Trump Is Destroying Everything He Touches by JJ

Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 8:50 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.

6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me. Finally, call everyone a cultist and a sufferer of Trump Derangement Syndrome. I know you can do it because it's the only thing you do after flunking out of college when you felt smarter than all professors:

Trump Labor Department Says His Immigration Raids Are Causing a Food Crisis

In a filing in the Federal Register, the Labor Department argues there are “immediate dangers to the American food supply” due to a lack of migrant agricultural workers.

By David Dayen | October 8, 2025

https://prospect.org/politics/trump-labor-department-immigration-ICE-f
ood-crisis/

The Department of Labor’s new rule cutting farmworker wages bluntly states that souped-up immigration enforcement has devastated the agricultural workforce and created a significant “risk of supply shock-induced food shortages,” according to a document filed in the Federal Register last week. The document also indicates that American workers are simply not interested in and do not have the skills to perform agricultural jobs, at odds with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins’s claim that the farm workforce will soon be 100 percent American.

“The near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens combined with the lack of an available legal workforce, results in significant disruptions to production costs and threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S consumers,” the document says, adding that “this threat will grow” given new federal funding for immigration enforcement under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

The rule seeks to bring in guest workers through the H-2A program at lower wages, potentially reducing wages across the spectrum for all farmworkers, regardless of legal status. But in order to do so quickly, Trump’s Department of Labor is surprisingly citing the downside risks of its own president’s mass deportation program, arguing that it is causing “immediate dangers to the American food supply.”

“They’re sort of, I guess refreshingly, explicit about how this is going to go down,” said Daniel Costa, an attorney with the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) who tracks the H-2A program. But this claim of mass carnage from immigration has a very particular intent: the only way out of the crisis, the Labor Department states, is to hire many more foreign workers to pick U.S. crops at lower wages, a direct transfer of income from workers in the fields to their agribusiness employers.

Only one of two things can be true: Either Trump’s Labor Department actually believes that Trump’s immigration enforcement is destroying the agricultural sector and threatening food security, or they are pretending this threat is real in order to crush wages for both foreign and domestic agricultural workers. Neither look particularly good.

THE RULE IN QUESTION CONCERNS WHAT IS KNOWN as the Adverse Effect Wage Rate (AEWR), which is set for H-2A agricultural workers. H-2A gives one-year visas to foreign nationals to work in agriculture. They must work for the grower who sponsors the visa, and they lack basic worker protections that domestic workers have, like the ability to get overtime pay. The program has been called a form of slavery by critics in the past.

H-2A, which was established in the 1980s, has evolved from an occasional program to fill gaps in the workforce to one increasingly relied on by employers. About one in five agricultural workers is on an H-2A visa, nearly a ten-fold increase from 20 years ago. While employers are supposed to advertise for U.S. workers to fill jobs first, this expansion of H-2A has continued virtually unabated. There is no cap on the program, so agribusiness can bring in an unlimited number of foreign workers.

Because H-2A workers don’t have bargaining rights, federal guidelines effectively set their wages. The AEWR is essentially a minimum wage for these foreign workers, which is supposed to be at a level that doesn’t create an “adverse effect” for U.S. workers in the industry. It is published every year (with different rates for each state) using a methodology that previously was derived by the Farm Labor Survey, an initiative of the Department of Agriculture that was discontinued by the Trump administration in August.

The new interim final rule changes the methodology for determining the AEWR in the absence of the Farm Labor Survey. It’s complicated, but the rule proposes that the Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics (OEWS) survey operated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics will be the primary data used to determine wages. As Costa points out, this survey does not actually talk to farm employers but farm labor contractors, who offer wages at lower levels than direct farm hiring does. “It naturally means the wages are lower,” Costa said.

In addition, the new rule allows farm employers to charge H-2A workers for their housing, which was not allowed before. “It’s a way for employers to continue to house workers and also charge them, and bring down effective wages,” said Marcos Lopez of the Labor and Community Center at the University of California, Davis.

The result, a replay of cuts to H-2A minimum wages that the Trump administration enacted at the end of his first term, will be aggregate wage cuts of $2.46 billion annually, as the United Farm Workers point out. American agricultural workers, who must compete in the same marketplace for jobs, will also likely see significant cuts to their own pay, experts said. In some states like California, Washington, New York, and Arizona, the resulting wages for H-2A workers will be well below state minimum wages.

“The Trump wage cut is a catastrophe for American workers in agriculture who growers intend to replace with cheap and exploitable foreign guest workers,” said Teresa Romero, president of the United Farm Workers.

Employers have been pushing for the lower wages, claiming the AEWR was too high even as they increasingly turned to H-2A workers to fill open positions.

But what’s really interesting are the justifications made for this change, which explicitly blame Trump’s immigration enforcement for creating massive labor shortages in agriculture.

Much more at https://prospect.org/politics/trump-labor-department-immigration-ICE-f
ood-crisis/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:19 PM

Keep it real please

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545

Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%

Talk about inflation aye signym?

T

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-she-s-listening-to-her-consti
tuents-why-mtg-is-breaking-with-gop-over-health-care-249350213545

Projected premium increases healthcare

West Virginia 387%

Wyoming 382%

Alaska 346%

Tennesse 320%

Mississippi 314%

Texas 289%

South Carolina 285%

Alabama 284%

South Dakkota 235%

North Dakota 234%

We will see what happens, I guess.

If that's true, Republicans will not win the midterms and they deserve to lose.

There's no reason for anybody to believe right now that it is true because everything they've ever said has been wrong up to this point, but if it is true that's the end of Republicans running things.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:23 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Talking with you and your always-shifting goalposts is a pointless endeavor.

I'm just going to go back to calling you stupid without trying to explain anything because you're a mindless gooning cultist.
6ix, see if you can twist this story into a bizarre misinterpretation of reality. Then you can congratulate yourself for being smarter than the reporter or me.

I take no pride, nor do I congratulate myself for being smarter than you or David.

It would be no different than me patting myself on the back for being smarter than a kid with Down Syndrome or Ted.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:34 PM

Keep it real please

Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

T

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 10:53 PM

Keep it real please

Brazil’s beef exports to China surge as Trump’s tariffs shift global demand

Brazil’s beef exports to China are on the rise as part of the Asian nation’s larger strategy to avoid agricultural goods from the United States amid their ongoing trade dispute.

Brazil’s beef exports to China rose 38.3 percent in September from a year earlier, reaching 187,340 tonnes, the industry group Abrafrigo said on Wednesday, helping push total monthly exports to a record high.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/brazil-s-beef-exports-to-chi
na-surge-as-trump-s-tariffs-shift-global-demand/ar-AA1O6jJK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=9f1ca2aa498b4f9f8019781604442021&ei=96

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Wednesday, October 8, 2025 11:46 PM

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Smart people don't flunk out of junior college Gilligan. And you did it twice. Can you spell narcissist?

T

As I've told you many times before, I dropped out of Jr. College four times.

I also bought a house with cash when I was 32 years old and haven't owed a cent of debt to anybody since August of 2005.

And before you start asking anybody if they can spell words, you should figure out the difference between too, to and two, Mr. College Graduate.

I'm all of the good parts of Rain Man, with very few of the negatives.

You got all the bad parts of the autism spectrum with none of the positives, I'm afraid.

But you keep lording that worthless college degree you got over everyone in your life. It's why there is nobody in your life and I'm the closest thing you have to a friend, Theodore.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 1:59 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Trump is full of shit: "JUST OUT: Good news for the Holiday Season. EARLY PRICES ARE DOWN, WHILE TARIFFS ARE MAKING OUR COUNTRY AN ECONOMIC POWER AGAIN. Also, virtually NO INFLATION, AS STOCK MARKETS CONTINUALLY HIT RECORD HIGHS. THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FOR THE U.S.A."
7:10 AM · Oct 6, 2025
https://x.com/TrumpTruthOnX/status/1975171710342267001

Roughly half of U.S. states are effectively in a recession and ‘hanging on by their fingertips,’ Moody’s chief economist says

By Eleanor Pringle | October 9, 2025 at 10:16 AM EDT

https://fortune.com/2025/10/09/america-feels-recession-state-dependent
-income-cohort-moody-zandi/

ANALYSIS: Despite strong national figures—3.8% GDP growth and 4.3% unemployment—large parts of the U.S. are effectively in recession, according to Moody’s Analytics. Chief economist Mark Zandi exclusively told Fortune that 22 states are contracting and many lower- and middle-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips,” struggling with debt and slowing wage growth despite steady employment. Private data during the federal shutdown shows weakening consumer confidence, particularly among those earning under $35,000. Zandi warned that if economic softness spreads from smaller, manufacturing-heavy states to giants like California or New York, the national economy could tip into recession.

Everything should feel fine in the economy. Gross domestic product was up a healthy 3.8% in the past quarter, and unemployment has stayed at a steady 4.3%. So why does it seem so tough?

The short answer is: Depending on where you live and who you are, the environment around you is recessionary.

According to analysis from Moody’s Analytics, 22 U.S. states are seeing their economies contract. Meanwhile, just 16 are seeing economic growth, while 13 are classified as “treading water.” That said, the states contributing the most to U.S. GDP—California, Texas, and New York—are all in the clear, pushing the overall growth of the country into the green as a result.

But for those who don’t live in the wealthier states (and indeed, aren’t on the higher end of the income ladder within those regions), things “don’t feel very good,” according to Moody’s chief economist, Mark Zandi.

Zandi told Fortune in an exclusive interview that lower-income households are “hanging on by their fingertips financially.” He explained: “They’ve got a job, so that’s why they’re still able to spend and remain engaged in the economy, but increasingly … the grip feels more tenuous because no one’s getting hired. You can sustain that for a while, but you can’t sustain that forever. If the layoffs do pick up, that lower-middle-income group is gonna get nailed—and they have no options, because they really don’t have much in the way of saving.

“They have debt: They have auto debt, they have student loan debt, they may, if they’re lucky, have a mortgage, but they’re gonna struggle, and their world is going to descend into recession pretty quickly.”

In the absence of federal data during the current government shutdown, private surveys have painted a picture of a weakening consumer. The Conference Board’s U.S. Consumer Confidence Survey, released at the end of September, found that by income cohort, those on the lowest end ($25,000 to $35,000) felt worse about the economy at present than when the survey hit an average low in April this year. Moreover, a little under 20% of respondents said jobs were hard to get, and 25% expected the market to get tougher.

Indeed, Zandi has previously outlined that U.S. fortunes are “tethered” to the prospects of the wealthy as they are the only consumers spending ahead of inflation.

And while job losses and rising unemployment would usually be the hallmark of recession, Zandi said an argument could be made that the lowest earners in America are living in a recessionary environment—regardless of where in the country they live: “They don’t have any assets, they’re in a very tenuous situation, and that feels like a recession and everything except: ‘I’ve got a job.’ The thing that’s becoming more apparent is that wage growth for folks in the bottom part of the distribution is lagging now, too.”

Zandi said everyone, bar those in the top 20% of earners, doesn’t feel “very good” about the economy, and added the margin for error on employment is minute: “The way people perceive their own economy, their own finances, are very consistent with the recession—the difference here is they’re not losing jobs.

“Having said that, we’re at a 4.3% unemployment rate … Even in a recession we got 5% or 5.5%, so we’re talking about a percentage point, which is about 1.5 million people. It’s not a lot of people, right? So you could argue that that’s not a very good litmus test of whether you’re in recession or not.”
Regional breakdown

On a regional level, at the sharpest end of the recession spectrum is the District of Columbia—to be expected, Zandi said, because of this year’s mass federal layoffs and funding cuts, which have now been exacerbated by a government shutdown. These issues are also dragging down the economies of nearby states like Maryland and Virginia.

Other regions tipping into the red have also likely done so because they are home to industries impacted by White House policy, said Zandi: “A bunch of other states rely on industries that are getting hit hard by the tariffs and even the restrictive immigration policy. They’re a manufacturing base, they’re agriculture, transportation, distribution, mining—those would be some of the Midwest states—even Georgia, which was the state that surprised me the most because historically that’s been a stronger state.

“But it does have a very large manufacturing base, a big port, a lot of agriculture, and in the big Atlanta economy it’s seen a very significant weakening and inflows of people, just because I think costs have risen considerably, it’s just not quite as affordable as it was given all the pandemic-related immigration into the state, and the housing market has gone soft.”

One of the most surprising elements of the data is that the recession spread is coast to coast, as opposed to being focused around one region of downturn or another—and with this in mind, Zandi said the wider fate of the American economy lies at either end of the country: California and New York.

“Those two states are treading water. They’re big states, and if they go into the red then that’ll probably take the national economy with them into recession. If they turn up and find their way through into the blue, I think we’ll be able to avoid a downturn,” Zandi said. On the markers he’s watching in either state, he added: “In New York, the thing I would be focused on is the S&P 500 because it’s very wealthy and also the financial services sector is critical to the big New York City economy—if that stumbles, then you know New York’s going in.

“In the case of California, it’s technology and also the S&P 500, because that goes to wealth and it goes to what’s driving the caps among those AI companies that are really booming.”

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 2:43 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

How Trump Threw a Wrench Into Credit Markets

By Telis Demos | Oct 9, 2025 | Wall Street Journal

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-trump-threw-a-wrench-into-
credit-markets/ar-AA1O8EjR

Leverage combined with dramatic policymaking is proving to be a volatile mix.

Earlier this year, investors held their breath as the extent of President Trump’s tariff policies were laid out. But in the months that followed, it also became evident that the impact on the large businesses that comprise the S&P 500 may be mostly manageable. The index has since surged to all-time highs.

That doesn’t mean any policy effects went away. And some companies that are more vulnerable to policy changes, either by the narrower nature of their business, or because they had more fragile financial underpinnings, are feeling it.

That, in turn, is creating headaches for the Wall Street ecosystem that has extended credit to these companies. Many of these businesses aren’t publicly listed or well known. But they are important cogs in the markets they serve, and employ large numbers of people.

Changes to things like tariffs, healthcare spending or immigration policy are rarely cited as the sole cause of any company’s trouble. But the strain that policy changes may be putting on companies, or their customers, have been noted as events that have helped exacerbate other issues.

Another common factor is a heavy debt load, a risk that some investors worry has been accumulating in an exuberant and fast-growing market for company debts. There are even concerns about cases of fraud, which have sometimes flourished in buoyant markets.

Fortune Survey Shows Majority of CEOs Say Trump Tariffs Harm Their Businesses

In late September, auto-parts supplier First Brands Group filed for bankruptcy. According to a court filing from the company’s chief restructuring officer, recent “geopolitical uncertainty and headwinds from newly imposed tariffs have pressurized global supply chains and layered additional complications on the company’s operations.”

These included the company spending about $220 million on things such as pre-buying inventory and increasing its investment in a project to produce certain parts in the U.S., according to the filing. At the same time, the company faced “mounting funded debt and lease obligations,” the filing said, and these factors all “snowballed into a liquidity crisis.”

The bankruptcy is complicated, as the company used forms of “off-balance sheet” financing. Outside directors installed at the company are investigating the ways in which account receivables were used to secure financing, The Wall Street Journal has reported.

Other recent bankruptcies also have cited the effects of tariffs.

In June, auto-parts supplier Marelli filed for bankruptcy protection. The company’s chief executive, in a court filing, cited “macroeconomic headwinds associated with the imposition of tariffs in countries around the world.” Those headwinds “cast uncertainty on the company’s forecast and ability to service a large capital structure that would be magnified by the quantum of new financing required,” the filing said.

Home-décor retailer At Home Group also filed for bankruptcy in June. A court filing cited tariffs, including on imports from China, where it sources many of its goods, as a factor complicating its efforts to address its liquidity and manage its debt load.

In September, auto-lender Tricolor Holdings filed for a Chapter 7 liquidation. The causes of its bankruptcy also appear to be complex. The Journal has reported that one of the company’s bank financing partners has alleged fraud related to the collateral used to secure financing.

Before its bankruptcy, a different policy swing out of Washington had caused concern about the company’s lending. A June presale report by S&P Global Ratings’ structured finance group on a Tricolor securitization noted that the lender’s market niche included many immigrants, and that “changes in immigration policies and enforcement are an event risk that could lead to higher delinquency and loss levels.”

So far, despite recent bankruptcies, there hasn’t been a surge in defaults in some key markets. Even accounting for First Brands’ bankruptcy, the trailing 12-month payment default rate as of the end of September on a Morningstar LSTA index of U.S. leveraged loans was 1.47% of the loan amounts, still well below the post-pandemic peak of 1.75% hit in July 2023, according to figures compiled by PitchBook LCD.

Still, a relative paucity of visible failures isn’t the same thing as an all-clear signal for all borrowers.

Morningstar DBRS in a September report said that among some of the weakest middle-market borrowers, there hasn’t been “any notable strengthening of operating performance,” and that “this trend may be exacerbated next year by incremental stress from tariffs or further de-acceleration in economic activity.”

Though recent problems have surfaced for borrowers in the auto industry, or in retail, other sectors also may have vulnerabilities.

A report from ratings agency KBRA recently cited emerging “setbacks” to roll-ups of healthcare practices, which collectively carry about $45 billion in total debt. Their possible challenges include the potential for lower reimbursement rates from Medicare and Medicaid to squeeze their profitability, the report said.

Many companies will muddle through new challenges as they did the pandemic, or surges in interest rates. Some will even benefit from policy changes, like tax cuts, or a shift to domestic production, or get a lift from Federal Reserve rate cuts. And even in the best of times, some borrowers will run into idiosyncratic problems.

But investors struggling to understand why some people are worried about the economy, even when stock indexes are flying high, might find explanations within less-visible parts of the market.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 3:15 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Trump is full of shit: "JUST OUT: Good news for the Holiday Season. EARLY PRICES ARE DOWN, WHILE TARIFFS ARE MAKING OUR COUNTRY AN ECONOMIC POWER AGAIN. Also, virtually NO INFLATION, AS STOCK MARKETS CONTINUALLY HIT RECORD HIGHS. THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS FOR THE U.S.A."
7:10 AM · Oct 6, 2025
https://x.com/TrumpTruthOnX/status/1975171710342267001

Roughly half of U.S. states are effectively in a recession and ‘hanging on by their fingertips,’ Moody’s chief economist says

You deny an actual recession with periods of double digit inflation for 4 years and now you're going to call today a recession.

This is why nobody pays any attention to you anymore.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 4:47 PM

Keep it real please

Shush SECOND ixnay, about Trumps shitty economy. You'll upset comrade signym. And because Jack can't deny or show proof our posts are wrong, he can only say again and again, you didn't care before.

too funny...

T

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 4:54 PM

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Shush SECOND ixnay, about Trumps shitty economy. You'll upset comrade signym. And because Jack can't deny or show proof our posts are wrong, he can only say again and again, you didn't care before.

too funny...

T

Trump's economy is fine. Here's your proof, fuck stick.

It would have been a whole lot better if your boy Joe* didn't do this to us over the last 4 years:

https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-b
y-category-line-chart.htm#

You do understand that Inflation is cumulative, and that once one asshole fucks it all up that the prices never go back down to where they were before, don't you dumbass? Trump was left with the baseline prices that Joe Biden* caused when he was inaugurated.

We're at 2.7% inflation right now. Still higher than the FED target of 2%, but so much better than at any point during your idiot meatpuppet President after his first two months when he was handed an economy with only 1.4% inflation, in a 2020 where inflation was well below the FED target rate of 2%.

You're a fucking idiot, Ted. Get my name out of your mouth before I slap your stupid ass all over these boards again.

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Thursday, October 9, 2025 5:06 PM

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

CPI (ALL ITEMS) PER MONTH, DATING BACK TO JANUARY 2020.

TRUMP'S FINAL YEAR (1ST TERM):
Jan 2020
2.5%
Feb 2020
2.3%
Mar 2020
1.5%
Apr 2020
0.3%
May 2020
0.1%
June 2020
0.6%
July 2020
1.0%
Aug 2020
1.3%
Sept 2020
1.4%
Oct 2020
1.2%
Nov 2020
1.2%
Dec 2020
1.4%

JOE BIDEN'S ONLY TERM (2021-2024)
Jan 2021
1.4%
Feb 2021
1.7%
Mar 2021
2.6%
Apr 2021
4.2%
May 2021
5.0%
June 2021
5.4%
July 2021
5.4%
Aug 2021
5.3%
Sept 2021
5.4%
Oct 2021
6.2%
Nov 2021
6.8%
Dec 2021
7.0%
Jan 2022
7.5%
Feb 2022
7.9%
Mar 2022
8.5%
Apr 2022
8.3%
May 2022
8.6%
June 2022
9.1%
July 2022
8.5%
Aug 2022
8.3%
Sept 2022
8.2%
Oct 2022
7.7%
Nov 2022
7.1%
Dec 2022
6.5%
Jan 2023
6.4%
Feb 2023
6.0%
Mar 2023
5.0%
Apr 2023
4.9%
May 2023
4.0%
June 2023
3.0%
July 2023
3.2%
Aug 2023
3.7%
Sept 2023
3.7%
Oct 2023
3.2%
Nov 2023
3.1%
Dec 2023
3.4%
Jan 2024
3.1%
Feb 2024
3.2%
Mar 2024
3.5%
Apr 2024
3.4%
May 2024
3.3%
June 2024
3.0%
July 2024
2.9%
Aug 2024
2.5%
Sept 2024
2.4%
Oct 2024
2.6%
Nov 2024
2.7%
Dec 2024
2.9%

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

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Friday, October 10, 2025 1:13 PM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Inflation and Tariffs: Inflation has picked up since the tariffs were announced, with consumer price index data showing outsized increases in tariff-sensitive categories, including beef. The average tariff rate has increased to 17.4%, the highest since 1935, costing households an extra $2,300 in 2025.

Your long winded posts with you latching on to something, and completely getting it wrong are classic Signym. The other reasons you quote for high beef prices don't mean shit. This is not complicated. You don't need graphs or water shortage statistics to figure out what Trumps tariffs are doing. First, you have the price of something, in this case beef, add the cost of the tariff onto the product. In this case beef.

Even a child knows if you add 25% to the cost of something, then its cost goes up 25%. I'm laughing here because this is so simple. Again, even a child knows if American companies are paying the 25% tariff, some of that cost is passed onto the consumer; still laughing. By the way, in America it is called a tax. Trump raised everyone's taxes by raising the cost of everything they buy.

I can't believe how much time and energy you've put into two pages of this thread, arguing and defending Trumps tariffs. All the while saying they aren't killing American companies and consumers. He raised the price of everything, for business and consumer alike that has a tariff attached to it. Which is everything.

By how much did he raise our taxes? By the different tariff amounts attached to each product you buy or pay for. And more and more of those higher prices being picked up by our companies are passed onto us. I'm still laughing comrade, not really. This is a fucking nightmare.

Now, a tariff adds that amount onto the cost of a product. Regardless of other factors that may increase a price. A 25% tariff adds 25% to the cost. It's a sales, a consumption tax on the consumer. There's nothing to debate lass. If you think there is, ask a child to explain it to you.

And just a reminder. Trump is giving 2 trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top .01 percent. Where is he getting the money to replace his tax cuts for the rich? From tariffs, i.e. sales, consumption taxes of course. Also, by denying healthcare to millions, cutting NASA's budget by 47%, and so on and so on.

You know it takes a real moron to give an idiot an important job. And you did just that.

Next topic...

They're both very short comrade so watch them. Pay careful attention to the supply chain data. It's what I've been walking you up to. The key freight indicator. It's the lowest it's ever been for any September in recorded history.

It's here, it's happening and has been. It's just hitting harder now because as I've said, inventories are going to deplete. Anything that may still be in warehouses because of the tariffs companies aren't buying. I have been telling you and Gilligan these past months what was happening and what was going to happen. And even with that, you still didn't see it coming. And obviously still don't understand any of it.

tick tock

T

Latest supply chain data looks eerily like a freight recession

Price Hikes Hit American Consumers

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Friday, October 10, 2025 5:44 PM

Keep it real please

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Everything he types is idiocy.

I want to frame this on my wall comrade. Checkmate...

How are Donald Trump's tariffs hurting America

Donald Trump's 2025 tariffs are having a wide-ranging impact on the U.S. economy, and experts are raising concerns about several key areas:

?? Economic Growth and Wages
The Penn Wharton Budget Model projects that Trump's tariffs could reduce long-run U.S. GDP by about 6% and wages by 5%.

A typical middle-income household may face a $22,000 lifetime loss, which is twice as damaging as a major corporate tax hike.

?? Trucking Industry Disruption
A new 25% tariff on imported medium and heavy-duty trucks is set to begin in November 2025. This could raise costs for transportation and logistics, which affect nearly every sector of the economy.

The trucking industry employs over 2 million Americans, and higher costs could threaten jobs and increase consumer prices.

?? Agriculture and Manufacturing Hit Hard
U.S. agriculture and durable manufacturing sectors are disproportionately hurt, with reduced output, lower employment, and rising prices.

Retaliatory tariffs from other countries are compounding the damage, especially in export-heavy industries.

?? Inflation and Investment
Tariffs are increasing inflation across multiple sectors, especially where global sourcing is critical (e.g., furniture, remodeling materials).

Reduced openness to international capital flows may lead to higher interest rates and lower investment, further slowing economic activity.

?? Global Trade Slowdown
The World Trade Organization forecasts a sharp slowdown in global trade growth in 2026, largely due to the delayed impact of U.S. tariffs.

Business and consumer confidence are weakening, and inventories are shrinking as companies brace for slower GDP growth.

T

Fuck signym, how many times must I explain the damage Trump is doing to health care before you get it? Pay particular attention to the number of illegals using our health care system. I think if you're honest, it'll surprise you.

T

Red states use Obamacare more; health care cuts hit red states hardest

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Friday, October 10, 2025 6:33 PM

Hey fucker. I put the inflation numbers by month for your stupid ass to look at.

You lost another argument and didn't reply.

You're an idiot and a coward.

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Friday, October 10, 2025 7:15 PM

Keep it real please

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

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Friday, October 10, 2025 8:14 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

This isn't a legitimate reply.

This is Ted, who doesn't understand how Math works, posting a bunch of his feels and regurgitations from his mindless George Soros funded clickbait that is made for stupid people.

Shut the fuck up already, retard. Your stupid ass is unbearable. You should have been smacked around by your dad a LOT more when you were a kid.

Meanwhile, we haven't let in a single illegal alien in many, many months and we've been sending them all home.

If Harris had been elected, we'd already have another 5 million military age men living here that don't belong here.

You're goddamned right I'm happy.

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 7:40 AM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

The numbers used in my response to you were your numbers moron, not Soros's. And judging by your rant back at me, I'd say you were bested Gilligan.

T

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

This isn't a legitimate reply.

This is Ted, who doesn't understand how Math works, posting a bunch of his feels and regurgitations from his mindless George Soros funded clickbait that is made for stupid people.

Shut the fuck up already, retard. Your stupid ass is unbearable. You should have been smacked around by your dad a LOT more when you were a kid.

Meanwhile, we haven't let in a single illegal alien in many, many months and we've been sending them all home.

If Harris had been elected, we'd already have another 5 million military age men living here that don't belong here.

You're goddamned right I'm happy.

The numbers used in my response to you were your numbers moron, not Soros's. And judging by your rant back at me, I'd say you were bested Gilligan.

T

Cherry picked bullshit dude. Why didn't you put the last year of Trump's first term where inflation was well below 2% on average for the entire year before Joe Biden* blew everything up and 2 years later we were seeing 8% and 9% per month on the regular?

That's the bullshit that your George Soros funded clickbait does all the time and I'm sure they planted that little nugget of a lie in your head like all the rest of them using the same tactics they've trained you to use.

You've never bested anyone in your life. You are far too stupid to win any argument.

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 7:05 PM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I even took the liberty to dumb it down so somebody as dumb as you can understand it, Ted.

TRUMP'S 2ND TERM:
Jan 2025
3.0%
Feb 2025
2.8%
Mar 2025
2.4%
Apr 2025
2.3%
May 2025
2.4%
June 2025
2.7%
July 2025
2.7%
Aug 2025
2.9%
Sep 2025
2.7%

You don’t even understand what your numbers are telling you. Nor what happened because of COVID, the way Trump handled it and the fact that before COVID, Trump had already lost 240 thousand manufacturing jobs.

Joe Biden spent money to keep things afloat. That helped increase inflation yes but for one thing, he kept millions from winding up on the streets because they had no money for rent. And our inflation rate was still one of the lowest in the world. You are clueless.

Look at your own inflation numbers. When Trump took office end of January 2025 Biden had inflation back down to 3. %. In March it was at 2.4% and April, 2.3%. It was still Bidens economy even though Trump started destroying it on day one.

Now, look at these past four months. Three months at 2.7% and one at 2.9. It is going back up. And if you checked out my last two posts, you’ll see why it is going to go up expeditiously now. And, and because Trump is feuding with China again who, is kicking his ass. Donnie, is killing America.

But that’s what you want, so you’re happy.

T

This isn't a legitimate reply.

This is Ted, who doesn't understand how Math works, posting a bunch of his feels and regurgitations from his mindless George Soros funded clickbait that is made for stupid people.

Shut the fuck up already, retard. Your stupid ass is unbearable. You should have been smacked around by your dad a LOT more when you were a kid.

Meanwhile, we haven't let in a single illegal alien in many, many months and we've been sending them all home.

If Harris had been elected, we'd already have another 5 million military age men living here that don't belong here.

You're goddamned right I'm happy.

The numbers used in my response to you were your numbers moron, not Soros's. And judging by your rant back at me, I'd say you were bested Gilligan.

T

Cherry picked by you Gilligan. Again, you posted the numbers, not me. I just showed how they made Trump look bad. You got upset because I am right.

T

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Saturday, October 11, 2025 8:52 PM

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Cherry picked by you Gilligan. Again, you posted the numbers, not me. I just showed how they made Trump look bad. You got upset because I am right.

T

I posted ALL the numbers.

You posted 1/6th of the numbers I supplied, out of context, to make a false point.

You're an idiot and a liar and that shit doesn't fly here. Go to BlueSky with the other retards if you want people to agree with anything you have to say on any topic.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 6:55 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

How Trump Is Making China Great

Why we’re going to lose the trade war, and much more besides

Six months ago Donald Trump announced his Liberation Day tariffs — huge tariffs imposed on just about every nation. As everyone noted, this announcement suddenly brought average tariffs back to 1934 levels. Less widely noted was the fact that the long decline in tariff rates over the previous 90 years had been achieved through many rounds of international negotiations, in which the U.S. and other nations solemnly agreed not to backtrack on past tariff reductions. So Liberation Day was, among other things, a massive betrayal of the world’s trust.

Now Trump is learning, to his obvious shock, that other nations can also play trade hardball. His reaction to China’s new export controls on rare earths, which are crucial to digital technology, would be comical if the stakes weren’t so high:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

It has just been learned that China has taken an extraordinarily aggressive position on Trade in sending an extremely hostile letter to the World, stating that they were going to, effective November 1st, 2025, impose large scale Export Controls on virtually every product they make, and some not even made by them. This affects ALL Countries, without exception, and was obviously a plan devised by them years ago. It is absolutely unheard of in International Trade, and a moral disgrace in dealing with other Nations.

Based on the fact that China has taken this unprecedented position, and speaking only for the U.S.A., and not other Nations who were similarly threatened, starting November 1st, 2025 (or sooner, depending on any further actions or changes taken by China), the United States of America will impose a Tariff of 100% on China, over and above any Tariff that they are currently paying. Also on November 1st, we will impose Export Controls on any and all critical software.

It is impossible to believe that China would have taken such an action, but they have, and the rest is History. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Oct 10, 2025, 4:50 PM

Gosh. Aggressive unilateral trade action is a “moral disgrace.” Who knew?

There is, however, one big difference between Trump’s trade policy and China’s. Namely, the Chinese appear to know what they’re doing.

It should have been obvious from the beginning that if America were to get into a full-scale trade war with China, the Chinese would have the upper hand. For one thing, in real terms China has the bigger economy:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD?locations=CN-US

Furthermore, while our economies are interdependent, America is more vulnerable to a rupture than China is. True, Chinese industry has relied to an important degree on sales to the United States. But the U.S. economy is dependent on China for critical inputs, above all those rare earths. And here’s the thing: China can quickly compensate, at least in part, for the loss of the U.S. export market by stimulating domestic demand. Given time, America could wean itself from dependence on Chinese inputs — but doing so would take years.

We may be entering into an all-out trade war with China, having destroyed the non-trade advantages America used to have in the form of scientific leadership and major allies. As a result, it’s just a question of which nation can do the most damage to the other. And if those are the terms on which a trade war is fought, it’s clear who is in the stronger position. China wants access to the U.S. market, but America needs Chinese rare earths and other inputs. America is going to lose this conflict.

You might ask why, if China has this much economic leverage, it hasn’t exploited it in the past. My answer would be in part that America used to have important strengths that Trump has now thrown away. But perhaps even more important, nobody really wins a trade war. Even if the United States ends up crying uncle and making humiliating concessions — which seems the most likely outcome — China will end up poorer than it would have been if there had never been a trade war in the first place.

But Trump decided to start a trade war, and now that it’s happening, America will take a bigger hit than China, both to its economy and to its reputation. It’s bad when the world sees you as a bully; it’s worse when the world also sees you as weak. The man who promised to make America great again has probably ended our position of global leadership for the foreseeable future.

Much more at https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/how-trump-is-making-china-great

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Monday, October 13, 2025 7:58 AM

Paul would love for America to lose because he went all in on America failing and it is the only way he remains relevant.

Fuck Paul Krugman.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Paul would love for America to lose because he went all in on America failing and it is the only way he remains relevant.

Fuck Paul Krugman.

Trump threatens to shoot himself in the head. The Chinese say, "Go for it, Fatso!"

Trump is starting a war with China that he cannot win, and yet you blame Krugman?

Trump can end the war before it starts (and prevent his own suicide) by NOT increasing tariffs by 100% on Chinese imports.

Quote:
Trump ratcheted up tariff and trade tensions with Beijing on Friday. In a post on Truth Social, the president said the US would impose an additional 100% tariff on Chinese goods starting on Nov. 1.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-trump-d
ownplays-china-tensions-goldman-sees-us-consumers-paying-55-of-costs-162418187.html

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Monday, October 13, 2025 9:28 AM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Cherry picked by you Gilligan. Again, you posted the numbers, not me. I just showed how they made Trump look bad. You got upset because I am right.

T

I posted ALL the numbers.

You posted 1/6th of the numbers I supplied, out of context, to make a false point.

You're an idiot and a liar and that shit doesn't fly here. Go to BlueSky with the other retards if you want people to agree with anything you have to say on any topic.

Nope, I showed Trumps last few months of inflation numbers to show they were going up. As I said they would. And that's the point I was making. That once Trump took office he'd fuck everything up.

I also make the point from here it only gets worse. I mentioned how Chinas' feud with Trump was going to make it worse yet. And SECOND hits that point as well. The only industry doing well is the tech industry. They are artificially supporting the stock market. When China blocks them from rare minerals it's over for them as well.

Which is why comrade signym headed for the hills. She can't fight facts. Although she did try.

tick cock

T

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Monday, October 13, 2025 10:46 AM

You are a fool. There is no reasoning with fools.

We just let events play out and watch as everything you've ever said would happen never happens, meanwhile all of my predictions keep coming true.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 10:47 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Paul would love for America to lose because he went all in on America failing and it is the only way he remains relevant.

Fuck Paul Krugman.
Trump is starting a war with China that he cannot win, and yet you blame Krugman?

I don't blame Krugman for anything other than living a sweet and easy life by riling up dumb cocksuckers everyday, such as yourself. And for giving us a reason for the following question:

Even though we have the ability to teach everyone to read, should we?

I would argue that the world would be a much better place if everyone with IQ as low as you and Ted were never taught to read in the first place.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 2:02 PM

Keep it real please

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You are a fool. There is no reasoning with fools.

We just let events play out and watch as everything you've ever said would happen never happens, meanwhile all of my predictions keep coming true.

Trump says inflation has been 'defeated' as rising prices burden households

Inflation has risen in three of the last four months and is slightly higher than it was a year ago, when it helped sink then-Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign. Yet you wouldn't know it from listening to President Donald Trump or even some of the inflation fighters at the Federal Reserve.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-says-inflation-has-been-
defeated-as-rising-prices-burden-households/ar-AA1Onn1t?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68ed3c501886404ba758ceaf88ebe611&ei=18

I won't be the one surprised.

T

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Monday, October 13, 2025 2:20 PM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Paul would love for America to lose because he went all in on America failing and it is the only way he remains relevant.

Fuck Paul Krugman.

Trump bet China would face ‘tremendous difficulties’ without U.S. consumers—Beijing just focused on the rest of the world instead

President Trump’s tariff offensive against China appears to be backfiring as Beijing sidesteps U.S. consumers and boosts exports elsewhere. Chinese shipments to the U.S. plunged 27% in September, but overall exports rose 8.3%—their highest total this year—driven by strong demand from Europe and other markets.

The World Bank now expects China’s economy to grow 4.8% in 2025, while it downgraded U.S. growth to 1.4%.

Despite Trump’s renewed threat of 100% tariffs, analysts at UBS and Deutsche Bank say both sides appear open to compromise, with markets betting negotiations will resume soon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-bet-china-would-face-tre
mendous-difficulties-without-u-s-consumers-beijing-just-focused-on-the-rest-of-the-world-instead/ar-AA1OmXol?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68ed3c501886404ba758ceaf88ebe611&ei=23

Gilligan, I find your stupidity nauseating.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 4:32 PM

That's what you're presence here does to everyone else, Ted. I assume it's exactly the same in the real world and that's why you don't have any friends or family and you're all alone in your final years left on this planet.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 5:21 PM

Keep it real please

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's what you're presence here does to everyone else, Ted. I assume it's exactly the same in the real world and that's why you don't have any friends or family and you're all alone in your final years left on this planet.

If thinking that makes you happy Gilligan, you go right ahead. And thanks for the laugh.

T

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Monday, October 13, 2025 5:52 PM

This is a no spin zone here. I just tell it like it is.

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Monday, October 13, 2025 7:06 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Paul would love for America to lose because he went all in on America failing and it is the only way he remains relevant.

Fuck Paul Krugman.
Trump threatens to shoot himself in the head. The Chinese say, "Go for it, Fatso!"

Trump is starting a war with China that he cannot win, and yet you blame Krugman?

Trump can end the war before it starts (and prevent his own suicide) by NOT increasing tariffs by 100% on Chinese imports.

Quote:
Trump ratcheted up tariff and trade tensions with Beijing on Friday. In a post on Truth Social, the president said the US would impose an additional 100% tariff on Chinese goods starting on Nov. 1.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-trump-d
ownplays-china-tensions-goldman-sees-us-consumers-paying-55-of-costs-162418187.html

Trump said Don't mind me and my big reversals ten times per day:

"Don’t worry about China, it will all be fine! Highly respected President Xi just had a bad moment. He doesn’t want Depression for his country, and neither do I. The U.S.A. wants to help China, not hurt it!!!" the president wrote.

Speaking later to reporters aboard Air Force One on his way to Israel, Trump said: "I think we'll get along just fine. I have a great relationship with China."

The Chinese muttered, "Shove it up your ass, Fatso. Your words are meaningless noise."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/13/trump-meeting-
xi-china-tariffs/86672514007/

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Monday, October 13, 2025 7:41 PM

Keep it real please

A Dark Future for American Agriculture

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Keep it real please

Donald TACO Trump, is the laughing stock of the world.

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For all that I've blessed, and all that I've wronged. In dreams until my death, I will wander on.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2025 6:37 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Clarence Thomas’s Legal Clerk Issues Dire Warning About Supreme Court’s Agenda
‘BOMBSHELL’

Legal scholar Caleb Nelson is worried about the “pro-president” direction the Supreme Court seems to be moving toward.

By Wiktoria Gucia | Oct. 14 2025 2:16AM EDT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/clarence-thomas-clerk-issues-dire-warnin
g-about-supreme-courts-agenda/

A former law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas has warned that the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution “appears to be moving toward a sweepingly pro-president position.”

In an essay for the NYU Law Democracy Project, originalist legal scholar and University of Virginia School of Law professor Caleb Nelson argued that the Constitution’s text and historical context give Congress wide latitude to organize the executive branch and to impose limits on the president’s power to remove officials. https://democracyproject.org/posts/must-administrative-officers-serve-
at-the-presidents-pleasure

It’s an issue that is already front and center on the court’s docket, and one that Nelson warns “can do lasting damage to our norms and institutions” in the case of “a President bent on vengeful, destructive and lawless behavior.”

In September, the Supreme Court issued a 6–3 emergency order allowing President Donald Trump to remove Federal Trade Commission leader Rebecca Kelly Slaughter from her position. Slaughter, who was appointed to the FTC in 2018 during Trump’s first administration, argued that she was “illegally” fired in a move that violated “clear Supreme Court precedent.”

The Court will hear arguments in the case in December, when it will consider whether to overturn the 1935 precedent that limits the president’s ability to remove independent agency regulators over policy disagreements.

“It is true that Article II vests the executive power in the President,” Nelson, who clerked for Thomas from 1994 to 1995, wrote in his article. “But Congress is in charge of creating offices within the executive branch, and the Constitution does not give the President unilateral power to dictate who will fill those offices or what their authorities and duties will be.”

While the current Supreme Court has repeatedly sided with the Trump administration since the president returned to office in January, Nelson hopes “the Justices will not act as if their hands are tied and they cannot consider any consequences of the interpretations that they choose” when deciding cases like Slaughter’s.

However, The New York Times’ Supreme Court reporter Adam Liptak believes “There is little question that the court will side with the president. Its conservative majority has repeatedly signaled that it plans to adopt the ‘unitary executive theory,’ which says the original understanding of the Constitution demands letting the president remove executive branch officials as he sees fit.”

Still, Nelson’s article has elicited a massive response from the legal community.

“Bombshell!” was constitutional law scholar and professor William Baude’s immediate reaction to Nelson’s commentary. “Caleb Nelson, one of the most respected originalist scholars in the country, comes out against the unitary executive interpretation of Article II,” he wrote.
https://bsky.app/profile/williambaude.bsky.social/post/3lzyvlfbz4s2w

Nelson’s originalist understanding of the Constitution has led to his opinions previously being cited in more than a dozen Supreme Court decisions. Thomas himself referenced his former clerk’s work six times in a 2023 concurring opinion, while Justice Brett Kavanaugh named Nelson among a small group of “respected scholars” in a concurring opinion last year.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-86_l5gm.pdf
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-915_8o6b.pdf

Article II of the U.S. Constitution states that “the executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.” The “unitary executive interpretation” referenced by Baude is based on the “unitary executive theory,” which holds that the president has sole authority over the executive branch, including the power to dismiss executive branch officials at will.

“If most of what the federal government currently does on a daily basis is ‘executive,’ and if the President must have full control over each and every exercise of ‘executive’ power by the federal government (including an unlimitable ability to remove all or almost all executive officers for reasons good or bad), then the President has an enormous amount of power,” Nelson wrote.

“If a highly respected originalist scholar like Professor Nelson, on whom the court relies frequently, denies that originalism supports the unitary executive theory,” NYU law professor Richard H. Pildes told The New York Times, “that inevitably raises serious questions about an originalist justification for the court’s looming approach.”

Nelson concluded his article by issuing a warning about how upcoming decisions could impact the future.

“The current Supreme Court may likewise see itself as interpreting the Constitution for the ages, and perhaps some of the Justices take comfort in the idea that future Presidents will not all have the character of Donald Trump,” Nelson wrote. “But the future is not guaranteed; a President bent on vengeful, destructive, and lawless behavior can do lasting damage to our norms and institutions.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, October 14, 2025 6:53 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

How Crypto Became a Trump Trade

It’s primarily a vehicle for crony capitalism now

By Paul Krugman | Oct 14, 2025

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/how-crypto-became-a-trump-trade

By now it’s obvious that Donald Trump suffers from CBS — Cowardly Bully Syndrome.

On Friday, Trump blasted China’s new export controls on rare earths, declaring them a “moral disgrace” which were “obviously a plan devised by them years ago.” And he threatened to impose 100 percent tariffs on China, on top of the already high existing tariffs.

Less than a day later he was groveling:

Donald J. Trump Truth Social Post 12:43 PM EST 10/12/25
Don’t worry about China, it will all be fine! Highly respected President Xi just had a bad moment. He doesn’t want Depression for his country, and neither do I. The U.S.A, wants to help China, not hurt it!!! President DJT
12:45 PM • Oct 12, 2025 788.4K Views

So it only took a few hours to go from “a plan devised by them years ago” to they “just had a bad moment,” from “moral disgrace” to “highly respected President Xi.” The Chinese must be having a good laugh: They took Trump’s measure and he came out looking very, very small.

But what caused this quick, abject retreat? I’d like to believe that economic experts within the administration took a sober look at the situation and concluded that China would have the upper hand in a trade war. But there are no economic experts in this administration, and anyway, who would dare to tell Trump anything he doesn’t want to hear?

No, Trump was almost certainly reacting to the markets. Stocks fell sharply Friday, but the really striking action came in crypto, where Bitcoin fell 20 percent and smaller, less liquid tokens fell even more. Here, to take an arbitrary example, is what happened to the value of the official Trump coin:

Also, it just so happens that Trump himself holds an estimated $870 million worth of Bitcoin, so he suffered large personal financial losses from the crypto crash.

This was the largest one-day crash crypto has experienced so far. My question, however, is why the prospect of an intensified trade war caused a crypto crash.

Oddly, I’ve seen almost no reporting about this issue. There has been a lot about the way the crypto crash was magnified by forced sales: Many crypto investors are highly leveraged, and there were many forced liquidations — with widespread speculation that one or more “whales,” that is, major players, may have imploded. But why did a threatened trade war cause crypto to fall in the first place?

The answer, I believe, has little to do with economics and everything to do with politics. These days crypto derives its value largely from the support of politicians and government officials — in particular, officials who can be bribed. As a result, at this point crypto is largely a Trump trade. And crypto fell because the backlash against the potential trade war threatened to weaken Trump politically.

A brief history of crypto: When Bitcoin, the original crypto asset, was introduced, enthusiasts predicted that it would displace conventional fiat money, that is, currency issued by governments. The blockchain, they claimed, would make transactions using cryptocurrency easier and cheaper than transactions using dollars. And cryptocurrencies would be safe from the ravages of the printing press: governments couldn’t debase your money through inflation.

That was more than 15 years ago, and crypto has completely failed to deliver on those promises. Almost nobody uses cryptocurrency as a means of payment. A recent research paper from the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City notes that

The share of U.S. consumers who report using cryptocurrency for payments—purchases, money transfers, or both—has been very small and has declined slightly in recent years.

Here’s the chart. The blue line at the top shows the percentage of consumers using crypto for any kind of payment:

Yet the public holds roughly $4 trillion in crypto assets. Why? Largely as a pure speculative investment. In addition, however, crypto has found real-world use as a convenient tool for criminal activity and money-laundering. In fact, that Kansas City Fed paper noted that the most important reason people gave for paying in crypto was “person or business receiving the money preferred cryptocurrency.” It’s not a stretch to imagine that the reason for that preference was often the desire to hide the payment from the authorities.

As for the vision of a private currency insulated from government, at this point the biggest factor supporting the prices of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies has become the belief that Donald Trump — whose family has made billions from crypto sales, and whose party received hundreds of millions in crypto campaign contributions — will promote the industry. No pesky regulations that might limit the financial risks from stablecoins. No serious efforts to limit the use of crypto to facilitate criminal activity.

And Trump has declared his intention to create a “strategic crypto reserve.” True, this reserve will supposedly come out of crypto seized from criminals. But it would still support crypto by keeping those tokens off the market.

The prospect of high-level political support is why the prices of Bitcoin and other tokens surged when Trump won in November. As I said, at this point Bitcoin is basically a Trump trade, since it’s hard to imagine Democrats being remotely as favorable to the industry.

In the past I’ve described the case for Bitcoin as being a combination of technobabble and libertarian derp. My view about the technobabble hasn’t changed. But I will amend the case against crypto by adding that the crypto industry is one of the prime beneficiaries from a new regime of crony capitalism, in which an industry’s success depends on its ability and willingness to bribe the right people.

So why did Trump’s threat of all-out trade war with China cause crypto prices to plunge? Not because the economic damage from such a war would reduce the use of crypto, because crypto basically doesn’t have any legitimate uses. But an intensified trade war, especially a trade war America would almost surely lose, would drive Trump’s public support into an even deeper hole. And this would reduce the ability of history’s most corrupt administration to keep showering favors on the industry that made Trump rich.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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