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Fires have killed over 20 People. Multiple US Wildfires seen from space. Deliberate possible Arson? blazes ravage Oregon, California. Hundreds of thousands forced to evacuate

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Friday, September 11, 2020 4:03 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


the Air itself is turning Blood Red

Skies have turned into this Orange smokey color, dark red clouds during the daytime. Ash piles up in some streets, sparks float off and create more Fire.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/hundreds-thousands-acres-burn-california-ore
gon-wildfires-continue/story?id=72920648


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/sep/11/fires-oregon-cali
fornia-washington-wildfires-live-news-updates-today


https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-wildfire-16-missing-oregon-washi
ngton-blazes


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weather/major-wildfires-tear-through-ca
lifornia-oregon-and-washington-as-death-toll-rises/ar-BB18W7qs


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Ten Percent of Oregon Told to Evacuate

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2020-09-11/us-west-wildf
ires-kill-16-in-oregon-500-000-flee


Wildfires: More Than 10 Percent of Oregon Residents Evacuate
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/the-west-coast-wildfire-season
-is-getting-worse.html

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Friday, September 11, 2020 7:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Oregon wildfire investigated as arson after human remains found


https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/oregon-wildfire-investigated-as-arson-af
ter-human-remains-found
/

California, Oregon and Washington Fire Tracking Maps
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/fires-map-tracker.html
Major Fires California, Oregon and Washington.

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Friday, September 11, 2020 8:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It boggles my mind that ANYONE would set a forest fire. I just don't understand it.

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Friday, September 11, 2020 8:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yup. Out of state Antifa lighting forests next houses far away from their parent's houses.


These are the people that Democrats have been backing. You get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Another Four Arrested?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8721359/Evacuate-Wildfires-gr
ow-Oregon-500K-flee.html


'In southern Oregon near the California state line, much of the small town of Phoenix was wiped out. ', "Newsom finally called for voters to unseat politicians 'across the spectrum' who deny the effects of climate change, saying he was not just criticizing President Donald Trump."

'Anita Esquivel was arrested and booked in to Monterey County Jail on arson charges. '

Oregon governor says she is preparing for a 'mass fatality event' as firefighters battle two blazes

'Two other men were arrested for starting blazes in Washington state this week, authorities confirmed. '
Quote:


'A 36-year-old Puyallup resident was arrested Wednesday for allegedly starting a fire on State Route 167 at Meridian. '



There was also some stupidass gender reveal Firework party that caused the fires https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/california-fires-gender
-reveal-party-blamed-for-blaze-as-la-hits-49c/news-story/44406e2313f6c54794c9192638801e7f

some baby reveal party causing a massive fire
burned 7,000 acres, was caused by ‘smoke-generating pyrotechnic device’, …
The El Dorado fire has burned for 36 hours and is only 5% under control.

Fire in Utah also
https://kutv.com/news/local/suspected-arson-on-the-manti-la-sal-nation
al-forest



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Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:07 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


People are Starting Fires


news on arrests

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/12/four-arrested-for-arson-
on-the-west-coast-one-a-regular-attendee-of-anti-cop-rallies-in-seattle
/


Also Kauai Hawaii's fourth largest island and oldest island, is sometimes called the "Garden Island,"

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/09/12/breaking-news/kauai-police-a
rrest-suspect-40-in-connection-with-brush-fire-near-salt-pond-beach-park-and-burns-field
/
Kauai police arrest suspect, 40, in connection with brush fire in Hanapepe

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Colossal fires look ever more menacing, viewed from space

https://mashable.com/article/fires-from-space-california-west/

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California's fast-moving Creek Fire spawns 'fire cloud' visible from space

https://www.space.com/california-creek-fire-cloud-visible-from-space.h
tml


Here's What the Massive Amount of Smoke Created by West Coast Wildfires Looks Like From Space
https://time.com/5888449/wildfires-smoke-california-oregon-washington-
satellite-space
/


Woman arrested for arson after crews respond to a fire Saturday night
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/woman-arrested-for-arson-after-cr
ews-respond-to-a-fire-saturday-night/ar-BB18YCCl

Wichita Falls firefighters were called to the scene of a structure fire Saturday night


Arson Arrest In Fire Near Phoenix
https://www.ijpr.org/law-and-justice/2020-09-12/arson-arrest-in-fire-n
ear-phoenix


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Sunday, September 13, 2020 9:26 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Out of state Antifa lighting forests next houses far away from their parent's houses.


These are the people that Democrats have been backing. You get what you fucking deserve.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This debunked bullshit is how we all know you're stupid. Only an idiot would believe this nonsense and mindlessly repeat it.

Law enforcement: Untrue antifa rumors waste precious resources for Oregon fires
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/11/antifa-wildfires-oregon-rumors-
fact-check-debunked
/

Oregon Police Beg Public to Stop Calling In False Reports Blaming Antifa for Wildfires
False claims that antifascists are starting forest fires have been spread by supporters of President Donald Trump.
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/10/oregon-police-beg-public-stop-call
ing-false-reports-blaming-antifa-wildfires
/


I bring the facts, you bring the stupid.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:38 AM

REAVERFAN


We saw similar reichwing Nazi idiocy coming out of Australia a few months back.

The viral false claim that nearly 200 arsonists are behind the Australia fires, explained
Only a handful of fires were deliberately ignited. But that didn’t stop people from spreading misinformation.
https://www.vox.com/2020/1/9/21058332/australia-fires-arson-lightning-
explained


Who spread these lies? The usual liars:

Donald Trump Jr. and Sean Hannity were among the most prominent tweeters this week of the allegation that close to 200 people in Australia have been charged with arson for deliberately lighting brushfires. Other people on the right, as well as bots trying to amplify climate skepticism, jumped on board with the hashtag #ArsonEmergency.----

This was, of course, a lie.
----
In many instances, the people promoting the arson narrative are doing so to refute climate change as a driver of the fires, with some conspiracy theorists going as far as to blame environmentalists for deliberately starting fires.

To be clear: Climate change is definitely a factor in the growing severity of Australia’s fire risks. And there is no arson emergency in Australia; the number of arrests for arson being cited is wrong. In fact, the Fox article in Hannity’s tweet debunks his headline:


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Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:57 AM

REAVERFAN


Man Accused of Setting California Fire Is Reportedly Avid Conspiracy Theorist
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/forrest-gordon-accus
ed-arson-california-fire-conspiracy-theorist-710023
/

However, Clark’s biggest beef may be with, well, reality. JJ MacNab, a writer who focuses on anti-government extremism, gave Clark’s eight years of social media history a thorough review and discovered that he’d been active in the “sovereign citizen” movement since at least 2010, and was a member of an alternative-government group called the Republic of the united States of America (RuSA), which believes that the country has been under the control of an imposter government since 1871. Clark’s Facebook activity, she says, suggests he “believes in just about every kooky conspiracy out there, including QAnon, Pizzagate, Jade Helm 15, flat earth theories, NESARA, Jesuit conservancies, shape-shifting lizard overlords.”

“The guy was like a canary in a coal mine,” MacNab tweeted. “He was always one of the first true believers to glom onto whatever conspiracy theory was new and sexy that month.”

Just another insane, stupid trumptard.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:14 AM

REAVERFAN


Rumors about ‘antifa’ wildfires in Oregon are false, law enforcement says
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/rumors-about-antifa-wildfires-
in-oregon-are-false-law-enforcement-says.html


No, anti-fascists have not been arrested in connection with wildfires ravaging Oregon, and public officials are asking people to stop spreading the various false rumors claiming this to be the case.

Some mainstream conservative pundits and a major police trade publication, as well as conspiracy theorists aligned with QAnon, have all promoted the false narrative about the historically destructive and deadly wildfires.

While investigators are looking into arson as the possible cause of at least one fire, authorities say there is no evidence to suggest the arson is politically motivated. Utility providers have said some fires may have been started by downed power lines during historic winds and heat. Red flag wildfire warnings have been in effect for the better part of a week.

People pushing the conspiracy theories have largely pointed to the Almeda fire, which Ashland Police Chief Tighe O’Meara confirmed has spurred a criminal investigation. O’Meara said rumors claiming anti-fascists were involved are “100% false information.”

“We have some leads, and none of it points in that direction,” he said.---

Stupid people don't know they're stupid.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, I for one have never claimed - or even thought-that Antifa was setting forest fires. And I can't imagine HOW these rumors started ... except Antifa's history of setting fires in cities.


CA, where I live, has a long history of devastating forest fires, and their causes are almost always lightning strikes, downed power lines, regular arsonists, and human stupidity.

In the case of the fire nearest me (Bobcat Fire), apparently some stupid people had lit a campfire to "read the smoke" (believers in santeria, I was told) to see what sex their unborn baby was (I guess they couldn't afford an ultrasound). Other past human causes have included such things as "gender reveal" videos gone wrong, welding work, grinding work (sparks), illegal campfires, car fires, "back fires" gone out of control etc. Yanno, people being stupid and careless in a tinderbox when the wind is blowing like a bellows.



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Sunday, September 13, 2020 12:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Overall, the big cause for concern has been the "megadrought" gripping the western half of the USA this past summer. Been following the drought on the USA drought monitor, which shows the extent of the normally green, lush temperate rain forests of N California, Oregon, and Washington state in state of extreme drought. La Nina is active, and it is unlikely that rain will come any time soon. Predictions are that fire season will last well into Novemeber, and possibly even December. (OH, BTW ... where is that "global cooling" due to the "new Maunder minimum, you anti-science people? Last I checked, the earth was still warming up!)

A couple of years ago, it was British Columbia burning up.

My own personal opinion is that global climate shift is indeed making things worse. Not thru general increase in temperature (which doesn't help) but because the jet stream is looping farther north and south, slowing down, and becoming more static (staying in place longer) because the warming arctic is no longer driving the weather as fast as it used to. That's how you can have the center of the USA transition from late-summer heat to snowfall in just a couple of days.)

Another thing that doesn't help has been FEDERAL and STATE forest management policy. At the Federal level it has lurched from aggressive forest suppression ... allowing fuel loads to build up ... to clearcutting, allowing mudslides .... to "let it burn", leading to unnaturally intense fires that literally glassify and sterilize the soil.

Sigh.

NO President of either party has ever spent the money on promoting sustainable forestry practices.

My god, if they took just a faction of the money spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen and the Sudan, our forests would be in pristine condition.

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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When your only tool is your parent's barbecue lighter, everything looks like a brick of charcoal.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:14 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


People are trying to Drive
https://www.fodors.com/community/united-states/oregon-driving-route-wi
th-fires-1689696
/

500,000 are under evacuation orders
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1197653


From 4Chan so take it with a pinch of salt

Quote:

Hundreds of arson sightings are being called in. Residents are forming militias. Clackamas County OR is gone. Portland and Salem OR are surrounded by fire.

4,622,257 acres burning
https://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/nfn.htm
'We have never seen this'
The blazes could result in the “greatest loss of human lives and property due to wildfires in our state’s history"

https://pastebin.com/9EVn72hR

500,000 people statewide are under evac orders (10% of state population)
https://www.kptv.com/news/oregon-wildfires-1-million-acres-burned-500-
000-people-under-some-level-of-evacuation-order/article_e355b7ae-f3cb-11ea-a6ce-93011907052d.html


>why would antifa do this
Read: Prarie Fire, Days of Rage, Gulag Archipelago
>muh blue state
the areas that are burning are hard red

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WaWILDFIRE?src=hashtag_click
OregonFires
CaliforniaWildfires
#arsonexposed
https://twitter.com/KatieDaviscourt

FIRE MAP/CAM
https://tripcheck.com/DynamicReports/Report/Cameras
https://www.esri.com/en-us/disaster-response/disasters/wildfires
https://disasterresponse.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?
id=2ff1677111ae4018ac705fcce7c3312f

https://www.windy.com/?52.670,-137.109,4

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/police-arrest-multiple-suspects-in-connec
tion-with-west-coast-wildfires
/
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/sources-series-of-wildfires-may-be
-coordinated-and-planned-attack/
]

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/277340759/

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Monday, September 14, 2020 9:45 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When your only tool is your parent's barbecue lighter, everything looks like a brick of charcoal.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Did that trumptard who was arrested live with his parents?

Not surprising, really. He's mentally challenged, just like you. Incapable of earning a living with a mind so slow and full of nonsense. Just like you.

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Monday, September 14, 2020 10:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I've got everything I need and it's all paid for.

Once again, nobody has a single clue what the fuck it is you're talking about. Least of all you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, September 14, 2020 11:47 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've got everything I need and it's all paid for.

Once again, nobody has a single clue what the fuck it is you're talking about. Least of all you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Thank God for socialism, right?

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Nope. I made a lot of money before we outsourced all of the jobs and I didn't blow it on marriage and kids.

Bought my first house with cash when I was 32 years old.

But thanks for playing, idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020 11:23 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. I made a lot of money before we outsourced all of the jobs and I didn't blow it on marriage and kids.

Bought my first house with cash when I was 32 years old.

But thanks for playing, idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump Says Not to Worry About Climate Change as the West Burns

“It’ll start getting cooler,” Trump said. “You just watch.”

“I wish science agreed with you,” Trump was told. “Well, I don’t think science knows, actually,” Trump replied smirking.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/donald-trump-californai-de
nies-climate-change-wildfires.html


6ix, all the poor white trash I know, in Texas, own their homes and spend their free time repairing them. They are very proud of their workmanship and will be voting for Trump to protect their homes. Sounds like you, 6ix. They all have variations on your kind of problems: drinking/smoking/gluttony/drugs/tooth disease/trouble with their wives or girlfriends/trouble with their boss firing their dumb asses. Again, it is you, 6ix. You are not special, 6ix. You are just one in millions of very similar Trump voters with sad family histories.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:17 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. I made a lot of money before we outsourced all of the jobs and I didn't blow it on marriage and kids.

Bought my first house with cash when I was 32 years old.

But thanks for playing, idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Poor, uneducated, alone, and proud of it.

Yeah, a real success story...

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:13 PM

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Friday, September 18, 2020 3:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, I for one have never claimed - or even thought-that Antifa was setting forest fires. And I can't imagine HOW these rumors started ... except Antifa's history of setting fires in cities.


CA, where I live, has a long history of devastating forest fires, and their causes are almost always lightning strikes, downed power lines, regular arsonists, and human stupidity.

In the case of the fire nearest me (Bobcat Fire), apparently some stupid people had lit a campfire to "read the smoke" (believers in santeria, I was told) to see what sex their unborn baby was (I guess they couldn't afford an ultrasound). Other past human causes have included such things as "gender reveal" videos gone wrong, welding work, grinding work (sparks), illegal campfires, car fires, "back fires" gone out of control etc. Yanno, people being stupid and careless in a tinderbox when the wind is blowing like a bellows.


I just heard a report that one of the fires was started from the pyrotechics of a "gender reveal" event. I didn't catch which fire that was.

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Friday, September 18, 2020 7:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:I just heard a report that one of the fires was started from the pyrotechics of a "gender reveal" event. I didn't catch which fire that was.


Firefighter killed battling California wildfire sparked by gender reveal party
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/18/el-dorado-fire-death-california
-wildfire-gender-reveal
/
The firefighter died on Thursday in the El Dorado Fire some 70 miles east of Los Angeles

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Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:18 AM

REAVERFAN




Karma, bitch.

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Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You'd think that, but the only thing that happens is he gets a brand new house and our homeowners insurance premiums go up again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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