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No he didn't. You know full well he didn't. We were looking at that thing every day.

After the debate Trump was up on the coin flip, after the assassination attempt Trump was actually losing that coin flip. The day before Biden announced he was bowing out Trump was up by 51%.

We've got that history right here in these boards and you know that we do.

Stop letting them lie to you, especially when you can so very easily disprove it.

What is wrong with you?

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Trump will be fine.
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One of the worst character traits of Trumptards, including Trump, is their weakness at handling adversity. In the face of adversity, large or small, Trumptards have mental breakdowns. 6ix, in the event of election loss, you and Trump won't be showing courage or fortitude or, even, sanity.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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That's not a legitimate reply.

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Nobody cares about Trumptards or what they think. They are resources to be strip-mined and burned in furnaces to make heat.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Donald Trump says he’ll flee to Venezuela if he loses the election

Ex-president repeated unsubstantiated claim that Venezuela was sending all of its criminals to the US

The former president made the comment as part of a fear-mongering prediction during his X interview with Elon Musk on Monday.

“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela,” Trump said.

He told Musk that Venezuela had gotten rid of "about 70 percent of their really bad people," with the suggestion that their "really bad people" had all fled to the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-t
rump-flee-venezuela-election-b2595836.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Here's Why Americans Always Think the U.S. Is on the Wrong Track | Opinion

By David Faris | Aug 13, 2024 at 9:39 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/heres-why-americans-always-think-us-wrong-tra
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This is a remarkable story of policy failure that transcends any single event and tells us, instead, a story of elite inability to consistently improve the lives of ordinary citizens. Progress on the margins, like the Affordable Care Act, is not necessarily experienced as such because reforms left so much of a broken system intact. One small example—my two children had ear tube surgery in January of 2024, and I have subsequently received five different bills from three different entities over the course of eight months for a total out of pocket cost of more than $5,000 for a 10-minute surgery. If Gallup called me right now, you could guess what I would tell them.

The health insurance system, like many other things Americans encounter daily, feels like a scam. We encounter junk fees in doctor's offices and hospitals, when booking air travel, trying to manage our bank accounts, buying a car, initiating cable or internet service, buying tickets to a concert, and on and on and on. Silicon Valley entrepreneurs have consolidated entire industries like music, car-hires and food delivery under the control of apps that harm the individuals who actually produce the value and funnel wealth to a tiny elite. These little cuts suck billions of dollars out of the hands of working people every year while others enrich themselves. Our phones ring multiple times a day with confidence games and extortion plots on the other end. It is harder than ever for individuals to move up the income ladder.

This all creates systemic precarity for all but the upper-middle class and above. Most people, even those with good-paying jobs and the material trappings of success, are only one adverse life event—a cancer diagnosis or a failed business venture—away from total ruin. That's no way to live in one of the richest countries in the history of the world.

David Faris is an associate professor of political science at Roosevelt University and the author of It's Time to Fight Dirty: How Democrats Can Build a Lasting Majority in American Politics.

Download David Faris’s books for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=David+Faris

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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David Faris is an associate professor of political science at Roosevelt University and the author of It's Time to Fight Dirty: How Democrats Can Build a Lasting Majority in American Politics.

Download David Faris’s books for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=David+Faris

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I read this article yesterday morning.

I noticed your version of it is heavily abridged.

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And on January 20, 2017, we began dealing with the consequences: When President Trump was inaugurated, he launched a gratuitous, mean-spirited, and corrupt assault on the governing norms of Washington, D.C. and the patterns and expectations of the American political system. Toting with him into office an unstable entourage of D-list hacks, cartoonish weirdos, and dead-eyed ideologues, Donald Trump arrived in D.C. to deliver an apocalyptic, angry inaugural speech that sounded like Ernest Hemingway’s suicide note as interpreted by 4chan. In short, repetitive, declarative sentences, Trump proclaimed the end of “this American carnage” and promised that “from now on it will be America first, only America first.”12

After the speech, former President George W. Bush—no intellectual titan himself—reportedly remarked, “That was some weird shit.”13 But it quickly became clear that “America First” was more of a threat issued by gangsters about the order of execution than a promise to improve the material conditions of the country. Barely twenty-four hours into his presidency, Trump set the tone for the entire four years by marching his blithering press secretary Sean Spicer in front of the cameras with pictures of the inauguration that looked like they’d been blown up at the Target photo center to insist that Trump had “the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration—period—both in person and around the globe.”14 The claim was belied by the evidence sitting right next to him on the podium and by a million first-hand pictures and videos and reports floating around the Internet, all of which showed a relatively sparsely attended inaugural. Those members of the press corps observing the spectacle got that feeling of listening to a wedding speaker slowly melt down, the guests glancing furtively at each other, mouthing “Is this really happening?”

To make matters worse, the political organization that folded for Trump and followed him gleefully into total power had completed a decades-long journey to the extreme right of the American political spectrum. The marauding Republican Party that rolled victoriously into D.C. in January 2017 had lost all sense of public spirit and graciousness and lacked utterly any reason for existing other than the relentless pursuit and maintenance of political power for the express purpose of redistributing wealth from the poor and the middle classes to the wealthy. In the first year of Trump’s misrule, the GOP abdicated critical oversight functions and made excuse after excuse for the barely literate reality TV star in the Oval Office because they realized that they had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape American public policy and deliver on the lurid and generally unpopular promises they have been making their voters for years, not just to repeal Obamacare but to dramatically roll back the scope of the federal government, gut the progressive tax code by drastically lowering rates for corporations and top earners, crush the remaining and embattled pockets of organized labor, obliterate environmental regulations while reanimating the zombie coal industry, and appoint constitutional fanatics to the United States Supreme Court. Most of these positions are profoundly unpopular. GOP elites know that they have a president elected with 46 percent of the vote, that they lost seats in both the House and Senate in 2016, and that long-term demographic trends do not work in their favor unless they can continually increase their share of the white vote. Many saw in Donald Trump a vehicle for a last-ditch effort to dismantle what hard-core conservatives refer to derisively as “the administrative state”—the network of federal and state civilian agencies that manage the many complexities of modernity so that all citizens have the opportunity to live a decent life amid the ravages of capitalism. This is why one writer and former George W. Bush apparatchik (who would, of course, be appointed to a position in the Trump Administration) described 2016 as “the Flight 93 election: charge the cockpit or you die.”15

Such histrionic, This-Is-the-End readings of American politics are rarely correct, but Republican elites clearly felt that the election of Hillary Clinton, a careful, cautious technocrat with left-of-center but hardly radical views on most issues, would somehow tip the country into progressive authoritarianism. While they may have been wrong that a Clinton presidency would have been some kind of world-historical fulcrum point (a view that was decidedly not shared by the American left), on a deeper level they are right that American public opinion is moving slowly away from the market fundamentalism that has been the philosophy if not always the governing practice of the Republican Party since the late 1970s. Public opinion surveys suggest younger Americans are, for perhaps the first time in a century, open to being persuaded that government should play an even larger part in preventing capitalism from running amok. Seventeen- to thirty-four-year-olds in particular express much greater support for a government role in securing health care for all citizens and guaranteeing full employment than their older counterparts.16

Most worryingly for the GOP, millennials seem to support things like single-payer health care and more aggressive wealth-redistribution policies. Derided by their selfish elders, particularly the Baby Boomers, as flighty snowflakes with the attention spans of hamsters, millennials actually see straight through the lies told to them by a society dominated by conservatives since their parents were teenagers. They see that they are paying more and getting less than their parents, whether for college education or housing or medical care, and they are increasingly drawn to a social-democratic model whereby risk is pooled and an interventionist state makes public goods available for everyone in exchange for higher taxes. They are uninterested in casino capitalism. They are present and future progressives. The question posed by this book is whether these young progressives will ever live in a world where they are competing in a fair political fight with their conservative counterparts, or whether they think that new slogans or new policies will suffice.

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How many hundreds of billions did we hemorrhage into Ukraine? And Israel?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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How many hundreds of billions did we hemorrhage into Ukraine? And Israel?

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Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
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So, on one hand, Trump comes up with a stupid tax idea that will wreak both Social Security and Medicare at the same time. On the other hand, lets make Trump's stupid idea into law and also cancel things that Signym and Putin hate such as support for foreign countries.

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Ok, I get it.
You didn't like my response bc I didn't address Trump's tax idea.

So, is it stupid? On the face of it, yes. It ignores the fact that Social Security and Medicare are both underfunded. So is CA Medicaid BTW. You can't just yank out a source of funding without replacing it with SOMETHING.

So I was looking around for additional sources of funding.

If we get out of these stupid wars that we started (like Trump promised), we would be saving hundreds of billions every year

If we stopped funding Israel (something Trump woild never agree to ;
), that's in the realm of an additional $10-20 bilion per year.

If we tariffs imported goods (another Trump promise), that's more $ in government coffers.

I think it's stupid for the government to hand out money and then take some of it back. If you're paying someone the minimum and then taking money out of it again, that just seems like pretty purposeless bureaucratic makework, doesn't it? If you're just going to grab it back, why distribute it in the first place?

AFA Medicare is concerned, you have to pay a MINIMUM of $100 each month to buy the Medicare that you already supposedly paid for through your working life. Like I said, it seems like makework.

So if you want sources of funding SPECIFIC to Social Security, just raise the cap on Ss and Medicare taxes. And if you want to save Medicare, another option is to have Medicare negotiate for ALL drug prices, not just the dozen or so that are in the program.

So, yeah, stupid idea in isolation. Maybe not so stupid depending on other changes.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
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Trump’s Problem

Trump claimed Harris is responsible for a law in California that says it’s OK to steal from a grocery store as long as your take is under $950. (This is not what the law says.)

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NASA photo analyst: Bush wore a device during debate

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The question is, how long can they keep Harris hidden, and keep pumping out the narrative that she's the Next Best Thing?

After all, they stage managed Joe for years while he was deteriorating. YEARS.

They managed to to push answers into GWB's ear during his debate. Remember that "mysterious bulge" on GWB's back?

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Technology is SO much smaller today!

THUGR knows, in his heart, that Kamala is an empty-headed opportunist who will say and do anything to climb into power. That she'll scrape off anything she might have said previously and faithfully carry out the deepstate narrative

THAT'S WHAT HE'S HOPING FOR. He has a deep, abiding faith in authority's care for his well-being.

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You guys live in a fantasy. When Trump loses again, well, you still won't be able to accept reality. Trust me, you can bet I'll be laughing.

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