approval is right now, Joe*'s is even worse.

Read it again.



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He's certainly not suggesting that. He was just pointing out that as abysmal as Harris' approval is right now, Joe*'s is even worse.

Read it again.

This is not theoretical. If Biden does not run for President, Harris will run, not some imaginary Democrat who is perfect. The guy who has correctly predicted every winner for 40 years, Allan Lichtman, was interviewed about swapping somebody else for Biden. Lichtman predicted that would change two "keys" in the prediction method, thus making it less likely a Democrat would win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

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He's certainly not suggesting that. He was just pointing out that as abysmal as Harris' approval is right now, Joe*'s is even worse.

Read it again.

This is not theoretical. If Biden does not run for President, Harris will run, not some imaginary Democrat who is perfect. The guy who has correctly predicted every winner for 40 years, Allan Lichtman, was interviewed about swapping somebody else for Biden. Lichtman predicted that would change two "keys" in the prediction method, thus making it less likely a Democrat would win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

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Biden* is already underwater 2 keys. Worth the risk.

Harris and Biden* are both idiots, but at least Joe* has an excuse.


And forget about the "Perfect" Democrat. You don't have anybody worth running. The only person who stands a chance is Michelle Obama.

And even if she were to win, that isn't going to help any of the nation's problems in the next 4 years, so you'd better buckle up.

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Oh, and we already talked about how Virginia and even possibly Washington are in play for Trump now, with a virtual tie in Virginia in the state aggregate.

Even though the media isn't talking about it, the data is there.

Now we're looking at Minnesota being a possibility for Trump, with a near dead heat there as well...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/minnesota/


This should not be happening to any Democrat who the people were happy was President. Virginia and Minnesota should be untouchable, yet... here we are.



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Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

He's certainly not suggesting that. He was just pointing out that as abysmal as Harris' approval is right now, Joe*'s is even worse.

Read it again.

This is not theoretical. If Biden does not run for President, Harris will run, not some imaginary Democrat who is perfect. The guy who has correctly predicted every winner for 40 years, Allan Lichtman, was interviewed about swapping somebody else for Biden. Lichtman predicted that would change two "keys" in the prediction method, thus making it less likely a Democrat would win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

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Biden* is already underwater 2 keys. Worth the risk.

Harris and Biden* are both idiots, but at least Joe* has an excuse.


And forget about the "Perfect" Democrat. You don't have anybody worth running. The only person who stands a chance is Michelle Obama.

And even if she were to win, that isn't going to help any of the nation's problems in the next 4 years, so you'd better buckle up.

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The Keys to the White House are not final, but Biden has around 50% chance of winning. Look at the last entry on the table of predictions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House#Table

Also Jun. 21, 2024, at 9:21 PM
Biden has 50% chance of winning, according to Nat Silver, the guy who mentioned Biden is not young and not irreplaceable.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

6ix, you do understand that 50% is a coin flip, right?


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Is it surprising that Republican Supreme Court Justices support Trump by delaying a ruling?

Jun. 21, 2024 3:05PM EDT

The Supreme Court released a slew of new rulings on Friday morning, but, once again, none of them included the decision weighing heaviest on Americans’ minds—whether Donald Trump should be granted king-like immunity for his criminal indictments.

Friday marks 114 days since the case was accepted by the high court—an inexcusable amount of time to rule on something so consequential to the country, a top legal expert tells The Daily Beast.

Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University, said Friday it’s clear that the Supreme Court, which has operated with a comfortable conservative majority since Trump’s presidency, is doing the ex-president’s bidding.

With each day that passes without a decision, the chances of a Trump trial before the 2024 election grow slimmer.

“They’re obviously delaying to benefit Donald Trump,” he said.

Tribe said, realistically, an appropriate time for the court to reach a decision on Trump would have been sometime in December, and Trump’s trial would’ve been completed by now.

Instead, it’s taken the Supreme Court more than twice the time to rule on Trump’s immunity—a matter an appeals court comprehensively rejected—than it took to rule on the much more complex United States vs. Richard Nixon case, which took 54 days.

Tribe says he believes the delay is simply that—a way to buy Trump more time. If he were to win the presidency before he’s convicted, he’d almost certainly use his power to wipe away any charges.

The Supreme Court’s far-right justices are effectively giving Trump the immunity he’s seeking merely by delay.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-the-supre
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It is not surprising that the Trumps have always been in trouble with the law and have always traded sex for money:

Friedrich Trump wrote Bavarian Prince Luitpold begging the "well-loved, noble, wise and just" leader not to deport him. Luitpold rejected the "most subservient request."

Trump's grandfather was born in Kallstadt, then part of Bavaria, and immigrated to the U.S. as a teenager without performing his military service. It was after he'd made his fortune there and tried to resettle in Germany that he was ordered expelled, and returned to the U.S.

Many news outlets have suggested that Friedrich's arguments appear similar to contemporary ones raised by those who fear deportation under President Trump's immigration policies, including this passage:
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We were confronted all at once, as if by a lightning strike from fair skies, with the news that the High Royal State Ministry had decided that we must leave our residence in the Kingdom of Bavaria. We were paralyzed with fright; our happy family life was tarnished. My wife has been overcome by anxiety, and my lovely child has become sick.

Why should we be deported? This is very, very hard for a family. What will our fellow citizens think if honest subjects are faced with such a decree — not to mention the great material losses it would incur. I would like to become a Bavarian citizen again.

The back story to this letter (and Trump's ultimate deportation from Bavaria) began when Friedrich first arrived in America as a 16-year-old barber's apprentice in 1886. He bounced around a variety of apartments and jobs in New York before moving to Washington state in 1891 and finding financial success even further north in Canada during the Gold Rush, as discussed in a New Yorker profile of him:

Suddenly, in 1891, Friedrich was off to Washington State before going to the Klondike regions, where he pursued a colorful career providing food, liquor, and women to miners.

More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-about-the-rumor-tru
mp-s-grandfather-was-deported-from-bavaria/ar-BB1oDCXS


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Trump tells his followers that the FBI was ordered to kill him by Biden, but Trump outwitted them all! Trump’s followers believed him! In Truth, Trump only outwitted his followers.

The Motivated Ignorance of Trump Supporters

They can’t claim they didn’t know.

By Peter Wehner | June 16, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/when-are-trump-suppo
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On the morning of August 8, 2022, 30 FBI agents and two federal prosecutors conducted a court-authorized search of Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump’s Palm Beach, Florida, estate. The reason for the search, according to a 38-count indictment, was that after leaving office Trump mishandled classified documents, including some involving sensitive nuclear programs, and then obstructed the government’s efforts to reclaim them.

On the day before the FBI obtained the search warrant, one of the agents on the case sent an email to his bosses, according to The New York Times. “The F.B.I. intends for the execution of the warrant to be handled in a professional, low key manner,” he wrote, “and to be mindful of the optics of the search.” It was, and they were.

Over the course of 10 hours, the Times reported, “there was little drama as [agents] hauled away a trove of boxes containing highly sensitive state secrets in three vans and a rented Ryder box truck.”

On the day of the search, Trump was out of the state. The club at Mar-a-Lago was closed. Agents alerted one of Trump’s lawyers in advance of the search. And before the search, the FBI communicated with the Secret Service “to make sure we could get into Mar-a-Lago with no issues,” according to the testimony of former Assistant FBI Director Steven D’Antuono. It wasn’t a “show of force,” he said. “I was adamant about that, and that was something we all agreed on.”

The search warrant itself included a standard statement from the Department of Justice’s policy on the use of deadly force. There was nothing exceptional about it. But that didn’t prevent Trump or his supporters from claiming that President Joe Biden and federal law-enforcement agents had been involved in a plot to assassinate the former president.

In a fundraising appeal, Trump wrote,

BIDEN’S DOJ WAS AUTHORIZED TO SHOOT ME! It’s just been revealed that Biden’s DOJ was authorized to use DEADLY FORCE for their DESPICABLE raid in Mar-a-Lago. You know they’re just itching to do the unthinkable … Joe Biden was locked & loaded ready to take me out & put my family in danger.

On May 23, Trump publicly claimed that the Department of Justice “authorized the use of ‘deadly force’ in their Illegal, UnConstitutional, and Un-American RAID of Mar-a-Lago, and that would include against our Great Secret Service, who they thought might be ‘in the line of fire.’”

Trump supporters echoed those claims, as he knew they would. Steve Bannon, one of the architects of the MAGA movement, said, “This was an attempted assassination attempt on Donald John Trump or people associated with him. They wanted a gunfight.” Right-wing radio hosts stoked one another’s fury, claiming that there’s nothing Trump critics won’t do to stop him, up to and including attempting to assassinate him and putting the lives of his Secret Service detail in danger.

The statement by Trump went beyond inflaming his supporters; it created a mindset that moved them closer to violence, the very same mindset that led thousands of them to attack the Capitol on January 6 and threaten to hang Vice President Mike Pence. Which is why Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a motion asking the judge overseeing Trump’s classified-documents case to block him from making public statements that could put law enforcement in danger. “Those deceptive and inflammatory assertions irresponsibly put a target on the backs of the FBI agents involved in this case, as Trump well knows,” he wrote.

Motivated ignorance refers to willfully blinding oneself to facts. It’s choosing not to know. In many cases, for many people, knowing the truth is simply too costly, too psychologically painful, too threatening to their core identity. Nescience is therefore incentivized; people actively decide to remain in a state of ignorance. If they are presented with strong arguments against a position they hold, or compelling evidence that disproves the narrative they embrace, they will reject them. Doing so fends off the psychological distress of the realization that they’ve been lying to themselves and to others.

Motivated ignorance is a widespread phenomenon; most people, to one degree or another, employ it. What matters is the degree to which one embraces it, and the consequences of doing so. In the case of MAGA world, the lies that Trump supporters believe, or say they believe, are obviously untrue and obviously destructive. Since 2016 there’s been a ratchet effect, each conspiracy theory getting more preposterous and more malicious. Things that Trump supporters wouldn’t believe or accept in the past have since become loyalty tests. Election denialism is one example. The claim that Trump is the target of “lawfare,” victim to the weaponization of the justice system, is another.

I have struggled to understand how to view individuals who have not just voted for Trump but who celebrate him, who don’t merely tolerate him but who constantly defend his lawlessness and undisguised cruelty. How should I think about people who, in other domains of their lives, are admirable human beings and yet provide oxygen to his malicious movement? How complicit are people who live in an epistemic hall of mirrors and have sincerely—or half-sincerely—convinced themselves they are on the side of the angels?

Throughout my career I’ve tried to resist the temptation to make unwarranted judgments about the character of people based on their political views. For one thing, it’s quite possible my views on politics are misguided or distorted, so I exercise a degree of humility in assessing the views of others. For another, I know full well that politics forms only a part of our lives, and not the most important part. People can be personally upstanding and still be wrong on politics.

But something has changed for me in the Trump era. I struggle more than I once did to wall off a person’s character from their politics when their politics is binding them to an unusually—and I would say undeniably—destructive person. The lies that MAGA world parrots are so manifestly untrue, and the Trump ethic is so manifestly cruel, that they are difficult to set aside.

If a person insists, despite the overwhelming evidence, that Trump was the target of an assassination plot hatched by Biden and carried out by the FBI, this is more than an intellectual failure; it is a moral failure, and a serious one at that. It’s only reasonable to conclude that such Trump supporters have not made a good-faith effort to understand what is really and truly happening. They are choosing to live within the lie, to invoke the words of the former Czech dissident and playwright Vaclav Havel.

One of the criteria that need to be taken into account in assessing the moral culpability of people is how absurd the lies are that they are espousing; a second is how intentionally they are avoiding evidence that exposes the lies because they are deeply invested in the lie; and a third is is how consequential the lie is.

It’s one thing to embrace a conspiracy theory that is relevant only to you and your tiny corner of the world. It’s an entirely different matter if the falsehood you’re embracing and promoting is venomous, harming others, and eroding cherished principles, promoting violence and subverting American democracy.

In his book The Bible Told Them So: How Southern Evangelicals Fought to Preserve White Supremacy, J. Russell Hawkins tells the story of a June 1963 gathering of more than 200 religious leaders in the White House. President John F. Kennedy was trying to rally their support for civil-rights legislation.

Among those in attendance was Albert Garner, a Baptist minister from Florida, who told Kennedy that many southern white Christians held “strong moral convictions” on racial integration. It was, according to Garner, “against the will of their Creator.”

“Segregation is a principle of the Old Testament,” Garner said, adding, “Prior to this century neither Christianity nor any denomination of it ever accepted the integration philosophy.”

Two months later, in Hanahan, South Carolina, members of a Southern Baptist church—they described themselves as “Christ centered” and “Bible believing”—voted to take a firm stand against civil-rights legislation.

“The Hanahan Baptists were not alone,” according to Hawkins. “Across the South, white Christians thought the president was flaunting Christian orthodoxy in pursuing his civil rights agenda.” Kennedy “simply could not comprehend the truth Garner was communicating: based on their religious beliefs, southern white Christians thought integration was evil.”

A decade earlier, the Reverend Carey Daniel, pastor of First Baptist Church in West Dallas, Texas, had delivered a sermon titled “God the Original Segregationist,” in response to the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. It became influential within pro-segregationist southern states. Daniel later became president of the Central Texas Division of the Citizens Council of America for Segregation, which asked for a boycott of all businesses, lunch counters included, that served Black patrons. In 1960, Daniel attacked those “trying to destroy the white South by breaking the color line, thus giving aid and comfort to our Communist enemies.”

Now ask yourself this: Did the fierce advocacy on behalf of segregation, and the dehumanization of Black Americans, reflect in any meaningful way on the character of those who advanced such views, even if, say, they volunteered once a month at a homeless shelter and wrote a popular commentary on the Book of Romans?

Readers can decide whether MAGA supporters are better or worse than Albert Garner and Carey Daniel. My point is that all of us believe there’s some place on the continuum in which the political choices we make reflect on our character. Some movements are overt and malignant enough that to willingly be a part of them becomes ethically problematic.

This doesn’t mean those in MAGA world can’t be impressive people in other domains of life, just like critics of Trump may act reprehensibly in their personal lives and at their jobs. I’ve never argued, and I wouldn’t argue today, that politics tells us the most important things about a person’s life. Trump supporters and Trump critics alike can brighten the lives of others, encourage those who are suffering, and demonstrate moments of kindness and grandeur.

I understand, too, if their moral convictions keep them from voting for Joe Biden.

But it would be an affectation for me, at least, to pretend that in this particular circumstance otherwise good people, in joining the MAGA movement, in actively advocating on its behalf, and in planning to cast a vote for Trump, haven’t—given all we know—done something grievously wrong.

Some of them are cynical and know better; others are blind to the cultlike world to which they belong. Still others have convinced themselves that Trump, although flawed, is the best of bad options. It’s a “binary choice,” they say, and so they have talked themselves into supporting arguably the most comprehensively corrupt man in the history of American politics, certainly in presidential politics.

Whichever justification applies, they are giving not just their vote but their allegiance to a man and movement that have done great harm to our country and its ideals, and which seek to inflict even deeper wounds in the years ahead. Many of them are self-proclaimed evangelicals and fundamentalists, and they are also doing inestimable damage to the Christian faith they claim is central to their lives. That collaboration needs to be named. A generation from now, and probably sooner, it will be obvious to everyone that Trump supporters can’t claim they didn’t know.

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Saturday, June 22, 2024 5:56 PM

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He's certainly not suggesting that. He was just pointing out that as abysmal as Harris' approval is right now, Joe*'s is even worse.

Read it again.

This is not theoretical. If Biden does not run for President, Harris will run, not some imaginary Democrat who is perfect. The guy who has correctly predicted every winner for 40 years, Allan Lichtman, was interviewed about swapping somebody else for Biden. Lichtman predicted that would change two "keys" in the prediction method, thus making it less likely a Democrat would win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

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Biden* is already underwater 2 keys. Worth the risk.

Harris and Biden* are both idiots, but at least Joe* has an excuse.


And forget about the "Perfect" Democrat. You don't have anybody worth running. The only person who stands a chance is Michelle Obama.

And even if she were to win, that isn't going to help any of the nation's problems in the next 4 years, so you'd better buckle up.

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The Keys to the White House are not final, but Biden has around 50% chance of winning. Look at the last entry on the table of predictions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House#Table

Also Jun. 21, 2024, at 9:21 PM
Biden has 50% chance of winning, according to Nat Silver, the guy who mentioned Biden is not young and not irreplaceable.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

6ix, you do understand that 50% is a coin flip, right?


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You're conflating Nate Silver's assessment of the situation with the Keys, which are two distinct things. Joe Biden* is underwater on 2 keys, regardless of what Nate Silver has to say. Joe Biden* has also been underwater on nationwide and state to state polling in the swing states since September of last year, so the only way for Nate to be able to say it's a coin flip is by being very generous with the Margin of Error and giving it all in favor to Joe Biden*. This is especially true of the swing state polling, which is not only much more important, but also very heavily lopsided in Trump's favor.

And this does not address at all that Joe Biden* and Donald Trump are at a virtual tie in both Virginia and Minnesota at the moment, and the media doesn't talk about adding new swing states to the mix when they are very apparently states that Joe has a coin flip of losing.

No. The election in November is not a coin flip. That is simply Nate Silver trying to position himself as not to end up becoming even less relevant after Election Day than he already was by now. His star has been waning for quite some time now.

Keep on with all that wishful thinking though.




ETA: Haha... That's rich. "What I'm saying is true. Just look at this table on Wikipedia!". Wikipedia is about as "real" as Santa Claus when it comes to anything remotely political.

You should go into the edit history on that page and look at the war going down between some of the "members".

Maybe you should drop what you're doing here and go edit wikipedia articles with your free time. They don't behave much different than what you find in the RWED, but that site gets an infinite amount more traffic than we do and people with double-digit IQs seem to believe what they're told by other people with double-digit IQs.



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I wonder how many moderate voters actually know what Donald Trump's agenda is if he wins the presidency again. Here's a list of Trump proposals, some official and others just musings on the campaign trail. The question is, which ones should we take seriously?

Donald Trump’s 2025 Agenda

1. Replace income tax with a 50% tax on all imports

2. Slash aid to Ukraine

3. Cut all federal funds to any school that requires vaccinations

4. Round up and deport all 20 million illegal immigrants in the US

5. Repeal Obamacare

6. Force prayer back into public schools

7. Fire thousands of civil servants and replace them with Trump appointees

8. Forbid gender affirming care for trans kids

9. Repeal all pollution limits that depend on electric vehicle adoption

10. Allow schoolteachers to carry concealed weapons

11. Evict the homeless from cities and put them in vast tent encampments

12. Allow police to shoot shoplifters

13. Send in the National Guard to patrol cities with high crime rates, like Birmingham and New Orleans

14. Eliminate efficiency standards for home appliances

15. Do nothing about child care

16. Do nothing about climate change

17. Do nothing about prescription drug costs

18. Mifepristone — still no public position

https://jabberwocking.com/donald-trumps-2025-agenda/

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

No. The election in November is not a coin flip. That is simply Nate Silver trying to position himself as not to end up becoming even less relevant after Election Day than he already was by now. His star has been waning for quite some time now.

Keep on with all that wishful thinking though.

America is not the country that will save you from yourself. I haven't told you today, but you are a stupid asshole who doesn't know it, but then every Trumptard I know is a defective person (e.g. Trump) who doesn't know that is the reason their life is a mess, not because it is difficult to prosper in America. You will thrive if you are not lazy, stupid, emotionally, or physically defective. Otherwise, you suffer soul-crushing consequences because of your faults and defects. It is America's version of Karma.

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Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

No. The election in November is not a coin flip. That is simply Nate Silver trying to position himself as not to end up becoming even less relevant after Election Day than he already was by now. His star has been waning for quite some time now.

Keep on with all that wishful thinking though.

America is not the country that will save you from yourself. I haven't told you today, but you are a stupid asshole who doesn't know it, but then every Trumptard I know is a defective person (e.g. Trump) who doesn't know that is the reason their life is a mess, not because it is difficult to prosper in America. You will thrive if you are not lazy, stupid, emotionally, or physically defective. Otherwise, you suffer soul-crushing consequences because of your faults and defects. It is America's version of Karma.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Don't you worry about me, buddy. I'm doing just fine.


You're the guy who always says if Trump wins then it will be GREAT news for your pocket book. I've never once made such a claim about any candidate for any office. I live life on Easy Mode no matter who is President. That's how it was in 2016. That's how it was in 2020. That's how it is in 2024.

All Joe Biden*'s policies that lead to record amounts of inflation have done is slightly shorten the very long window of time where I don't need to work. And when I DO decide I'll go and get a part time job for a year or two to bolster the nest egg, I'm going to be making quite a bit more than I did when I was laid off in the summer of 2019. Even in a state that recognizes the national minimum wage of $7.25/hr, I'd be REALLY hard-pressed to find anything paying less than my last job did.

My life isn't going to change no matter who wins in November. It will remain easy, and I will be doing better than almost everyone else. It's been that way for decades, and no matter who is running the country it will continue to remain that way.

So let's stop pretending that this has anything at all to do with our personal lives.

You and I have very different ideas about how the country should operate and where we're heading, and THAT is what this election is about.

Grow up.

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Saturday, June 22, 2024 10:40 PM

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Oh, and we already talked about how Virginia and even possibly Washington are in play for Trump now, with a virtual tie in Virginia in the state aggregate.

Even though the media isn't talking about it, the data is there.

Now we're looking at Minnesota being a possibility for Trump, with a near dead heat there as well...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/minnesota/


This should not be happening to any Democrat who the people were happy was President. Virginia and Minnesota should be untouchable, yet... here we are.



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Oh Oh...

First time I've heard the media mention this at all. And it's only because despite them keeping it quiet, Trump and his team already knew it...


Trump campaign bets big on Minnesota, Virginia with new field offices

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-to-open-new-field-offices-
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I've been warning you idiots about this stuff for few months now since I pay attention to state polling, and I know you haven't heard it at all in the media until now.

You'd better start asking yourself why the fuck Virginia and Minnesota are even in play for a Republican candidate for President before it's too late.



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Sunday, June 23, 2024 3:24 AM

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Politico: Why Democrats think Biden’s problem is Biden

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/20/joe-biden-underperforming-dem
ocrats-polls-00164156


It ain't looking good for Joe*.

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Don't you worry about me, buddy. I'm doing just fine.

You're the guy who always says if Trump wins then it will be GREAT news for your pocket book.

So let's stop pretending that this has anything at all to do with our personal lives.


6ix, you lost your teeth because you neglected them. You lost decades of life because you drank. You will die of lung cancer. Thank you for smoking.

Trump paid $750 in income tax because he cheats. He actively helps cheaters by reducing tax collection enforcement. For those who don't cheat, he lowers the tax rates.

This election is all about our personal lives. Our politics reflect who we are. Trump is a sex criminal, a tax cheater, an adulterer, a layabout, an incompetent/dishonest businessman, and a draft dodger. Texas Trumptards are the same. Trump flamboyantly displays his voters' real values and purpose in life.

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Sunday, June 23, 2024 9:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Don't you worry about me, buddy. I'm doing just fine.

You're the guy who always says if Trump wins then it will be GREAT news for your pocket book.

So let's stop pretending that this has anything at all to do with our personal lives.


6ix, you lost your teeth because you neglected them. You lost decades of life because you drank. You will die of lung cancer. Thank you for smoking.



You worry about all of that a lot more than I do.

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Trump paid $750 in income tax because he cheats. He actively helps cheaters by reducing tax collection enforcement. For those who don't cheat, he lowers the tax rates.


Got any more pirate links for us today, rich guy?

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This election is all about our personal lives. Our politics reflect who we are. Trump is a sex criminal, a tax cheater, an adulterer, a layabout, an incompetent/dishonest businessman, and a draft dodger. Texas Trumptards are the same. Trump flamboyantly displays his voters' real values and purpose in life.


We don't care about your lies and we aren't going to be bullied by the likes of you anymore.

Meanwhile, enjoy today. Back to work for you tomorrow.



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