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Elections; 2024

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 8:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ironic, isn't it?
Hillary, the original purveyor of RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION! disinfo wants to censor "disinfo"

Quote:

Not Just 'Russia, Russia, Russia': Hillary Demands Criminal Charges For Americans "Engaged" In "Propaganda"24 - 06:20 PM

Amid claims that Trump is a "danger to this country and the world," Hillary Clinton - the original sinner of 'Russia, Russia, Russia'-propaganda - has called for anyone spreading "misinformation" to be criminally charged as a "better deterrence" ahead of the election.

Specifically, the former Secretary of State told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow on Monday that Americans "engaged" in "propaganda" - similar to the type that led to the Russians "boosting Trump" in 2016 - should face criminal prosecution.

"I think it's important to indict the Russians, just as Mueller indicted a lot of Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump back in 2016.

But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda. And whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence, because the Russians are unlikely, except in a very few cases, to ever stand trial in the United States," Clinton told Maddow.



Hillary, Hillary, Hillary...

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 7:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Though I'm under no illusion that foreign threats are very real, "Disinfo" or "Misinformation" is just an Establishment dog whistle for "anything outside of the messaging we want everyone to believe as truth".

Instead of using the tools that our very capable Alphabet agencies have at their hands to root this out and combat it as they always have until recently, they want to allow the threat of external influence manipulate enough of us collectively to willingly hand over the keys to the internet to them for the final time.

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 7:55 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Ironic, isn't it?
Hillary, the original purveyor of RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION! disinfo wants to censor "disinfo"

Quote:

Not Just 'Russia, Russia, Russia': Hillary Demands Criminal Charges For Americans "Engaged" In "Propaganda"24 - 06:20 PM

Amid claims that Trump is a "danger to this country and the world," Hillary Clinton - the original sinner of 'Russia, Russia, Russia'-propaganda - has called for anyone spreading "misinformation" to be criminally charged as a "better deterrence" ahead of the election.






Iran has been sending information they hacked from Trump to the Harris campaign and media outlets. They are ignoring it and working with the FBI to help stop it. This is what Clinton is trying to make sure doesn't happen again.

Trump, literally asked Russia to help and used anything he could to help himself. Remember Wiki leaks? See the difference comrade.

Now, within the next few days you will see one of the Russian spies who tried to frame Hunter Biden, Ukraine, meet face to face with Hunter so he can apologize.

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 8:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Ironic, isn't it?
Hillary, the original purveyor of RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION! disinfo wants to censor "disinfo"

Quote:

Not Just 'Russia, Russia, Russia': Hillary Demands Criminal Charges For Americans "Engaged" In "Propaganda"24 - 06:20 PM

Amid claims that Trump is a "danger to this country and the world," Hillary Clinton - the original sinner of 'Russia, Russia, Russia'-propaganda - has called for anyone spreading "misinformation" to be criminally charged as a "better deterrence" ahead of the election



THUGR: Iran has been sending information they hacked from Trump to the Harris campaign and media outlets. They are ignoring it and working with the FBI to help stop it. This is what Clinton is trying to make sure doesn't happen again.

Trump, literally asked Russia to help

Oh yeah? Where's the quote?
Quote:

and used anything he could to help himself. Remember Wiki leaks? See the difference comrade.

Now, within the next few days you will see one of the Russian spies who tried to frame Hunter Biden, Ukraine, meet face to face with Hunter so he can apologize.



You DO know that the FBI determined his laptop to be authentic, right?

Quote:

FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real in 2019, IRS whistleblowers say l

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1528606/fbi-knew-the-hunter-bi
den-laptop-was-real-in-2019-irs-whistleblowers-say
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Wikileaks. As far as I'm concerned, they did everyone a favor by reporting on sleazy DNC machinations.
And if somebody has genuine information on the Trump campaign, they should send it out to the media.

The only way people in a democracy can make INTELLIGENT decisions is on the basis of solid information. Not in the dark, and not being fed propaganda 24/7/365.

Yanno THUGR, you pretend to be all about freedom, but in reality freedom scares you.



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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 8:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Wikileaks are heroes.

They were heroes when they exposed GWB and the Republicans. They were heroes in 2016 when they exposed Clinton and the Democrats.

Ted still hasn't put 2 + 2 together on any front.

We're talking to somebody who may as well speak a different language. He is still living under an entirely fabricated reality.

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 9:18 PM

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One man’s stand against Donald Trump’s election conspiracies

After Trump claimed the 2020 Presidential election was “rigged,” a short documentary shows the effect of election conspiracies in the crucial jurisdiction of Maricopa County, Arizona, through the experience of one elected official.



Donald J. Trump’s escalating calls to investigate and prosecute election officials he sees as “corrupt” are sounding alarms among democracy experts and the local and state workers preparing to run elections and tally millions of votes across the country.

In recent social media posts, Mr. Trump has said that election officials “involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.” The November election, he added, “will be under the closest professional scrutiny and, WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again.”

On its face, the statements are promises to enforce the law. But coming from Mr. Trump, a politician who has repeatedly claimed to see corruption and fraud where there is no evidence of either and who as president pressured law enforcement officials to act on his complaints, the words raise the prospect that government officials could be investigated and prosecuted for conducting a fair election.

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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 9:44 PM

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Senator Lindsey Graham admits that Trump stopped the border bill. He stopped it for the sole reason that he wanted the "border issue" to campaign on. Trump doesn't care about the border or our country.

Graham basically said the Senate is taking orders from a guy who is not currently in office.

https://imgur.com/gallery/finally-we-know-who-tanked-border-bill-w4Jsc
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Sep 10, 2024,09:44pm EDT

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/09/10/harris-slams-trum
p-for-killing-border-bill-in-debate-here-are-the-facts
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The Border Act of 2024 was originally introduced in February by Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., following months of negotiations with Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz., and Murphy said the bill was also authored with the help of the White House and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

The bill quickly fell apart, however, as Trump vocally denounced the bill and urged Republicans not to pass it, calling it a “gift” to Democrats and writing on Truth Social, “A BAD BORDER DEAL IS FAR WORSE THAN NO BORDER DEAL.”

While Murphy told Politico lawmakers behind the bill initially believed they could get support from 20 to 25 Republicans, the legislation ultimately failed to advance in the Senate in a 49-50 vote.

Murphy then reintroduced the bill in May, but it failed again in a 43-50 vote—with even Lankford now voting against it, as Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, was the only GOP senator to support the legislation.

The $118 billion bipartisan bill was sweeping legislation that Greg Chen, senior director of government relations for the American Immigration Lawyers Association, told CNN was “probably the most extensive border funding and security package that we’ve seen in decades.”

What’s In The Border Bill?

The bill includes a number of provisions, such as imposing new restrictions on border crossings that would authorize the government to temporarily enact emergency measures and stop unauthorized crossings between official ports of entry if border crossings pass an average of 5,000 per day in a given week or 8,500 in a single day. The asylum process would also get an overhaul if the bill passed, including new restrictions, such as raising the legal standard to pass the initial assessment and giving asylum seekers fewer chances to have their case appealed before they’re forced to leave the country. The legislation would increase the use of alternatives to immigration detention facilities—like having immigrants wear ankle monitors—until their cases are heard. Those restrictions are balanced out by other measures that are more permissive toward immigration, however, like increasing funding for legal representation for minors under age 13, giving a pathway to citizenship for some immigrants from Afghanistan and increasing the number of job and family visas given each year for three years.

More at https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/09/10/harris-slams-trum
p-for-killing-border-bill-in-debate-here-are-the-facts
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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 10:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Senator Lindsey Graham admits that Trump stopped the border bill. He stopped it for the sole reason that he wanted the "border issue" to campaign on. Trump doesn't care about the border or our country.



Everybody hates Lindsey Graham. Fuck Lindsey's lies.



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Wednesday, September 18, 2024 11:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
What’s In The Border Bill?

The bill includes a number of provisions, such as imposing new restrictions on border crossings that would authorize the government to temporarily enact emergency measures and stop unauthorized crossings between official ports of entry if border crossings pass an average of 5,000 per day in a given week or 8,500 in a single day.



Anything short of 100% border shutdown and full deportation of illegal invaders already here is unacceptable.


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Thursday, September 19, 2024 12:27 AM

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What the debate revealed about Donald Trump

By Mark Mellman | 09/18/24 7:30 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/4885428-trump-debate-lying-gullibility/

Trump could have reacted in several ways when Vice President Harris noted that the Wharton Budget Model found his economic plan would “explode the deficit.”
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/

He could have ignored the attack and repeated the alleged virtues of his plan, or in MAGA style, ridiculed ivory tower academic economists, or attacked Harris’s plan, or focused on the inflation voters have felt under Biden-Harris or taken several other paths.

What was his first reaction? To lie.

“…I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan…”

In fact, not one Wharton professor seems to have endorsed his plan, let alone graded it “brilliant.”

Challenged in any way, Trump’s first reaction is not to survey the facts and knit them into a compelling argument. Rather it is simply to make-up a bald-faced lie.

That’s not a desirable character trait in a six-year-old or in a president.

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 1:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Still banging on about the debate, huh?

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 1:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


What debate?

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Still banging on about the debate, huh?

Trump and Signym have always been lying sacks of shit. Trump revealed himself many decades ago and continued at the debate. Signym's reveal was the first time I commented on something Signym wrote. And Vice-Presidential Candidate JD Vance revealed himself more recently:

Vance Pushed Lies About Haitians Despite His Office Knowing They Were B.S.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Vance's office reached out to Springfield officials about claims Haitian migrants were eating cats -- and ignored their denials

By Nikki McCann Ramirez | September 18, 2024

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/vance-lies-haitian
s-office-fact-check-1235105427
/

During a campaign event in Wisconsin on Tuesday, J.D. Vance told supporters that it’s not his job to check if a story is true before broadcasting it to his millions of supporters.

“The media has a responsibility to fact-check,” Vance said of false claims he’s spread accusing “illegal” Haitian migrants in the town of Springfield, Ohio, of killing and eating local pets.

Well, members of the media did fact-check Vance. As it turns out, the Ohio senator and his vice presidential campaign knew there was no credibility to the claims hours after he first aired them publicly, but chose to keep pushing them anyway, plunging the town into chaos.

According to a Wednesday report from The Wall Street Journal, on Sept. 9 — the day Vance first posted on X claiming local cats were being eaten by Springfield’s Haitians — most of which are in the town legally — his office called local authorities to verify the claim.

A Vance staffer “asked point-blank, ‘Are the rumors true of pets being taken and eaten [true]?’” City Manager Bryan Heck told the Journal. “I told him no. There was no verifiable evidence or reports to show this was true. I told them these claims were baseless.”

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So much loaded language, half-truths and outright lies in Rolling Stone in 2024.

Sad.

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
So much loaded language, half-truths and outright lies in Rolling Stone in 2024.

Sad.

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This is pretty straight forward, but not from Rolling Stone:

Republicans have to avoid a government shutdown this close to the election

Going into the November election, the biggest thing voters need to see is that the GOP can responsibly run the government, something they've failed to do over the last several years.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/09/19/house-repu
blicans-avoid-government-shutdown-trump-election/75256347007
/

Republicans stand to lose the most if they let Donald Trump create dysfunction in the process with the election so close.

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 6:04 AM

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Sure, Donald, let’s cap interest rates

Donald Trump just announced that he plans to institute a temporary cap of 10% on credit card interest rates "while working Americans catch up."
https://x.com/SwissWatchGuy/status/1836587728902799635

Sigh. It just doesn't matter what he says, does it? Most likely nobody will bother reporting this. Banks won't bother protesting it. Wonky bloggers like me won't bother explaining why Trump can't do it. Conservatives will mostly ignore the fact that this really is socialism, far worse than Kamala Harris's trivial price gouging proposal. In fact, just the opposite: His enablers will suddenly produce a spate of explanations for why it's a brilliant, far-reaching, and conservative proposal.

Stuff like this is a product of intersectionality: Trump is both mentally declining and willing to say any weird thing that pops into his fevered brain. Everyone knows it, so nobody takes anything he says seriously. He's treated like a five-year-old running for president.

More at https://jabberwocking.com/sure-donald-lets-cap-interest-rates/

BY THE WAY: Credit card debt isn't even an especially big issue right now.


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Thursday, September 19, 2024 6:29 AM

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Trump Insists He Was Named 'Man of the Year' in Michigan

Sep 18, 2024 at 2:21 PM EDT

He was not Man of the Year but he keeps insisting the media is wrong.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-trump-insists-he-was-named-man-yea
r-michigan-1955652


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Thursday, September 19, 2024 6:38 AM

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Donald Trump’s social media company, DJT, is now selling below its January price, so everybody who bought in after the Iowa primary surge is already a loser. Trump's fans—who are the ones propping up the price—seem to be losing faith daily in his chances of winning the election.



https://jabberwocking.com/time-for-trump-to-sell-some-stock/

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 7:03 AM

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Trump’s health care plan exposes the truth about his “populism”

The Republican ticket is taking on Big Cancer Patient.

by Eric Levitz | Sep 18, 2024, 1:10 PM CDT

https://www.vox.com/politics/372635/trump-health-care-plan-vance-preex
isting-conditions


Sen. JD Vance has fashioned himself as a different kind of Republican.

He is an “anti-regime,” “anti-elitist” populist who believes that America’s social order is “tilted toward the few.” He has decried traditional economic conservatism as an ideology that “subordinates human life and community to a false ideal of the market somehow existing independent of our society.” His conception of a just economy is purportedly informed by Catholic social teaching — specifically, the imperative to be “sympathetic with the meek and poor of the world without treating them primarily as victims” and “protective of children and families and with the things necessary to ensure they thrive.” In his address to the Republican National Convention, Vance suggested that Trump holds similar priorities, lauding him for narrowing the “divide between the few, with their power and comfort in Washington, and the rest of us.”

And yet, many of the Republican ticket’s actual policies bear little trace of this skepticism of markets or concern for the left-behind.

This is especially true of Trump’s newly revealed health care plan — or, at least, what the campaign has revealed of it. On Sunday, Vance disclosed that the new, “anti-regime” Republican Party’s plan for fixing America’s medical system is … to deregulate the health insurance market so that insurers can refuse coverage to those who need treatment the most.

The GOP ticket’s dismally familiar health care plan tells us two things about the party’s ascendant populism. First, it is much more novel in its rhetoric than its governing priorities. And second, even where it plausibly privileges “the many” over “the few,” it does not prioritize the weak over the strong.

Much more at https://www.vox.com/politics/372635/trump-health-care-plan-vance-preex
isting-conditions


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Thursday, September 19, 2024 10:22 AM

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It’s now all fiction. Donald Trump destroyed reality

Republicans are openly proud of their lies — but our disdain for the truth is bipartisan

By Brian Karem | September 19, 2024 9:00AM (EDT)

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/19/its-now-all-fiction-donald-destroyed-
reality
/

Let’s start with Donald Trump. The former president still won’t accept he lost the 2020 election, he lies about immigrants eating pets and continues his baseless claims that women are carrying fetuses full term – only to kill them after they are born. He's also an adjudicated rapist and convicted felon, but that’s another story.

The rampant stupidity and numb ignorance from him is frightening. But Trump is just the vanguard for political hatred and violence.

(On to Democrats)

I’m still trying to come to grips with the fact that thousands of pagers and walkie-talkies blew up simultaneously in Lebanon killing and injuring hundreds of people. The targets were apparently Hezbollah operatives targeted by the Israeli government, we’re told. Casualties included children. It was an act of blatant terrorism - and apparently taken by a sovereign nation. Who knew it could even be done? Who thought it up? How insidious is it? It’s like a scene out of a James Bond movie, or "The Kingsmen." It’s real comic book crap.

When I asked a senior White House official if they could speak to whether or not similar booby traps were contained in American communication devices I was rebuked; “I can’t speak to that.” I was told. Ummm, That’s not reassuring. Neither was NSC spokesperson John Kirby’s refusal to answer any specific questions in the briefing room Wednesday about who was behind the explosions, if we are in danger, or whether or not the conflict in the Middle East is widening - even as it obviously is. That we don’t acknowledge the widening of the conflict tells you just how pervasive propaganda and disinformation are within the government, politics and the press.

The only thing we know for certain, according to Kirby, is we weren’t behind the pager explosions. Israel? Our government ain’t saying nothin’. Not making it easy.

(Back to the Republicans)

So, I’m back to this: No one is making it easy for anyone these days. Donald Trump is merely the worst offender among the worst of us. But none of us are immune from fictional fabrications, and many in public life use those manipulations to make their lives easier at the expense of others.

In one of my last conversations with Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the White House during the Trump administration, she informed me she was leaving her post to take care of her kids.

“If you’re telling me the truth,” I said to her, “then good for you. Work will always be there but you only have one chance to raise your kids. That’s a wise choice.”

A short time after she left the White House she announced she was running for governor in Arkansas. Exactly. Flash forward and over the weekend she announced that her kids keep her humble and then attacked Vice President Kamala Harris for not having any kids to keep her humble. Sanders isn’t making it easy to like her with that statement. There was little truth and no humility in it. But hypocrisy and rage is all the MAGA crowd has left – and they play the few notes they have as virtuosos.

(The American public prefers their fictional versions of truth to actual reality)

Though Trump, again, is symptomatic of the disinformation problem, he is not the cause. We all share in that responsibility. Trump is merely the man most effective at using the tools to confuse you.

Much more at https://www.salon.com/2024/09/19/its-now-all-fiction-donald-destroyed-
reality
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Thursday, September 19, 2024 11:18 AM

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Scientific American Didn’t Need to Endorse Anybody

The magazine’s endorsement of a candidate undermines trust in expertise.

By Tom Nichols | September 18, 2024, 6:51 PM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/09/scientific-ame
rican-harris-endorsement-science-covid/679931
/

I understand the frustration that probably led to this decision. Donald Trump is the most willfully ignorant man ever to hold the presidency. He does not understand even basic concepts of … well, almost anything. (Yesterday, he explained to a woman in Michigan that he would lower food prices by limiting food imports—in other words, by reducing the supply of food. Trump went to the Wharton School, where I assume “supply and demand” was part of the first-year curriculum.) He is insensate to anything that conflicts with his needs or beliefs and briefing him on any topic is virtually impossible.

When a scientific crisis—a pandemic—struck, Trump was worse than useless. He approved the government program to work with private industry to create vaccines, but he also flogged nutty theories about an unproven drug therapy and later undermined public confidence in the vaccines he’d helped bring to fruition. His stubborn stupidity literally cost American lives.

It makes sense, then, that a magazine of science would feel the need to inform its readers about the dangers of such a man returning to public office. To be honest, almost any sensible magazine about anything probably wants to endorse his opponent, because of Trump’s baleful effects on just about every corner of American life.

Strange as it seems to say it, a magazine devoted to science should not take sides in a political contest. For one thing, it doesn’t need to endorse anyone: The readers of a magazine such as Scientific American are likely people who have a pretty good grasp of a variety of concepts, including causation, the scientific method, peer review, and probability. It’s something of an insult to these readers to explain to them that Trump has no idea what any of those words mean. They likely know this already.

Now, I am aware that the science and engineering community has plenty of Trump voters in it. (I know some of them.) But one of the most distinctive qualities of Trump supporters is that they are not swayed by the appeals of intellectuals. They’re voting for reasons of their own, and they are not waiting for the editors of Scientific American to brainiac-splain why Trump is bad for knowledge.

In fact, we have at least some evidence that scientists taking sides in politics can backfire.

More at https://angrybearblog.com/2024/09/should-scientific-american-endorse-p
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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The Actual Electoral Map Is Three States

If the former president wins the East Coast trio of Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia, he will go back to the White House.

By Jonathan Martin | 09/19/2024 05:00 AM EDT

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/19/trump-three-swing-st
ates-election-win-00179648


There are really only three states that will decide the presidential election: Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia.

If Vice President Kamala Harris can’t carry Pennsylvania, her only hope is on a Southern strategy. Harris must win either Georgia or North Carolina. She has no other path to the White House. The election could well be determined when polls close in the eastern time zone. (Well, yes, after the ballots are all counted.)

This isn’t to say the other four battlegrounds — Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada and Arizona — aren’t important. If Harris loses Pennsylvania, which her aides acknowledge is a highly challenging state, she’d still need to pick up one of the two Western states as well as one of the two Southern states to win — so long as she carries Michigan and Wisconsin.

Yet none of those other four battlegrounds are relevant if Trump first blocks her in Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina.

It’s the most obvious route for the former president and a reminder of the advantage the Electoral College can confer on a Republican. Should Trump defeat Harris in Pennsylvania, a state President Joe Biden spent much of his childhood in and still only carried by about 80,000 votes, her hopes then hinge on a pair of slightly right-of-center states Democrats have carried once each in this century: North Carolina (won by Barack Obama in 2008) and Georgia, which lined up with Biden in 2024.

“It comes down to seven battleground states, you got to win four of them in order to carry it,” Republican National Committee Chair Michael Whatley told me. “Except if you win Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, then that’s going to get you over the hump.”

Trump’s television advertising reflects his focus on the trio. He’s spent the most in Pennsylvania, not surprising given its pivotal nature and six media markets, and the second most in Georgia. Last week, he dumped $17 million in North Carolina, a state where he had not made extensive advertising buys for the rest of the campaign.

Much more at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/19/trump-three-swing-st
ates-election-win-00179648


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BY THE WAY: Credit card debt isn't even an especially big issue right now.



What a load of horseshit with your fake ass graphs, Kevin.

American credit card debt hit 1 Trillion for the first time this year.

So if that's 5% of American's disposable income, that means Kevin is saying that American's
currently have $20 Trillion in disposable income.

You must be including all of the billionaires and their disposable income in that figure.

I can assure you, Kevin, that outside of your lily-white gated community, credit card debt is
a very large issue for tens of millions of Americans. It's just one of a few major reasons
you're losing the minority vote and the only people who will be voting Democrat are the rich,
white, college "educated" people.

Tick Tock



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The Actual Electoral Map Is Three States



Should have picked Shapiro, huh?



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