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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This thread has 590 posts, and almost 12 full pages. Has Thuggery ever made any actual point in any of his posts? Somewhere around half of the posts must be his.

I thought of going through the pages to look see if anything posted by Ted was ever solid, but the endless stream of nonsense posted here was daunting.

So, 6ix, is there any posts that he made which are valid? Obviously, some are still unresolved since they have not yet played out. But are there any which have run the course of the topic, and how many?





I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it.




... is what everybody reading any post of Ted's thinks when reading any post of Ted's.

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I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it. Anybody posting or visiting the site can see you have posted in old threads 50 times since the last person, other than you posted there. Even my, not to old threads have you posting again and again, always off topic.

And what do these posts of yours have in common? You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. Almost always, your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.

Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.



Incorrect usage of comma after "my". How many fucking times are you going to use the wrong version of to/too/two? IT'S TOO IN THIS CASE, RETARD.

Not that the sentence fragment is even real English to begin with.

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And what do these posts of yours have in common?


Every post of yours consists of 1 or more of 3 following themes...

1. Clickbait bullshit and headlines doing the thinking for you.

2. Cartoons doing the thinking for you.

3. Your illiteracy.

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You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. And most times your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.


Now I think you're just confusing JSF for Jaynez.

But you're also more or less explaining your own dumbassery again.

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Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.


Nah. We're going to shit on all of your dumbass threads to nowhere, loser.

You're too much of a coward and a pussy to make any posts in real threads with actual topics of substance.







You crack me up Gilligan. Trump is a convicted felon. He has been convicted of sexual assault. His NY company was convicted of fraud. He also was able to defer 4 other felony indictments worth about another 30 felonies, until the election, so they got tossed.


All on appeal or tossed and nothing will be paid. I don't care about any of your political warfare, and nobody else does either.

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He is betraying our friends and praising our enemies. He is openly corrupt. The list of his injudicious acts is endless.


None of this is true.

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An example is women and children starving to death because of his cuts to a gov. department with an already small budget. Or all the people who are going to die because they are about to lose their health care. People who may be dealing with cancer or something else.


Show me one example.

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You side with him. Nothing about you Jack is respectable, or to be taken seriously.


I side with America.

You side with MS13, Tren de Argua, men in women's bathrooms and sports, wide open borders and unchecked immigration, anti-whitism, $2.5 Trillion in debt added every year to fund all of your unaffordable brainwashing and a long post history of thousands of other anti-American ideas and values.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:34 PM

THG



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This thread has 590 posts, and almost 12 full pages. Has Thuggery ever made any actual point in any of his posts? Somewhere around half of the posts must be his.

I thought of going through the pages to look see if anything posted by Ted was ever solid, but the endless stream of nonsense posted here was daunting.

So, 6ix, is there any posts that he made which are valid? Obviously, some are still unresolved since they have not yet played out. But are there any which have run the course of the topic, and how many?





I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it. Anybody posting or visiting the site can see you have posted in old threads 50 times since the last person, other than you posted there. Even my, not to old threads have you posting again and again, always off topic.

And what do these posts of yours have in common? You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. Almost always, your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.

Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.>



... is what everybody reading any post of Ted's thinks when reading any post of Ted's.

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You're too much of a coward and a pussy to make any posts in real threads with actual topics of substance.







You crack me up Gilligan. Trump is a convicted felon. He has been convicted of sexual assault. His NY company was convicted of fraud. He also was able to defer 4 other felony indictments worth about another 30 felonies, until the election, so they got tossed.

He is betraying our friends and praising our enemies. He is openly corrupt. The list of his injudicious acts is endless.

An example is women and children starving to death because of his cuts to a gov. department with an already small budget. Or all the people who are going to die because they are about to lose their health care. People who may be dealing with cancer or something else.

You side with him. Nothing about you Jack is respectable, or to be taken seriously.

T



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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 2:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This thread has 590 posts, and almost 12 full pages. Has Thuggery ever made any actual point in any of his posts? Somewhere around half of the posts must be his.

I thought of going through the pages to look see if anything posted by Ted was ever solid, but the endless stream of nonsense posted here was daunting.

So, 6ix, is there any posts that he made which are valid? Obviously, some are still unresolved since they have not yet played out. But are there any which have run the course of the topic, and how many?





I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it.




... is what everybody reading any post of Ted's thinks when reading any post of Ted's.

Quote:

I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it. Anybody posting or visiting the site can see you have posted in old threads 50 times since the last person, other than you posted there. Even my, not to old threads have you posting again and again, always off topic.

And what do these posts of yours have in common? You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. Almost always, your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.

Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.



Incorrect usage of comma after "my". How many fucking times are you going to use the wrong version of to/too/two? IT'S TOO IN THIS CASE, RETARD.

Not that the sentence fragment is even real English to begin with.

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And what do these posts of yours have in common?


Every post of yours consists of 1 or more of 3 following themes...

1. Clickbait bullshit and headlines doing the thinking for you.

2. Cartoons doing the thinking for you.

3. Your illiteracy.

Quote:

You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. And most times your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.


Now I think you're just confusing JSF for Jaynez.

But you're also more or less explaining your own dumbassery again.

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Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.


Nah. We're going to shit on all of your dumbass threads to nowhere, loser.

You're too much of a coward and a pussy to make any posts in real threads with actual topics of substance.







You crack me up Gilligan. Trump is a convicted felon. He has been convicted of sexual assault. His NY company was convicted of fraud. He also was able to defer 4 other felony indictments worth about another 30 felonies, until the election, so they got tossed.


All on appeal or tossed and nothing will be paid. I don't care about any of your political warfare, and nobody else does either.

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He is betraying our friends and praising our enemies. He is openly corrupt. The list of his injudicious acts is endless.


None of this is true.

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An example is women and children starving to death because of his cuts to a gov. department with an already small budget. Or all the people who are going to die because they are about to lose their health care. People who may be dealing with cancer or something else.


Show me one example.

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You side with him. Nothing about you Jack is respectable, or to be taken seriously.


I side with America.

You side with MS13, Tren de Argua, men in women's bathrooms and sports, wide open borders and unchecked immigration, anti-whitism, $2.5 Trillion in debt added every year to fund all of your unaffordable brainwashing and a long post history of thousands of other anti-American ideas and values.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 3:09 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This thread has 590 posts, and almost 12 full pages. Has Thuggery ever made any actual point in any of his posts? Somewhere around half of the posts must be his.

I thought of going through the pages to look see if anything posted by Ted was ever solid, but the endless stream of nonsense posted here was daunting.

So, 6ix, is there any posts that he made which are valid? Obviously, some are still unresolved since they have not yet played out. But are there any which have run the course of the topic, and how many?





I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it.




... is what everybody reading any post of Ted's thinks when reading any post of Ted's.

Quote:

I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it. Anybody posting or visiting the site can see you have posted in old threads 50 times since the last person, other than you posted there. Even my, not to old threads have you posting again and again, always off topic.

And what do these posts of yours have in common? You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. Almost always, your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.

Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.





You crack me up Gilligan. Trump is a convicted felon. He has been convicted of sexual assault. His NY company was convicted of fraud. He also was able to defer 4 other felony indictments worth about another 30 felonies, until the election, so they got tossed.


All on appeal or tossed and nothing will be paid. I don't care about any of your political warfare, and nobody else does either.






I don't know which if any are on appeal. It doesn't matter. Fact, he was found guilty of all the things I posted. Innocent until proven guilty. Well, he was proven guilty. Being white trash none of it matters to you and that's ok, because you are white trash.

T


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 3:41 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Incorrect usage of comma after "my". How many fucking times are you going to use the wrong version of to/too/two? IT'S TOO IN THIS CASE, RETARD.

Not that the sentence fragment is even real English to begin with.





First, I put the comma where I did for effect. That said dummy. You put the word my in quotes with the period on the outside of the quotation; wrong. You make me laugh Gilligan. And know this. I can live with spelling errors. Not a game changer for me. I also wrote it as 5 to 10 times; sue me.

Now, to more serious matters. Your boy Trump is fucking up big time again.

T


Mexican security chief confirms cartel family members entered US in a deal with Trump administration

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration.

Mexican Security Secretary Omar García Harfuch confirmed a report by independent journalist Luis Chaparro that family members of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, who was extradited to the United States in 2023, had entered the U.S.

Guzmán Lopez is one of the brothers left running a faction of the Sinaloa Cartel after notorious capo Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán was imprisoned in the U.S. Video showed the family members walking across the border from Tijuana with their suitcases to waiting U.S. agents.

Rumors had circulated last week that the younger Guzmán would plead guilty to avoid trial for several drug trafficking charges in the U.S. after being extradited in 2023.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexican-security-chief-confirms-c
artel-family-members-entered-us-in-a-deal-with-trump-administration/ar-AA1EIoYr?ocid=StaticFallback&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=9de8b0229d564c6986b99d1d56beda41&ei=37


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 4:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
First, I put the comma where I did for effect. That said dummy. You put the word my in quotes with the period on the outside of the quotation; wrong. You make me laugh Gilligan. And know this. I can live with spelling errors. Not a game changer for me. I also wrote it as 5 to 10 times; sue me.



I don't want to hear excuses about why you wasted your life and why you're retarded. Nobody cares.

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Now, to more serious matters. Your boy Trump is fucking up big time again.


What else is new in your bizarro world. Go fuck yourself, dummy. Nobody cares what you think about anything and nobody is listening to you or anywhere you get your "news" from anymore.

Your party is dead and their propaganda bullhorn is broken and any ounce of patience that Real Americans had for people like you is spent.

Keep screaming into the void. It's the only move you've left yourself with. And when your dying Democratic Party is finally taken over by the extreme-left, you will be politically homeless, just like I said many times that you would, and it will be your own goddamned fault.

And I'll be pulling out my bottomless bag of I Told You So's and this time I'm going to staple one to your fucking face so you finally get the message.

How's that?

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 5:01 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
First, I put the comma where I did for effect. That said dummy. You put the word my in quotes with the period on the outside of the quotation; wrong. You make me laugh Gilligan. And know this. I can live with spelling errors. Not a game changer for me. I also wrote it as 5 to 10 times; sue me.



I don't want to hear excuses about why you wasted your life and why you're retarded. Nobody cares.

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Now, to more serious matters. Your boy Trump is fucking up big time again.


And I'll be pulling out my bottomless bag of I Told You So's and this time I'm going to staple one to your fucking face so you finally get the message.

How's that?






You capitalized the s in so's as well as the t in told and the y in you. All mistakes dummy.

How's that?

T


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 5:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey Ted...

Did you notice something over the last few days?

With all of your racism and sexism bullshit and pandering and ass kissing and making sure to let everybody know all the time that you're one of the "good guys", it's kind of funny how that tag session went, huh?

You thought you "had me beat" so bad that even Second came to chime in two posts and he never does that.



Here's the deal, you mindless little fucking twerp.



I like Brenda. I've liked Brenda for years. She's one of the few people still here that thinks for herself and has genuinely interesting things to say.

And boy... The international tensions these last few weeks that we have no power over really made you get manic on your Headline ingestion and drive you fucking crazy, didn't you? Trying to rile up everyone every day about US/Canada relations and the fucking sky falling.

And then I've said stuff these last few months that would get me insta-banned on YouTube and old Twitter regarding race and sex. I'm sure in your desire to be the first to white knight and be offended for everybody else, you just thought that this was it, and Brenda would never talk to Jack again and I'll get some Good Boy Points!!!

And then because of the headlines and the chronic BS all the time, Brenda, who never speaks politically comes out and says some things in political threads here, and I don't do NEARLY as good as I should to hold back and I speak really shitty to her in reply like I would to a dumbass like you who deserves it. Though I haven't apologized for that, I felt bad about it almost immediately, and I've felt bad about it since. She DESERVES much more respect from me than that. Not because of the color of her skin or because of her private parts. But because she's fucking earned it out of me by the way she carries herself and the way she speaks to me and everyone else.

I ain't great at apologies, but I did go out of my way to also pop in the Garden that I haven't been posting in very often to say that Brenda's good deal of friends was also well earned in the RWED thread because it was the best I could muster at the time. Again, that ain't me blowing smoke up her ass. That's me actually knowing at least the part of her she shows online really well after many years here. Brenda... at least the Brenda we see here, should have a lot of friends. The world just wouldn't be right if that weren't the case.



And then here you come trying to rile things up between us in the tags, and even fucking Second who never posts there pops in of nowhere and starts posting shit in an attempt to take to another level.

Then what happens???

Brenda threatens to knock my teeth out and calls me "boy" and she gave me a real bellylaugh that I haven't had in quite a while, and I called her "Awesome".


And for the last few days we've been engaged in interesting conversation the likes that you are entirely incapable of, and you're left out of the tag section after being punked like a little bitch for trying to bring political images back into it...

There's a lesson to be learned here, son. And you need to learn it.



I'm sure this scenario or something very similar to it has played out for you time and time and time again your entire life. And you've never figured out why.

You don't get it. You do all the "right" things. You say all the "right" things. You think all the "right" things. And you let everyone know it any chance you get.

But nobody wants to be around you, do they?

Nobody wants to spend any time with you. Nobody likes you.


It's because you are not a real person. You are a facsimile of a person.


This is your intervention that nobody else cares enough to give you.

Get yourself some help before it is too late.




I'm sorry to bring you up, Brenda. But Ted needs an intervention and nobody else is going to give it to him. This needed to be pointed out to him. If we had a PM function still, I would have been discussing this with you offline first. I understand if this post angers you, but I hope you can understand why I made it and you can forgive me.



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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 5:31 PM

THG


Good to go...

T


Trump MET with INSTANT KARMA over Judge INDICTMENT






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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 8:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I was thinking about maybe starting with the first page. This thread started in Nov 2019.
Much from that period might be settled by now.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 8:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Ted, why did you leave out the most pertinent part, the context, from your post, about 3 or 4 posts above?
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García Harfuch confirmed the family members' crossing in a radio interview and said it was clear to Mexican authorities that they were doing so after negotiations between Guzmán López and the U.S. government.

He believed that was the case because the former cartel boss, whose lawyer said in January he had entered negotiations with U.S. authorities, had been pointing fingers at members of other criminal organizations likely as part of a cooperation agreement.

“It is evident that his family is going to the U.S. because of a negotiation or an offer that the Department of Justice is giving him,” Garcia Harfuch said.

The confirmation by García Harfuch comes the same day that the U.S. Attorney General's Office announced it was charging a number of top cartel leaders with “narcoterrorism” for the first time since the Trump administration declared a number of cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

Are you trying to be biased? Ashamed that you are wrong? Or do you prefer that the Drug Cartels continue their crimes unabated?

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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 9:33 PM

THG


Trump SCOTUS Showdown REACHES its PEAK at MAJOR Oral Argument

Tomorrow at 9am eastern



If someone wants to go to the beginning of the thread and go through everything up until now, I say great. You'll have to read and watch everything. The facts, shit, you'll have to face up to about your boy Trump, will be a real eye opener since I know you guys choose to remain clueless.

Anyway, tomorrow is a big day. Be there or be square.

T


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 9:50 PM

THG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Ted, why did you leave out the most pertinent part, the context, from your post, about 3 or 4 posts above?
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García Harfuch confirmed the family members' crossing in a radio interview and said it was clear to Mexican authorities that they were doing so after negotiations between Guzmán López and the U.S. government.

He believed that was the case because the former cartel boss, whose lawyer said in January he had entered negotiations with U.S. authorities, had been pointing fingers at members of other criminal organizations likely as part of a cooperation agreement.

“It is evident that his family is going to the U.S. because of a negotiation or an offer that the Department of Justice is giving him,” Garcia Harfuch said.

The confirmation by García Harfuch comes the same day that the U.S. Attorney General's Office announced it was charging a number of top cartel leaders with “narcoterrorism” for the first time since the Trump administration declared a number of cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

Are you trying to be biased? Ashamed that you are wrong? Or do you prefer that the Drug Cartels continue their crimes unabated?



Mexican security chief confirms cartel family members entered US in a deal with Trump administration

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration.

Mexican Security Secretary Omar García Harfuch confirmed a report by independent journalist Luis Chaparro that family members of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, who was extradited to the United States in 2023, had entered the U.S.

Guzmán Lopez is one of the brothers left running a faction of the Sinaloa Cartel after notorious capo Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán was imprisoned in the U.S. Video showed the family members walking across the border from Tijuana with their suitcases to waiting U.S. agents.

Rumors had circulated last week that the younger Guzmán would plead guilty to avoid trial for several drug trafficking charges in the U.S. after being extradited in 2023.



What asshole, what was I wrong about? You have the original, quote me from there. All I said was Trump is fucking up. I stand by that.

I prefer that he doesn't bring entire families of corrupt organizations here. You mentioned context. I would have thought this was self-evident. Do you think they are ever going back? They do have supporters across the country; other gang members. And if they can't get together with them, who is going to support them; you?

You can't see me but I'm laughing. Why, because all you and Jack want is to get rid of the Mexicans. Trumps way sure don't cut it.

T


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 11:02 PM

THG


'Unprecedented and entirely unconstitutional': Judge motions to kill indictment for allegedly obstructing ICE agents, shreds Trump admin for even trying

In her motion, Dugan’s lawyers condemn her charges and prosecution as being “irrelevant to immunity.” They claim that even if the judge, who has been on the bench in Milwaukee County since 2016, did what she’s accused of doing, there would be no way of prosecuting her “because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts,” according to the motion.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/unprecedented-and-entirely-uncons
titutional-judge-motions-to-kill-indictment-for-allegedly-obstructing-ice-agents-shreds-trump-admin-for-even-trying/ar-AA1ENfer




Fingers crossed...

T


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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 11:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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'Unprecedented and entirely unconstitutional': Judge motions to kill indictment for allegedly obstructing ICE agents, shreds Trump admin for even trying

In her motion, Dugan’s lawyers condemn her charges and prosecution as being “irrelevant to immunity.” They claim that even if the judge, who has been on the bench in Milwaukee County since 2016, did what she’s accused of doing, there would be no way of prosecuting her “because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts,” according to the motion.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/unprecedented-and-entirely-uncons
titutional-judge-motions-to-kill-indictment-for-allegedly-obstructing-ice-agents-shreds-trump-admin-for-even-trying/ar-AA1ENfer




Fingers crossed...

T





Yes. Please, oh please. Immunity for my gal because she's on my side.

Any chance that I can jump out unbidden and announce to the world how hypocritical I am on any given day, when somebody compares my "thoughts" in the moment to anything I've ever said before today.



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Wednesday, May 14, 2025 11:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


BTW, Ted...

She wasn't arrested for any judgements that she made.


As per your own article, had you bothered to read down that far, this is what she was arrested for, and there is plenty of video proof of her doing it too.

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Dugan is accused of helping a Mexican national named Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, who is facing misdemeanor battery charges. He was in Dugan’s courtroom on April 18 for a hearing when ICE agents allegedly tried to take him into custody. A deputy in Dugan’s courtroom claimed she directed Flores-Ruiz to leave through a jury door, per the motion.

“The government’s prosecution here reaches directly into a state courthouse, disrupting active proceedings, and interferes with the official duties of an elected judge,” the motion alleges.

Dugan is scheduled to appear in court on Thursday to enter a plea.



She was arrested for disregarding lawful orders that compelled the criminal illegal alien invader to be handed over to ICE to be deported and then trying to give him an escape route while keeping them busy. Who knows... A year from now that might be considered a treasonous act.

I wouldn't keep attempting it, or you might find out.



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Thursday, May 15, 2025 12:00 AM

THG


I know exactly what she did. And she did it in her courtroom. She is 100% in charge there. ICE played this whole thing wrong for the sake of a news cycle. Red meat for MAGA losers.

T


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 1:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No. She is not 100% in charge there.

And she is certainly not above the law. Inside or outside of that courtroom.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 12:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Ted, why did you leave out the most pertinent part, the context, from your post, about 3 or 4 posts above?
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García Harfuch confirmed the family members' crossing in a radio interview and said it was clear to Mexican authorities that they were doing so after negotiations between Guzmán López and the U.S. government.

He believed that was the case because the former cartel boss, whose lawyer said in January he had entered negotiations with U.S. authorities, had been pointing fingers at members of other criminal organizations likely as part of a cooperation agreement.

“It is evident that his family is going to the U.S. because of a negotiation or an offer that the Department of Justice is giving him,” Garcia Harfuch said.

The confirmation by García Harfuch comes the same day that the U.S. Attorney General's Office announced it was charging a number of top cartel leaders with “narcoterrorism” for the first time since the Trump administration declared a number of cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

Are you trying to be biased? Ashamed that you are wrong? Or do you prefer that the Drug Cartels continue their crimes unabated?



Mexican security chief confirms cartel family members entered US in a deal with Trump administration

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration.

Mexican Security Secretary Omar García Harfuch confirmed a report by independent journalist Luis Chaparro that family members of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, who was extradited to the United States in 2023, had entered the U.S.

Guzmán Lopez is one of the brothers left running a faction of the Sinaloa Cartel after notorious capo Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán was imprisoned in the U.S. Video showed the family members walking across the border from Tijuana with their suitcases to waiting U.S. agents.

Rumors had circulated last week that the younger Guzmán would plead guilty to avoid trial for several drug trafficking charges in the U.S. after being extradited in 2023.



What asshole, what was I wrong about? You have the original, quote me from there. All I said was Trump is fucking up. I stand by that.

I prefer that he doesn't bring entire families of corrupt organizations here. You mentioned context. I would have thought this was self-evident. Do you think they are ever going back? They do have supporters across the country; other gang members. And if they can't get together with them, who is going to support them; you?

You can't see me but I'm laughing. Why, because all you and Jack want is to get rid of the Mexicans. Trumps way sure don't cut it.

T





Ted is literally falling apart at the seems.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 1:06 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Trump SCOTUS Showdown REACHES its PEAK at MAJOR Oral Argument

Tomorrow at 9am eastern



If someone wants to go to the beginning of the thread and go through everything up until now, I say great. You'll have to read and watch everything. The facts, shit, you'll have to face up to about your boy Trump, will be a real eye opener since I know you guys choose to remain clueless.

Anyway, tomorrow is a big day. Be there or be square.

T




Supreme Court HOLDS MAJOR Oral Argument on CITIZENSHIP



Listened to it all and analysis afterwards. That's still going on. I'll post some of it in a bit. Bottom line, Trump loses. And, this ruling with effect 4 or 5 other Trump emergency filings with the Supreme Court. So, kiss those cases goodby as well. Hey JSF, do you understand the context here?

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

This thread has 590 posts, and almost 12 full pages. Has Thuggery ever made any actual point in any of his posts? Somewhere around half of the posts must be his.

I thought of going through the pages to look see if anything posted by Ted was ever solid, but the endless stream of nonsense posted here was daunting.

So, 6ix, is there any posts that he made which are valid? Obviously, some are still unresolved since they have not yet played out. But are there any which have run the course of the topic, and how many?





I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it.




... is what everybody reading any post of Ted's thinks when reading any post of Ted's.

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I can't get over how stupid you are. Really, I can't believe it. Anybody posting or visiting the site can see you have posted in old threads 50 times since the last person, other than you posted there. Even my, not to old threads have you posting again and again, always off topic.

And what do these posts of yours have in common? You post one sentence and a link to god knows what. Almost always, your post will consist of a sentence and a link, another sentence and another link. Maybe as many as 5 to 10 times in one post.

Here's a thought. Have an idea, start your own damn thread.





You crack me up Gilligan. Trump is a convicted felon. He has been convicted of sexual assault. His NY company was convicted of fraud. He also was able to defer 4 other felony indictments worth about another 30 felonies, until the election, so they got tossed.


All on appeal or tossed and nothing will be paid. I don't care about any of your political warfare, and nobody else does either.






I don't know which if any are on appeal. It doesn't matter. Fact, he was found guilty of all the things I posted. Innocent until proven guilty. Well, he was proven guilty. Being white trash none of it matters to you and that's ok, because you are white trash.

T





How did I miss this little gem?

We know that you don't know, twerp. You're a moron.

SPOILER ALERT: Any of the very few cases that haven't already been tossed out are on appeal. And he's going to win all of them.

You are a loser and your party is dead.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 1:11 PM

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BTW, Ted...

She wasn't arrested for any judgements that she made.


As per your own article, had you bothered to read down that far, this is what she was arrested for, and there is plenty of video proof of her doing it too.

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Dugan is accused of helping a Mexican national named Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, who is facing misdemeanor battery charges. He was in Dugan’s courtroom on April 18 for a hearing when ICE agents allegedly tried to take him into custody. A deputy in Dugan’s courtroom claimed she directed Flores-Ruiz to leave through a jury door, per the motion.

“The government’s prosecution here reaches directly into a state courthouse, disrupting active proceedings, and interferes with the official duties of an elected judge,” the motion alleges.

Dugan is scheduled to appear in court on Thursday to enter a plea.



She was arrested for disregarding lawful orders that compelled the criminal illegal alien invader to be handed over to ICE to be deported and then trying to give him an escape route while keeping them busy. Who knows... A year from now that might be considered a treasonous act.

I wouldn't keep attempting it, or you might find out.



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I know exactly what she did. And she did it in her courtroom. She is 100% in charge there. ICE played this whole thing wrong for the sake of a news cycle. Red meat for MAGA losers.

T





Oh. You know what she did, huh Ted?

Looks like she doesn't...

Wisconsin Judge Pleads Not Guilty to Helping Illegal Immigrant Avoid Arrest

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/federal-grand-jury-indicts-wiscons
in-judge-for-allegedly-helping-illegal-immigrant-avoid-arrest
/

If your only argument is that you aren't guilty of what all the cameras show you being guilty of, you'd better get ready to suit up in that orange jumpsuit. And you'll never have gainful employment again after being disbarred.

Tick Tock

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 1:15 PM

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The independent voter is doing just fine Gilligan. And we're going to put you out of business come the mid-terms.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 1:18 PM

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If your only argument is that you aren't guilty of what all the cameras show you being guilty of, you'd better get ready to suit up in that orange jumpsuit. And you'll never have gainful employment again after being disbarred.

Tick Tock






You don't understand. Let me help you with that. Trump had all those documents he should not have. We all saw it on camera. You said he had a right to those documents because he was president even though the law said he can't have them. Make up your mind.

In the courtroom, the judge rules. And that is what the law says. Trump bad, the judge good.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 2:26 PM

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If your only argument is that you aren't guilty of what all the cameras show you being guilty of, you'd better get ready to suit up in that orange jumpsuit. And you'll never have gainful employment again after being disbarred.

Tick Tock






You don't understand. Let me help you with that.


There is nothing in the world that you could ever possibly help me with.


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 2:28 PM

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The independent voter is doing just fine Gilligan. And we're going to put you out of business come the mid-terms.

T




Oh yeah? Who are you going to vote for, Mr. Independent?

You've never voted anything but Democrat in your life.

You're a fucking joke and your party is dead.

Mid-terms are going to be hilarious. And that's without even taking into account that the Senate map looks so bad for Democrats over the next 2 decades that I'm going to be damn near 70 before the Democrats ever have a chance of running it again.



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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Trump SCOTUS Showdown REACHES its PEAK at MAJOR Oral Argument

Tomorrow at 9am eastern



If someone wants to go to the beginning of the thread and go through everything up until now, I say great. You'll have to read and watch everything. The facts, shit, you'll have to face up to about your boy Trump, will be a real eye opener since I know you guys choose to remain clueless.

Anyway, tomorrow is a big day. Be there or be square.

T




Supreme Court HOLDS MAJOR Oral Argument on CITIZENSHIP



Listened to it all and analysis afterwards. That's still going on. I'll post some of it in a bit. Bottom line, Trump loses. And, this ruling with effect 4 or 5 other Trump emergency filings with the Supreme Court. So, kiss those cases goodby as well. Hey JSF, do you understand the context here?

T




And he laid out a losing argument.

Hey, where is JSF? He talked shit about tearing my thread apart and making me look bad. I responded and he ran away. He's a chicken shit. Too funny...

T




Supreme Court GRILLS Trump Solicitor General in DISASTER Oral Argument




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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:42 PM

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You should really temper your expectations and stop following the clickbait, dummy.

And JSF sometimes goes weeks without posting these days.

I know that you spend all day, every day, obsessing over people you hate, but everyone else has lives to live.

You're a fucking joke.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:47 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

The independent voter is doing just fine Gilligan. And we're going to put you out of business come the mid-terms.

T




Oh yeah? Who are you going to vote for, Mr. Independent?

You've never voted anything but Democrat in your life.

You're a fucking joke and your party is dead.

Mid-terms are going to be hilarious. And that's without even taking into account that the Senate map looks so bad for Democrats over the next 2 decades that I'm going to be damn near 70 before the Democrats ever have a chance of running it again.






An independent voter, often also called an unaffiliated voter or non-affiliated voter in the United States, is a voter who does not align themselves with a political party. An independent is variously defined as a voter who votes for candidates on issues rather than on the basis of a political ideology or partisanship


Because it is so obvious you don't know shit about the independent voter. I've posted what an independent voter is, and what we are not. And we are the farthest one can be from being in a MAGA type cult.

T


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:50 PM

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Because it is so obvious you don't know shit about the independent voter. I've posted what an independent voter is, and what they are not.



Nobody gives a single shit what you post, mongoloid.

You're a straight Dem-ticket lemming.

And it doesn't matter whether or not you think your Independent. You're not going to vote Republican for the rest of your life, and after mid-term Primaries you're not going to have anybody you agree with to vote for in the Democratic Party either.

You will be politically homeless and I will be laughing at you again, like I always do.



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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:53 PM

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... Speaking of laughing...

CNN: Takeaways from the Supreme Court arguments on birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/15/politics/supreme-court-birthright-citiz
enship-nationwide-injunctions-executive-order


The most important bits from today...

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The Supreme Court on Thursday seemed open to lifting a series of nationwide orders blocking President Donald Trump from enforcing his birthright citizenship policy, even as several of the justices wrestled with the practical implications of allowing the government to deny citizenship to people born in the US.


CNN isn't seeing whatever your MTN clickbait purports to be seeing.


As for your plan to let us know how this case goes by the end of the day, I hope you're hot holding your breath or you're going to suffocate...

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How soon will the court rule?

In the run up to the arguments, there was significant debate about what the case is actually about: Was it about judicial power, and the ability of lower courts to block a president or the practical impacts of allowing this president to enforce this order?

Throughout the debate on Thursday, it was clear that many of the justices were also having difficulty separating those two issues.

Even though the case has reached the Supreme Court in an emergency posture, it’s not clear how long it will take the justices to resolve it. The last time the court held arguments in an emergency case, an appeal dealing with environmental regulations, it took the justices several months.

Given the complications involved in the birthright case, it’s possible the court will need until the scheduled end of its term next month.



CNN's final take of the 1st day is that this could take months to settle, but so far it definitely looks to be going a way that is great for America and is sure to make Theodore who hates America cry.

Anything else stupid you want to say about the Supreme Court case today, stupid?

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:56 PM

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I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 3:58 PM

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I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T




And Second is a Viet Nam vet and a multi-billionaire oil tycoon.

Nobody cares.



I'm not joking when I say you will have nobody to vote for after mid-terms if you don't do something. Your choices are going to be MAGA or AOC and Co.

Good luck. You'll need it.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:04 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T




And Second is a Viet Nam vet and a multi-billionaire oil tycoon.

Nobody cares.

I'm not joking when I say you will have nobody to vote for after mid-terms if you don't do something. Your choices are going to be MAGA or AOC and Co.

Good luck. You'll need it.






There you go again; thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from responding to a democrat to responding to an independent. So sad and sooo fucking funny. It's one of the many reasons why I call you Gilligan.

T


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:08 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T




And Second is a Viet Nam vet and a multi-billionaire oil tycoon.

Nobody cares.

I'm not joking when I say you will have nobody to vote for after mid-terms if you don't do something. Your choices are going to be MAGA or AOC and Co.

Good luck. You'll need it.






There you go again; with the thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from posting to a democrat to posting to an independent. So sad...

T




Speaking for everybody? What are you even talking about? Be specific.

What lie are you referring to? Be specific.

I'm sitting here showing off 5 articles worth of text per day of critical thinking coming out of my head, son.

All you've got is article headlines and clickbait videos (who lied to you again today all day and are almost always proven false over time) and personal attacks.

How am I supposed to "debate" with you? You can't even come up with any intelligent thoughts of your own and you speak in political cartoons and headlines.

If you want to stop crying and screaming for 5 minutes and behave like an adult and have an adult conversation, I'm all for it.

But I know you far too well and for far too long to know better.


I talk the way I do to you because that is the way you deserved to be talked to.

Period.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:12 PM

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There you go again; thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from responding to a democrat to responding to an independent. So sad and sooo fucking funny. It's one of the many reasons why I call you Gilligan.


Like I said

T


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:17 PM

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And meanwhile, on the other end of Lefty cringe that still hangs on in the RWED, we've got lunatic second who can't seem to make a post anymore without threatening somebody, telling somebody the harm he wants to inflict on somebody, or outright assassination fanfiction.

Do you see where you're at right now?

Take your own advice and look in the mirror. All the adversity and shit that's happening and that has been happening for years is coming from the left. It's nothing but an endless 24/7 barrage of bad news and hate, and burning shit down and breaking stuff and the whining... the ceaseless, nonstop whining....

People don't want any of that anymore. People are tuning out.

Unless Trump really breaks something and Americans really get fucked, it's all over. The Left as you knew it is gone forever. And every time they put out a story-of-the-day about the sky falling only for that problem to evaporate by the next week, The People get even more desensitized to it all and they will care even less.


So you're left in the unenviable position now where you need to actively root against your own country and hope that it fails. Because there is nothing else that is going to ever swing power back to the Democrats now.



Second knows this. It's why he's shitting all over the Democratic Party right now and calling them cowards for not literally killing Trump.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:

I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T




And Second is a Viet Nam vet and a multi-billionaire oil tycoon.

Nobody cares.

I'm not joking when I say you will have nobody to vote for after mid-terms if you don't do something. Your choices are going to be MAGA or AOC and Co.

Good luck. You'll need it.






There you go again; with the thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from posting to a democrat to posting to an independent. So sad...

T




Speaking for everybody? What are you even talking about? Be specific.

What lie are you referring to? Be specific.

I'm sitting here showing off 5 articles worth of text per day of critical thinking coming out of my head, son.

All you've got is article headlines and clickbait videos (who lied to you again today all day and are almost always proven false over time) and personal attacks.

How am I supposed to "debate" with you? You can't even come up with any intelligent thoughts of your own and you speak in political cartoons and headlines.

If you want to stop crying and screaming for 5 minutes and behave like an adult and have an adult conversation, I'm all for it.

But I know you far too well and for far too long to know better.


I talk the way I do to you because that is the way you deserved to be talked to.

Period.

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There you go again; thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from responding to a democrat to responding to an independent. So sad and sooo fucking funny. It's one of the many reasons why I call you Gilligan.


Like I said

T





That's not a reply.

I asked you questions. Answer them or shut the fuck up. I'm done with your dumbassery today.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 4:34 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by THG:

I was in the military when I voted for Nixon. I also voted for Bush senior.

T




And Second is a Viet Nam vet and a multi-billionaire oil tycoon.

Nobody cares.

I'm not joking when I say you will have nobody to vote for after mid-terms if you don't do something. Your choices are going to be MAGA or AOC and Co.

Good luck. You'll need it.






There you go again; with the thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from posting to a democrat to posting to an independent. So sad...

T




Speaking for everybody? What are you even talking about? Be specific.

What lie are you referring to? Be specific.

I'm sitting here showing off 5 articles worth of text per day of critical thinking coming out of my head, son.

All you've got is article headlines and clickbait videos (who lied to you again today all day and are almost always proven false over time) and personal attacks.

How am I supposed to "debate" with you? You can't even come up with any intelligent thoughts of your own and you speak in political cartoons and headlines.

If you want to stop crying and screaming for 5 minutes and behave like an adult and have an adult conversation, I'm all for it.

But I know you far too well and for far too long to know better.


I talk the way I do to you because that is the way you deserved to be talked to.

Period.

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Originally posted by THG:
There you go again; thinking you speak for everybody. That said, you have to keep lying when you post to me because you don't have the critical thinking skills to shift your debate, from responding to a democrat to responding to an independent. So sad and sooo fucking funny. It's one of the many reasons why I call you Gilligan.


Like I said

T





That's not a reply.

I asked you questions. Answer them or shut the fuck up. I'm done with your dumbassery today.

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T

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I know exactly what she did. And she did it in her courtroom. She is 100% in charge there. ICE played this whole thing wrong for the sake of a news cycle. Red meat for MAGA losers.

T





Yup...

T


CURVEBALL By Wisconsin Judge


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Thursday, May 15, 2025 5:30 PM

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dbl.

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Thursday, May 15, 2025 5:31 PM

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I'm going to wait it out and not worry about it, Ted.

We'll know it didn't go your way when you never bring it up again after it dies and falls out of the news cycle, which is about 99% of your thread here so far.

Worst case scenario for American Citizens out of this specific case is that it doesn't go the right way and then it gets appealed to a court where it will be set right. Just like 99% of your thread here so far.



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Friday, May 16, 2025 12:47 AM

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SIX, I appreciated what you said. I do come here for some conversation. And I will admit when I come into the political threads it is usually to read, but all the tension between Canada and the US has had me speaking out. My home this is, this continent. The tension is why I posted "elbows up" in tag. Just showing my perspective on things. And every so often when I post a thread that I think is interesting or funny. I am just looking for as I said a little conversation.

I do try to treat everyone as an individual here as I do in the real world. People tell me that I do succeed out there and I hope to some degree I do here.

My dad, my uncles and my aunts and of course my grandmother all looked Indian. Trust me when I say there was no mistaking who was walking towards you when you saw my dad.
With his brown skin, black eyes and black hair. I and my cousins, though my brother has slightly darker skin than I do, don't look that Indian. It's there but you have to know what to look for in our faces.

And on a final note. I thought at some point I asked you and THG, not to drag me into your squabbles. I mean I know I am the lone Canadian here but I don't feel like playing peace keeper.

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Yes. I know. I won't do it again, and I'm glad that you're not all bent about me doing it yesterday.

I haven't been much of a conversationalist for a while, and can't really promise that I'll continue to be one either. I'll try to be better though. I practically stopped posting in the RWED because Second keeps a ledger of everything I post in there and when we're having an argument in another thread he'll quote and put the exact link to a post I made 3 weeks ago that's completely unrelated to the topic at hand and take something I said there completely out of context and say something shitty to me.

Most of what I'm doing with them is just trolling. They get all nutty over every headline that comes out every day. Sky is falling for a different reason 5 days a week and usually calms down over the weekend until it picks right back up again. I just get more angry about it than I should.

I ain't worried about anything right now any more than I always worry about things.

We all just gotta chill and take a step back from all of this and behave more like you do.

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