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IRAN: Trump's war?
Tuesday, October 24, 2023 8:24 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:09 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
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THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I think Trump was told that there was an imminent attack planned, and that it would be like another Benghazi or another Iranian hostage crisis and that he'd get the blame. And then he was told he could prevent it by killing this guy. Who told him that? That was the deep state once again faking "intelligence" to stampede Trump. Like the (false) pictures of dead ducks and sick children in Salisbury (Skripal event) which never happened, which caused Trump to expel a bunch of Russian diplomats, or the "gas attack" in Douma (revealed as staged by internal OPCW documents leaked by whistleblowers) which caused Trump to launch missiles on Syria. Don't pretend that the deep state and neocon Repubs AND Dems haven't been jonesing for war ever since Trump was elected. They have been hounding Trump as "Putin's puppet" ever since then. The thing that pisses me off is that this is the THIRD time that Trump would have been fooled. Doesn't he know by now that the deep state and the warhawks are looking for any excuse to plant their knives in his back, above and beyond concocting the Russiagate and Ukrainegate hoaxes? C'mon Mr Trump, you can't afford to be THAT brain-dead about foreign affairs, if only for your own political survival!
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: PNAC: Project for the New American Century, a neoconservative think tank which advocated total world dominance by the USA military. GWB appointed quite a number of PNAC signatories. http://www.oldamericancentury.org/pnac.htm "Javanka": The combined influence of Jared and Ivanka Kushner. Jared is an avid pro-Zionist. It seems to me that, for him, Israel's interests come to mind first, before the USA's. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Friday, June 13, 2025 9:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Trump wanted to nuke Iran in his first term.
Friday, June 13, 2025 2:05 PM
Quote: Trump Knew of Israel’s Planned Attack on Iran All Along Edith Olmsted Fri, June 13, 2025 at 6:45 AM PDT Israeli officials say that their country’s deadly military strike on Iran was rubber-stamped by Donald Trump, despite his claims to have had nothing to do with it. Just hours before Israel’s massive operation Thursday targeting Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear facilities, military officials, and nuclear scientists, Trump claimed he was against an attack because it would “blow” ongoing diplomatic talks, which were set to continue this weekend. Two Israeli officials told Axios, however, that Trump was lying and the president had only pretended to publicly oppose Israel’s military operation to “eliminate” ballistic missile and nuclear facilities, which was reportedly eight months in the making. “We had a clear U.S. green light,” one Israeli official told Axios.
Quote: In a phone call with Netanyahu Monday, Trump reportedly urged the Israeli prime minister to stop chatter about a potential strike on Iran. But Israeli officials told Axios that the call had really been about coordination ahead of the attack, and Netanyahu’s aides had lied to reporters. The New York Times reported in April that Israel, which is not a participant in the ongoing nuclear talks, had made plans to attack Iranian nuclear sites that were waved off by Trump, who wanted to continue negotiating with Tehran. The White House made it clear, at least publicly, that if Israel wanted to strike it would do so alone. On Wednesday, some U.S. personnel were evacuated from the region, including from Baghdad and Bahrain, citing security concerns. When asked what Israeli officials had told him that prompted the evacuations, Trump said, “They didn’t tell me anything, but I said look, there’s a chance of massive conflict.” For a guy who says he had nothing to do with the attack, Trump has been quick to use the strike as leverage. “Iran should have listened to me when I said—you know I gave them, I don’t know if you know but I gave them a 60-day warning and today is day 61. They should now come to the table to make a deal before it’s too late. It will be too late for them,” the president told CNN. He also said that the strike had killed some of the people who’d been part of nuclear talks. “You know the people I was dealing with are dead, the hard-liners,” Trump added. Iran’s top negotiator in the nuclear talks, Ali Shamkhani, has been confirmed dead. When asked by The Wall Street Journal Friday what kind of heads-up Israel had given the U.S. about the impending strike, Trump replied, “Heads-up? It wasn’t a heads-up. It was, we know what’s going on.”
Friday, June 13, 2025 3:32 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, June 13, 2025 11:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Nobody cares. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Saturday, June 14, 2025 12:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Nobody cares. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon People will when gas goes to $10/ gal and American bodies start coming home. We, Trump's base, didn't vote for him to keep us in one forever war, and then get us into another. ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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