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Piratenews! -- All the news that’s fit to print, but not worth reading

Top Five Most Wacko Conspiracy Theories as proposed by Piratenews

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Abrams tank firing DU round: the depleted uranium begins burning when fired, producing a mist of poisonous uranium oxides. If an Abrams tank is fired on it will also create radioactive aerosols because the armour contains DU as well. Depleted uranium (DU) is the heavy metal which remains after the more radioactive, bomb-making uranium (isotope U235) has been extracted. This remaining metal is largely composed of U238, which is less dangerous than U235, but which is still radioactive (carcinogenic) and poisonous. In the case of US-sourced DU, which appears to be reprocessed reactor waste, it may also contain more radioactive elements such as plutonium. DU is a very dense, very heavy metal, and it is this property which has interested the military. Munitions (bombs and shells) made of DU fly further and faster than projectiles made of less dense metals such as lead. They therefore strike the target with more force, and penetrate armour more readily. On impact, the DU projectile liquefies, and the molten stream tunnels through the armour, emerging as a blast of hot metal; fine particles and vapour. This, of course, results in the immediate death of those behind the pierced armour, but the fine particles and vapour remain as a permanent threat to any who later come near.
www.big.com.au/corrdh_0404.html

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Originally posted by reaverman:

Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel". Have you ever fired a gun? I have. I have fired pistols, rifles, assault rifles, and battle rifles, and the ammunition sure as hell never got that hot then. Heat doesn't come from nowhere. The heat of a bullet comes from the ignition of the powder charge, and you can't tell me that gunpowder gets that hot.

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Abrams tank firing DU round: the depleted uranium begins burning when fired, producing a mist of poisonous uranium oxides. If an Abrams tank is fired on it will also create radioactive aerosols because the armour contains DU as well. Depleted uranium (DU) is the heavy metal which remains after the more radioactive, bomb-making uranium (isotope U235) has been extracted. This remaining metal is largely composed of U238, which is less dangerous than U235, but which is still radioactive (carcinogenic) and poisonous. In the case of US-sourced DU, which appears to be reprocessed reactor waste, it may also contain more radioactive elements such as plutonium. DU is a very dense, very heavy metal, and it is this property which has interested the military. Munitions (bombs and shells) made of DU fly further and faster than projectiles made of less dense metals such as lead. They therefore strike the target with more force, and penetrate armour more readily. On impact, the DU projectile liquefies, and the molten stream tunnels through the armour, emerging as a blast of hot metal; fine particles and vapour. This, of course, results in the immediate death of those behind the pierced armour, but the fine particles and vapour remain as a permanent threat to any who later come near.
www.big.com.au/corrdh_0404.html


DU kinetic energy penetrator ass end on fire

Uranium is one of the heaviest elements found in nature and is emits alpha, beta, and gamma particles. It is 1.7 times denser than lead.12 The half-life of U238 (DU is 99% U238) is 4.5 billion years!13 Uranium byproducts(such as Thorium (Th232)) have even longer half-lives, making uranium an element that gets more radioactive during its own decay process.5 Natural uranium is 99.274% U238, 0.720% U235, and 0.0055% U234.14a Uranium is enriched when its contents of U235 reaches 3.2-3.6% (since U235 is fissible). Weapon-grade uranium is +90% U235.14a What is depleted uranium? We start out with natural uranium and extract enriched uranium for nuclear fuel and weaponry. The leftover from the extraction process is something very similar to natural uranium, known as “depleted uranium”. The only difference is that DU has 0.202% of U235 and 0.0008% of U234.14a How much DU do we currently have? As of June 1998, we have around 57,800 huge steel cylinders of DU or 496,000 metric tons. 14b Storage of DU is very complicated and problematic since corrosion of DU storage cylinders often occurs over relatively short periods of time.15 Depleted uranium is stored as Uranium Flouride (UF6) in giant cylinders. When the projectile cuts through the armor, the DU penetrator and parts of the tank get so hot that it literally vaporizes. Anywhere from 18-70% of the DU usually oxidizes (depending on type of impact).14c For example, direct impact yields 99% oxidization. A Uranium oxide (which consists of insoluble UO2 and soluble UO3) aerosol forms, where 50-96% of the particles are less than 10 microns and hence can be inhaled easily.2 DU is extremely toxic and still contains much of the radiation that natural uranium has. For example, US Army field manuals indicate that those who handle DU contaminated vehicles or DU injured individuals must wear gas masks and protective radiological suits.14f There are at least 15-17 countries that currently possess DU ammunition (e.g. US, Britain, France, Israel, Egypt, Russia, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.)14c,13 A harmful reaction by Allied veterans to chemical, biological, and radiological effects from the Gulf War culminated into what is known as Gulf War Syndrome (part of the cause is potentially due to DU weaponry). A very recent similar series of events occurred with post-DU use in the Balkans, which lead to “Balkan War Syndrome”. The Gulf War is an older case but was the first time that the US military employed DU weaponry on a large military scale against an enemy. DU rounds have a silver-like luster due to the aluminum coating. An important thing to consider was how much DU was actually dumped onto Iraqi territory. Around 9,640 tanks shells and 850,000 aircraft 30mm rounds were used. 14f This translates to nearly 650,000 pounds of actual DU deposited on Iraqi soil!14f That’s a lot of nuclear waste! (Gulf War #1 not Gulf War #2 which was far higher.) Over 200 vehicles that were hit by friendly fire were analyzed by the US military. 14f Over 29 vehicles were found with abnormally high radioactive levels. 12 vehicles (including 6 Bradleys) were buried in Saudi Arabia due to substantial radioactive levels.14f Numerous soldiers were also rumored to have been affected by DU. British SAS and US special forces, cleanup crews, and a wide variety of other military personnel who were constantly in the presence of DU contaminated sites were analyzed and in many cases shown to have contained abnormally high levels of uranium and radiation poisoning. Many veterans (not just those suffering from friendly fire) continue to have persistent medical problems. During the Gulf War, over 85% of military soldiers have wandered through at least some DU contaminated sites (e.g. destroyed Iraqi vehicles, bunkers, etc.) 14i. Veteran groups estimate that +400,000 Gulf personnel have inhaled some amount of DU dust. In regions heavily hit by DU, studies have shown that numerous civilians have extensive problems with their immune systems, malignant cancers (such as ludicrously high leukemia rates), heart problems, and bizarre abnormal birth defects (such as children born without eyes, ears, tongue, etc.).2


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“When we climbed into vehicles after they’d been hit, no matter what time or day or night it was, you couldn’t see three feet in front of you. You breathed in that dust.”
-Dr. Doug Rokke, Gulf War veteran, US Army clean up crew

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http://cseserv.engr.scu.edu/StudentWebPages/IPesic/ResearchPaper.htm

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I'm a chemist... and I agree. But I was't even gonna go there because to take the time to refute PN is to give more credance to his posts than they deserve.

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Abrams tank firing DU round: the depleted uranium begins burning when fired, producing a mist of poisonous uranium oxides. If an Abrams tank is fired on it will also create radioactive aerosols because the armour contains DU as well. Depleted uranium (DU) is the heavy metal which remains after the more radioactive, bomb-making uranium (isotope U235) has been extracted. This remaining metal is largely composed of U238, which is less dangerous than U235, but which is still radioactive (carcinogenic) and poisonous. In the case of US-sourced DU, which appears to be reprocessed reactor waste, it may also contain more radioactive elements such as plutonium. DU is a very dense, very heavy metal, and it is this property which has interested the military. Munitions (bombs and shells) made of DU fly further and faster than projectiles made of less dense metals such as lead. They therefore strike the target with more force, and penetrate armour more readily. On impact, the DU projectile liquefies, and the molten stream tunnels through the armour, emerging as a blast of hot metal; fine particles and vapour. This, of course, results in the immediate death of those behind the pierced armour, but the fine particles and vapour remain as a permanent threat to any who later come near.
www.big.com.au/corrdh_0404.html


DU kinetic energy penetrator ass end on fire

Uranium is one of the heaviest elements found in nature and is emits alpha, beta, and gamma particles. It is 1.7 times denser than lead.12 The half-life of U238 (DU is 99% U238) is 4.5 billion years!13 Uranium byproducts(such as Thorium (Th232)) have even longer half-lives, making uranium an element that gets more radioactive during its own decay process.5 Natural uranium is 99.274% U238, 0.720% U235, and 0.0055% U234.14a Uranium is enriched when its contents of U235 reaches 3.2-3.6% (since U235 is fissible). Weapon-grade uranium is +90% U235.14a What is depleted uranium? We start out with natural uranium and extract enriched uranium for nuclear fuel and weaponry. The leftover from the extraction process is something very similar to natural uranium, known as “depleted uranium”. The only difference is that DU has 0.202% of U235 and 0.0008% of U234.14a How much DU do we currently have? As of June 1998, we have around 57,800 huge steel cylinders of DU or 496,000 metric tons. 14b Storage of DU is very complicated and problematic since corrosion of DU storage cylinders often occurs over relatively short periods of time.15 Depleted uranium is stored as Uranium Flouride (UF6) in giant cylinders. When the projectile cuts through the armor, the DU penetrator and parts of the tank get so hot that it literally vaporizes. Anywhere from 18-70% of the DU usually oxidizes (depending on type of impact).14c For example, direct impact yields 99% oxidization. A Uranium oxide (which consists of insoluble UO2 and soluble UO3) aerosol forms, where 50-96% of the particles are less than 10 microns and hence can be inhaled easily.2 DU is extremely toxic and still contains much of the radiation that natural uranium has. For example, US Army field manuals indicate that those who handle DU contaminated vehicles or DU injured individuals must wear gas masks and protective radiological suits.14f There are at least 15-17 countries that currently possess DU ammunition (e.g. US, Britain, France, Israel, Egypt, Russia, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.)14c,13 A harmful reaction by Allied veterans to chemical, biological, and radiological effects from the Gulf War culminated into what is known as Gulf War Syndrome (part of the cause is potentially due to DU weaponry). A very recent similar series of events occurred with post-DU use in the Balkans, which lead to “Balkan War Syndrome”. The Gulf War is an older case but was the first time that the US military employed DU weaponry on a large military scale against an enemy. DU rounds have a silver-like luster due to the aluminum coating. An important thing to consider was how much DU was actually dumped onto Iraqi territory. Around 9,640 tanks shells and 850,000 aircraft 30mm rounds were used. 14f This translates to nearly 650,000 pounds of actual DU deposited on Iraqi soil!14f That’s a lot of nuclear waste! (Gulf War #1 not Gulf War #2 which was far higher.) Over 200 vehicles that were hit by friendly fire were analyzed by the US military. 14f Over 29 vehicles were found with abnormally high radioactive levels. 12 vehicles (including 6 Bradleys) were buried in Saudi Arabia due to substantial radioactive levels.14f Numerous soldiers were also rumored to have been affected by DU. British SAS and US special forces, cleanup crews, and a wide variety of other military personnel who were constantly in the presence of DU contaminated sites were analyzed and in many cases shown to have contained abnormally high levels of uranium and radiation poisoning. Many veterans (not just those suffering from friendly fire) continue to have persistent medical problems. During the Gulf War, over 85% of military soldiers have wandered through at least some DU contaminated sites (e.g. destroyed Iraqi vehicles, bunkers, etc.) 14i. Veteran groups estimate that +400,000 Gulf personnel have inhaled some amount of DU dust. In regions heavily hit by DU, studies have shown that numerous civilians have extensive problems with their immune systems, malignant cancers (such as ludicrously high leukemia rates), heart problems, and bizarre abnormal birth defects (such as children born without eyes, ears, tongue, etc.).2


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“When we climbed into vehicles after they’d been hit, no matter what time or day or night it was, you couldn’t see three feet in front of you. You breathed in that dust.”
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PN, it's called a Periodic Table.

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Depleted uranium is stored as Uranium FLOURIDE (UF6) in giant leaky cylinders.
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INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF THE EAST TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGY PARK

Office of Environment, Safety and Health, U.S. Department of Energy (2000)

Pollution above toxic levels surrounding Oak Ridge Nuclear Laboratory (ETTP)

HTML Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/index.html

PDF Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/0010ettp.html

Verbatum from the declassified portion of the Report:

"Conservative estimates indicated that 35,000 pounds of uranium were released into the air from all sources. 4,300 pounds of uranium a month was unaccounted for or released to the environment. ETTP operates an incinerator which handles radioactive, hazardous and uranium-contaminated PCB wastes. ETTP generated transuranic elements (isotopes with atomic numbers greater than uranium) such as neptunium-237 and plutonium-239; fission products such as techneitum-99; PCBs; toxic metals; and volatile organic compunds such as trichloroethene (TCE) and present risk to the public. Some contaminants migrated outside the Plant boundary. Waste disposal practices included direct discharge of radioactive materials, toxics and caustics to holding ponds and storm drains, and incineration and burial. Reports reflected a number of spills of nitric and hydrochloric acids, in one case 200 gallons. Numerous large fires and explosions were reported. It is impossible to characterize exposure because of inadequate surveys and incomplete records. Records indicate that as contamination levels increased, exposure controls were reduced. Contamination above limits was commonly detected. Operations have released a variety of contaminants into the environment, such as burial of low-level and hazardous waste in landfills and dumping directly into the Clinch River. Large amounts of contaminated equipment and scrap material were sold at public auction. Tens of thousands of pounds of flourine and hydrogen flouride were emitted annually. The investigation team identified over 600 releases of uranium hexaflouride, and a large, visible cloud was released outside a building. Exposure to 'intense clouds' of uranium powder dusts was prevalent and resulted in intense beta radiation fields. Each month dozens or workers were identified as having exposures exceeding plant control guides. Extensive contamination was prevalent. Recordsindicate many air samples in excess of Plant Allowable Limits. Both chemical and radiological materials have routinely been discharged from the Plant, from both sanitary sewage and storm water systems and materials were directly discharged in Mitchell Branch and Poplar Creek. One million pounds of blowdown water was discharged a day. The hexavalent chromium concentration in Poplar Creek is equal to the level regulated by the site's permit. Contents of 500 uranium hexafloride and other gas cylinders were emptied into the unlined holding pond by shooting the cylinders with high-powered rifles, and this pond discharged into Poplar Creek. Records confirm that radiation exceeded drinking water standards. Over 80,000 drums of pond sludge with low concentrations of uranium were generated in 1988. Ventilation was modified to discharge mercury fumes above the roof. Elevated levels of mercury were found in urinalyses. Records refer to the recovery of tons of mercury. Traps would blow out spilling mercury on the floor. Air sampling in the 1990s identified mercury levels several times the Threshold Limit Value. Continual and volumnous process leaks (blowoffs) were vented to the atmosphere. 4,300 pounds of uranium hexaflouride were released per month. Losses were excessive. 10,000 union grievances were filed and management disputed grievances concerning safety in favor of economic considerations. Many storm drains were not moitored before 1992, and routine and accidental wastes have adversely impacted the environment and the aquatic habitat. Weaknesses in the sampling and monitoring of air pollutant emissions raise concerns regarding the accuracy of public dose and exposure calculations. Environmental radiological protection and surveillance are not compliant with DOE Order. Few records reflect involvement by the Atomic Energy Commission in investigations of serious events. Levels of airborne radioactivity were as high as 35,800 dpm/ft3, and far exceeded the PAL of 2 dpm/ft3. [That's radiation levels over 17,000 times the maximum limit.] Airborne radioactivity far in excess of normal background levels was measured off-site as far as five miles away. A number of criticality and sub-criticality accident experiments were performed and posed a severe radiation hazard. Bladder cancer rates were seven times higher than for the general population, and stomach ulcers were 6.5 times greater. Inhalation of airborn radiation can increase the risk of future cancer." (verbatum from the Report)

NOTE: This report only covered the K-25 plant, not the DOE National Nuclear Security Administration's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory, not the thousands of contaminated lab rats from ORNL's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory Mouse House that are incinerated at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in downtown Knoxville, and did not cover Top Secret "criticality" pollution, "referred to as 'special hazards'" (ie, "small" explosions due to accidental nuclear reactions), and "are discussed in a separate classifed document." The GOPS government of Tennessee previously gave ETTP/ORNL a clean bill of health in 1999.

RALPH NADER ON NUKES: "High-level nuclear waste will be hazardous for more than 200,000 years. An Energy Department study found that a severe accident in a rural area could contaminate a 42-square-mile area, require over a year to 'clean up', and cost $620 million."

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Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments (ACHRE)
http://gwis.circ.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/

ACHRE was created by President Clinton on January 15, 1994 to investigate and report on the use of human beings as subjects of federally funded research using ionizing radiation.

11. Intentional Releases: Lifting the Veil of Secrecy
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre/chap11.html

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PERIODIC CHART - FLOURINE (FLOURIDE)

Fluorine is an univalent poisonous gaseous halogen, it is pale yellow-green and it is the most chemically reactive and electronegative of all the elements. Fluorine readily forms compounds with most other elements, even with the noble gases krypton, xenon and radon. It is so reactive that glass, metals, and even water, as well as other substances, burn with a bright flame in a jet of fluorine gas. When fluorine is attached to very small particles it can remain in the air for a long period of time. In the atmosphere 0.6 ppb of fluorine are present as salt spray and organicochloride compounds. Up to 50 ppb has been recorded in city environments. If fluorine is absorbed too frequently, it can cause teeth decay, osteoporosis and harm to kidneys, bones, nerves and muscles. Fluorine gas is released in the industries. This gas is very dangerous, as it can cause death at very high concentrations. When fluorine from the air ends up in water it will settle into the sediment. When it ends up in soils, fluorine will become strongly attached to soil particles. In the environment fluorine cannot be destroyed. Too much fluoride, wheater taken in form the soil by roots, or asdorbed from the atmosphere by the leaves, retards the growth of plants and reduces crop yields. Animals that are exposed to high concentrations of fluorine suffer from dental decay and bone degradation.
www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/F-en.htm

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PROZAC®FLUOXETINE HYDROCHLORIDE WARNING

Suicidality in Children and Adolescents — Antidepressants increased the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in short-term studies in children and adolescents with major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. It is designated (±)-N-methyl-3-phenyl-3-[(α,α,α-trifluoro-p-tolyl)oxy]propylamine hydrochloride and has the empirical formula of C17H18F3NO•HCl.
www.prozac.com

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The only thing more brainless than Piratenews's posts is people responding to them.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

But DU does not "burn" (oxidize) when it exits a weapon. Juicing up a story like that just undercuts your own arguments.

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Abrams tank firing DU round: the depleted uranium begins burning when fired, producing a mist of poisonous uranium oxides. If an Abrams tank is fired on it will also create radioactive aerosols because the armour contains DU as well. Depleted uranium (DU) is the heavy metal which remains after the more radioactive, bomb-making uranium (isotope U235) has been extracted. This remaining metal is largely composed of U238, which is less dangerous than U235, but which is still radioactive (carcinogenic) and poisonous. In the case of US-sourced DU, which appears to be reprocessed reactor waste, it may also contain more radioactive elements such as plutonium. DU is a very dense, very heavy metal, and it is this property which has interested the military. Munitions (bombs and shells) made of DU fly further and faster than projectiles made of less dense metals such as lead. They therefore strike the target with more force, and penetrate armour more readily. On impact, the DU projectile liquefies, and the molten stream tunnels through the armour, emerging as a blast of hot metal; fine particles and vapour. This, of course, results in the immediate death of those behind the pierced armour, but the fine particles and vapour remain as a permanent threat to any who later come near.
www.big.com.au/corrdh_0404.html


DU kinetic energy penetrator ass end on fire

Uranium is one of the heaviest elements found in nature and is emits alpha, beta, and gamma particles. It is 1.7 times denser than lead.12 The half-life of U238 (DU is 99% U238) is 4.5 billion years!13 Uranium byproducts(such as Thorium (Th232)) have even longer half-lives, making uranium an element that gets more radioactive during its own decay process.5 Natural uranium is 99.274% U238, 0.720% U235, and 0.0055% U234.14a Uranium is enriched when its contents of U235 reaches 3.2-3.6% (since U235 is fissible). Weapon-grade uranium is +90% U235.14a What is depleted uranium? We start out with natural uranium and extract enriched uranium for nuclear fuel and weaponry. The leftover from the extraction process is something very similar to natural uranium, known as “depleted uranium”. The only difference is that DU has 0.202% of U235 and 0.0008% of U234.14a How much DU do we currently have? As of June 1998, we have around 57,800 huge steel cylinders of DU or 496,000 metric tons. 14b Storage of DU is very complicated and problematic since corrosion of DU storage cylinders often occurs over relatively short periods of time.15 Depleted uranium is stored as Uranium Flouride (UF6) in giant cylinders. When the projectile cuts through the armor, the DU penetrator and parts of the tank get so hot that it literally vaporizes. Anywhere from 18-70% of the DU usually oxidizes (depending on type of impact).14c For example, direct impact yields 99% oxidization. A Uranium oxide (which consists of insoluble UO2 and soluble UO3) aerosol forms, where 50-96% of the particles are less than 10 microns and hence can be inhaled easily.2 DU is extremely toxic and still contains much of the radiation that natural uranium has. For example, US Army field manuals indicate that those who handle DU contaminated vehicles or DU injured individuals must wear gas masks and protective radiological suits.14f There are at least 15-17 countries that currently possess DU ammunition (e.g. US, Britain, France, Israel, Egypt, Russia, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.)14c,13 A harmful reaction by Allied veterans to chemical, biological, and radiological effects from the Gulf War culminated into what is known as Gulf War Syndrome (part of the cause is potentially due to DU weaponry). A very recent similar series of events occurred with post-DU use in the Balkans, which lead to “Balkan War Syndrome”. The Gulf War is an older case but was the first time that the US military employed DU weaponry on a large military scale against an enemy. DU rounds have a silver-like luster due to the aluminum coating. An important thing to consider was how much DU was actually dumped onto Iraqi territory. Around 9,640 tanks shells and 850,000 aircraft 30mm rounds were used. 14f This translates to nearly 650,000 pounds of actual DU deposited on Iraqi soil!14f That’s a lot of nuclear waste! (Gulf War #1 not Gulf War #2 which was far higher.) Over 200 vehicles that were hit by friendly fire were analyzed by the US military. 14f Over 29 vehicles were found with abnormally high radioactive levels. 12 vehicles (including 6 Bradleys) were buried in Saudi Arabia due to substantial radioactive levels.14f Numerous soldiers were also rumored to have been affected by DU. British SAS and US special forces, cleanup crews, and a wide variety of other military personnel who were constantly in the presence of DU contaminated sites were analyzed and in many cases shown to have contained abnormally high levels of uranium and radiation poisoning. Many veterans (not just those suffering from friendly fire) continue to have persistent medical problems. During the Gulf War, over 85% of military soldiers have wandered through at least some DU contaminated sites (e.g. destroyed Iraqi vehicles, bunkers, etc.) 14i. Veteran groups estimate that +400,000 Gulf personnel have inhaled some amount of DU dust. In regions heavily hit by DU, studies have shown that numerous civilians have extensive problems with their immune systems, malignant cancers (such as ludicrously high leukemia rates), heart problems, and bizarre abnormal birth defects (such as children born without eyes, ears, tongue, etc.).2


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“When we climbed into vehicles after they’d been hit, no matter what time or day or night it was, you couldn’t see three feet in front of you. You breathed in that dust.”
-Dr. Doug Rokke, Gulf War veteran, US Army clean up crew

"'Depleted' URANIUM is RADIOACTIVE at all times. It decays immediately into GAMMA RAYS, X-RAYS, BETA PARTICLES, AND DEADLY ALPHA PARTICLES. It IGNITES at over 3,000-degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel of a gun, like a magnesium flare. When it hits a target it explodes into radiactive dust. Once you breathe or eat alpha radiation, it's like getting a medical x-ray every minute of your short life. DU is a radioactive heavy metal that binds to DNA. DU half life is 4.5-BILLION years, but it requires 10 half lives to reduce radiation to safe levels. DU is suicide for any soldier that touches it, even before it's fired from a gun. Even M-16 ammo is now radioactive DU."
-Major Doug Rokke, PhD, www.ThePowerHour.com Radio News
www.traprockpeace.org/depleted_uranium.html

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The U.S. Military is in DU Denial

“My name is John Marshall. I was exposed to DU (depleted uranium). I am 100 percent disabled and I am pissed-off. In fact, I was advised by a couple of my counselors not to do this [interview] because I’m so angry with the government—at the VA system, at the way I’m treated and other veterans are treated. It’s very impersonal. They don’t give you any time. They ask us to go fight their wars, do the dirty work and then they can’t take care of you.”

Most people don’t believe the U.S. has been poisoning its own troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, or they’ve heard about uranium “tipped” bombs—like fingernail polish painted on the outside of a shell casing. On the contrary, these are solid uranium core projectiles.

“I got a thank you (letter) from some lieutenant colonel. ‘Thank you for serving our country. We express our deepest gratitude but we believe you were one of these men who were exposed to depleted uranium either through shrapnel or inhalation of dust.’

“I’m 35, I take 17 medications, I’ve had cancer—lymphatic cancer, Hodgkin’s disease—Lennert’s lymphoma was the initial diagnosis—immune system.”

At age 35 John Marshall should be beginning to peak in his career. As a handsome man, married with three children, Marshall exudes energy. He looks strong, earthy, limps a bit on the left, has a thick build with a lean neck and chin. The military was his career. Being exposed to DU has been called a death sentence.

The initial reports were that in the first 24 hours of the ground war 3,000 out of 4,000 just in my brigade were supposed to die. That was scary going into Iraq. It was a Kill and Destroy Mission, kill and destroy everything that was enemy. That’s what we did.

In February 2006 a spike in DU over Britain was made public in the Oct. 12, 1999, Aldermaston Report. And CNN reported the U.S. lung cancer rate jumped six-fold for the first two months of the year. DU dust doesn’t stay put just as radiation hits from Chernobyl bounced around the world on air currents. It is estimated that lung cancer incubates 2 to 5 years after DU inhalation. Four and a-half years ago the Afghan bombing campaign began. Three years ago Iraq War 2 exploded. And if it’s in the air, it’s in the water.

All of us have uranium in our urine because uranium is ubiquitous in the environment. The real DU test costs $1,000. The wars cost more than $1 billion a week.

If DU particles are inhaled, alpha radiation causes cell damage, lymph cancers and lung cancer. Beta radiation attacks the eyes and skin. Chemically, DU acting as a heavy metal affects bone and kidneys. DU has a half life of 4 ½ billion years.

When a DU munition is fired it burns through a target (or a missed target) and self-sharpens as it moves, leaving a trail of contaminated dust, like smoke, in its wake.

About 340 tons of DU munitions were fired during Iraq War 1. In the Balkans, notably Kosovo, approximately 11 tons of DU were delivered. The Christian Science Monitor reports estimates of 75 tons (official U.S. military figure) to 1,000 tons of DU munitions used in Iraq War 2 so far.



There is an “observed higher prevalence of birth defects among infants conceived postwar to Gulf War veterans of both sexes,” reported Araneta, Schlangen, Edmonds, et al, in their study “Prevalence of birth defects among infants of Gulf War veterans in Arkansas, Arizona, California, Georgia, Hawaii, and Iowa,” 1989-1993.

Of the 580,000 Iraq War 1 veterans, 56 percent have applied for disability treatment and benefits.

Iraq is a nuclear war. DU munitions are weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). Yes, there are WMDs in Iraq.

“I’m just tired. I just feel tired of fighting these bastards in the hospital. They don’t believe in prevention. My tumor wasn’t sent to pathology. The government waits. They wait for the veterans to die.

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Fox hires lobbyist to sweeten U.S. views on immigration

Los Angeles Times | December 28, 2005
BY SAM ENRIQUEZ

MEXICO CITY -- President Vicente Fox has rehired the Texas public relations man and GOP political consultant who quietly helped engineer his election victory in 2000. This time, Fox wants Rob Allyn & Co. to put the brakes on growing anti-immigration, anti-Mexican sentiment in the United States.

Last week, the U.S. House approved a bill to add 700 miles of border fencing and make illegal immigration a felony. Fox denounced the measure as shameful. His foreign minister called it stupid and underhanded.

''The contributions of Mexicans in the United States, who are making their best effort, generating lots of wealth, are not known,'' said Rodrigo Iván Cortés Jiménez, an elected deputy in Mexico's lower house and a member of its commission on foreign affairs.

The immigration bill, expected to reach the Senate in February, has no provision for allowing temporary Mexican workers -- a further slap, in Fox's view. He and President Bush agree on the need for a ''guest worker'' program.

Fox cannot seek reelection next year, and his legacy may rest in part on his pledges to secure an agreement with the United States to grant legal status to the millions of Mexicans living and working illegally north of the border.

So the Mexican leader last week turned to the political operative who helped him topple Mexico's longtime ruling party to win the presidency.

Rob Allyn helped George W. Bush defeat Ann Richards for the governorship of Texas in 1994. Three years later, Allyn saw another potential winner in Fox, then governor of Guanajuato state. He agreed to join Fox's presidential campaign, but only in secret.

For three years, Allyn worked clandestinely, helping craft Fox's message of change, as well as his TV commercials, his polling and his wardrobe. Allyn made dozens of trips to Mexico, traveling under one of three pseudonyms.

Fox, of the National Action Party, came from behind to defeat Francisco Labastida of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, which had ruled Mexico for seven decades. During Mexico's official campaign season in the first six months of 2000, Allyn worked with Penn, Schoen & Berland, a polling and political consulting firm. They operated Democracy Watch, a nonpartisan group hired by Mexicans to conduct national exit polls as a hedge against election fraud.

After the July election, Allyn told the Dallas Morning News he hid his work for Fox because he didn't want to be a political liability. Mexicans are sensitive to foreign interference, especially involving the United States.

Allyn, who also worked on the Bush presidential campaigns, now faces a bigger challenge with the migration issue.

Demands to stem illegal immigration are growing louder in the United States as Mexican and Central American workers spread across the country.

''Our focus is on public opinion, which influences policy outcomes in Congress,'' said Allyn, 46, who grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif., and moved to Texas when he was in high school. ``There is a huge misperception among the U.S. public about Mexico.''

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said Allyn's message should be that Mexicans have sunk roots deep in their U.S. neighborhoods and that they contribute more through their work, taxes and families than they take away in public services.

www.sunherald.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/americas/13472193.htm?tem
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Who'd Vicente Fox Hire to Stop Us From Building Our Border Fence?

Why, George Bush's Old PR Hack, of course!

Unabashedly Unhyphenated | December 20, 2006

Predictably, Vicente Fox's kleptocratic regime is apoplectic over the thought of the United States actually excercising its sovereignty. So, what did he run out and do right after unleashing an initial demand that we continue our de facto illegal merger with his third-world dump of a nation? Why, he went and hired an American PR firm. Not just any firm. Presidente Jorge W. Bush's old Political PR firm.

Hmm. I wonder if this is just a coincidence. Or is it likely that our own president is coaching for the other team on this issue? If Bush is trying to help design an end run play on the actual will of the majority of Americans, then I've lost the last bit of respect that I had for this man. And to think that this morning I was all set to write a strong defense of his actions regarding the surveillance of international communications. He's right in doing that. But if he truly cares about our security, he needs to pay attention to the myriad fears and concerns that his statements, positions and policies on immigration are creating for many Americans. Instead, he seems far more concerned about people whom he does not represent: illegal aliens, most of them subjects of his good buddy Vic Fox.

Why is it that he appears to remain so inept at "surveilling" the strong desires of his citizens regarding immigration? If it springs from some paternal "I know what's best for you" instinct, I'm really glad I didn't vote for him the second time around. On my worst day, most of my instincts are better than any of his on his best day.

www.americankernel.com/2005/12/whod-vicente-fox-hire-to-stop-us-from.h
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Hachita, N.M. -- The Associated Press has confirmed that the armored vehicles first reported on the border in New Mexico by American Border Patrol, are from The Stryker Brigade Combat Team at Fort Lewis, Washington. On Friday, ABP's Border Hawk M returned to New Mexico to document the presence of the US Army's presence using its daylight cameras. "While these are baby steps in the journey toward securing our borders, the presence of the Stryker Brigade on the Border in New Mexico is creating a wave of hope across America," said Glenn Spencer of American Patrol.
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Can't be sure but that looks like the projectile from a railgun, that thing falling away would be the armature. It connects the two rails which both hold a lot of current.

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Is The Pentagon Giving Our Soldiers Cancer? (large photos of DU weapons and injuries)
Rolling Stone; October 2, 2003
U.S. military might relies on depleted uranium, which incinerates tanks on impact. But soldiers and civilians alike say the radioactive ammo is making them sick. DU burns at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C). Depleted uranium is the heaviest of metals, which results in its superior penetrating abilities; it is also highly pyrophoric, bursting into flames at temperatures of 170 degrees Celsius. To imagine the carnage, one need only recall Iraq's infamous "Highway of Death", a desert road between Basra and Kuwait's border that remains strewn with radioactive trucks, cars, and tanks. U.S. soldiers found bodies inside those vehicles that were burned in such astonishing ways that they dubbed the remains "crispy critters".
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LUNG CANCER EPIDEMIC FROM DU HAS BEGUN IN U.S.

By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
April 6, 2006
NewsWithViews.com

In the year 2005 there were 175,000 new cases of lung cancer in the United States. The months of January and February of 2006 have already yielded 172,000 new cases of lung cancer in our nation. What has lead to this shocking new development?

Second hand smoke exposure and cigarette smoking obviously can not explain this dramatic rise in lung cancer. Following exposure to radioactive iodine particulate debris in the air from shells and bombs, between 2 to 5 years of time is needed to lead to the appearance of malignancies. Our bombing of Afghanistan began in October 2001 (four and a half years ago) and the new bombing in Iraq began in March 2003 (exactly three years ago). Aerial bombs are more effective than artillery shells in increasing airborne radioiodine because they release more dust into the atmosphere. The radioactive iodine increment from these bombings was registered in the UK in the Aldermaston Report[1] released on Feb. 19, 2006.

The U.S. government has not released any information about the levels of radioactivity being observed in the U.S. and the controlled media in Europe and the U.S. has said nothing about the 4 genocidal nuclear wars the United States and it’s British ally have foisted off on the populace of the world. (Bosnia, Iraq twice and Afghanistan). The DU wars surely reflect the population lowering program for the world being implemented by the New World Order elitists (Tilateral Commisson., Bilderbergers, Club of Rome, 33 rd degree Masons, Illuminati, Council of Foreign Relations.)

Breathing radioactive particlulate matter has long been known to cause lung cancer. Miners working in uranium mines and other types of mining where radioactivity is an occupational hazard have a higher incidence of lung cancer. This danger from airborne radioactive iodine is greater than that found from cigarette smoking. The radioactive iodine particles go directly to DNA which is “trashed”. There are no ways the human body can rid itself of the radioactive particles so the health damage is permanent. This results in severe health problems particularly malignancies which have no effective therapies. Physicians in Bosnia are seeing patients present for care with three simultaneous malignancies something never previously reported in medicine.

Children in Iraq are dying in epidemic numbers from malignancies. In most nations cancer in children is uncommon. This makes depleted uranium shells and bombs an ideal vehicle to diminish the world population. The absence of media exposure critical of this genocidal program makes DU warfare a low risk program for lowering world population. One of the attractive features of using radioactive uranium for biologic warfare and population lowering is that there are no known effective ways to heal an individual who develops a malignancy after radioiodine iodine exposure.

A frightening aspect of depleted uranium warfare is that there is no way to protect oneself from this hazard. Clothing and gas masks are easily penetrated. The key persons running the New World Order are brilliant planners. They would not want themselves to die from lung cancer along with the rest of humanity. My guess is they have discovered methods to protect themselves from developing lung cancer. Certainly one has to be impressed with how effectively David Rockefeller, Zignev Brezinski and Henry Kissinger appear to have managed to avoid the infirmities of aging at least to outward appearances.

I do not know if persons living in the Southern hemisphere are also being exposed to radioiodine fallout. Recently Christopher Reeves wife, Dana, died of lung cancer at age 44. She was a healthy non smoker so her death appeared puzzling. The DU fallout may provide a rational explanation.

Because prevailing winds have carried radioiodine dust to Europe and probably the U.S. it appears that at least half the persons on planet earth are currently breathing radioiodine. The topic of depleted uranium bombs and shells will not be discussed in the media because the world’s media is controlled by the New World Order elitists. World wide public outrage could ruin their plans to rapidly lower the world’s population by 90 % if this issue was publicly discussed.

When a biologic warfare agent like the borrelia burgdorfi spirochete (Lyme Disease) turns out to spread person to person it becomes a gigantic success. We all must breath to stay alive. With at least half the persons on earth now breathing radioactive iodine the bio-warfare scientists appear to have their second big winner. Expect lung cancer deaths to rapidly increase worldwide.

Footnotes:
1, CNN American Morning program March 8, 2006 Miles and Soledad O'Brien

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"In the event that I am reincarnated I would like to return as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
—His Royal Highness Prince Philip (King of USA via NAFTA merger of USA, Canada and Mexico), husband of German Queen Elizabeth Sax CoBurg Gotha of England, father-in-law who murdered Princess Diana, from autobiography, "Down to Earth: Speeches and Writings of His Royal Highness Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, on the Relationship of Man With His Environment", in chapter titled, "His Royal Virus"
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http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/steve_bell/2001/08
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Moratorium sought on DU shell testing
www.guardian.co.uk/uranium/story/0,7369,440704,00.html

21.02.2001: Campaigners have demanded a moratorium on the testing of depleted uranium shells after the Ministry of Defence resumed test-firing at a military base in Scotland yesterday.
Special report: Depleted uranium
www.guardian.co.uk/uranium/0,7368,419839,00.html

www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,538515,00.html

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
It's a sabotted round. It's fired from a conventional gun whick is why the outer sections, the Sabbot, are burning. After the round is fired they fall away and the internal fletchete core continues the the target.

Not a good pic for PN to use because the Sabbot itself wouldnt be DU and the core DU Fletchete would not be in contact with the explosive.

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[BRadioactive DU munitions burn at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C)

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Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel". Have you ever fired a gun? I have. I have fired pistols, rifles, assault rifles, and battle rifles, and the ammunition sure as hell never got that hot then. Heat doesn't come from nowhere. The heat of a bullet comes from the ignition of the powder charge, and you can't tell me that gunpowder gets that hot.

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It's a sabotted round. It's fired from a conventional gun whick is why the outer sections, the Sabbot, are burning. After the round is fired they fall away and the internal fletchete core continues the the target.

Not a good pic for PN to use because the Sabbot itself wouldnt be DU and the core DU Fletchete would not be in contact with the explosive.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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Lead didn't take 45 billion years to come about, fool! the Earth is, at most 5 billion years old (The entire Universe is only 15 billion years old), so, by your imaginary DU deterioration timescale, DU is older than the universe itself. Do you ever get tired of contradicting yourself?

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Experimentally, we find that spontaneous fission reactions occur for only the very heaviest nuclides those with mass numbers of 230 or more. Even when they do occur, these reactions are often very slow. The half-life for the spontaneous fission of 238U, for example, is 10-16 years (10,000,000,000,000,000 years), or about two million times longer than the age of our planet! It is the reprocessing of 239Pu that concerns most of the critics of breeder reactors. 239Pu is so dangerous as a carcinogen that the nuclear industry places a limit on exposure to this material that assumes workers inhale no more than 0.2 micrograms of plutonium over their lifetimes. In 1972, a group of French scientists discovered that uranium ore from a deposit in the Oklo mine in Gabon, West Africa, contained 0.4% 235U instead of the 0.72% abundance found in all other sources of this ore. Analysis of the trace elements in the ore suggested that the amount of 235U in this ore was unusually small because natural fission reactors operated in this deposit for a period of 600,000 to 800,000 years about 2 billion years ago. The d-t reaction has an ignition temperature above 10-8 degrees Kelvin (180-million degrees F). In a hydrogen bomb, a fission reaction produced by a small atomic bomb is used to heat the contents to the temperature required to initiate fusion.
http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch23/fission.php

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P.S. Learn to spell!!! It's Mafia, not Mafiya!

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Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel". Have you ever fired a gun? I have. I have fired pistols, rifles, assault rifles, and battle rifles, and the ammunition sure as hell never got that hot then. Heat doesn't come from nowhere. The heat of a bullet comes from the ignition of the powder charge, and you can't tell me that gunpowder gets that hot.

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Outland Sales and Service has been producing .22 caliber rim-fire tracers ammunition since 1998, and we have recently expanded our tracer product lines to include 9MM and 12 gauge shotgun. We have also added some popular military caliber tracers such as .223, 7.62x39, .308, and 50 BMG in limited quantities.
www.outlandsales.com

Tracers are special bullets that are white phosphorus-tipped or contain a powder in their base that burns very brightly during their flight. This enables the shooter to follow the bullets' trajectories. The shooter then, typically, "walks" his cone of fire onto the target by seeing where the tracer is going. A tracer projectile is constructed with a hollow base filled with a pyrotechnic flare material. In US and NATO standard ammunition this is usually a mixture of strontium salts and a metal fuel such as magnesium perchlorate. This yields a bright red light. Due to their pyrotechnic payload all tracers are incendiary in nature; although incendiary tracer bullets, some incorporating white phosphorus, are more effective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition

Pure phosphorus ignites spontaneously in air and burns to produce phosphorus pentoxide. White phosphorus is used in military applications as incendiary bombs, for smoke-screening as smoke pots and smoke bombs, and in tracer ammunition. Phosphorus is a key element in all known forms of life. When red phosphorus was discovered, with its far lower flammability and toxicity, it was adopted as a safer alternative for match manufacture. Phosphorus (Greek phosphoros, meaning "light bearer" which was the ancient name for the planet Venus, translated as Lucifer in Latin) was discovered by German alchemist Hennig Brand in 1669 through a preparation from urine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus

In 1669 the Hamburg merchant and alchemist Hennig Brandt heated the residue from evaporating urine with powdered charcoal, and condensed the vapor that was evolved into a waxy solid. This solid glowed in the dark, without heat, an astonishing phenomenon. He called the mysterious substance phosphorus, taken directly from the Greek phosphoros, "light-bringer." This was also the name of the planet Venus as morning star, "Lucifer" in Latin. The discovery created quite a stir, and soon nobody was throwing away urine. Travelling alchemists amazed royal audiences, and it was the talk of the time. A normal person excretes about a gram of phosphorus daily. Canisters of calcium phosphide are used as signals at sea. When pierced and thrown into the water, they make volumes of smoke, and cannot be extinguished.
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activation energy

In chemistry, the minimum energy required in order to start a chemical reaction. Some elements and compounds will react together merely by bringing them into contact (spontaneous reaction). For others it is necessary to supply energy (heat, radiation, or electrical charge) in order to start the reaction, even if there is ultimately a net output of energy. This initial energy is the activation energy. The point at which the reaction begins is known as the energy barrier. When the energy barrier is reached, the chemical bonds in the reactants are broken, enabling them to proceed from reactants to products. In some reactions, such as the combustion of fuels, the activation energy required for the chemical reaction to take place is very small, resulting in a rapid reaction. Other chemical reactions, such as the rusting of iron (a type of oxidation) have a very large energy barrier and take place slowly.
www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0026528.html


gunpowder

Oldest known explosive, a mixture of 75% potassium nitrate (saltpetre), 15% charcoal, and 10% sulphur. Sulphur ignites at a low temperature, charcoal burns readily, and the potassium nitrate provides oxygen for the explosion. As gunpowder produces lots of smoke and burns quite slowly, it has progressively been replaced since the late 19th century by high explosives, although it is still widely used for quarry blasting, fuses, and fireworks. Gunpowder has high activation energy; a gun based on gunpowder alone requires igniting by a flint or a match. It was probably first invented in China, where it was chiefly used for fireworks. It is possible that knowledge of it was transmitted from the Middle East to Europe. The writings of the English monk Roger Bacon show that he was experimenting with gunpowder in 1249. His mixture contained saltpetre, charcoal, and sulphur. The development of effective gunpowder was essential for the growing significance of cannons and handguns in the late medieval period. The Arabs produced the first known working gun, in 1304.
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Gunpowder goes off at 300 degrees centigrade (570 degrees F), which can easily be generated by friction. Some experimentation demonstrated that a fine powder was less effective than a relatively coarse one, due to the fact that coarse powder permits more free oxygen to be present when the charge is tamped in place, thereby enhancing the burning of the powder at its optimal temperature, some 2,000 degrees centigrade (3,600 degrees F).
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"Depleted uranium is an emitter of alpha radiation, but beta emissions and photons (x-rays and gamma rays) also are produced. Beta particles can travel about a centimetre into the body. Photons (x-rays and gamma rays) are more penetrating and can pass straight through the body. Depleted uranium external to the body is a source of gamma and beta radiation."


120mm DU shell
www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dhs/infocentre/publications/journals/NoIDs/adfh
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Gunpowder burns at over 3,000 degrees F. Are you claiming that is not "hot"? Have you never fired a gun at night, where the fire exiting the barrel can blind you? That's why military rifles, used for hunting people, use "flash-suppressors", to prevent night-blindness, and prevent the enemy seeing their location in the dark.

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Lead is decayed natural uranium, NOT from decayed Enriched Uranium, which is manmade inside nuclear reactors, which duplicate the temperature of stars (over 3 million degrees F), forging new heavier elements such as super-radioactive isotopes of uranium. Natural uranium was manufactured inside a star, which then exploded in supernova, perhaps 10-billion years ago, according to current guestimates by nuclear physicists and astronomers.

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4.5-billion years is the official half-life of "Depleted" (Enriched) Uranium. Since half of the original radiation is still deadly radiation, it requires 10 half-lives to reach a "safe" level. Duh. How come you can't figure out how to look it up for yourself? Have you never heard of search engines?

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4.5-billion years is the official half-life of "Depleted" (Enriched) Uranium. Since half of the original radiation is still deadly radiation, it requires 10 half-lives to reach a "safe" level. Duh. How come you can't figure out how to look it up for yourself? Have you never heard of search engines?

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Lets get some real numbers out there now shall we.

U-238 has a half life of 4.5 Billion Years.

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Pressure Corrected Boiling Temperature Of Water Calculator
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Nuclear reactors cannot get that hot! If they could, we wouldn't still be struggling to create a viable means of harnessing fusion energy. If it were that temperature, the water used as coolant would vaporize instantly, and the reactor walls would suffer an immediate, catastrophic meltdown.

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I have fired a gun at night, without a flash supressor or protective eyeware.
It does not blind you. Plus, if gunpowder burns at 3000 degrees, why don't the action and the barrel melt after a single shot?


www.1stcavmedic.com/glossary-files/ac-47-puff.htm
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How do you explain tracer bullets, painted with magnesium metal powder, that self-ignites in oxygen, 10-feet after leaving the barrel of a gun? Tracer bullets and magnesium flares self-ignite at ROOM-TEMPERATURE, without primer and without sparks.

The magnesium and phosphorus they use are completely different chemicals. Different chemicals have different properties. To oxidize (burn), all chemicals MUST have energy to start the reaction. Because of their atomic makeup, some require minimal energy to ignite, while some(like, say, diamond) need unbelieveably massive amounts of activation energy.

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MELTDOWN AT THREE MILE ISLAND NUKE PLANT

In the predawn hours of March 28, 1979, a pressure valve suddenly malfunctioned at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. The accident started at the plant's Unit 2 reactor when a small valve failed to close, causing cooling water to drain from the nuclear core. The core quickly began to overheat. Confronted by baffling and contradictory information, plant operators shut off the emergency water system that would have cooled the core. Within minutes, the mammoth control console was "lit up like a Christmas tree," one operator recalls. Hundreds of flashing lights were accompanied by piercing horns and sirens. By early morning Wednesday, March 28, the exposed part of the core was beginning to cook as temperatures in the reactor reached 4,300 degrees Fahrenheit--dangerously close to meltdown. But when contaminated water leaked into an adjoining building and started to release radioactive gases inside the plant, Three Mile Island's supervisor declared the first general emergency ever to arise at a nuclear power plant in the United States. Frightened residents didn't know whom to believe either. Just days earlier, Hollywood had released The China Syndrome, a film about a potential meltdown at a nuclear power plant. In it, an area the size of Pennsylvania is threatened with annihilation. For residents, life was now imitating art. "My sister called from LA," remembers Robin Stuart, "saying `Get out, hurry up and get out.'" More than 500,000 people now faced a decision: pack up and evacuate the area. Three years after the accident, a robotic camera was lowered into the Unit 2 core, providing the first look at what really had happened. Roger Mattson, a senior NRC engineer, describes what was revealed: "We had a meltdown at Three Mile Island. Fifty percent of the core was destroyed or molten and something on the order of twenty tons of uranium found its way to the bottom head of the pressure vessel. That's a core meltdown. No question about it."
www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/three/filmmore/description.html

The Chernobyl accident occurred on April 26, 1986 at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Pripyat, Ukraine (then part of the Soviet Union). It is regarded as the worst accident in the history of nuclear power. Because there was no containment building, a plume of radioactive fallout drifted over parts of the western Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, UK, and the eastern United States. Large areas of Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia were badly contaminated, resulting in the evacuation and resettlement of roughly 200,000 people. An April 2006 report by the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW) (who were awarded the 1986 Nobel peace prize), which counted tens of thousands dead among the liquidators. On Saturday, April 26, 1986, at 1:23:58 a.m. local time, the unit 4 reactor of the Chernobyl power plant—known as Chernobyl-4—suffered a catastrophic steam explosion that resulted in a fire, a series of additional explosions, and a nuclear meltdown. According to a Government Commission report published in August 1986, operators removed at least 204 control rods from the reactor core (out of a total of 211 for this reactor model), leaving seven. The same guidelines (noted above) prohibit operation of the RBMK-1000 with fewer than 15 rods inside the core zone. The rods became stuck after being inserted only one-third of the way, and were therefore unable to stop the reaction. By 1:23:47 the reactor jumped to around 30 GW, ten times the normal operational output. The fuel rods began to melt and the steam pressure rapidly increased causing a large steam explosion, displacing and destroying the reactor lid, rupturing the coolant tubes and then blowing a hole in the roof. After part of the roof blew off, the inrush of oxygen—combined with the extremely high temperature of the reactor fuel and graphite moderator—sparked a graphite fire. This fire greatly contributed to the spread of radioactive material and the ultimate contamination of outlying areas. a weak seismic event, similar to a magnitude-2.5 earthquake, was registered at 1:23:39 in the Chernobyl area. The situation is complicated by the fact that the "SCRAM" button was pressed more than once, and the person who actually pressed it died two weeks after the accident from radiation poisoning. Radiation levels were up to 20,000 roentgen per hour in some areas; lethal dose is around 100 roentgen per hour. The water that had hurriedly been pumped into the reactor building in a futile attempt to extinguish the fire had run down underneath the reactor floor to the space underneath. The problem presented by this was the fact that the smouldering fuel and other material on the reactor floor was starting to burn its way through this floor, and was being made worse by materials being dropped from helicopters, which simply acted as a furnace to increase the temperatures further. If this material came into contact with the water, it would have generated a thermal explosion which would have arguably been worse than the initial reactor explosion itself, and would have, by many estimates, rendered land in a radius of hundreds of miles from the plant uninhabitable for at least one hundred years. Chernobyl Unit 4 reactor contained about 180-190 metric tons of uranium dioxide fuel. Estimates of the amount of this material that escaped: 30 percent. Greenpeace Russia considers that 67,000 people died in Russia because of Chernobyl's consequences. About 95% of the fuel (about 180 tonnes) in the reactor at the time of the accident remains inside the shelter, with a total radioactivity of nearly 18 million curies (670 PBq). The radioactive material consists of core fragments, dust, and lava-like "fuel-containing materials" (FCM) that flowed through the wrecked reactor building before hardening into a ceramic form. The sarcophagus was never designed to last for the 100,000 years needed to contain the radioactivity found within the remains of reactor unit 4. While present designs for a new shelter anticipate a lifetime of up to 100 years, that time is minuscule compared to the lifetime of the radioactive materials within the reactor.

The external gamma dose for a person in the open near the Chernobyl site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_accident

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Gasoline has an ignition temperature of 495° F (232° C), in uncompressed air. Ignition temperature is the minimum temperature at which a material will burn or explode. It is the temperature at which a mixture of flammable vapor and air would ignite without a spark or flame. There is no direct correlation between explosive properties and ignition temperature. Therefore, materials can have the same physical properties and similar explosive properties while having ignition temperatures that vary greatly. The ignition temperature is affected by the chemical properties of the flammable liquid. When a flammable liquid is in its liquid state, it will not ignite. It will only burn when in its gaseous state. In addition to ignition temperature, other properties associated with the flammability of a liquid are its flash point, flammable range, and vapor density. The flash point is the temperature at which a flammable liquid vaporizes and is therefore able to ignite. Liquids with a flash point under 40 °C are considered combustible liquids. Gasoline has a flash point of about -45 °C. The flammable range of a liquid is the ratio of the flammable liquid to air that would create a volatile mixture. The flammability range of gasoline is between 1.4 and 7.6%. If the ratio of gasoline to air is less than 1.4%, then the mixture is to thin to burn. The mixture cannot burn when it contains more than 7.6% gasoline because it is too rich to burn.The vapor density is the weight of a vapor relative to the weight of air. The vapor density of gasoline is heavier than air and therefore will sink when in air.
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Methanol 1870 deg C (3398 deg F)
Ethanol 1920 deg C (3488 deg F)
Gasoline 2030 deg C (3686 deg F)
propane 1925 deg C (3497 deg F)
diesel 2700 deg K (4400 deg F)
Acetylene 2400 deg C (4352 deg F)
Acetylene + oxygen: 3140 deg C (5684 deg F)

www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part4/preamble.html
www.windsorworkshop.ca/downloads/akinyemi.pdf
www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm

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The nation's 15-year-olds make a poor showing on a newly released international test of practical math applications, ranking 24th out of 29 industrialized nations, behind South Korea, Japan and most of Europe. U.S. students' scores were comparable to those in Poland, Hungary and Spain. Results of the test, known as the Program for International Student Assessment, were released Monday by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group of industrialized nations. U.S. Secretary of Education Rod Paige called the results "a blinking warning light".

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Scores by country

Finland 544
S. Korea 542
Netherlands 538
Japan 534
Canada 532
Belgium 529
Switzerland 527
Australia 524
New Zealand 523
Czech Republic 516
Iceland 515
Denmark 514
France 511
Sweden 509
Austria 506
Germany 503
Ireland 503
Slovak Republic 498
Norway 495
Luxembourg 493
Poland 490
Hungary 490
Spain 485
United States 483
Portugal 466
Italy 466
Greece 445
Turkey 423
Mexico 385

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Nuke reactors "meltdown" if not throttled-down by graphite rods, and cooled by millions of gallons of water, with the water cooled in giant cooling towers.

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All gunpowder burns above 3,000 deg F. The reason they burn hotter than fire is due to oxygen in the gunpowder mix, via potassium nitrATE (ATE = oxygen), which acts like compressed oxygen in an oxyacetaline welding/cutting torch. Gun barrels are air-cooled, like nuke reactors. Some guns have added cooling fins, especially machine guns Machine guns are often water-cooled, since World War 1. All gun barrels overheat and warp if not allowed to cool between shots. Standard machine guns require barrels to be replaced on a fixed schedule.

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Families celebrate Fathers Day at machine gun shoot-out

KRNV-TV

Everyone has their own way to celebrate Father's Day, but some families went out of their way to break tradition.

Close to 2,000 people made their way to the Mustang gun range to show their love by firing automatic weapons.

Under Nevada's open gun laws, it is legal to shoot machine guns. And fathers, sons, and shooting enthusiasts in general, had an opportunity to shoot fully automatic weapons like AK-47s, M-60's, and Uzi's.

While it may not be a traditional Fathers Day event, for Matt and Andy Polehman it was all about being together on this special day. "My dad and I have this saying, it doesn't matter what we do as long as we do it together."

If you missed Sunday's shoot, don't worry, the range will host another one this October.

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Illegal Aliens Force Marine Training Range To Shut Down 500 Times Since July 2004

Virtually every Marine squadron headed to Iraq or Afghanistan receives combat training at the Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma, which for nearly 40 miles touches the US-Mexico border in the southwestern corner of Arizona. The Border Patrol's focus in recent years on tightening the border in the eastern part of the state, where volunteer citizens this month have established their own observation posts, has pushed more undocumented immigrants westward.

Since July 2004, the training range has been shut down more than 500 times because of immigrants spotted on the range, causing a loss of more than 1,100 training hours, said Colonel James J. Cooney, the base's commanding officer.

"That's equivalent to almost 46 days of training. We're getting overrun here," he said in an interview. "Any moment we take away from a Marine's experience base could cost him his life in combat."

Cooney said Marines intercepted more than 1,500 undocumented immigrants on the training range last year and, in the first three months of this year, more than 1,100. Base personnel detain the immigrants and call in Border Patrol agents to pick them up.

Another big concern, he said, is the potential danger to undocumented immigrants: "We just don't want them to come here, because we're firing lasers, we're shooting machine guns, we're shooting 209-millimeter cannons, and we're dropping practice bombs, and we don't want to hurt anyone [Why not? - Digger]."

Last summer a Marine pilot dropped a practice bomb on a target and seconds later, a few feet away, a small group of illegal immigrants scrambled from underneath a bush and ran down the range. The near miss was caught on a training tape that Cooney has reviewed.

There is some concern that, besides wandering immigrants, foreign terrorists could cross the Mexican border and infiltrate the Arizona bases to conduct intelligence gathering or commit acts of sabotage. (That's the purpose of CIA/Pentagon's Operation NORTHWOODS, for Pentagon to hire enemy soldiers to attack US military bases.)

"The potential exists, and that is a key reason we are vigilant about securing our training ranges," Cooney said.

Gotta love our border policy.

www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000955.html

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
That private Tank is an M3 / M5 Stuart, 60 years old and about as usefull in a fight as a sausage sandwich.
It's also being driven by Jews.
Apart from the man on the left who is waving a Commie Red flag.
The little girl is also a Jew.
All the people manning those machine guns are Jews.
The machine guns are actually pointed at Tennesee.

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Hundreds nabbed in immigration raid

Executives, workers arrested in nationwide move against pallet maker

MSNBC-GE
April 19, 2006

WASHINGTON - Immigration agents arrested seven executives and hundreds of employees of a manufacturer of crates and pallets Wednesday as part of a crackdown on employers of illegal workers.

Authorities raided offices and plants of IFCO Systems in at least eight states, the culmination of a yearlong criminal investigation, law enforcement officials said.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrested seven current and former IFCO Systems managers on charges they conspired to transport, harbor and encourage illegal workers to reside in the United States for commercial advantage and private financial gain, said Glenn T. Suddaby, the chief federal prosecutor in Albany, N.Y., where some arrests were made.

ICE spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback confirmed an unspecified number of raids and arrests but declined to provide additional details because the investigation was continuing. One official, speaking on condition of anonymity because numbers were still being tallied, said the arrests were in the hundreds.

Raids across the U.S.

Raids took place at several locations in upstate New York and in Biglerville, Pa.; Charlotte, N.C.; Cincinnati, Houston, Phoenix, Richmond, Va., and Westborough, Mass.

"ICE has no tolerance for corporate officers who harbor illegal aliens for their work force. Today's nationwide enforcement actions show how we will use all our investigative tools to bring these individuals to justice, no matter how large or small their company," said ICE chief Julie Myers.

She and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff are expected on Thursday to lay out an immigration enforcement strategy that targets employers' disregard for immigration law.

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Separated at birth in Communist Czechoslavakia
Michael Chertoff is a current citizen of Israel
He hired ex-Communist KGB General Primkov at
$2-million/year to run US Dept of Homeland Security
www.weholdthesetruths.org

Israel has 1,000s of terrorist bombers in USA today according to Fox News, owned by Jewish Australian Sir Rupert Murdoch Knight of the British Empire and his Communist Chinese wife
www.september911surprise.com

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Last week, operators of three restaurants in Baltimore pleaded guilty to similar immigration charges, while nine people affiliated with two temporary employment agencies that do business in New Jersey, Ohio and Pennsylvania were charged in a $5.3 million scheme involving the employment and harboring of illegal aliens.

Several immigration proposals pending in Congress would stiffen penalties against employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Company based in Germany

German-based IFCO Systems describes itself as the leading pallet services company in the United States, focusing on recycling millions of the wooden platforms used to stack and move all manner of goods. It operates about five dozen facilities nationwide and has been expanding steadily, according to the company's Web site.

IFCO Systems did not immediately return calls seeking comment Wednesday.

The current and former IFCO Systems managers arrested were identified by Suddaby as: Michael Ames, 44, Shrewsbury, Mass.; Robert Belvin, 43, Clifton Park, N.Y.; Abelino Chicas, 40, Houston; Scott Dodge, 43, Albany; William Hoskins, 29, Cincinnati; James Rice, 36, Houston, and Dario Salzano, 36, Amsterdam, N.Y.

Last year, Wal-Mart stores agreed to pay $11 million to settle allegations concerning the employment and mistreatment of illegal immigrants.

Wal-Mart has maintained that top executives did not know that cleaning contractors were hiring illegal immigrants, who sometimes slept in the backs of stores. An ICE affidavit unsealed as part of that case, however, asserted that two executives were aware of the practice.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12393925/

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ILLEGALS RAIDS EXPOSE LINKS TO CARLYLE GROUP

April 21, 2006

The news today stated that the illustrious Department of Homeland Security launched raids all over the country that arrested 100s of undocumented migrants working for IFCO Systems, a Dutch/German Company that makes pallets and plastic containers for shipping and transportation purposes.

The raids had an undoubtedly unexpected side effect. IFCO is very close to the Texas Republican political establishment. Neo-Confederate Governor Perry appointed a IFCO executive to the Workmens Compensation to be the "EMPLOYER COMMISSIONER" for the Workman's Compensation Commission on March 10, 2003. The new Commissioner's term will expire February 1, 2009.

Michael Hachtman of Houston , one of the cities targeted in the raids, is the Vice President of all things Business Development for IFCO Systems North America Inc.

It is the largest pallet company in the United States. He is also the former chief of staff at the Texas Railroad Commission. He was confirmed by the Republican dominated Texas Senate.

Maybe this explains why the current administration NEVER targets employers of illegal aliens until now, when they have been forced to by political pressure from the Democrats and now on the first time up to bat they stepped on their own Johnson. Such is life....

In 2003 87% of IFCO's stock was purchased by APAX Partners, another of those mushrooming "private equity firms". www.palletenterprise.com/articledatabase/view.asp?articleID=1144 .

APAX partners is run by a SIR Ronald Cohen Knight of the British Empire until mid-2005. The other leader in the firm is french and an advisor to the International Finance Corporation, the "commercial arm of the World Bank" now run by Paul Wolfowitz.

The Frenchman, Mr. Patricof is also a member of the United Nations Development Program and of course a member of the Council on Foreign Relations CFR.
www.apax.com/en/aboutus/history.html .

The UNDP program in which Mr. Patricof participated in was headed by former Canadian prime minister Paul Martin and more importantly former Mexican President Zedillo who believes that the border of Mexico in reality extends far into the United States. www.undp.org/dpa/pressrelease/releases/2003/july/25jul03.html .

"THE MEXICAN NATION EXTENDS BEYOND THE TERRITORY ENCLOSED BY ITS BORDER AND THAT MEXICAN MIGRANTS ARE AN IMPORTANT - A VERY IMPORTANT - PART OF IT."
www.diversityalliance.org/docs/article_2006feb09.html

Please Google or Dogpile - Apax Partners Carlyle Group - See how many interconnections exist? Now, Esteemed Reader, you know why employers are untouched.

It will be interesting to see how the Skull and Bones krewe spin-doctor their way out of this hole.
www.carlyle.com/eng/team/l5-team2172.html and www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Carlyle_Group -
www.webprowire.com/summaries/81193.html .

APAX knows the game, Mr. Patricof also helps "bundle" for Skull and Bones Presidential candidate John Kerry. The Dems are using the employer issue, but he, a loyal bonesman, has been as silent as the grave on the issue.
www.whitehouseforsale.org/demfundraising/bundler_search.cfm .

Republicans, Democrats, Mexicans, Texans, Canadians, French, CFR, the World Bank, The UN, and even a "Sir" - this is diversity and multiculturalism New World Order style....

One series of raids exposes a lot of big fat roaches under those wooden pallets.

Cordially, PH Craftlove New World Order Education Project

www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=134676




ILLEGAL HIRING FIRM OWNED BY CLIENT OF DHS SEC CHERTOFF

By Peter Herberg

The news media is replete with stories about Immigration authorities raiding IFCO Systems facilities all over the United States and arresting hundreds of undocumented workers alleged to be in the country illegally. See: www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/20/immigration.raids/index.html .

IFCO Systems had most of its shares purchased several years ago by a private equity firm named Apax Partners. See: www.palletenterprise.com/articledatabase/view.asp?articleID=1144 and www.apax.de/en/investments/ifco-systems-nv.html .

The honorable and of course illustrious Secretary of Homeland Security is Michael Chertoff. He was a partner in the mega-law firm of Latham and Watkins. See:
www.lw.com and www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=4353 .


Separated at birth in Communist Czechoslavakia
Michael Chertoff is a current citizen of Israel
He hired ex-Communist KGB General Primkov at
$2-million/year to run US Dept of Homeland Security
www.weholdthesetruths.org

Latham and Watkins has a unit that specializes in representing EMPLOYERS. www.lw.com/practice/practice_areaSpecific.asp?practice_id=43 . They do this not just in the USA but Internationally, including the EU where IFCO Systems is based.

APAX PARTNERS - cited above as owning 87% of IFCO Systems stock - is a client of Latham and Watkins. www.lw.com/attorney/attorneysearch_profile.asp?attno=01748 or GOOGLE Apax Partners Latham Watkins for many other articles involving cooperation between both entities.

The Previous cited link also notes that Latham and Watkins also represents the Sinister Carlyle Group. (see previous link).

The Carlyle Group of course has as its Honorary CEO former President George H W Bush, the father of our current "leader" Dubya Bush, the failed law school applicant that now appoints who will be on our Supreme Court.
www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html .

APAX also has many links with the Carlyle Group , including at times mutual personnel. www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/team/l5-team2172.html or Google - Apax Partners Carlyle Group.

As an additional note - The Skull and Bones Society is alleged to have members in the Department of Homeland Security.Present members include of course, the current President and his father. www.oilempire.us/skullbones.html and www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Number=426489 .

CONCLUSION - DHS SECRETARY HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR THE APPEARANCE OF ONE AND HE MUST RESIGN FROM OFFICE.

Sincerely, PH Craftlove New World Order Education Project

Source;
www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=134677

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... and we're sacrificing Virgins to Bolech's later.

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There is a plan by the banking cartel, ie the Fed, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, Rothchilds, etc., to turn the good ole U.S. of A in to a third world country.

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Hey englanddry, what too come over to mine, we're having a BBQ in the Afternoon and we're sacrificing Virgins to Bolech's later.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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CITIZEN

Got to pass on that one, I'm busy making tin-foil hats for my Molech-day party on June 6th (06/06/06)

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INVASION USA

Citizen-built border fence gains steam

Activists solicit help from ranchers, donors, state lawmakers

April 26, 2006
WorldNetDaily.com

Taking matters into their own hands, some activists are working to build a fence along the nearly 2,000-mile U.S. southern border – with or without government participation.



Using the slogan "American Citizens Securing the Borders Themselves," The Border Fence Project hopes to raise enough money to build a fence along 90 percent of the U.S.-Mexico border that currently has no physical barrier.
www.borderfenceproject.com

According to the effort's website, the "fencing solution" will include the use of near-wholesale raw materials and use volunteer labor to build the structure.

Leaders from both parties in Washington have been reluctant to advocate a fence along the entire border, with some saying a "virtual fence" using high-tech surveillance equipment and drones can do the job of stemming illegal immigration.

States the Border Fence Project website: "Because Washington officials have consistently shown apprehension and outright consternation of the idea of a complete fence, it is unlikely they will ever cooperate, assuming the public continues to vote for special-interest candidates. Furthermore, most estimates show that because of the inefficiency of government labor and high markup on raw materials, the cost is likely to run $9 billion, only 23 percent of the Department of Homeland Security annual budget, but enough to receive grief from the open-borders lobby.

"We know we the civilian volunteers, in cooperation with Minuteman-like groups already on the border, can do the job for 1/400 of that cost!"

The organization, led by Jim Wood of Running Springs, Calif., believes an effective fence can be built for between $1.50 and $4 a foot. It would consist of a barbed-wire fence guarded by "solar motion lights with sirens, other motion sensors, electronic sensors that determine if the wire has been cut and a television-camera-unit for up to every quarter-mile of fencing depending on landscape," the site states.

Last week, Chris Simcox, leader of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a civilian border patrol group, said if the government was not going to build a fence, volunteers would do so.
www.minutemanhq.com

''We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise,'' Simcox told the Associated Press.

Meanwhile, an Arizona state lawmaker is proposing legislation to allow ranchers who lease state land along the border to build fencing on government property.

State Rep. Russell Pearce told KVOA-TV the bill is still being drafted.

"I'm interested in helping to do that," Pearce said. "We don't have authority over federal land but we do over state land."

Simcox, who hopes to begin the fence project May 25, says he is supportive of the proposed legislation.

Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair called the response to the fence proposal unbelievable – "people wanting to donate, to help build a fence, people wanting a fence on their land," according to AP.

Said Simcox on the Minuteman website: "We have chosen a fence design that is based on the Israeli fences in Gaza and on the West Bank that have cut terrorist attacks there by 95 percent or more. In order to be effective, a fence should not be easy to compromise by climbing over it with a ladder, cutting through it with wire cutters, ramming it with a vehicle, or tunneling under it undetected."

The design includes a double fence with a six-foot trench on both sides and surveillance cameras. Simcox says the fence would cost no more than $150 a foot.

Border-area ranchers have long been active in opposing illegal immigration, since the entrants often vandalize their property and commit other crimes as they make their way north.

Meanwhile, www.WeNeedAFence.com, a leading organization in the effort to erect a fence, is hailing recent comments by Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., supporting a physical barrier on the border.

"A physical structure is obviously important. A wall in certain areas would be appropriate," Clinton is quoted by the New York Daily News as saying.

"We commend Senator Clinton for supporting a secure physical barrier along our southern border," said WeNeedAFence.com President Colin Hanna. "We welcome the opportunity to work with senators on both sides of the aisle to build consensus in favor of a state-of-the-art border fence."

www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49904

See also:

Minutemen to build border fence on private land
The Washington Times
www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20060421-102029-5342r

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