Sign Up | Log In
REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS
Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:12 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:29 PM
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:51 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: What Republicans (and anyone else) who support Trump need to know THE SERIOUS ANSWER: Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:56 PM
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 8:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: In just five days, Trump has set the country back nearly 100 years The president’s new slogan might as well be “We were better off 95 years ago than we are today.” By Dana Milbank | March 4, 2025 at 11:36 p.m. EST https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/03/04/trump-tariffs-ukraine-speech-congress-backward/
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 9:09 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: The United States pursued a protectionist policy from the beginning of the 19th century until the middle of the 20th century. Between 1861 and 1933, they had one of the highest average tariff rates on manufactured imports in the world ... The new government needed a way to collect taxes from all the states that was easy to enforce and had only a nominal cost to the average citizen. The Tariff Act of 1789 was the second bill signed by President George Washington imposing a tariff of about 5% on nearly all imports, with a few exceptions ... Paul Bairoch called the U.S. “the mother country and bastion of modern protectionism.” ... In Report on Manufactures, which is considered the first text to express modern protectionist theory, Alexander Hamilton argued that if a country wished to develop a new activity on its soil, it would have to temporarily protect it. According to him, this protection against foreign producers could take the form of import duties or, in rare cases, prohibition of imports. He called for customs barriers to allow American industrial development and to help protect infant industries, including bounties (subsidies) derived in part from those tariffs. He also believed that duties on raw materials should be generally low.[14] Hamilton argued that despite an initial "increase of price" caused by regulations that control foreign competition, once a "domestic manufacture has attained to perfection... it invariably becomes cheaper".[12] In this report, Hamilton also proposed export bans on major raw materials, tariff reductions on industrial inputs, pricing and patenting of inventions, regulation of product standards and development of financial and transportation infrastructure. Hamilton was the first to use the term "infant industries" and to introduce it to the forefront of economic thinking. He believed that political independence was predicated upon economic independence. Increasing the domestic supply of manufactured goods, particularly war materials, was seen as an issue of national security. And he feared that Britain's policy towards the colonies would condemn the United States to be only producers of agricultural products and raw materials.[13][12] Britain initially did not want to industrialize the American colonies, and implemented policies to that effect (for example, banning high value-added manufacturing activities). Under British [AND GLOBALIST] rule, America was denied the use of tariffs to protect its new industries. Thus, the American Revolution was, to some extent, a war against this policy, in which the commercial elite of the colonies rebelled against being forced to play a lesser role in the emerging Atlantic economy. This explains why, after independence, the Tariff Act of 1789 was the second bill of the Republic signed by President Washington allowing Congress to impose a fixed tariff of 5% on all imports, with a few exceptions.[15] Between 1792 and the war with Britain in 1812, the average tariff level remained around 12.5%, which was too low to encourage consumers to buy domestic products and thus support emerging American industries. When the Anglo-American War of 1812 broke out, all rates doubled to an average of 25% to account for increased government spending. The war paved the way for new industries by disrupting manufacturing imports from the UK and the rest of Europe. A major policy shift occurred in 1816, when American manufacturers who had benefited from the tariffs lobbied to retain them. New legislation was introduced to keep tariffs at the same levels —especially protected were cotton, woolen, and iron goods.[16] The average rate rose to 35% in 1816. The public agreed, and by 1820, the average rate in the U.S. had risen to 40%. Between 1816 and the end of World War II, the U.S. had one of the highest average import tariffs on manufactured goods in the world. ... From 1871 to 1913, "the average U.S. tariff on dutiable imports never fell below 38 percent [and] gross national product (GNP) grew 4.3 percent annually, twice the pace in free trade Britain and well above the U.S. average in the 20th century," notes Alfred Eckes Jr, chairman of the U.S. International Trade Commission under President Reagan.[18]
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 9:12 PM
Quote: “So, going forward, what country would ever sign a trade agreement with the United States
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 9:15 PM
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The definition of "foreign aid": Where poor people in rich countries give money to rich people in poor countries.
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:40 PM
Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:30 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:19 AM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:08 AM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 4:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: ... and I always think about that... What do they need more money for? At the end of the day it IS all fiat currency.
Quote: If you took just 10% of the wealth out of the hands of the truly wealthy and dispersed it equally, you'd likely double the living standards of half the people overnight.
Quote:mI'm talking about how do you permanently change the system ...
Thursday, March 6, 2025 5:05 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Lots of ideas.
Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I'm talking about how do you permanently change the system so that 10% of that uber-wealthy money rotting in savings and investments is freed up and ends up in places that would make lives better. I don't want to hear any arguments from anyone about this can't be done. I know full well that my parents Boomer generation had it a hell of a lot better than anyone who came after them. How do we get back to that?
Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:55 AM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 10:22 AM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 11:08 AM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:14 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:27 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The Musk-Trump War on Federal Employees Doesn’t Add Up DOGE operatives claim that mass layoffs are necessary to prevent the U.S. government from going bankrupt. Let’s do the math. By John Cassidy | March 3, 2025
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'd call it global monopolism, or global financialism. Hard to believe, but Karl Marx actually predicted this. ***** Getting back to your previous post .. Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: ... and I always think about that... What do they need more money for? At the end of the day it IS all fiat currency. It's not money, it's power over anyone who needs the money. Quote: If you took just 10% of the wealth out of the hands of the truly wealthy and dispersed it equally, you'd likely double the living standards of half the people overnight. No. All you'd do is double prices. Any time you dump money into a system without increasing production you create the recipe for inflation: Too much money chasing too few goods. What you'd have to do is funnel that money either thru productive activity ... raising more beef cattle or egg-laying hens or anythung else people are short of .... needs more ranchers etc ... or thru services like medical care ... more doctors and nurses etc ... to make a real difference in people's lives. Quote:mI'm talking about how do you permanently change the system ... I don't think you can ever PERMANENTLY change a system. It seems no matter what system you start with - tribalism, feudalism/monarchism, capitalism, socialism, financialism - it eventually winds up being corrupted. Power and money behave like gravity: the more you have, the more you get. Even Russia, which is doing amazing things with its current crop of leadership and the next generation afterwards, will eventually grow its own set of parasites. One problem is that the powerful warp societal norms so that people wind up believing the situation is NORMAL. People believed, really believed, the shaman could cure or curse them. They believed that kings and queens received their authority from God, thru the Pope. They believed that socialism will lead to a "new man". That Israel has a god-given right to all of the Levant. They believed that GREED IS GOOD, that the "free market" will lead to a glorious society. A lot of people still feel that way, and that any restraint on "free markets" and "free trade" is inherently bad, and that governments are inherently evil. Anyway, I don't think we can get back to the way things were 60 years ago. The USA was in a unique situation back then as the last industrial power left standing. We have to deal with the world of today. Somehow, we have to deal with our own oligarchy, at least get them to stay out of politics. Possibly not globally, but chip away at their influence issue by issue. The border and DEI fell pretty quickly. (Just goes to show how committed they were to "the causes". /snicker) Seeing more of a fight on Ukraine/Russia and DoD spending overall, and tariffs. If DOGE wants to tackle something big, they should put the DoD under a microscope. And I know Trump is doing his best to extricate us from the money pit they call Ukraine, but he should take that lesson and apply it globally. Reset our military's mission to DEFENDING THE USA, not having active duty troops in every nation of the world except N Korea, Afghanistan, Libya, Western Sahara, Iran, Iraq, Eritriea, and Venezuela (and I'm not sure about some of them) Troops in the Congo? Troops in Brazil? Troops in Madagascar? https://brilliantmaps.com/us-troops-overseas/ Also, personally, I feel it would be better rebuilding the USA sector by sector, maybe starting with steel, aluminum, and specialty chemicals/ pharmaceuticals. That way you wouldn't have tariffs from high impact nations hitting the whole economy all at once. Eventually tho we have to tackle how people AND corporations manage to accumulate so much wealth. Breaking up monopolies. Outlawing certain forms of speculation (like high frequency trading) that are totally non productive. Rewriting tax law and corporate law. Lots of ideas. Not enuf time. ----------- "Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I'm talking about how do you permanently change the system so that 10% of that uber-wealthy money rotting in savings and investments is freed up and ends up in places that would make lives better. I don't want to hear any arguments from anyone about this can't be done. I know full well that my parents Boomer generation had it a hell of a lot better than anyone who came after them. How do we get back to that?It is as easy as 1-2-3: 1) What percent of the workforce was unionized in 1965 vs today? https://www.google.com/search?q=what+percent+of+the+workforce+was+unionized+in+1965+vs+today As union membership has fallen over the last few decades, the share of income going to the top 10 percent has steadily increased. 2) What was the highest income tax rate in 1965 vs today? https://www.google.com/search?q=What+was+the+highest+income+tax+rate+in+1965+vs+today In the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, the top federal income tax rate never dipped below 70 percent. 3) How much tax does Trump pay? https://www.google.com/search?cq=How+much+tax+does+Trump+pay $750 per year The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'd call it global monopolism, or global financialism. Hard to believe, but Karl Marx actually predicted this. ***** Getting back to your previous post .. Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: ... and I always think about that... What do they need more money for? At the end of the day it IS all fiat currency. It's not money, it's power over anyone who needs the money. Quote: If you took just 10% of the wealth out of the hands of the truly wealthy and dispersed it equally, you'd likely double the living standards of half the people overnight. No. All you'd do is double prices. Any time you dump money into a system without increasing production you create the recipe for inflation: Too much money chasing too few goods. What you'd have to do is funnel that money either thru productive activity ... raising more beef cattle or egg-laying hens or anythung else people are short of .... needs more ranchers etc ... or thru services like medical care ... more doctors and nurses etc ... to make a real difference in people's lives. Quote:mI'm talking about how do you permanently change the system ... I don't think you can ever PERMANENTLY change a system. It seems no matter what system you start with - tribalism, feudalism/monarchism, capitalism, socialism, financialism - it eventually winds up being corrupted. Power and money behave like gravity: the more you have, the more you get. Even Russia, which is doing amazing things with its current crop of leadership and the next generation afterwards, will eventually grow its own set of parasites. One problem is that the powerful warp societal norms so that people wind up believing the situation is NORMAL.
Quote:Eventually tho we have to tackle how people AND corporations manage to accumulate so much wealth: Breaking up monopolies. Outlawing certain forms of speculation (like high frequency trading) that are totally non productive. Rewriting tax law and corporate law. Lots of ideas. Not enuf time. SIX: A lot of good ideas in there. I'm glad I even saw it. Second had a bad TDS flare up this morning.
Quote: "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Thursday, March 6, 2025 3:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I'd call it global monopolism, or global financialism. Hard to believe, but Karl Marx actually predicted this. ***** Getting back to your previous post .. Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: ... and I always think about that... What do they need more money for? At the end of the day it IS all fiat currency. It's not money, it's power over anyone who needs the money. Quote: If you took just 10% of the wealth out of the hands of the truly wealthy and dispersed it equally, you'd likely double the living standards of half the people overnight. No. All you'd do is double prices. Any time you dump money into a system without increasing production you create the recipe for inflation: Too much money chasing too few goods. What you'd have to do is funnel that money either thru productive activity ... raising more beef cattle or egg-laying hens or anythung else people are short of .... needs more ranchers etc ... or thru services like medical care ... more doctors and nurses etc ... to make a real difference in people's lives. Quote:mI'm talking about how do you permanently change the system ... I don't think you can ever PERMANENTLY change a system. It seems no matter what system you start with - tribalism, feudalism/monarchism, capitalism, socialism, financialism - it eventually winds up being corrupted. Power and money behave like gravity: the more you have, the more you get. Even Russia, which is doing amazing things with its current crop of leadership and the next generation afterwards, will eventually grow its own set of parasites. One problem is that the powerful warp societal norms so that people wind up believing the situation is NORMAL. I need to strengthen that statement: People believe the situation is INEVITABLE. I just now noticed that in all of those examples, the power structures were underpinned by BELIEF SYSTEMS, founded on NON-HUMAN forces: Spirits, who could bring you good luck and fortune, or ruin your health and family. An all-seeing, all-knowing, all-powerful god who could send you to eternal torture. The inevitability of communism thru dialectical political economic progression. God (again). "The invisible hand" of "the free market", underpinned by a view of "human nature" as greedy, and the purifying forces of social Darwinism (This is SECOND'S emotional home, with The Hand Of God thrown in.) In many ways, our view of the power structure is a religion, which makes the resulting power structure seem inevitable, and not what it really is: Sociopaths in charge of a society's belief system. Quote:Eventually tho we have to tackle how people AND corporations manage to accumulate so much wealth: Breaking up monopolies. Outlawing certain forms of speculation (like high frequency trading) that are totally non productive. Rewriting tax law and corporate law. Lots of ideas. Not enuf time. SIX: A lot of good ideas in there. I'm glad I even saw it. Second had a bad TDS flare up this morning. Indeed. Point being, the wealthy accumulate wealth thru specific procedures that are often based in our laws. If they examine those procedures Congress could, in theory anyway, rewrite those laws. For example: corporate personhood. REALLY? Corporate responsibility: Publicly- traded companies SOLE RESPONSIBILITY mandated by law is to protect the wealth of shareholders, as a fiduciary. No responsibility towards public health or welfare (except as limited by regulation). To give you and idea how far we drifted, in early USA, corporations had a time limit (typically 20 years), and were restricted to one commodity or one activity. They were often set up for a single project eg. building a road, raising a public building. What would happen if corporations were simply made illegal, and all corporations had to become privately held companies? No more stock options! No more corporate personhood! No more speculating on the stock market! Another idea: what if Glass Steagall was revived? What if banks were required to have 25%, or more, reserves? What if the Federal Government HAD ITS OWN BANK. ("The Fed", despite its deliberately confusing name, is a PRIVATE consortium of the largest PRIVATE banks, not a government institution.) What if states, counties, and cities created their own banks? (There are some already.) They could then lend to enterptises that they thought needed development, whether it was homebuilding or breadmaking or oil drilling? Just tossing out ideas to shake up assumptions. Quote: "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:17 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: What would happen if corporations were simply made illegal, and all corporations had to become privately held companies? No more stock options! No more corporate personhood! No more speculating on the stock market!
Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:01 PM
Quote:Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?
Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:12 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 8:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: "He's treating us like a good he can purchase," said Aleqa Hammond, Greenland's first female prime minister. "He's not even talking to Greenland - he's talking to Denmark about buying Greenland."
Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: "He's treating us like a good he can purchase," said Aleqa Hammond, Greenland's first female prime minister. "He's not even talking to Greenland - he's talking to Denmark about buying Greenland." Sounds like somebody better stop crying, pull up her big girl pants and have a chat with the Denmark leadership. I don't blame anybody for not taking the "Prime Minister" of Greenland seriously. The town I was born in has a greater population than Greenland does. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:11 PM
Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?Trump and Musk’s Plan to Destroy Social Security Started Tuesday Night
Friday, March 7, 2025 6:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Do you feel like the winds of change are blowing today too?Trump and Musk’s Plan to Destroy Social Security Started Tuesday Night
Friday, March 7, 2025 6:53 AM
Friday, March 7, 2025 11:41 AM
Friday, March 7, 2025 11:46 AM
Friday, March 7, 2025 11:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, can you feel the winds of change blowing?
Friday, March 7, 2025 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, can you feel the winds of change blowing? Yup. The world you thought you were living in 6 months ago no longer exists. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Friday, March 7, 2025 1:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, can you feel the winds of change blowing? Yup. The world you thought you were living in 6 months ago no longer exists. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon6ix, Trump will stop your Medicaid for diabetes and your brother's SSI for being an afflicted child and your aunt's Social Security for being old.
Quote:You will all be paying inflated prices because that's the world Trumptards will die for once Trump gets his way.
Friday, March 7, 2025 1:22 PM
Quote: SIGNY: ... and all corporations had to become privately held companies? No more stock options! No more corporate personhood! No more speculating on the stock market! SECOND: What's the largest privately owned company in the world? SpaceX.
Quote: Where have I heard that name in connection to Trump?
Friday, March 7, 2025 1:25 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Can you imagine what would happen if that process was applied to hospital corporations?
Friday, March 7, 2025 1:30 PM
BRENDA
Friday, March 7, 2025 1:32 PM
Friday, March 7, 2025 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And altho privately held companies don't have to issue quarterly/ annual reports, they DO have to pay taxes. Maybe those tax filings should be made public, since I don't believe that companies have a privacy right. That would help guide consumers to the comoanies offering the best value for money.
Friday, March 7, 2025 2:04 PM
Friday, March 7, 2025 2:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What do you think of this, Sigs? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/03/06/treasury_secretary_bessent_were_going_to_transition_from_a_public-sector_to_private-sector_economy.html -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Quote: BESSENT: "When you think about 25% of GDP flowing through area code 202, everybody's trying to skim a portion of it, trying to reallocate it," he said. "This has been a government-driven economy, you want to make this a private sector-driven economy. We want to, as I understand it, disempower the public federal bureaucracy and re-empower the kind of risk-taking and investment that goes along with private sector advances." ***** LARRY KUDLOW: What you know that I saw a study just to finish this point, over 10 years the differential between 3% growth and 1.8% growth comes to about three trillion dollars of extra money which could be poured in for any number of private sector uses. TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT: Yeah, and again Larry, it's back to the predictability that if we can do that and then all those benefits actually accrue out into the economy, not to the bondholders, not to the government.
Quote: LARRY KUDLOW: And just one last point on the budget being DOGE. DOGE savings, are you, I saw it's interesting, a poll, a Democratic poll, my friend Mark Penn in his poll, 69% favored the idea of a $1 trillion budget savings, I'll call it, from Elon Musk and DOGE. This is a Democratic poll, so it's quite interesting. As you incorporate your big six projections and you put out a Trump budget, you are doing it at OMB obviously. Is there a DOGE, you know, is there a DOGE spot for this, and perhaps how much might that be? TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT: Larry, I don't know yet, but to think that there's no waste, fraud, or abuse in the US government, you know, think about it. Now that I live in DC, 25% of US GDP blows through area code 202. Everybody is trying, there are all these markers on that same thing, Americans with healthcare, every Monday is paying for your healthcare. But when you think about 25% of GDP flowing through area code 202, everybody's trying to skim a portion of it, trying to reallocate it. I don't know what the savings level can be, but I think examining a lot of these contracts, a lot of this employment. I was with Glenn Youngkin, Governor of Virginia, the other day, and I thought he would, all these people are in a state over government layoffs. So his Northern Virginia would probably be the area most affected, and he said, "Governor, how are you handling this, how are you messaging it?" And he said, "We have 350,000 private sector jobs available in Virginia. My office has a portal up, and anyone can go on the portal and come and join us in the private sector.
Quote: LARRY KUDLOW: I mean, that goes to your theory which I think President Trump has adopted, but it was your note, your idea. You want to, this has been a government-driven economy, you want to make this a private sector-driven economy. We want to, as I understand it, disempower the public federal bureaucracy and re-empower the kind of risk-taking and investment that goes along with private sector advances. You'll see headlines, "Federal jobs are down, oh my God," but the fact is private jobs, the fact is the private sector should be vastly bigger than the public sector anyway, and your tax policies have a lot of it. So I want to end on your theory to re-privatize the economy, which I think is so important and should in fact be a global model for other countries. TREASURY SECRETARY SCOTT BESSENT: Well, Larry, everyone knows what they should do, it's just do they have the willpower to do it. For any of you who haven't read it, Mario Draghi two weeks ago in the Financial Times had a very good piece on European competitive paper that he together and where he talks about that intra is actually terrifying themselves more than America ever could because of their high regulatory burden. I think that as we bring down this spending, and we're not going to do it all at once, I'm not in the habit of repeating private conversations, but I will tell you, the first time I went in to see President Trump, talk about getting involved with the campaign, he looked at me and said, "Scott, how are we going to get this debt and deficit down without killing the economy?"
Quote: And I've been thinking non-stop about that for past 15, 18 months now, and I really do think it's this transition from public to private that will bring down or will deleverage the government. And as I talked about, that's why I wanted to lead with it today to this group, that we will relever the private sector, and part of the key to releveraging the private sector is cutting regulation, making the tax policy permanent, and getting our regulated banking system going again. I have, I think that private credit is exciting, it's the breadth, depth of our capital markets, it's something that is new in our capital markets, but we also have to get the regulated entities lending again. I think that they can coexist, and I think Main Street, in terms of the regulated entities that being squeezed, it's really happened at the smaller regional banks, small banks, and community banks, which hits Main Street. And like I said, Wall Street's done great, Wall Street can continue doing well, but this administration is about Main Street.
Quote: Higher inpatient prices are significantly associated with higher profits per adjusted discharges for all price quartiles. Hospitals in the highest inpatient price group earn $1,552 more operating profits per adjusted discharge than hospitals in the lowest price group.
Friday, March 7, 2025 6:38 PM
YOUR OPTIONS
NEW POSTS TODAY
OTHER TOPICS
FFF.NET SOCIAL