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Originally posted by AURaptor:
...along w/ the Intelligence test which both took, Bush scored higher than Kerry.

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Originally posted by Khyron:

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
...along w/ the Intelligence test which both took, Bush scored higher than Kerry.

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Just shows you that intelligence tests don't work.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Wow, thank you Captain Specious Reasoning!

Bush did better in school and scored higher on a standardized intelligence test, and you ridicule the test ?

Are you a teacher, by chance? Might explain a lot if you are.

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Originally posted by Auraptor:
Is it even funnier that Bush is smarter than Kerry? I mean, based on their Yale undergrad courses and grades, along w/ the Intelligence test which both took, Bush scored higher than Kerry.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:


But the stammering, the mis-statements, the awkward humor, etc.. they basically make it impossible to hold him accountable for anything he says. It also engenders a folksy, drinking-buddy image that makes a lot of people feel comfortable. I just think he's learned it's safer bumbling around the way he does and it's a helluva lot easier.

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This would be funny if true. Do you have any sources to back this up? I'm being serious here. I'd laugh my ass off if you had proof of this.

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Kerry's weak grades came despite years of education at some of the world's most elite prep schools, ranging from Fessenden School in Massachusetts to St. Paul's School in New Hampshire

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. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy.

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Mr. Bush’s score on the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test at age 22 again suggests that his I.Q was the mid-120’s, putting Mr. Bush in about the 95th percentile of the population, according to Mr. Sailer. Mr. Kerry’s I.Q. was about 120, in the 91st percentile, according to Mr. Sailer’s extrapolation of his score at age 22 on the Navy Officer Qualification Test.

Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. “People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can’t understand,” Professor Gottfredson said

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I tend to go by vocabulary usage, which I admit is a primative tool, but an amazingly effective one. It's very seldom wrong, except in the case of autistics, and that is neither of these doofs.

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But prove to me that Kerry is indeed, or was in college, dumber than Bush and my hat's off...That said, Bush is still a moron.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I tend to go by vocabulary usage, which I admit is a primative tool, but an amazingly effective one. It's very seldom wrong, except in the case of autistics, and that is neither of these doofs

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Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis said she was not surprised at the results or that so many people had assumed that Mr. Kerry was smarter. - “People will often be misled into thinking someone is brighter if he says something complicated they can’t understand,”

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In 1985, Gottfredson participated in a conference called "The g Factor in Employment Testing." The papers presented were later published in the December 1986 issue of the Journal of Vocational Behavior, edited by Gottfredson. In 1986, Gottfredson was appointed Associate Professor of Educational Studies at the University of Delaware, Newark. That year, she presented a series of papers on general intelligence factor and employment.

In 1988 Gottfredson received the first of many grants from the Pioneer Fund for work on educational differences and occupational policy. In 1989, University of Delaware's promotion and tenure committee denied Gottfredson promotion to full professor, citing "flawed" and "unscholarly" research. She was promoted to full professor the next year.

Gottfredson's research and views have stirred considerable controversy, especially her testimony on public affirmative action policy and her defense of The Bell Curve. Since that time she has written a number of articles on race and intelligence, especially as it applies to occupational qualification.

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In 1985, Gottfredson participated in a conference called "The g Factor in Employment Testing." The papers presented were later published in the December 1986 issue of the Journal of Vocational Behavior, edited by Gottfredson. In 1986, Gottfredson was appointed Associate Professor of Educational Studies at the University of Delaware, Newark. That year, she presented a series of papers on general intelligence factor and employment.

In 1988 Gottfredson received the first of many grants from the Pioneer Fund for work on educational differences and occupational policy. In 1989, University of Delaware's promotion and tenure committee denied Gottfredson promotion to full professor, citing "flawed" and "unscholarly" research. She was promoted to full professor the next year.

Gottfredson's research and views have stirred considerable controversy, especially her testimony on public affirmative action policy and her defense of The Bell Curve. Since that time she has written a number of articles on race and intelligence, especially as it applies to occupational qualification.

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I give you Linda Gottfredson, the right-wing equivalent of Ward Churchill

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Let us not forget those long years of hard boozin', which did his brain exactly NO good.

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Sterling academic credentials. Impeccable ethics.

That's what makes her opinion so ... invaluable.

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Originally posted by HaoLeHaoLe:
Do what you want - so long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. Big government is a sham and a scam (gov't loves your dependence). Economically very conservative, socially very liberal. Gay marriage? Who cares? Go for it. Pot? Light up. Ain't hurting me at all...

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Jefferson's term was marked by his belief in agrarianism, individual liberty, and limited government, sparking the development of a distinct American identity defined by republicanism.

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Adams wished to warn his fellow Americans against all revolutionary manifestos that envisioned a fundamental break with the past and a fundamental transformation in human nature or society that supposedly produced a new age.

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