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Elections; 2024

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In debate, the Republican candidates are denying climate change is man-made.

A few times, moderators Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum—who did an overall fine job—tried the old “raise your hand” technique, which is really what all the questions should be on a stage where eight candidates are prepared to launch into talking points at the drop of a hat.

When asked about whether human behavior was contributing to climate change, only Asa Hutchinson could half-raise a hand before DeSantis cut off the moderators, saying they should debate the issue instead.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/gop-debate-fox-trump-desan
tis-ramaswamy-pence.html


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The Worst President In The History Of Our Country
By A.T. On August 24, 2023

Last night I watched a minute of Tucker Carlson’s interview with the twice-impeached, quadruply-indicted presumptive Republican nominee . . .

. . . a candidate whom Carlson has said he “hates passionately” and whom he has characterized as “a demonic force, a destroyer” . . .

. . . and though he presumably realizes that Trump holds the honor, Carlson gave him a platform to say — projecting, as he so often does — “Joe Biden is the worst president in the history of our country.”

Biden who, with his team, has led us to:

> The lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

> Inflation lower than in any of Ronald Reagan’s 8 years.

> A current “misery index” lower than it was at the end of Eisenhower’s presidency . . . or Reagan’s, Ford’s, Carter’s, Clinton’s, Nixon’s, Kennedy’s, Johnson’s, either Bush’s or Trump’s.

> The long-sought bipartisan infrastructure bill Trump could never achieve.

> An S&P 500 up 18% since taking office.

> Rising wages.

> A resurgence in manufacturing.

> A dramatically strengthened NATO — Russia, are you listening? — with strengthened Pacific partnerships as well.

> A restoration of dignity to the office of the presidency.

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So why do most Americans believe the country is on the wrong track?

They believe it because . . .

. . . if they’re Trump’s 35%, that’s what he’s led them to believe.

. . . and if they’re not, they are, like me and (I’d guess) you, deeply dismayed if not downright frightened by our ever-increasing polarization and the way facts no longer seem to matter.

If Trump says he had the largest inaugural crowd in history when he plainly did not, it’s just an “alternative fact.”

If more than 1,000 former Republican and Democratic federal prosecutors say he obstructed justice, it’s a “witch hunt.”

If he summons his followers to Washington (“it will be wild”) and tells them to march down to the Capitol and “fight like hell” because the election was stolen from them, knowing that some of them are armed, and then watches for 187 minutes while they storm the Capitol and threaten to kill the Vice President before reluctantly telling them he loves them but they should go home — well, what’s wrong with that?

The entire Republican Party except for Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger just goes along with it.

Sure, he’s a liar. Sure he’s a bully. Sure he’s a wannabe strongman who loves Putin, Kim Jung-Un, and the Proud Boys; who flirts with fascism and kept a book of Hitler’s speeches by his bedside. But he’s their wannabe strongman! Their retribution, no less!

This is scary stuff. So the 65% who are not under his spell think the country’s headed in a dangerous direction, too.

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The 35% and the 65% agree — just for more-or-less opposite reasons.

Yes, we have crime problems (worst in red states). The whole country (very much including those red states) needs to do better.

Yes, we have an immigration mess (not least because the bi-partisan comprehensive immigration reform that passed the Senate 68-32 a decade ago was blocked by a Republican minority in the House; it would have passed easily if the Republicans had allowed it to come up for a vote, so they did not). But it could be fixed if both sides would cooperate; and Biden may get that done in his second term as he got the CHIPs Act passed and Infrastructure bill passed, and the Inflation Reduction Act passed.

But in the main, this president, far from being “the worst president in history,” is shaping up to be one of the best.

If our democracy survives, historians will surely say, almost as one: “Move over, Dubya: Trump had you beat by a mile.”

https://andrewtobias.com/the-worst-president-in-the-history-of-our-cou
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Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:23 PM

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Alex Cole @acnewsitics

Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a moron's idea of a businessman.

9:51 PM · May 20, 2019
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1130667316440641540

6ixStringJack got 4 out of 4:

1. weak man
2. stupid man
3. poor man
4. moron

It is no surprise that 6ix is a Trumptard. Say it again, 6ix: "Trump will be fine." That qualifies 6ix as:

5. Non-perceptive man
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/perceptive

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LOL

Coming from you, that's all a compliment buddy.



Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.

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How did Vivek Ramaswamy become a billionaire at age 38?

Matthew Gertz @MattGertz
How populist "entrepreneur" Vivek Ramaswamy got rich:
1. Found biotech firm with hedge fund/venture capital $
2. Buy patent for Alzheimer's drug that had failed 4 trials, raise more $ to take to market
3. Take company public, cash out
4. Drug fails 5th trial, investors wiped out.
10:35 AM · Aug 24, 2023
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1694735109327401362

This is actually all true, but it's not the whole story. In 2014, after working for a hedge fund as a biotech investor, Ramaswamy started up Roivant Sciences, which was originally intended to buy the rights to castoff drugs and then continue developing them. His first deal was completed by a Roivant subsidiary called Axovant. Among other things, Ramaswamy:

Bought the rights to intepirdine, a failed Alzheimer's drug, for almost nothing in December 2014.
Took Axovant public in June 2015.
Somehow talked up its value to $3 billion before cashing out in December 2015.

Unsurprisingly, intepirdine failed yet another clinical trial and Axovant collapsed. Before that happened, however, it had made a bunch of money for Ramaswamy in the space of a mere 12 months.

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Friday, August 25, 2023 11:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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How did Vivek Ramaswamy become a billionaire at age 38?

Matthew Gertz @MattGertz
How populist "entrepreneur" Vivek Ramaswamy got rich:
1. Found biotech firm with hedge fund/venture capital $
2. Buy patent for Alzheimer's drug that had failed 4 trials, raise more $ to take to market
3. Take company public, cash out
4. Drug fails 5th trial, investors wiped out.
10:35 AM · Aug 24, 2023
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1694735109327401362

This is actually all true, but it's not the whole story. In 2014, after working for a hedge fund as a biotech investor, Ramaswamy started up Roivant Sciences, which was originally intended to buy the rights to castoff drugs and then continue developing them. His first deal was completed by a Roivant subsidiary called Axovant. Among other things, Ramaswamy:

Bought the rights to intepirdine, a failed Alzheimer's drug, for almost nothing in December 2014.
Took Axovant public in June 2015.
Somehow talked up its value to $3 billion before cashing out in December 2015.

Unsurprisingly, intepirdine failed yet another clinical trial and Axovant collapsed. Before that happened, however, it had made a bunch of money for Ramaswamy in the space of a mere 12 months.

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You guys don't have to waste your time.

Trump will be the nominee, then he will be your next President.



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Friday, August 25, 2023 6:47 PM

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Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




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Friday, August 25, 2023 9:01 PM

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Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T



Yeah... Good luck with that. I'm sure you got him this time bro.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Attorney Sues Trump, Claims He is Constitutionally Ineligible for Presidency

Lawrence Caplan argues that the 14th Amendment prevents Trump from holding office again as someone who violated his oath to uphold the Constitution

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/attorney-sues-trump-claims-he-
is-constitutionally-ineligible-for-presidency/ar-AA1fMSt9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f4320d950549416fa6c011339e706730&ei=16




T




Yeah... Good luck with that. I'm sure you got him this time bro.








Trump has been charged with 91 felonies. He's more than got. He is over.

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Friday, August 25, 2023 10:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


A BILLION, ZILLION FELONIES!!!!! OH NOEZ!!!!

Trump will be fine.

He will also be your next President.



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Trump remains the clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination, but the cascading indictments take a toll on his general election prospects.

People are skeptical of Trump’s claim to be the victim of a legally baseless witch hunt or an elaborate, multi-jurisdictional effort to “weaponize” law enforcement authorities against him.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/politico-indictment-august-2023

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Saturday, August 26, 2023 10:30 AM

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Trump remains the clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination, but the cascading indictments take a toll on his general election prospects.

People are skeptical of Trump’s claim to be the victim of a legally baseless witch hunt or an elaborate, multi-jurisdictional effort to “weaponize” law enforcement authorities against him.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/politico-indictment-august-2023

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You're only argument going forward needs to be the 14th Amendment. You've clearly bought that line of bullshit, so commit to it now.

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You're only argument going forward needs to be the 14th Amendment. You've clearly bought that line of bullshit, so commit to it now.

It is perfectly Constitutional to disqualify Trump with no definition of what "disqualify" means. Not allow his name on the ballot? That could be "disqualify". Not count votes for Trump if he is on the ballot? That could be "disqualify". Kill him after the election? Tough for Trumptards to lose der Führer Trump, but that could be called "disqualify" ex post facto. Are you concerned, 6ixStringJack, over the possibility of your God being martyred? Then call the Secret Service, you unemployed, mentally disabled and worthless white trash drunkard and drug addict, the very epitome of a solid Trump voter. I can confidently make that statement because I know a thousand East Texas Trump voters.

Trump Can and Should Be Disqualified From Running for President Under the 14th Amendment

The Disqualification Clause was written for people like the ex-president, who gave aid and comfort to enemies of the country.

Baude and Paulsen note that this could include people like former National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn (who proposed a plan to seize voting machines), the “fake electors,” Jeffrey Clark of the Justice Department, and “at least one member of Congress” (that would be Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA)) who had supported Clark’s plans—and even lobbied for removal of senior DOJ officials who opposed Clark’s scheme.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-can-and-should-be-disqualified-fro
m-running-for-president-under-the-14th-amendment


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Sunday, August 27, 2023 8:43 PM

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You're only argument going forward needs to be the 14th Amendment. You've clearly bought that line of bullshit, so commit to it now.

It is perfectly Constitutional to disqualify Trump with no definition of what "disqualify" means. Not allow his name on the ballot? That could be "disqualify". Not count votes for Trump if he is on the ballot? That could be "disqualify". Kill him after the election? Tough for Trumptards to lose der Führer Trump, but that could be called "disqualify" ex post facto. Are you concerned, 6ixStringJack, over the possibility of your God being martyred? Then call the Secret Service, you unemployed, mentally disabled and worthless white trash drunkard and drug addict, the very epitome of a solid Trump voter. I can confidently make that statement because I know a thousand East Texas Trump voters.



Trump's not my god, and you've been archived again.



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Monday, August 28, 2023 12:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Those dumb NeoCon motherfuckers thought they could use this song?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/08/25/oliver_anthony_funn
y_to_see_rich_men_of_richmond_question_at_gop_debate_that_song_is_about_them.html


No. They can't.

Anybody who supports The Lincoln Project can go right on and get fucked.

You're going down with the Democrats.

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Monday, August 28, 2023 12:16 PM

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Trump's not my god, and you've been archived again.

This is much the same as claiming you are not an alcoholic and not an asshole. You are an alcoholic asshole and nobody will ever take action based on your archive of bitterness, dejection, and drunkenness.

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Monday, August 28, 2023 1:55 PM

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Donald Trump’s Poll Numbers Are Starting to Tank

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-poll-numbers-ar
e-starting-to-tank/ar-AA1fT2pa?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=fbff6c1f28a24c2aad7373b9d1b75fba&ei=69




tick tock

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LOL

No. They're not.

He actually gained .9 points on the Aggregate since his arrest.



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Appealing to electability is the only path forward for any of Trump’scompetitors. And because Ron DeSantis, Ramaswamy, and Pence refuse to make this pitch, the field has been left wide open for Haley. The catch is the same problem that plagues Republicans nationwide: The party never did an autopsy after its 2020 drubbing, because party leadership blithely accepted Trump’s lies and/or delusions that he was the true winner. That is one of the main reasons that Republicans have been unable to change course in the aftermath of multiple disappointing electoral cycles in a row. The whole party is carting around Trump’s 2020 loss like the corpse in Weekend at Bernie’s, and as a consequence, voters don’t think he has an electability problem.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/nikki-haley-trump-alternat
ive-republican-primary.html


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He actually gained .9 points on the Aggregate since his arrest.

Trump is Biden's favorite candidate. Since Trump is your favorite, things will work out great for the Democrats.

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He actually gained .9 points on the Aggregate since his arrest.

Trump is Biden's favorite candidate. Since Trump is your favorite, things will work out great for the Democrats.




Biden* doesn't even remember what his favorite ice cream flavor is, and ice cream is the only thing that is ever on Biden*'s mind.

Joe Biden* doesn't even know who Donald Trump is.



And here's your updated aggregate, stupids.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#polls


Trump went from 2.0 behind Biden* to 1.1 behind Biden*.

Biden* averaged 7.4 points ahead of Trump on November 2nd, 2020 and he only won the popular vote by 3.9.

He can't cover a 1.1 spread.

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Why are Americans so infatuated with Trump?

ChatGPT offered some good answers:

"The phenomenon of Donald Trump's popularity among a segment of Americans is multi-faceted and cannot be attributed to a single reason. Different groups and individuals support him for various reasons, and this article aims to present an overview of some of those factors."

Outsider Status
Donald Trump positioned himself as a political outsider, promising to "drain the swamp" of Washington, D.C. This resonated with voters who were dissatisfied with the political establishment.

Populist Messaging
Trump used simple and direct language that appealed to many Americans. His approach contrasted with what some saw as overly polished and insincere political rhetoric from other politicians.

Economic Factors
Under Trump's administration, prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. experienced economic growth, low unemployment rates, and stock market gains. Many attribute this prosperity to Trump's policies and business background.

Media Presence
Trump's extensive experience in the entertainment industry, including reality TV, provided him with a unique skill set for capturing attention. His frequent use of social media also allowed him to communicate directly with supporters.

Identity Politics
For some, Trump's positions on issues like immigration and national identity tapped into deeper cultural and ideological divisions.

Charismatic Leadership
Many supporters find Trump's confidence and directness refreshing. His charisma has been cited as a key factor in building a dedicated voter base.

Grievance Politics
Trump effectively tapped into a sense of economic and cultural loss felt by certain groups, promising to restore past greatness.

Anti-Globalism
Trump's "America First" stance resonated with those who are skeptical of globalization and international agreements, which they feel disadvantage the U.S.

Controversy and Polarization
Trump's often controversial statements and actions have the effect of galvanizing his base, even if they alienate others.

Emotional Investment
The strong emotional reactions that Trump elicits, both positive and negative, have created a form of engagement that goes beyond traditional political affiliations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-are-so-many-americans-stil
l-infatuated-with-donald-trump-ai-offered-some-good-answers/ar-AA1g390n


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The End Will Come for the Cult of MAGA
Peter Sagal

The next generation isn’t buying it.

In October of last year, Donald Trump filed a defamation suit accusing CNN of calling him a lot of bad names, the first on the lengthy list being “like a cult leader.” One could assume that Trump would be flattered by that, because cult leaders are usually depicted in pop culture as charismatic masters with near-divine power over the lives of their followers. Jimmy Breslin once called then-Mayor Rudolph Giuliani a “small man in search of a balcony.” If so, then Trump is a large man in search of a compound.

Trump stands in front of massive crowds festooned with insignia proclaiming their allegiance, chanting his name and accompanying him on the familiar refrains: “Lock her/him up!” “Build the wall!” They will countenance no criticism of their idol and accept his version of events without question.

Those who call Trumpism a cult can point to his popularity with Republican voters increasing with each of his four criminal indictments. A CBS poll in late August revealed that the most trusted source of information among those voters—more than conservative media, family members, or clergy—is that famed straight shooter Donald J. Trump.

At this point, as the nation faces a series of trials both literal and metaphorical, what label to apply to his movement doesn’t matter. The important question isn’t whether or not Trumpism is a cult. It’s whether the study of cults provides us with any path out of here.

Trump’s suit against CNN was thrown out of court, but Diane Benscoter, the cult expert and former cult member (a “Moonie” of the Unification Church) who compared Trump to a cult leader on CNN, still believes what she said. She’s been working with two incarcerated January 6 participants at the request of their lawyers, not so much to persuade them to recant as to help them with their behavior and attitude while in court—for example, no shouted accusations about the “deep state.” The work is difficult and slow, she told me, even more difficult than her recent efforts to “deprogram” India Oxenberg, one of the high-profile women caught up in NXIVM, the sex cult masquerading as a self-improvement course.

It’s so difficult, in fact, that she sees greater hope in attacking the demand side of cultism, calling for government programs that would treat disinformation and indoctrination as a kind of public-health emergency—a Sanitary Commission of the Mind. If enough people can be taught how indoctrination works, she thinks, they will be able to see it coming for them before it’s too late. Set aside the legal and ethical questions about assigning the government that sort of expansive role; what if it’s already too late? Educating people so they won’t join a political cult, in 2023, is like closing the barn door after the horse has attacked the West Portico of the Capitol with bear spray.

Steven Hassan, another former cult member (also a Moonie), published his book The Cult of Trump in 2019, long before the attack on the Capitol, even before Trump persuaded thousands of his followers to gather indoors unmasked during the worst airborne pandemic in a century. Hassan told me that the MAGA movement checks all the boxes of his “BITE” model of cult mind control: behavior, information, thought, and emotional control. Like all cult leaders, he argues, Trump restricts the information his followers are allowed to accept; demands purity of belief (beliefs that can change from moment to moment, as per his whims and needs); and appeals to his followers through the conjuring of primal emotions — not just fear but also joy.

His rallies, as so many have reported, are ecstatic events; people cheer and laugh as their various enemies are condemned and insulted. Hassan will be the first to tell you that being part of a cult means you’re empowered, special, one of the elect, close to the person who has all the answers/will lead us to paradise/will “make America great again.” That, in fact, may be the greatest disincentive to turn away from Trump: Nothing is more fun than knowing that you and your friends are the ones who are right about everything.

In the four years since the publication of The Cult of Trump, Hassan believes, the movement has gained strength through de facto alliances with other “authoritarian cults” such as QAnon, as well as with groups like the Council for National Policy, a secretive networking organization of powerful conservatives, and the New Apostolic Reformation, a theological movement calling for Christian dominion over politics. The danger is metastasizing, Hassan said, thanks primarily to digital and social media, which take the place of sermons and indoctrination sessions. “We’re on our phones 10 hours a day. People are up all night getting fed YouTube videos,” he said. “You don’t need a compound anymore.”

As cults became more prominent in the 1970s, self-styled “deprogrammers,” paid by desperate family members, would sometimes abduct cult members and keep them isolated and disoriented until they gave up their beliefs. That tended to backfire: What better proof that everyone outside the cult is a dangerous enemy, to a cult member indoctrinated in that belief, than being snatched up and locked in a hotel room? Whether or not the strategy ever worked, it was clearly unethical and even criminal; some deprogrammers served time for kidnapping.

Today it’s clearly not an option: It would take half the country kidnapping the other half of the country, and then who would feed the pets?

On cable TV, liberal pundits offer up regular factual rebuttals to Trump’s claims, as if his followers could be lectured into seeing the truth. But at this point, Trump’s supporters have been with him for up to eight years, through countless scandals, two impeachments, and now four indictments. What facts could anyone possibly conjure that they haven’t heard and dismissed before? Besides, to admit they’re wrong about any one thing would imply that they’ve been wrong the whole time. As anyone who’s been taken in a game of three-card monte and then played again to win their money back will know, the hardest thing in the world to admit is that you’ve been conned.

Instead, Hassan advocates “respectful, curious questioning.” He advised that friends and relatives of those deep in MAGA try reconnecting with them, approaching them without judgment, to remind them of the relationship you had before they turned. Then, through gentle inquisition, ask them to see things from others’ perspectives, to think about occasions when they’ve seen people intentionally misled by others, to ask themselves what it would be like if that happened to them. Eventually — as Hassan said he did, when he was forced by such questions to examine his allegiance to Reverend Sun Myung Moon — they will free themselves from the spell.

Maybe. Diane Benscoter tried just such an approach in a conversation with a right-wing conspiracy theorist named Michelle Queen, on tape for an NPR story in 2021. First, she found common ground by agreeing that harming children is bad. But then:

Diane Benscoter: Some of the things that are being spread about, you know, babies being eaten and things—I don’t think those things are true personally.

Michelle Queen: Um, I do.

At least, as the NPR correspondent Tovia Smith noted, they agreed to keep talking.

To Daniella Mestyanek Young, every group of people has a little cult in it, and every person has a bit of a cult follower within. At 36, and with a master’s in group psychology from Harvard’s Extension School, she’s acquired a following via her series of TikTok videos in which she shares insights from her own history. She was born into the Children of God, which many ex-members describe as a sex cult, and then escaped it to join the U.S. Army, only to find that the Army was kind of a cult too. In her view, all organizations are situated somewhere on the “cultiness spectrum,” and some celebrated groups, such as the military and Alcoholics Anonymous, are much further toward the dark end than you’d like to believe.

In her TikToks, she includes various lists and rules of cults in an ever-present text box above her head, one of which reads:

The first rule of cults is: you’re never in a cult

The second rule of cults is: the cult will forgive any sin, except leaving

The third rule of cults is: even if he did it, that doesn’t mean he’s guilty.

Like the other cult experts I spoke with, Young doesn’t believe that anybody can be argued out of Trumpism (or any other firmly held belief). People can save only themselves, as she did. But she argues that such self-rescues are happening all around us.

“Twenty years ago,” she told me, “when I walked away from a cult, it was much rarer to meet Americans like me, who are completely estranged from their families because they wouldn’t follow one leader, one guru, one specific ideology. And now it’s very common. The way that cults die without a final, Jonestown-like conflagration is when they can’t recruit the next generation, and we are seeing this in the alt-right. We’re going to see young children of MAGA Republicans voting for the left.”

She said that she hears from young people on TikTok all the time who say “they’re not going to vote for the people who made them do live-shooter drills in schools and at the same time loosened the gun laws.” There’s a trend on TikTok of young people posting what are called “deconstructing” songs; they’re usually about someone walking away from conservative Christianity. They say things, Young told me, like, “Screw you. You told me all my friends are going to hell. I’m going to hell with them.”

It’s possible as well, she thinks, that many formerly avid followers of Trump are themselves just quiet quitting, in a way. They stop posting Facebook memes, put away the MAGA hat, get back into cooking or sports or whatever it was that interested them before Trump. As said, it’s tough to admit you’ve been conned, so they don’t publicly denounce their former beliefs—unless, of course, they’re trying to get a lighter sentence. Consider the ragged smattering of followers who’ve appeared at Trump’s various arraignments, the desultory showings at his recent rallies, the smaller and sadder group of loyalists who attend him at Mar-a-Lago.

But Young believes that the only thing that will truly end Trumpism is what ends everything, eventually: the icy hand of death. Not necessarily the departure of Trump himself; she (like Hassan and Benscoter) believes that if and when he leaves the scene, via jail or one too many Big Macs, various pretenders will rise up to claim his mantle and authority, just as the Unification Church splintered into various factions after the death of Reverend Moon. No, what she means is that the members of the cult itself will die out, and there will be no one, eventually, to replace them.

In 2020, more than half of Americans over the age of 65 voted for Trump—it was, in fact, the only demographic group he won outright—while 62 percent of voters aged 18–29 went for Joe Biden. Right now, older voters dominate the electorate, but the passage of time, unlike the counting of electoral votes, can’t be stopped by force. Trump will someday be gone, and his following will fade and diminish, just like the millennial cults that used to regularly proclaim the impending end of the world. The world never ends, but political movements do.

We may not be prepared for whatever takes Trumpism’s place, but at least we will no longer be shocked.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/trumpism-maga-cult-r
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It's humorous watching cultists claim that free-thinking people are in a cult.

Don't swallow the Kool-Aid.

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I decided to stop in and see what idiocy SECOND was posting lately ...





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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's humorous watching cultists claim that free-thinking people are in a cult.

Don't swallow the Kool-Aid.

The third rule of cults is: even if he did it, that doesn’t mean he’s guilty. (That is pure Trump.)

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I decided to stop in and see what idiocy SECOND was posting lately ...







He's here everyday for a laugh.

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Donald Trump’s Poll Numbers Are Starting to Tank

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-poll-numbers-ar
e-starting-to-tank/ar-AA1fT2pa?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=fbff6c1f28a24c2aad7373b9d1b75fba&ei=69




tick tock

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LOL

No. They're not.

He actually gained .9 points on the Aggregate since his arrest.



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Actually...

1.3 points now.

Joe Biden* is only 0.7 points up on the RCP aggregate as of this morning. He was 2.0 points up before Trump's arrest.

Of all the polls in the aggregate, Yahoo's poll is the only one that has Biden up enough points to cover how many less Biden* actually got than the November 2nd, 2020 aggregate. Not even Fox News' +3 Biden (in 2nd place) covers that spread.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 11:27 PM

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I haven't been following this thread, so if it's come up before, sorry about that!

But I heard an interesting point about why Biden* is so desperate for a win (or at least, not a loss) in Ukraine. And that is, that if he loses the election, he and his family members would wind up in jail.

And extending that further, if the DNC loses its grip on the Senate, and the RNC loses enough of its establishment stalwarts (Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy etc,) just imagine the FIB, CIA, and DOJ coming under some REAL scrutiny.

There are probably people in DC right now who are having butt-puckering moments just thinking about it.

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I'd love to believe this was true.

But even if it is, the people who would go down are just puppets. Nobody with real power ever goes down.

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Comrade signym, you have 0 redeeming qualities. And Jacks just stupid.

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Comrade signym, you have 0 redeeming qualities. And Jacks just stupid.

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"Jack's" just stupid.

Stupid.



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Republicans are "walking the plank" by pursuing the strictest possible abortion laws, according to GOP Representative Nancy Mace.

In the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade last summer, Republican lawmakers across the country have begun pursuing laws to restrict abortion access with renewed vigor, especially in states where they hold majority power. Some Republican 2024 presidential candidates have also said they would support some sort of a federal abortion law that would restrict access to the medical procedure everywhere.

Abortion access has been resiliently popular among voters in the wake of Roe ending, however. Numerous polls have found majority support for abortion rights in most states, red or blue, and every state-level election concerning the matter in the last year has seen voters come out strongly in support of protecting access to abortion.

Speaking with CNN for a profile released on Sunday, Mace, a two-term congresswoman from a moderate South Carolina district, outlined her rare stance as an anti-abortion Republican in favor of broader exceptions for women seeking the procedure. Having spoken openly about her own sexual assaults as a teen, Mace has advocated strongly for rape and incest exceptions in abortion laws. She has also called for limits of around 12 to 15 weeks, not six weeks, as many conservative legislatures in the United States have pursued.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-are-walking-plank-abortion-pro-li
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Republicans' plan to bomb Mexico is bad

We don't need a literal war on drugs

During the Trump administration, Brett Giroir served as Assistant Secretary for Health, a position that entailed a commission as an admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service and, therefore, required that Giroir sometimes wear a military-style dress uniform.

This is the source of an amusing anecdote reported by Maggie Haberman: Giroir supposedly came to the Oval Office to talk about opioids, and Trump — mistaking him for a military officer — asked about bombing fentanyl labs in Mexico. “The response from White House aides,” Haberman dryly reports, “was not to try to change Trump’s view, but to consider asking Giroir not to wear his uniform to the Oval Office anymore.” Haberman also reports in her book that Trump’s interest in the subject led to him “eventually asking a stunned Defense Secretary Mark Esper whether the United States could indeed bomb the labs,” which suggests the whole thing was not purely a mixup about Giroir’s role.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/28/trump-book-white-ho
use-bomb-mexico
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Monday, September 4, 2023 9:59 PM

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lol

This guy is so full of shit.

Miami-Dade County swung hard for DeSantis. Democrats should have never lost Miami-Dade County.

That's how fucking horrible Democrats are in these times.

Draw whatever fucking map you want Ted. Democrats still lose.



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Republicans' plan to bomb Mexico is bad

We don't need a literal war on drugs

During the Trump administration, Brett Giroir served as Assistant Secretary for Health, a position that entailed a commission as an admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service and, therefore, required that Giroir sometimes wear a military-style dress uniform.

This is the source of an amusing anecdote reported by Maggie Haberman: Giroir supposedly came to the Oval Office to talk about opioids, and Trump — mistaking him for a military officer — asked about bombing fentanyl labs in Mexico. “The response from White House aides,” Haberman dryly reports, “was not to try to change Trump’s view, but to consider asking Giroir not to wear his uniform to the Oval Office anymore.” Haberman also reports in her book that Trump’s interest in the subject led to him “eventually asking a stunned Defense Secretary Mark Esper whether the United States could indeed bomb the labs,” which suggests the whole thing was not purely a mixup about Giroir’s role.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/28/trump-book-white-ho
use-bomb-mexico
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I'm for it.

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Republicans are "walking the plank" by pursuing the strictest possible abortion laws, according to GOP Representative Nancy Mace.

In the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade last summer, Republican lawmakers across the country have begun pursuing laws to restrict abortion access with renewed vigor, especially in states where they hold majority power. Some Republican 2024 presidential candidates have also said they would support some sort of a federal abortion law that would restrict access to the medical procedure everywhere.

Abortion access has been resiliently popular among voters in the wake of Roe ending, however. Numerous polls have found majority support for abortion rights in most states, red or blue, and every state-level election concerning the matter in the last year has seen voters come out strongly in support of protecting access to abortion.

Speaking with CNN for a profile released on Sunday, Mace, a two-term congresswoman from a moderate South Carolina district, outlined her rare stance as an anti-abortion Republican in favor of broader exceptions for women seeking the procedure. Having spoken openly about her own sexual assaults as a teen, Mace has advocated strongly for rape and incest exceptions in abortion laws. She has also called for limits of around 12 to 15 weeks, not six weeks, as many conservative legislatures in the United States have pursued.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-are-walking-plank-abortion-pro-li
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Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.

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Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.

Trump appointed judges who ruled that Abortion Is Murder. Trump would pass a Federal Law punishing Abortion as Murder. Trump does not get into specifics because that would lose votes for him but once back in power, Abortion Is Murder, no exceptions, will be the Law. (Trump will be fine with that.)

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+federal+law+banning+abortion

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.

Trump appointed judges who ruled that Abortion Is Murder.



Oh yeah? Show me specific cases that aren't taken out of context.

Also show me where Trump ever said THIS was the reason he appointed any of those judges based off the fact that they stood against abortion.

Biden has installed judges all across the country that let men shower with women as long as they tell you that they're not men. And if Biden* has never stated that was the specific reason he put them there, the Media loves it and calls you a bigot if you don't agree, so he doesn't even have to say it.

His fuckin' supreme court justice from Wakanda can't even tell you what a Woman is because she didn't get her degree in Biology.

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Trump would pass a Federal Law punishing Abortion as Murder.


No. He wouldn't.

LOL

Get off it dude. Does Trump strike you as the (genuinely) religious type?

Dude has probably paid for a dozen abortions on top of hush money.

All that pussy he grabbed... You know he knocked up at least a dozen of them.



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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:11 AM

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Yanno what is kind of amusing?

After having to endure 7 years of these two nitwits and the other chucklefucks who I scared off the site talking about the walls closing in on Trump every single day, their boy Biden* is probably about to be impeached.

Not that I'm going to talk about it every day or even bring it up much while it's happening for that matter. We all know that impeachment means nothing at the end of the day.


At least we'll have some entertainment when Biden* and the Democrats are trying their damnedest to lock everything down and pass unconstitutional mandates for the Covid 20 they just unleashed on the world because they know they're going to lose their ass in the election next November.

But what do I know? Maybe this is the virus that actually kills a few billion people but nobody takes them seriously leading up to it because they cried wolf for 3 fuckin' years.



Who knows? Maybe that was their plan all along.

I predicted Covid 20 back in 2020.

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Oh yeah? Show me specific cases that aren't taken out of context.

Also show me where Trump ever said THIS was the reason he appointed any of those judges based off the fact that they stood against abortion.

Biden has installed judges all across the country that let men shower with women as long as they tell you that they're not men. And if Biden* has never stated that was the specific reason he put them there, the Media loves it and calls you a bigot if you don't agree, so he doesn't even have to say it.

His fuckin' supreme court justice from Wakanda can't even tell you what a Woman is because she didn't get her degree in Biology.

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Trump would pass a Federal Law punishing Abortion as Murder.


No. He wouldn't.

LOL

Get off it dude. Does Trump strike you as the (genuinely) religious type?

Dude has probably paid for a dozen abortions on top of hush money.

All that pussy he grabbed... You know he knocked up at least a dozen of them.

Trump appointed Supreme Court judges specifically to overturn Roe v Wade. To insist Trump did not is to insist you are nuts.

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I'm for it.

To bomb Mexico is nuts. Not unexpected to learn you and the GOP are nuts:

Invading Mexico becomes a mainstream Republican Party position.

“Mexico is a captive narco state. I support the amendment and support passing an Authorized Use of Military Force against Mexico.”

Donald Trump has led the calls for war, enlisting advisers to come up with ways to attack Mexican drug cartels — with or without Mexico’s permission. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis promised he would send military forces to Mexico on “day one” if he is elected president. Vivek Ramaswamy, the businessman-turned-presidential-hopeful, said he would use “military force to decimate the cartels, Osama bin Laden-style, Soleimani-style” in the first six months of his presidency. Former CIA agent Will Hurd — who at one point was the only Black Republican in the House — said this week that he wants to “dismantle cartel and human smuggling networks by treating them the same way we treated the Taliban and Al Qaeda.”

Meanwhile in Congress, 21 Republicans — led by Reps. Dan Crenshaw and Michael Waltz — introduced legislation in January to authorize the use of military force against Mexican cartels. In March, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., announced he would introduce legislation to “set the stage” for military force in Mexico. And House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer said it was a “mistake” that then-President Trump didn’t move forward with his reported hopes to “shoot missiles into Mexico to destroy the drug labs,” and then lie and pretend the U.S. was not behind the attack.

https://theintercept.com/2023/08/31/republicans-mexico-war/

What next from the Trumptards? Bomb Canada?

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Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.






Trump can't even come close to winning without the evangelical vote. He will say and do what they want before we go to the polls so tick tock

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Republicans' plan to bomb Mexico is bad

We don't need a literal war on drugs

During the Trump administration, Brett Giroir served as Assistant Secretary for Health, a position that entailed a commission as an admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service and, therefore, required that Giroir sometimes wear a military-style dress uniform.

This is the source of an amusing anecdote reported by Maggie Haberman: Giroir supposedly came to the Oval Office to talk about opioids, and Trump — mistaking him for a military officer — asked about bombing fentanyl labs in Mexico. “The response from White House aides,” Haberman dryly reports, “was not to try to change Trump’s view, but to consider asking Giroir not to wear his uniform to the Oval Office anymore.” Haberman also reports in her book that Trump’s interest in the subject led to him “eventually asking a stunned Defense Secretary Mark Esper whether the United States could indeed bomb the labs,” which suggests the whole thing was not purely a mixup about Giroir’s role.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/28/trump-book-white-ho
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I'm for it.






Pay attention Jack. You should shut the fuck up because you're a dummy.

T




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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:02 PM

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Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.






Trump can't even come close to winning without the evangelical vote. He will say and do what they want before we go to the polls so tick tock

T




Nah.

The "Evangelical vote" is all but a myth in 2023. This ain't the 1980's son.

And the little of them that do exist might be rooting for Pence right now, but once Trump is the nominee they're going to do what they need to do to make sure Democrats are out of power.



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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:

Republicans' plan to bomb Mexico is bad

We don't need a literal war on drugs

During the Trump administration, Brett Giroir served as Assistant Secretary for Health, a position that entailed a commission as an admiral in the U.S. Public Health Service and, therefore, required that Giroir sometimes wear a military-style dress uniform.

This is the source of an amusing anecdote reported by Maggie Haberman: Giroir supposedly came to the Oval Office to talk about opioids, and Trump — mistaking him for a military officer — asked about bombing fentanyl labs in Mexico. “The response from White House aides,” Haberman dryly reports, “was not to try to change Trump’s view, but to consider asking Giroir not to wear his uniform to the Oval Office anymore.” Haberman also reports in her book that Trump’s interest in the subject led to him “eventually asking a stunned Defense Secretary Mark Esper whether the United States could indeed bomb the labs,” which suggests the whole thing was not purely a mixup about Giroir’s role.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/28/trump-book-white-ho
use-bomb-mexico
/




I'm for it.






Pay attention Jack. You should shut the fuck up because you're a dummy.

T





I would never watch a video you posted, fuckface.



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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 1:05 PM

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I'm for it.

To bomb Mexico is nuts. Not unexpected to learn you and the GOP are nuts:

Invading Mexico becomes a mainstream Republican Party position.

“Mexico is a captive narco state. I support the amendment and support passing an Authorized Use of Military Force against Mexico.”

Donald Trump has led the calls for war, enlisting advisers to come up with ways to attack Mexican drug cartels — with or without Mexico’s permission. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis promised he would send military forces to Mexico on “day one” if he is elected president. Vivek Ramaswamy, the businessman-turned-presidential-hopeful, said he would use “military force to decimate the cartels, Osama bin Laden-style, Soleimani-style” in the first six months of his presidency. Former CIA agent Will Hurd — who at one point was the only Black Republican in the House — said this week that he wants to “dismantle cartel and human smuggling networks by treating them the same way we treated the Taliban and Al Qaeda.”

Meanwhile in Congress, 21 Republicans — led by Reps. Dan Crenshaw and Michael Waltz — introduced legislation in January to authorize the use of military force against Mexican cartels. In March, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., announced he would introduce legislation to “set the stage” for military force in Mexico. And House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer said it was a “mistake” that then-President Trump didn’t move forward with his reported hopes to “shoot missiles into Mexico to destroy the drug labs,” and then lie and pretend the U.S. was not behind the attack.

https://theintercept.com/2023/08/31/republicans-mexico-war/

What next from the Trumptards? Bomb Canada?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Canada isn't sending military aged male invaders here by the tens of thousands every day. Canada is fine.

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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 7:05 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yup. Rape. Incest. Mother will die if she gives birth. All legitimate reasons.

Trump agrees with all of them.

Fuck the Mike Pence's in the GOP.






Trump can't even come close to winning without the evangelical vote. He will say and do what they want before we go to the polls so tick tock

T




Nah.

The "Evangelical vote" is all but a myth in 2023. This ain't the 1980's son.

And the little of them that do exist might be rooting for Pence right now, but once Trump is the nominee they're going to do what they need to do to make sure Democrats are out of power.








Jack, you don't know shit about anything.

T


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Wednesday, September 6, 2023 3:22 AM

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lol

We shall see, Theodore.



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Wednesday, September 6, 2023 6:01 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I’ve Read

by Nate White

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.

https://londondaily.com/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-tr
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