Africa...Can we do anything? by Geezer

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Africa...Can we do anything?

POSTED BY: GEEZER
UPDATED: Monday, July 25, 2005 23:04
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Sunday, July 24, 2005 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by perfessergee:
Well, I have to tip my hat to you Finn, you've managed to completely fool me ever since I first saw your posts, and probably a whole lot of other folks on this board have been taken in as well. Despite my frequent disagreement with the ideas you post, I've always thought there must be some kind of intellectual integrity underlying them, even if I didn't agree with it. I was taken in by your rhetorical ability.

Actually, you've never shown any respect to anything I’ve had to say. You were condescending and conceited the first time I spoke with you and you still are. So nothings really changed. You’re just upset because you couldn’t intimidate me with some emotional rhetoric about you going to Africa and seeing cemeteries, as if you having seen a gravestone means you have any better clue then anyone else how that person died. And now you find out that my point of view, how ever much you may not agree, is actually supported by medical evidence from at least one leading scientist, and you really don’t know what to say, so you continue with the ad hominem in some juvenile hope that I might actually care what you think about me or my opinion. Well, I’ve never been fooled by you, and I can live comfortably without your approval.

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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.

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Sunday, July 24, 2005 5:20 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

Not really wanting to get involved where this thread is going...

But did happen across an interesting development :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4712633.stm

It appears South Africa may step up and assume some or all of Zimbabwe's IMF debt.

The stated reason being that it would not be in their interest to allow one of their neighbors to go down the toliet completely...

An interesting concept

When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/the_police/de_do_do_do_de_da_da_da.h
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Sunday, July 24, 2005 5:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

That is an intersting step. Now, if only S Africa could kick some butt too.

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Sunday, July 24, 2005 5:27 PM

GINOBIFFARONI

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Originally posted by SignyM:
That is an intersting step. Now, if only S Africa could kick some butt too.

But they do !!!

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/rugbyunion/theobserver/story/0,10541,15350
70,00.html

When my eloquence escapes you
My logic ties you up and rapes you

http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/the_police/de_do_do_do_de_da_da_da.h
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Monday, July 25, 2005 11:04 PM

PIRATEJENNY

thinking about Africa's many problems makes my head hurt!!!

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I'll save you all the bother. Dr. Duesberg posits that HIV is a "benign passenger" infection that occurs coincidentally with death from OTHER causes. In the USA, he posits that AZT and antiretroviral use causes AIDS. In Africa, it is the more-or-less standard set of diseases. He bases this statement on the "fact" that AIDS epidemic cannot be detected through unique symptomology or increased death rates that follow a bell-shaped (over time) curve typical of epidemics. But while he has an impressive pedigree, his logic and statistics are faulty.

well no matter, wether people are dying from HIV or the infections because of HIV/Aids they are still dying in alarming numbers.

I think the big problem with that is cultral, to stablize the rate of the disease, Africans are going to have to make changes. They don't believe in using contraceptives, the men still tend to have more then one wife, women have little control over their bodies. Its not just a matter of getting them medicine, without the changes in behavior, they are still going to die of the disease. The roles of women and men are clearly defined in most African cultures, until women are given more control over their bodies, not much is likely to change!!

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