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Bad News Bush

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
UPDATED: Saturday, March 25, 2006 04:04
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Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:22 AM

I know this may sound schitzoid, but things are bad for Bush, and I have to knock him down a few.

1. Apparently he actually held a meeting with gonzalez, cheney et al in late 2001 to see if they could "get around" the 4th amendment.

2. The argument used by the president about being outside the law but within his rights with extreme executive authority seems to also logically conclude that he can execute american citizens at will, and may have *even done so* in guantanamo bay, cuba.

3. A bill which has never passed the house was signed into law by president. The deficit reduction omnibus reconcilliation act of 2005 is not law, but it is procedure under which we operate (huh?)

Okay, I'm calling it, if a bit late, here. It's official, we got a rogue president on our hands. I can't even give this a score. I say, arrest him, bring him in, give him a fair trial, and then we'll see. But in a circumstance where the president exists outside the law, I can't recognize him as president of the united states.

I suggest we come up with a new term for him, like the brits did for Oliver Cromwell. Here's some ideas:

We could call him the resident. Resident of the United States George W. Bush.
Governor Bush.
Ex-Governor Bush?
Bush MBA?
Mister Bush?
Former Cheerleader Bush?
Debtor in Chief?

Any other ideas?

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:27 AM

SIGMANUNKI

I remember a Scottish paper calling him the un-president.

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:37 AM

HKCAVALIER

My fave would be "President Evil" after the video game.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:14 PM

COPILOT

Yeah it's not funny anymore now it's just scary. I tried watching a press confrence a couple of days ago and all I could think was he's going to kill us all and we're gonna see it coming. I should get involved but I'm not and I don't know why but it just seems hopeless. It's very head in the sand but I'm just gonna wait it out and hope for the best.

An I carried such a torch

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:21 PM

DREAMTROVE

HK, welcome back,

I like the president evil idea.

I think we should look into why Umbrella Corporation is getting all of these no bid contracts, and exactly what they've done with all these WMDs.

The levies have broken and Raccoon City is flooded with zombies.

Also, why has the budget suddenly been cut for S.T.A.R.S. while spending on Dept of UMBC Security and the Medicare Progenitor program has Twixiltupled?

Have the zombie wars gotten bogged down in a quagmire, or has it degenerated into infighting?

Who exactly has been whisked away to Rockfort Island and why?

Oh dear. This parallel worked out far better than I thought it would when I began. Yet, though not unattractive, somehow Condi just doesn't compare with Milla.

(dreading the VGPs)

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:24 PM

EVILDINOSAUR

yep, glad ya caught on, better late than never i suppose

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Please, get over it.

He's the President. That's all. Just get over it.

Quote:
1. Apparently he actually held a meeting with gonzalez, cheney et al in late 2001 to see if they could "get around" the 4th amendment.

- Guesss they didn't "get around" the 4th ammendment, did they ? Apparently not.

Quote:
2. The argument used by the president about being outside the law but within his rights with extreme executive authority seems to also logically conclude that he can execute american citizens at will, and may have *even done so* in guantanamo bay, cuba.

May have even done so, huh? Wow, that really sounds incredible. More like inflamitory nonsense. Was Charlie Sheen your source for this tripe?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:43 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Guesss they didn't "get around" the 4th ammendment, did they ? Apparently not.

Well this guy tried to rob a bank sure, but he failed so it's all gravy...

The funny thing is you think thats a defence.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:56 PM

DREAMTROVE

Actually, I don't know what your talking about Auraptor.

1. Yeah, sure, they did get around the 4th amendment. But that's not the point. The president takes an oath, that oath not only legally binds him but symbolizes a commitment. I got this from MSNBC.

2. What does Charlie Sheen have to do with anything? My source for this one was Arlen Specter.

3. WTF is it with you guys? I mean I know your reaction to the above is probably going to be MSNBC bah Specter bah, so I have to say pre-emptively, we're in this party too you know. I mean you neocons act as if you're the party and we're some tinfoil hat circle.

Well, news flash. We're the party, and you are the tinfoil hat circle. You have the executive, such as it is, bravo you, because you're christian looney fringe stormed the primary. But this party was founded by people like me, and historically is a lot closer to us politically than it is to Pat Robertson or Alberto Gonzalez or Richard Perle, or Paul Wolfowitz.

I've had it, and I'm not alone. If Chrisitans want to join the conservative struggle for a lasting prosperous peaceful stable society then they are more than welcome do so by any of us. But that's not what's happened here. Neocons didn't come in to help us with our cause. They came in with their own agenda and couldn't give a rats ass about what we believe in.

Well God damn it I'm pretty ticked off, and I'm not any more ticked than any other old school conservative who's been paying any attention at all.

I think it's high time we show these folks the door. Anyone who thinks big spending, bottomless deficits, large government control structures, huge beaurocraies, handouts to their friends, socially motivated military expansionism, stealing assets and natural resources from said countries and giving them as gifts to friends, giving no bid contracts to companies while holding a vested intrest in said companies, widespread environmental destruction, sacraficing the US economy, bankrupting American industry while favoring in the extreme corrupt overseas interests including those with ties to communism and terrorism, totally ignoring the constitution, nominating personal friends and yesmen to high positions, totally ignoring personal privacy, supressing the rights of ordinary Americans, passing emergency legislation to increase executive power, allowing an executive to act completely outside the law, intentionally committing acts of high treason for personal or partisan political gain or to forward a radical agenda originally cooked up in writing by people who openly admitted to being communists, and this, my absolute favorite: Not only holding people without charge indefinitely but TORTURING them, in some cases TO DEATH, including an uncounted number children under the age of FOURTEEN, and yes, not one of the items list hear is *even remotely* in the realm of speculation, and every single one of these is not only enough to get a president impeached, but shot by a firing squad of a military tribunal of their own govt., and if anyone, anybody at all, thinks that this their idea of good leadership: Allow me to show you to the door.

I think all of this arguing of the specifics of one case vs. another on each issue and all of this whether Bush is a conservative or really a republican at all or a democrat mole or a socialist mole, or whether it's him or cheney calling the shots - really missed the point.

The actions speak for themselves. This is horrible leadership. Abominible. The Bush Admin is really nothing short of an abomination.

Here's the saddest part of all: I've undoubtedly understated the case against Bush. And you know, because I would never do such a thing, not one of these is a left wing stance. Every single item on that very long list is a way in which the Bush Admin has offended my right wing republican sensibilities.

Okay, here are some I've left out: Bush has deliberately undermined the advancement of new technologies which could be a boon to american industry and the US standard of living such as stem cell research. He has also threatened separation of church and state, if not utterly repealed it, and while I support his respect for faith, and second it, it has not been for freedom of religion but alway in favor of Christianity.

I know I'm leaving stuff out. Oh, here's one, his constant federalization of power and decision making, and I know there were a couple of deliberate attempts to take away the power of the states and overrule them on specific issues. I think there were at least two cases here, someone help me out here. (States rights being another republican party platform issue.)

Okay. If I were to guess, I would say that there are still ten impeachable offenses which are just violations of conservative values and the republican party platform and oh yeah the law. International laws too, tons of them. I heard the just earlier today that we were not in violation of Nuremburg.

Oh yeah doctrine of pre-emptive war, I hope I mentioned that, and how about the use of chemical weapons by *us* in Iraq against civilian population something which our own military has admitted to, no tinfoil hats needed here, of course I'm refering to the depleted uranium, but I'm sure there are others.

Oh, and Katrina, and Katrina corruption.

Oh, and Darfur, the totally not doing anything about darfur, and it's worse than that. Do you know that Bush gave anti terrorism funds to Deby president of Chad who then gave it to Al Qaeda to invade Darfur which is how this mess started?

And oh yeah, the big not doing anything about the annexation of Taiwan, our allie and another country of 23 million people who just now are having their democracy shut down.

And North Korea, another do nothing while a mad man who has threatened to attack the US and our allies to get nuclear weapons...

Does anyone remember when Bush proposed the mandatory drugging of schoolchildren? All to raise more money for his friends.

Oh yeah and all that contract money which just disappears?

Please people, help me out here, I must be missing some non-partisan Bush crimes. Everyone gets to play.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:37 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

In Secret Unit's 'Black Room,' a Grim Portrait of U.S. Abuse

U.S. Budget Deficit Hits Record in Feb

list of all U.S. ports affected (21, not 6)

In January 2003, Waas says, the president was handed a summary of a National Intelligence Estimate. "The report stated that U.S. intelligence agencies unanimously agreed that it was unlikely that Saddam would try to attack the United States

US intelligence agencies reclassify archive documents

New government data indicate that the concentration of corporate wealth among the highest-income Americans grew significantly in 2003

Spying Program Snared U.S. Calls

Human testing has become central to the regulatory plans of the chemical companies

Oscar S. Wyatt Jr., the flamboyant Texas oil trader who flaunted his close ties to the regime of Saddam Hussein, was indicted yesterday in federal court in New York on charges that he paid millions of dollars in kickbacks to the regime to sell Iraqi oil under a United Nations program.

The Emergency Agency Worker Tells of Response by FEMA

This is just a random sampling since DECEMBER 2005 of Bush and his thugs. WTF does this guy have to do to lose the support of the 33% of crazies in the US ??? !!!

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Friday, March 24, 2006 3:46 AM

DREAMTROVE

Rue,

Wealth distribution is probably largely due to web entrepreneurs as much as Bush handouts.

But I agree, all of those are non-partisan horrible flaws with Bush I failed to mention. I think that there's probably enough guilty to lock up the administration and its backers for a good while.

But remember, all this and he still didn't kill as many people as Clinton, I just, as I jog people on the right to beg them to give up on Bush, I would say, because I know you're on the left, be just as dilligent with you own people, because pretty soon the same monster will be in power, only it will be called Hillary Clinton.

Okay, WTF?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188817,00.html

Bush is now considering nixing talks with Iran?

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Friday, March 24, 2006 4:03 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

WTF does this guy have to do to lose the support of the 33% of crazies in the US ??? !!!

Bush does what is necessary. Rue, you're a human man, and you'll never understand....

Just goofin'- ain't sayin' Bush is the Operative (not that smart) Chrisisall

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Friday, March 24, 2006 7:53 AM

CITIZEN

Parliment Jester BushIsAlmost Funny...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 10:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

The 31% overlaps with the mentally-deformed who think that the world is 6000 years old, along with another group of mentally-deformed who have their noses stuck so far up Bush's behind that they'll fall off the cliff in one unbroken chain of crazies.

Do you have any idea how wealthy Cheney and Bush's uncle have gotten from no-bid contracts to their favorite enterprises? I mean, from a few millions to billions. This is off the blood of our armed forces F*ckers. Every single one.

And now Bush wants to give Hong Kong control of nuclear security for our shipping? WTF??? Now if THAT isn't some kind of payoff I don't knwo what is!

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Free as in freedom, not beer.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 6:53 PM

DREAMTROVE

Hong Kong was our ally we should have defended, now it's ruled by commies. Anyway, I believe the ending of that so far up Bush's --- was --- that they can smell the near-beer.

About $100B is how much the crony's have made off of this kleptocracy. I imagine some folks of the forum got their little bennies of the big Bush pay off. My uncle got free trips to Korea, and even offered state sponsored hookers, which is enough to make him sing the praises of Mr. Resident.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 7:30 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

'kleptocracy'

Another quotable quote.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Commander-in-Thief?

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Free as in freedom, not beer.

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