REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Elections; 2024

POSTED BY: THG
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 16:36
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 66690
PAGE 97 of 97

Monday, November 25, 2024 7:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not that you're going to live long enough to see 2028, Kevin, but you're not helping Democrats win any elections going forward being just as wrong this as you've ever been about everything else.

Let's see what your real feelings on the issue are.
My real feelings are that Trumptards are full of shit, but falsely believe they are full of wisdom/virtue/competency/wholesomeness. The internal contradiction is why the private lives of Trumptards (including Trump's) are a mess.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 7:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Voters did indeed reject Kamala Harris over frustration with the Biden economy, but voters across the world are throwing out incumbents due to outrage over a very broad array of economic conditions. In Japan, inflation barely raised its head after the pandemic, and yet the reigning conservative government just took its biggest electoral hit in decades as its economy slips in and out of recession. The German economy hasn’t grown since the pandemic, and voters appear ready to oust the ruling center-left coalition as soon as they can. The U.K. is on its fourth prime minister since the pandemic and seems eager for a fifth.

The point here is not that the Biden administration was powerless to fight inflation—merely that every economic path out of the pandemic appears to have been durably unpopular. Much of the postmortem analysis of Biden’s economic performance amounts to a kind of wonked-up wishcasting: appeals to pet policies that would not have meaningfully restrained inflation, and which almost certainly would have generated a different set of unpleasant economic consequences. Democrats were not doomed from day one to lose the 2024 election, but getting them over the top would have required better politics from President Joe Biden, whatever the economics.

The Wall Street Journal lays out the standard conservative case against Biden, citing his $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill from early 2021 as the original sin that condemned Democrats to failure. But the Journal’s own numbers tell a different story, attributing only 0.6 percent of the total inflationary surge across 2021 and 2022 to Biden’s spending package. Inflation peaked in the summer of 2022 at 9.1 percent, meaning Biden barely added anything to the overall path of prices—a finding consistent with the prevailing consensus among economists. “The bottom line is that inflation’s rise and fall reflected primarily global drivers,” the International Monetary Fund concluded in September. Absent Biden’s stimulus, growth would have been weaker, unemployment higher, and wages lower—but prices would have been maddeningly high anyway.

Those knocking Biden for overspending, meanwhile, have been reluctant to detail just what they would have cut from what was indeed an ambitious economic agenda. Matthew Yglesias bemoans Biden’s supposed lack of urgency on inflation but can’t cite a fiscal misstep beyond student-debt forgiveness—a policy that the Supreme Court blocked, and which another student-debt hard-liner, the economist Jason Furman, calculated would have contributed only 0.2 or 0.3 percent to inflation anyway.

The problem with ripping Biden’s spending, of course, is that it was generally economically important and politically popular, to the extent that the public actually knew about it. Before Biden had even entered office, Democrats were framing the 2021 Senate runoffs in Georgia as a contest over an additional round of $1,400 stimulus checks—if Democrats won the seats, they’d use the resulting Senate majority to send cash to households, and they did. Biden’s opening stimulus legislation included not only those $1,400 victory checks but also one of his most successful policies: an expansion of the child tax credit from $2,000 per child to $3,600, ultimately reducing childhood poverty by 30 percent, to an all-time low. The program was so effective that both Harris and Trump campaigned on reviving it.

Even Biden’s sharpest intraparty critics on his opening stimulus legislation—Furman and perpetually perturbed economist Larry Summers—ultimately supported trillions of dollars in subsequent Biden spending on infrastructure, domestic microchip factories, and investments in clean energy technology. These bills were not written by progressive activists hopped up on TikTok, but rather negotiated with Senate Republicans and conservative Democrat Joe Manchin of West Virginia.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/inflation-pandemic-spendin
g-biden.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 8:32 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


UFOs or UAPs are in the news again

Multiple Drone Incursions Just Occurred Over USAF Fighter Base In England


Take the cash, theft and stealing and then dump it into your bank account in Montreal Canada

A former county treasurer pleaded guilty on Thursday to charges of embezzlement by a public official, money laundering and tax evasion after stealing more than $38 million in county funds between 2012 and 2024 to renovate her ranches, buy at least 20 cars and pay for personal expenses for herself and her family. Elizabeth Gutfahr served as the elected treasurer of Santa Cruz County, Arizona, from 2014 through April 12, 2024. During some of that time, she transferred funds from Santa Cruz County bank accounts to her personal Wells Fargo Bank account and a Bank of Montreal account.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-county-treasurer-pleads-guilty-2138
45800.html

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Banning ideas and authors is not a ‘culture war’ – it’s fascism


Yeah. So why have you Democrats been doing it for the last 6 years?

.


The Culture War might be One thing, I don't really follow any Team A vs Team B stuff, Left vs Right, Conservative vs Liberal I just don't follow it much


However the Earth is back into the era of DUCK AND COVER warnings and vids

Nukes?

How to survive a nuclear attack as US government shares chilling warning
https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/155746/fema-issues-updated-nu
clear-attack-survival-steps-world-war-3-fears-intensify

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 8:51 AM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

My real feelings are that Trumptards are full of shit, but falsely believe they are full of wisdom/virtue/competency/wholesomeness. The internal contradiction is why the private lives of Trumptards (including Trump's) are a mess.



Agreed TWO; but the problem includes the democrats pushing for, and insisting people accept, all this gender change nonsense allowing boys who decide they are girls, into locker rooms with actual 10 year old girls. Parents are against it. Democrats have turned the boy's problems' with gender confusion into everybody's problem. They've also turned female sports into a farce. Once male athletes, are beginning to dominant those at the top of female sports. Overnight, we've gone from two genders and or being gay, which I have no problem with, to unlimited genders made up by people with serious mental health issues. That, I have a problem with. And, the public is not allowed to have an opinion about all of this. I have a problem with that.

The democrats in the last 40 years have gone from a party for the working class, to the party of elitists. Professors in their Ivory towers dictating instead of representing. Add to that the transfer of wealth for these past forty years from the middle class to the top .001 %. It has been devastating. That said, while the democrats have dropped the ball, the republicans are the party responsible for this shift in wealth. The working class with realize this again when the dems stop fucking about.

The democrats are seeing the problem and are starting to react to it. They are beginning to move back to the middle. And as Trump and Musk destroy any benefits afforded to the working class over the years, the dems will get the voters back.

I just hope the damage is minimal. Examples; Kennedy being anti science leading to a brain drain from America because science grants go away. Or people no longer wanting to invest in the United States, build factories and such, because Trump deported the work force. Or, creates even more distrust in the justice department. The rule of law in America is what draws investors here. They feel as though their investments are safe.

Two years, two years before we will know.

T

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 10:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not that you're going to live long enough to see 2028, Kevin, but you're not helping Democrats win any elections going forward being just as wrong this as you've ever been about everything else.

Let's see what your real feelings on the issue are.
My real feelings are


Nobody asked you.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 10:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

My real feelings are that Trumptards are full of shit, but falsely believe they are full of wisdom/virtue/competency/wholesomeness. The internal contradiction is why the private lives of Trumptards (including Trump's) are a mess.



Agreed TWO; but the problem includes the democrats pushing for, and insisting people accept, all this gender change nonsense allowing boys who decide they are girls, into locker rooms with actual 10 year old girls. Parents are against it. Democrats have turned the boy's problems' with gender confusion into everybody's problem. They've also turned female sports into a farce. Once male athletes, are beginning to dominant those at the top of female sports. Overnight, we've gone from two genders and or being gay, which I have no problem with, to unlimited genders made up by people with serious mental health issues. That, I have a problem with. And, the public is not allowed to have an opinion about all of this. I have a problem with that.

The democrats in the last 40 years have gone from a party for the working class, to the party of elitists. Professors in their Ivory towers dictating instead of representing. Add to that the transfer of wealth for these past forty years from the middle class to the top .001 %. It has been devastating. That said, while the democrats have dropped the ball, the republicans are the party responsible for this shift in wealth. The working class with realize this again when the dems stop fucking about.

The democrats are seeing the problem and are starting to react to it. They are beginning to move back to the middle. And as Trump and Musk destroy any benefits afforded to the working class over the years, the dems with get the voters back.

I just hope the damage is minimal. Examples; Kennedy being anti science leading to a brain drain from America because science grants go away. Or people no longer wanting to invest in the United States, build factories and such, because Trump deported the work force. Or, creates even more distrust in the justice department. The rule of law in America is what draws investors here. They feel as though their investments are safe.

Two years, two years before we will know.

T


Most of what you're saying here is nonsense straight out of what will soon be known as "formerly MSNBC", and the next four years will prove that.

But good on you for recognizing some of Democrat's biggest problems right now. Most of the media either hasn't figured any of this out yet or they're just lying to you like they always do.

Here's hoping the next four years are a lot better than the last four were. I don't think Democrat voters enjoyed them all that much more than Republicans did.

At least I enjoyed the 4 years Trump was President while you guys were losing your minds. I intend to enjoy these next four too. I wonder if you will continue to lose your minds for the next 4 years, or maybe you'll do something more productive with your time.

I'm hoping you guys can chillax a bit this time.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:27 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

My real feelings are that Trumptards are full of shit, but falsely believe they are full of wisdom/virtue/competency/wholesomeness. The internal contradiction is why the private lives of Trumptards (including Trump's) are a mess.



Agreed TWO; but the problem includes the democrats pushing for, and insisting people accept, all this gender change nonsense allowing boys who decide they are girls, into locker rooms with actual 10 year old girls. Parents are against it. Democrats have turned the boy's problems' with gender confusion into everybody's problem. They've also turned female sports into a farce. Once male athletes, are beginning to dominant those at the top of female sports. Overnight, we've gone from two genders and or being gay, which I have no problem with, to unlimited genders made up by people with serious mental health issues. That, I have a problem with. And, the public is not allowed to have an opinion about all of this. I have a problem with that.
T
I'm nowhere near the median voter, and the question is how they feel. The answer, I believe, is that they often find liberal extremes scarier than conservative extremes, so when the extreme left gains influence they'll gravitate naturally toward conservatism even if it's also (or more) extreme. And it's mostly related to the mere existence of influential liberal extremes, not whether Democratic politicians actively endorse them. If they don't actively condemn them — yes, the dreaded Sister Souljah moment — then they're implicated and conservatives win. This is what happened in 2024.

The choice between two scary extremes is usually a move to the right
https://jabberwocking.com/the-choice-between-two-scary-extremes-is-usu
ally-a-move-to-the-right/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 12:10 PM

THG


Donald Trump won the election. Now he’s losing it.

On Nov. 5, Americans hired Donald Trump to do three things: put more money into their pockets; lower prices for gas, groceries and rent and restore order at the southern border.

Trump was not hired to gut the Justice Department, abolish the FBI, pardon the Jan. 6 rioters, weaken our intelligence agencies, eliminate the Department of Education or “go wild on health.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-donald-trump-won-the-e
lection-now-he-s-losing-it/ar-AA1uJ6Ma?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=13563d4b6cd045a5aff5cde246dcfb7b&ei=126


tick tock

T



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 12:12 PM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

My real feelings are that Trumptards are full of shit, but falsely believe they are full of wisdom/virtue/competency/wholesomeness. The internal contradiction is why the private lives of Trumptards (including Trump's) are a mess.



Agreed TWO; but the problem includes the democrats pushing for, and insisting people accept, all this gender change nonsense allowing boys who decide they are girls, into locker rooms with actual 10 year old girls. Parents are against it. Democrats have turned the boy's problems' with gender confusion into everybody's problem. They've also turned female sports into a farce. Once male athletes, are beginning to dominant those at the top of female sports. Overnight, we've gone from two genders and or being gay, which I have no problem with, to unlimited genders made up by people with serious mental health issues. That, I have a problem with. And, the public is not allowed to have an opinion about all of this. I have a problem with that.
T
I'm nowhere near the median voter, and the question is how they feel. The answer, I believe, is that they often find liberal extremes scarier than conservative extremes, so when the extreme left gains influence they'll gravitate naturally toward conservatism even if it's also (or more) extreme. And it's mostly related to the mere existence of influential liberal extremes, not whether Democratic politicians actively endorse them. If they don't actively condemn them — yes, the dreaded Sister Souljah moment — then they're implicated and conservatives win. This is what happened in 2024.

The choice between two scary extremes is usually a move to the right
https://jabberwocking.com/the-choice-between-two-scary-extremes-is-usu
ally-a-move-to-the-right/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Yup, that's what I said.

T

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 2:44 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


It will come as no surprise that every one of the progressive tax states voted for Kamala Harris and nearly all of the regressive tax states (8 out of 10) voted for Donald Trump.

In Minnesota the rich pay 70% more than the poor. In Florida the rich pay 79% less than the poor.

https://jabberwocking.com/in-nearly-every-state-the-poor-pay-a-higher-
tax-rate-than-the-rich/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 5:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Donald Trump won the election. Now he’s losing it.

On Nov. 5, Americans hired Donald Trump to do three things: put more money into their pockets; lower prices for gas, groceries and rent and restore order at the southern border.

Trump was not hired to gut the Justice Department, abolish the FBI, pardon the Jan. 6 rioters, weaken our intelligence agencies, eliminate the Department of Education or “go wild on health.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-donald-trump-won-the-e
lection-now-he-s-losing-it/ar-AA1uJ6Ma?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=13563d4b6cd045a5aff5cde246dcfb7b&ei=126


tick tock

T




You're wrong Ted. He was hired to do all of that too.

Just as the media has no clue why they lost the election, they have no clue what people who didn't vote like they do think either.

You didn't let him drain the swamp last time.

This time he's already started before he gets inaugurated.

Tick Tock




Disappointing though. You had an opportunity to fix the Democrat party after this loss, but instead you all chose the death of party.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 5:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It will come as no surprise that every one of the progressive tax states voted for Kamala Harris and nearly all of the regressive tax states (8 out of 10) voted for Donald Trump.

In Minnesota the rich pay 70% more than the poor. In Florida the rich pay 79% less than the poor.

https://jabberwocking.com/in-nearly-every-state-the-poor-pay-a-higher-
tax-rate-than-the-rich/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Wow. I've never seen such a loaded graph from Kevin before.

Do you know the thousands of variables that would go into stats to make this simple little graph?
Far more than Kevin Drum is capable of balancing, let alone even understanding if somebody
else presented the work to him.


But I guess in an election where people are tired of seeing their tax dollars going to entitlements
for illegal alien invaders, which all of those states hold a majority of them, this graph would
just be another legitimate reason why you lost as big as you did even if you're not going to
see it or admit the truth about it.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 5:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This post got buried on the last page under a bunch of irrelevant BS...

I've been saying for well over a week that D13 and D45 in California need to be investigated...




Nancy Pelosi's daughter posts bizarre video saying she was in California district to 'CURE ballots'... as Republican candidate's lead tumbles

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14105493/Nancy-Pelosi-daughte
r-christine-california-cure-ballots.html




Thanks to Jayne for pointing out this article. I hadn't actually read anything about these two districts or even the people who ran on either side. All I've been doing is looking at the numbers, like I did when I gave a more accurate prediction than ANYBODY in the media.





So it looks as though Nancy Pelosi's daughter has been deeply involved in both of those districts over the last week. I do think we should find out what days this happened and where specifically.

I'd like to know where Lil' Pelosi was on the days of Tuesday, November 19th and Wednesday, November 20th. What do you think the odds are that she was hanging out in Coalinga or Huron?




I wonder if this is the same daughter that fucked her mom over by recording Nancy saying that January 6th was her fault and not setting the device she recorded that on on fire immediately.

It wouldn't surprise me. That fuckin' dummy would have been able to just keep doing whatever she's doing and nobody ever would have reported on it if she didn't report on herself.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 5:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


POPULAR VOTE:

76,842,134 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,341,050 votes for Harris (48.4%).

Total votes counted: 151,183,184

Trump's lead: 2,501,084



COMPARED TO THE 2020 ELECTION:

The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*

The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.


The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,339,642 now.

Trump now has 2,618,765 more votes than he did in 2020.

Harris now has 6,941,866 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.


States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
Mississippi: 5% left
New York: 3% left
Oregon: 3% left
California: 2% left
Utah: 2% left


HOUSE:

We're still at 220 R / 213 D.

99% counted in both of them. I believe I heard one of them has the Republican up now by only something like 53 votes after Nancy Pelosi's daughter was over there cheating, while the other one saw the Republican winning by hundreds of votes and now the Democrat is winning after the Pelosi cheat.

As I said a while back, these two are going to get recounts. They should also be investigated by Trump.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 6:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Donald Trump won the election. Now he’s losing it.

On Nov. 5, Americans hired Donald Trump to do three things: put more money into their pockets; lower prices for gas, groceries and rent and restore order at the southern border.

Trump was not hired to gut the Justice Department, abolish the FBI, pardon the Jan. 6 rioters, weaken our intelligence agencies, eliminate the Department of Education or “go wild on health.”



Here's an article for you Ted, from one of your Lefty Legacy News sources...


CBS News poll finds Trump starts on positive note as most approve of transition handling

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-trump-transition-cabinet-pi
cks-2024-11-24/


Who cares that 41% don't approve? 48.3% of the voting public voted for Harris.

Trump could have filled his entire cabinet with a list that AOC gave him and 41% of Americans would still disapprove of Trump.

Trump's CLEAR mandate is now extending beyond the election. 15.1% of people who voted for Kamala Harris are even on board with what Trump has done so far. And if you look at any of the data in this poll, you'll see that the number is probably going to be quite a bit larger than that, with many of the questions saying they "Haven't Heard Enough" about a particular appointment or action. That doesn't mean that they disapprove... Just that they're not in the Approve column yet. (Which is where I suggest you find an open seat and pop a squat for the next 6 months and just see what happens in lieu of driving yourself insane out the gates this time).

You Ted, specifically, are actually hitting a few of the nails on the head while most of the rest of your party and the media are avoiding any blame for the outcome. I've mentioned several times in here over the years that I've noticed you are at least capable of calling out stupid things your party does, even if you only did so rarely.



Don't get all crazy now man. Let's see how this plays out. You've got no other choice at the moment. Perhaps YOU can start making some positive changes within the Democrat party and what issues they represent going and which unpopular choices they constantly push that they need to abandon going forward.

Our country is not healthy if only one party is dominating everything. Democrats need to get rid of the extremists in their party and get back to basics and sanity. And IDPol needs to die forever, first and foremost.

Don't you miss the 1990s? Aren't you sick of being dialed into the media 24/7 and in a shitty mood all the time? You and second were miserable the last 4 years and you guys were running the show.

It's got to be exhausting.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 9:02 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Top Trump advisor tried to shake down cabinet hopefuls
Trump aide investigated for financial gain

By Kevin Drum / Nov 25, 2024 at 5:57 PM

https://jabberwocking.com/top-trump-advisor-tried-to-shake-down-cabine
t-hopefuls/

Boris Epshteyn is in big trouble:

A top adviser to President-elect Donald Trump asked potential administration nominees to give him monthly consulting fees in exchange for advocating for them to Trump, a written review by Trump’s legal team concluded.... It found that among those whom Epshteyn had unsuccessfully solicited for payment was Scott Bessent, Trump’s pick for treasury secretary.

Trump commissioned the report after he heard allegations that Epshteyn had been asking potential Cabinet nominees and others for money, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the internal document.

Epshteyn is already under indictment in Arizona for promoting a fake electors scheme to overturn the 2020 election, but obviously Trump doesn't care about that. He's also been charged with assault a couple of times stemming from bar fights, but Trump doesn't care about that either. He's also something of an asshole, getting into screaming matches with colleagues, but Trump doesn't care. And guess what?

Trump told Just the News in a brief interview, "I suppose every President has people around them who try to make money off them on the outside. It's a shame but it happens," he said. "But no one working for me in any capacity should be looking to make money. They should only be here to Make America Great Again."

He continued to Just the News: "No one can promise any endorsement or nomination except me. I make these decisions on my own, period."

It sure doesn't sound like Trump cares much about this either. "It's a shame," but hey, in Trumpworld everyone is expected to be on the take.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 9:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh get fucked dude.

If you ever once admitted that you have a problem with how the Pelosis are worth over $200 Million from illegal insider trading, maybe somebody would take you seriously.

I have no idea who your Russian named Boris Epshteyn is, and I don't care.

Lock him up if he broke the law. No skin off my ball sack.




Let's stop the CONSTANT, CHRONIC holier than thou bullshit all the time from you, dude.

It's not a legitimate argument when you and your side are just as corrupt as everybody else is.

Why don't you get a fuckin' hobby so you aren't miserable for another 4 years.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:02 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh get fucked dude.

If you ever once admitted that you have a problem with how the Pelosis are worth over $200 Million from illegal insider trading, maybe somebody would take you seriously.

I have no idea who your Russian named Boris Epshteyn is, and I don't care.

Lock him up if he broke the law. No skin off my ball sack.
The Shady Reason Why Trump Might Not Sign Key Documents
A seemingly massive blunder could be a way for Donald Trump to cash in.

By Robert McCoy | November 25, 2024 1:47 p.m. ET

The president-elect’s transition team has not yet signed three memoranda of understanding—agreements the incoming administration typically completes with the federal government and current administration to ensure a smooth transition.

Richard Painter, a former Bush administration official, said of the delay: “Until they sign this agreement, they’re not yet government employees. They can do anything they want. They can have any conflicts of interest they want. They could be taking money from foreign governments for all we know.”

One of the agreements Trump has yet to sign would heavily restrict how much individuals and entities can donate to his transition effort. And, in a considerable break with tradition, Trump has so far refused to reveal who his transition donors are. Since foreign nationals can donate to presidential transitions, this raises definite red flags, as anyone could be trying to curry favor—and influence—with Trump without the American people knowing.

https://newrepublic.com/post/188807/donald-trump-transition-documents-
money

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. Because, you see... There is this magical piece of paper that we require the winner of the election to sign saying that they promise not to be a bad boy.

But if they don't sign it, then they can be a very very bad boy and nobody can do anything about it!!!!!!!

We never even knew this until now! Everybody just signed it before! If Trump doesn't sign this piece of paper he has full legal authority to be King Dictator Donald J. Adolph Hitler Trump for life!!!!!!

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!





Another made up story with anon sources and eternal-TDS sufferers.

Whatever dude.



I wonder if Richard Painter fielded that interview call from Kamala's campaign desk.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:10 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Another made up story with anon sources and eternal-TDS sufferers.

Whatever dude.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
How sad it must be believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

https://x.com/etanthomas36/status/1335605199700979712

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Another made up story with anon sources and eternal-TDS sufferers.

Whatever dude.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
How sad it must be believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty.

https://x.com/etanthomas36/status/1335605199700979712

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




I updated my last post while you wrote your reply. The new bit...

Quote:
Yup. Because, you see... There is this magical piece of paper that we require the winner of the election to sign saying that they promise not to be a bad boy.

But if they don't sign it, then they can be a very very bad boy and nobody can do anything about it!!!!!!!

We never even knew this until now! Everybody just signed it before! If Trump doesn't sign this piece of paper he has full legal authority to be King Dictator Donald J. Adolph Hitler Trump for life!!!!!!

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!!!!!!!!!!



It's not that I believe Trump at all dude. I just don't believe any of YOUR so-called experts about anything. They're all shit. They're all liars. And they're all going to be dismantled.

Who's going to buy MSNBC now? Maybe Elon?



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:22 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I updated my last post while you wrote your reply. The new bit...
Every single time I talk to a Trumptard about anything other than banalities (weather, sports, traffic, music, etc) they reveal why their lives are so fucked up. Your life is fucked up, 6ix, whether you know it or not. So is Trump's.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Monday, November 25, 2024 11:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody gives one single crap about your judgements about other people. Not here and not in your real life where people who are forced to be around you have to pretend that they don't hate you.

If you want to talk about real issues, be my guest.

Any posts of yours that are insulting anyone will be ignored.

We are done with your bullshit.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 2:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:
Originally posted:
It will come as no surprise that every one of the progressive tax states voted for Kamala Harris and nearly all of the regressive tax states (8 out of 10) voted for Donald Trump.

In Minnesota the rich pay 70% more than the poor. In Florida the rich pay 79% less than the poor.

https://jabberwocking.com/in-nearly-every-state-the-poor-pay-a-higher-
tax-rate-than-the-rich/
Are Drum and Frum really just 2 sock puppets of the same moronic Libtard?

This clown can't even count to 10.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 2:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nice catch.

Kevin Drum's stupid little graphs are made for dumb people, by dumb people. I give them little more than even a cursory glance these days, so I wouldn't have caught that.

As I told Second before, the amount of work necessary to get to those stats is far more than Kevin could comprehend if all the data were given to him, let alone anything he'd ever be able to work out by himself.

I guess failing to count to 10 properly was below even my expectations for him.





I don't know who you're referring to as "Frum", but if you're asking whether or not Second is Kevin Drum, I've asked that several times myself. I don't remember the context now, but there's been at least one time if not twice that I accused Second of actually being Kevin Drum.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:37 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives one single crap about your judgements about other people. Not here and not in your real life where people who are forced to be around you have to pretend that they don't hate you.

If you want to talk about real issues, be my guest.

Any posts of yours that are insulting anyone will be ignored.

We are done with your bullshit.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
You know that America is the greatest country on Earth because it allows people to make their own choices about their lives. If you have good judgment, you prosper, which tends to angry those who have bad judgment and are stuck with their poor choices until they die. I see how Trumptards are doing. I know which kind of judgment they are exercising when reality collides with their choices.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:39 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Matthew Yglesias
Nov 26, 2024

Many of Donald Trump’s appointments reflect the highly personalistic nature of his politics. His health team thus far features a mix of wildly under-qualified individuals (RFK Jr.), people with impeccable credentials (Jay Bhattacharya), and others who are somewhere in between (Dr. Oz). But they’re all pretty eccentric, and it’s not clear that they really have a unified view on major public policy questions. I have no idea what any of these guys think about Medicaid, for example. The only thing they really have in common is that they backed Trump in his disagreements with the public health establishment over the Covid pandemic.

The national security team is even more all over the map, ranging from conventional GOP hawk Marco Rubio as Secretary of State to possible Russian intelligence asset Tulsi Gabbard as DNI.

All of these people have decided to pretend to believe that Trump agrees with them on key issues, so they’ll work for him and hope for the best in terms of influencing policy. That’s an attitude that even clearly extends to his Vice President and heir apparent J.D. Vance, who (like Rubio) called Trump a huckster and a scammer, but eventually decided that Trump is a really effective huckster and scammer, so he should jump on the bandwagon and try to wield influence from the inside.

As Charlotte Swasey writes, while many people find this incoherent and egomaniacal approach to politics off-putting, it has a lot of genuine electoral upside for the GOP: “By forcing Republicans to embrace his weird, self interested, quasi-populist brand, he’s expanded their appeal across the electorate and made them tolerate more heterodoxy.” You might get canceled in GOP circles for saying it’s bad that Republicans now have one sexual assaulter in the Oval Office and another in charge of the Defense Department. But you’re allowed to believe basically anything about substantive public policy and remain a MAGA foot soldier in good standing, as long as you’ll say that Trump is a good guy, persecuted by “elites” and “the establishment.” The selection of random flunkies to run agencies like Agriculture, Justice, Housing, and Transportation is consistent with that — these are just Trump loyalists, nobody knows or cares what Brooke Rollins thinks about agricultural policy.

The big exception is the economic team, where Trump seems to have sweated his choices and where most of the players are big names.

This team is more substantively impressive than his other picks, and financial markets have (so far) greeted Trump fairly enthusiastically as a pro-business Republican who’ll be good for growth and good for profits.

But I think it’s here that the limits of Trump’s “new” GOP come into play. Trump's economic team is on a collision course with reality. Making the budget math work is really hard.

https://www.slowboring.com/p/trumps-economic-team-is-on-a-collision

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives one single crap about your judgements about other people. Not here and not in your real life where people who are forced to be around you have to pretend that they don't hate you.

If you want to talk about real issues, be my guest.

Any posts of yours that are insulting anyone will be ignored.

We are done with your bullshit.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
You know that America is the greatest country on Earth because it allows people to make their own choices about their lives. If you have good judgment, you prosper, which tends to angry those who have bad judgment and are stuck with their poor choices until they die. I see how Trumptards are doing. I know which kind of judgment they are exercising when reality collides with their choices.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm fine. I haven't worked since summer of 2019 and everything I own is paid for in full.




Oh... and RFK is exceedingly qualified to be doing what he's doing.

Your smear campaigns will fall on deaf ears and have no effect.

Nobody believes your sources about anything anymore except for what's left of you remaining True Believers.

You are a joke.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 9:05 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives one single crap about your judgements about other people. Not here and not in your real life where people who are forced to be around you have to pretend that they don't hate you.

If you want to talk about real issues, be my guest.

Any posts of yours that are insulting anyone will be ignored.

We are done with your bullshit.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
You know that America is the greatest country on Earth because it allows people to make their own choices about their lives. If you have good judgment, you prosper, which tends to angry those who have bad judgment and are stuck with their poor choices until they die. I see how Trumptards are doing. I know which kind of judgment they are exercising when reality collides with their choices.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



I'm fine. I haven't worked since summer of 2019 and everything I own is paid for in full.




Oh... and RFK is exceedingly qualified to be doing what he's doing.

Your smear campaigns will fall on deaf ears and have no effect.

Nobody believes your sources about anything anymore except for what's left of you remaining True Believers.

You are a joke.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
When Trumptards talk about Libtards, it's all about the oppressive elites looking down on hardworking Americans with good morals. The Trumptards misinterpret my amusement as agreement with them. I'm smiling because the absurd little Trumptards aren't hard workers, they aren't being abused by the elite, and they aren't even Christians, more like Pagans. Their various "aren't" are not something they understand because they aren't aware of being stupid lowlifes deservedly getting the shitty end of the stick.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 9:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You have some serious problems dude.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 9:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Also, I don't ever remember lording my morals over you or anyone else.

Unlike you, I don't lie to myself about who I am.

Your simplistic view of the world is that of a 5 year old's.

Grow up.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 9:20 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You have some serious problems dude.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Trumptards, including Trump, are the people on America's Funniest Home Videos, but they don't get the joke, they don't see how funny their lives are. You Trumptards constantly get things backwards and upside down so that you, in your imagination, are living on top and not who you really are: bad examples, bad characters, people who wallow in depravity, habitually doing what healthy/normal people avoid.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 11:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You have some serious problems dude.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Trumptards, including Trump, are the people on America's Funniest Home Videos, but they don't get the joke, they don't see how funny their lives are. You Trumptards constantly get things backwards and upside down so that you, in your imagination, are living on top and not who you really are: bad examples, bad characters, people who wallow in depravity, habitually doing what healthy/normal people avoid.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Do you feel as though this behavior is constructive?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 4:18 PM

THG


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

:
Trumptards, including Trump, are the people on America's Funniest Home Videos, but they don't get the joke, they don't see how funny their lives are. You Trumptards constantly get things backwards and upside down so that you, in your imagination, are living on top and not who you really are: bad examples, bad characters, people who wallow in depravity, habitually doing what healthy/normal people avoid.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Agreed...

T

Trump's Cabinet Picks: Loyalty Over Experience


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 4:34 PM

THG


Looks like anyone who is unemployed is going to have to get a job. Too funny...

T

Trump gets what he deserves over tariff threat


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Tuesday, November 26, 2024 7:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It took three weeks because you're a pussy and a coward, Ted, but apparently we know now that you've thrown away this potential growing moment and that you've learned nothing.

I was right about everything, and every one of your formerly never-ending tick tock threads got shut down on you overnight.

Enjoy the next 4 years. I know I will.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 1:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm not going to bother updating popular vote counts today. There might have been 50k more votes combined.

I forget if I mentioned late last night that California now shows 99%. Same for Utah. Again, I don't know exactly what that means. They could be done or they're still counting votes.


Oregon and New York still have 3%. Mississippi still has 5%. Washington D.C. looks like it's back on our list with only 98% counted too. Everything else looks to be 99% on the map.


--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 7:29 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you feel as though this behavior is constructive?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
The only realistic and effective way to handle habitually stupid people such as Trump or his Trumptards is to kick their ass until they never forget what is unacceptable and evil behavior. Here is some of that behavior by Trump:

How Trump Plans to Seize the Power of the Purse From Congress

The second-term president likely will seek to cut off spending that lawmakers have already appropriated, setting off a constitutional struggle within the branches. If successful, he could wield the power to punish perceived foes.

By Molly Redden | Nov. 26, 6 a.m. EST

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-impoundment-appropriations-co
ngress-budget

Donald Trump is entering his second term with vows to cut a vast array of government services and a radical plan to do so. Rather than relying on his party’s control of Congress to trim the budget, Trump and his advisers intend to test an obscure legal theory holding that presidents have sweeping power to withhold funding from programs they dislike.

“We can simply choke off the money,” Trump said in a 2023 campaign video. “For 200 years under our system of government, it was undisputed that the president had the constitutional power to stop unnecessary spending.”

His plan, known as “impoundment,” threatens to provoke a major clash over the limits of the president’s control over the budget. The Constitution gives Congress the sole authority to appropriate the federal budget, while the role of the executive branch is to dole out the money effectively. But Trump and his advisers are asserting that a president can unilaterally ignore Congress’ spending decisions and “impound” funds if he opposes them or deems them wasteful.

Trump’s designs on the budget are part of his administration’s larger plan to consolidate as much power in the executive branch as possible. This month, he pressured the Senate to go into recess so he could appoint his cabinet without any oversight. (So far, Republicans who control the chamber have not agreed to do so.) His key advisers have spelled out plans to bring independent agencies, such as the Department of Justice, under political control.

If Trump were to assert a power to kill congressionally approved programs, it would almost certainly tee up a fight in the federal courts and Congress and, experts say, could fundamentally alter Congress’ bedrock power.

“It’s an effort to wrest the entire power of the purse away from Congress, and that is just not the constitutional design,” said Eloise Pasachoff, a Georgetown Law professor who has written about the federal budget and appropriations process. “The president doesn’t have the authority to go into the budget bit by bit and pull out the stuff he doesn’t like.”

Trump’s claim to have impoundment power contravenes a Nixon-era law that forbids presidents from blocking spending over policy disagreements as well as a string of federal court rulings that prevent presidents from refusing to spend money unless Congress grants them the flexibility.

In an op-ed published Wednesday, tech billionaire Elon Musk and former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who are overseeing the newly created, nongovernmental Department of Government Efficiency, wrote that they planned to slash federal spending and fire civil servants. Some of their efforts could offer Trump his first Supreme Court test of the post-Watergate Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which requires the president to spend the money Congress approves. The law allows exceptions, such as when the executive branch can achieve Congress’ goals by spending less, but not as a means for the president to kill programs he opposes.

Trump and his aides have been telegraphing his plans for a hostile takeover of the budgeting process for months. Trump has decried the 1974 law as “not a very good act” in his campaign video and said, “Bringing back impoundment will give us a crucial tool with which to obliterate the Deep State.”

Much more at https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-impoundment-appropriations-co
ngress-budget

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 9:23 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


In the age of Trump, America should take a page from Machiavelli

By John Jeffries Martin, opinion contributor - 11/27/24 7:00 AM ET

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5005123-in-the-age-of-trump-ameri
ca-should-take-a-page-from-machiavelli/

Ever since Donald Trump was re-elected, I have been haunted by a passage in Machiavelli’s “The Prince.”

“Whoever becomes the master of a city accustomed to freedom, and does not destroy it, may expect to be destroyed himself; because, when there is a rebellion, such a city justifies itself by calling on the name of liberty and its ancient institutions, never forgotten despite the passing of time and the benefits received from the new ruler.”

Trump intuitively grasps this. Now “master of a city accustomed to freedom,” he is determined to destroy it before it destroys him.

The president-elect’s Cabinet nominations make this clear. They include individuals who will hunt down immigrants with the goal of expelling them (by the millions), others who will politicize the military and compromise U.S. intelligence, still others who will gut and weaponize the Department of Justice, and an entitled anti-vaxxer who will undercut many of the agencies that protect our health. In addition, his energy policies will exacerbate rather than mitigate the ravages of climate change.

Finally, Trump’s creation of a new office — the Department of Government Efficiency, led by two untethered billionaires — will shred scores of programs on which the American people rely.

In short, we are watching an assault on American democracy. Our republic is eroding before our eyes. And we have been complicit.

The Senate could have convicted Trump for his efforts to overturn the will of the people in the 2020 election but declined to do so. The Department of Justice could have moved far more quickly to hold him accountable for both this crime and his removal of top-secret documents from the White House when he retreated to Mar-a-Lago in 2021. The Democratic Party could have held a real primary to select a viable candidate to oppose Trump in this year’s election.

Over and over again, we have faltered. And now it is not clear we will have the ability to bring an end to Trump’s relentless attack on our republic — an attack that is happening in plain daylight.

But Machiavelli’s text offers a glimmer of hope. Machiavelli, after all, lived at a similar inflection point in history. Florence, one of the great Renaissance republics, was being transformed into a monarchy even at the moment he was writing. But Machiavelli was not crafting, as many believe, a handbook for princes. To the contrary, throughout the text, he makes it clear that he believes the people can fight to preserve their freedoms.

On this front, it is the second half of the sentence above that matters. Machiavelli was calling on Florentines to remember their freedoms. But we too, some 500 years later, are a people “accustomed to freedom” — and to preserve our freedoms we have the power of “calling upon on the nature of liberty and [our] ancient institutions.”

It is easy to recognize the liberties we are losing and will continue to lose if Trump has his way and is unchecked — as seems likely — by an obsequious Congress. It is urgent that we draw on our own memories of what the U.S., for all its flaws, has been.

We must remember that in our country, before Trump 2.0, the U.S. Senate exercised the right of “advice and consent” when it came to presidential appointments; earlier, too, the president did not enjoy blanket immunity; the office of attorney general was independent of presidential whim; women had the right to control their own bodies; immigrants could not be deported without a hearing; public health policy was determined by science; the right to vote was protected; and there was some progress (though not enough) in the pivot to renewable forms of energy.

Trump knows we have these memories. This is why, driven by his own paranoia, he is seeking to destroy our liberties. He knows that the very institutions he is now attacking (the Justice Department, the Pentagon, the Senate) have the potential to hold him in check. We have to fight back.

“The Prince” is a timely read right now. But Machiavelli understood that reading alone is not enough. What Machiavelli was seeking was an informed people who would fight for their freedoms. More than two centuries later, at the dawn of the age of democratic revolutions, the Enlightenment philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau understood this. In “The Social Contract” he observed that Machiavelli, “under the pretense of instructing kings … has taught important lessons to the people. Machiavelli’s ‘Prince’ is a handbook for republicans.”

At the core of this handbook is the idea of liberty. Trump has every reason to fear that the American people, not only remembering but also cherishing this idea, will do everything they can to preserve the institutions that protect their freedoms.

Indeed, since his programs involve stripping away freedoms from nearly all Americans, it is likely that both those who supported him and those who opposed him will join together in this fight.

John Jeffries Martin, a history professor at Duke University, is the author, most recently, of “A Beautiful Ending: The Apocalyptic Imagination and the Making of the Modern World” (Yale, 2022).
Download the free book from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=John+Jeffries+Martin

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 12:57 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Trump’s win is part of a worldwide trend

Why are people all over the world angry at “the system”?

2024 was the first year in recorded history when incumbents have lost vote share in every single developed democracy that held a contest, with Vice President Kamala Harris actually performing better than all but one of her developed-world peers. Since 2020, incumbent parties in Western democracies have lost 40 out of 54 elections — meaning the odds of an incumbent defeat in the past few years have been just shy of 80 percent. Dominant incumbent parties have suffered election setbacks or even outright defeats in places as diverse as South Africa, India, and Japan. Even some of the exceptions to the “incumbents lose” rule of late bolster the point, as they tend to have some kind of anti-system credential (see the Morena party in Mexico, for example).

More at https://www.vox.com/politics/388284/trump-2024-win-global-anti-incumbe
nt-system

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 1:36 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Donald Trump’s team has signed some key documents needed to begin the transition, but they’re still refusing to agree to everything.

Donald Trump is shirking decades-old norms intended to make the transfer of power smoother, according to The New York Times.

After weeks of delays, the president-elect’s team has finally signed a standard transition agreement with the White House to start briefing staff members. But they are still refusing to sign two other key documents. One is a Justice Department agreement to let the FBI perform security clearances for transition team members. This means that the Biden administration still isn’t able to share classified information with anyone from Trump’s transition team. The Trump team also won’t sign the General Services Administration agreement, which provides secure office space and government email accounts.

The Trump team has not commented on whether it does intend to sign the agreements sometime in the near future.

https://newrepublic.com/post/188861/trump-finally-signs-transition-doc
uments-catch

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 2:43 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


“Political polarization is harming our health in just about every way,” says Matthew Motta, a political scientist and health law scholar who studies anti-science attitudes at Boston University — and “pretty much all aspects of health have become politicized.” That leads elected officials and other authority figures to make bad health policy decisions and communicate with the public in ways that link health behavior with partisan ideology. A public that sees everything through a red-or-blue lens is more likely to distrust experts, dislike policies with clear health benefits, embrace policies with clear health risks, and make self-destructive choices.

These dynamics aren’t exclusive to a single party, says Jay Van Bavel, a psychologist at New York University who studies social identity and morality: Nobody is immune from the tricks polarization plays on the brain.

That makes this a particularly interesting time to be thinking about how polarization affects the decisions we make about our health. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President-elect Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) — one of the US’s most influential leadership roles in health — isn’t just an anti-vaccine advocate with a shaky grasp on science. He’s also a partisan shapeshifter: A scion of one of America’s most consequential Democratic dynasties, he ran for president as a Democrat, only to endorse Trump as the Republican candidate later in the campaign.

More at https://www.vox.com/even-better/388130/polarization-political-partisan
-health-rfk-jr

How Antivaxxers (such as RFK Jr.) Sound Like To The Rest Of Us (Gordon Scott)

I once almost choked to death while eating food. I did my own research and discovered that I am not alone. Thousands of people choke every year while eating, and hundreds of those people die. That’s why I don't feed my kids. It’s dangerous. Now plenty of people will point out that food supposedly "prevents starvation," and that might be true, but it’s not fair to completely ignore all the dangers food poses, like choking, allergies, gingivitis, and garlic breath. I'm just saying, do your own research and decide what you think is best for your kids. If you choose to give your kids potentially deadly food, that’s your problem, but as a parent, I don't think the government has any right to tell me that I need to feed my kids.

https://www.threads.net/@soopa_mario/post/DBl6yTpJlvp

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 4:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you feel as though this behavior is constructive?

--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
The only realistic and effective way to handle habitually stupid people such as Trump or his Trumptards is to kick their ass until they never forget what is unacceptable and evil behavior.


Good luck with that, pussy.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 4:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump’s win is part of a worldwide trend

Why are people all over the world angry at “the system”?

2024 was the first year in recorded history when incumbents have lost vote share in every single developed democracy that held a contest, with Vice President Kamala Harris actually performing better than all but one of her developed-world peers. Since 2020, incumbent parties in Western democracies have lost 40 out of 54 elections — meaning the odds of an incumbent defeat in the past few years have been just shy of 80 percent. Dominant incumbent parties have suffered election setbacks or even outright defeats in places as diverse as South Africa, India, and Japan. Even some of the exceptions to the “incumbents lose” rule of late bolster the point, as they tend to have some kind of anti-system credential (see the Morena party in Mexico, for example).

More at https://www.vox.com/politics/388284/trump-2024-win-global-anti-incumbe
nt-system

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



It's no surprise that as bad as she did, Harris did better than everyone else in the world.

I told you the world you thought you were living in doesn't exist.

Buckle up, buttercup.



--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, November 27, 2024 4:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
How Antivaxxers (such as RFK Jr.) Sound Like To The Rest Of Us (Gordon Scott)

I once almost choked to death while eating food. I did my own research and discovered that I am not alone. Thousands of people choke every year while eating, and hundreds of those people die. That’s why I don't feed my kids. It’s dangerous. Now plenty of people will point out that food supposedly "prevents starvation," and that might be true, but it’s not fair to completely ignore all the dangers food poses, like choking, allergies, gingivitis, and garlic breath. I'm just saying, do your own research and decide what you think is best for your kids. If you choose to give your kids potentially deadly food, that’s your problem, but as a parent, I don't think the government has any right to tell me that I need to feed my kids.


I could see where you get confused on this issue. You were so greedy for those vaccines and you took as many as they would allow. If nobody cut you off, you'd have dosed yourself multiple times everyday.

I wouldn't advise taking any advice from a "social scientist" that looks like this.





--------------------------------------------------

Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE
6ixStringJack 11.27 01:19
second 11.27 07:29
second 11.27 09:23
second 11.27 12:57
second 11.27 13:36
second 11.27 14:43
6ixStringJack 11.27 16:26
6ixStringJack 11.27 16:28
6ixStringJack 11.27 16:36

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Wed, November 27, 2024 17:47 - 7510 posts
What's wrong with conspiracy theories
Wed, November 27, 2024 17:06 - 21 posts
Ellen Page is a Dude Now
Wed, November 27, 2024 17:05 - 238 posts
Bald F*ck MAGICALLY "Fixes" Del Rio Migrant Invasion... By Releasing All Of Them Into The U.S.
Wed, November 27, 2024 17:03 - 41 posts
Why does THUGR shit up the board by bumping his pointless threads?
Wed, November 27, 2024 16:43 - 32 posts
Joe Rogan: Bro, do I have to sue CNN?
Wed, November 27, 2024 16:41 - 7 posts
Trump, convicted of 34 felonies
Wed, November 27, 2024 16:38 - 43 posts
Elections; 2024
Wed, November 27, 2024 16:36 - 4845 posts
Biden will be replaced
Wed, November 27, 2024 15:06 - 13 posts
Hollywood exposes themselves as the phony whores they are
Wed, November 27, 2024 14:38 - 45 posts
NATO
Wed, November 27, 2024 14:24 - 16 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Wed, November 27, 2024 13:23 - 4773 posts
 VIEW MORE TOPICS 

FFF.NET SOCIAL