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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


1. "If the President orders it, that makes it legal"

a) Vladimir Putin, with regard to jailing oil businessman Mikhail Khodorkovsky and nationalizing the Yukos oil company.
b) Richard Nixon, with regard to the Huston Plan, which advocated wiretappings, "black bag jobs", mail openings and infiltration against antiwar groups and others.
c) Alberto Gonzales, with regard to W Bush's extra-FISA wiretaps.
d) Saddam Hussein, with regard to the execution of alleged rebels.


2) Known first as a businessman, this national leader encouraged deregulation and then presided over years of major business scandals and corruption involving his closest business associates and losses of hundred of billions of dollars. This man is

a) Alberto Fujimori, Peru (exiled in Japan)
b) Vicente Fox, Mexico
c) George W Bush, United States
d) Junichiro Koizumi, Japan


3) Viewed as a holder of weapons of mass destruction, this leader has openly considered using them against religious zealots in other countries who have made threats against his nation's existance. He is

a) Ariel Sharon of Israel, against the Palestinians
b) Vladimir Putin of Russia, against Chechnyan rebels
c) Saddam Hussein of Iraq, against Iran
d) George W Bush of USA, against Iran


4) This leader of an oil-rich nation came to office duing an election that was marked by irregularities committed by sympathetic local election officials, charges of intimidation at the polls, and selection by a politically-motivated judiciary. He is

a) Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe
b) George Bush, United States
c) Hugo Chavez, Venezuela
d) Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan


Answers to come later. Feel free to add your own! (But ya gotta provide answers and links.)

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:28 AM

KHYRON


1) b) Nixon

4) d) Karimov

Not too sure about the other two, although I do have my suspicions. I'd have to do some research to be sure though, and I think that's against the rules.


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


1) Smartypants!

4) Not exactly.....

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:49 AM

KHYRON


Don't feel like doing a lot of research, but I did do a bit of wiki-ing, so my best guesses (with some help) for the other two are:

Select to view spoiler:

2) a), 3) a)


(spoilered because I had some help (although I'm not saying my answers are right)).


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:50 AM

KHYRON


Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
4) Not exactly.....

WTF!? And I was sure of that one!

Oh well .


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Okay, here's an easy one.

This leader was so offended by a historic national statue that he ordered it covered.

a) Mullah Omar, Afghanistan Taliban
b) John Ashcroft, Attny General USA


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:57 AM

KHYRON


Ashcroft. Ironic that he had the "Spirit of Justice" covered up, don't you think?

Is it 4) c) then?


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:17 AM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Ashcroft. Ironic that he had the "Spirit of Justice" covered up, don't you think?

Is it 4) c) then?


Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.


I suspect his ego could not handle sharing the stage with another " boob "





" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:22 AM

KHYRON


Lol yeah. But that one was sort of a dead give-away even if one didn't know about that incident. Mullah Omar is well-known for having statues of things he doesn't like simply blown up (such as centuries-old Buddha statues).


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Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:50 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Okay, here's an easy one.

This leader was so offended by a historic national statue that he ordered it covered.

a) Mullah Omar, Afghanistan Taliban
b) John Ashcroft, Attny General USA


Let's see...Ashcroft had one covered up, Omar had many blown up, including the Bamiyan Buddhas.

http://www.photogrammetry.ethz.ch/research/bamiyan/buddha/destruction.
html

So who wins the evilness prize in this matchup? Is it easier to pull a drape back, or recreate blasted giant 2,000 year old limestone carvings?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:30 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Lol yeah. But that one was sort of a dead give-away even if one didn't know about that incident. Mullah Omar is well-known for having statues of things he doesn't like simply blown up (such as centuries-old Buddha statues).


Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.


I started to look about to try and see why they would do this and found this article

http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/archaeology/2001-03-22-afghan-bud
dhas.htm

" In Afghanistan recently, supreme Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar issued an edict against un-Islamic graven images, which means all idolatrous images of humans and animals. As a result, the Taliban are destroying all ancient sculptures. "

While not having much familarity with the Koran, it reminded me of this

8. No Graven Images & Idols


Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt nor make unto thee any graven image, of any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Thou
shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them; for I, the LORD thy God, am a jealous
God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation
of them that hate me (2nd Commandment).

Deut. 4:23 Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he
made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of anything, which the LORD
thy God hath forbidden thee.

Psalms 78:58 For they provoked him to anger with their high places, and moved him to jealousy with their
graven images.

Isaiah 42:17 They shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images,Ye are our gods.

Jeremiah 8:19 Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images, and with strange vanities?

Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither
shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your
God.

Isaiah 2:8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own
fingers have made.

2nd Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living
God.

I John 5:21 Little Children, keep yourselves from idols.

1 Thes 1:9 For they themselves show of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye
turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God.


This lead me to a new term : Iconoclasm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm

It seems Catholics, Prosedants, Jews, Moslems all have more in common than they would be willing to admit....




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While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 2:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:
Let's see...Ashcroft had one covered up, Omar had many blown up, including the Bamiyan Buddhas.
Well Geezer, I said it would be easy. BTW- Omar wins the evilness contest. So- what about the other questions?

I'll post the answers next week.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:09 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
So- what about the other questions?

I'll post the answers next week.


No need. We all get your drift. Don't like that Bush guy, eh?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, April 24, 2006 5:16 AM

HERO


Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Okay, here's an easy one.

This leader was so offended by a historic national statue that he ordered it covered.

a) Mullah Omar, Afghanistan Taliban
b) John Ashcroft, Attny General USA


Thats easy. Ashcroft ordered the "cover up".

The Taliban preferred to blow up the statues they didn't approve of.

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Monday, April 24, 2006 5:38 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Okay, here's an easy one.

This leader was so offended by a historic national statue that he ordered it covered.

a) Mullah Omar, Afghanistan Taliban
b) John Ashcroft, Attny General USA


Let's see...Ashcroft had one covered up, Omar had many blown up, including the Bamiyan Buddhas.

http://www.photogrammetry.ethz.ch/research/bamiyan/buddha/destruction.
html

So who wins the evilness prize in this matchup? Is it easier to pull a drape back, or recreate blasted giant 2,000 year old limestone carvings?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

Isn't the US supposed to be all into freedom of speech and expression, expression like art, while the Taliban are all about "do as we say" though.

Point is you expect it from the Taliban, but not the US.


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Monday, April 24, 2006 5:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well apparently we're OK as long as we're not "as bad as" the Taliban. Boy, that's setting your standards pretty low!!

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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:15 AM

CITIZEN


Sooo it's alright to beat people for minor offences, since the Taliban stone them?


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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:37 AM

FREMDFIRMA


GINOBIFFARONI said..
Quote:
It seems Catholics, Prosedants, Jews, Moslems all have more in common than they would be willing to admit....


Far, far more than you'd even believe.

At one time they did have peace, in accord with an agreement called "Dastur al-Medina".
(The Constitution of Medina)".
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/understanding_i
slam_challenges_to_democracy_and_diversity/

That peace came in response to actual religious tolerance and sharing of 'common ground' between beliefs.

Care to guess who wrote it ?
Mohammed.

Not quite the warmonger he's been historically made out to be, is he?

All of the core beliefs involved, regardless of where they go from there, believe themselves to be the sons and daughters of Abraham/Ibrihim, and state that they should not kill other sons and daughters thereof.

There's a lot of common ground there, and like a family feud, that's probably why the hatreds are so very bitter.

-F



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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:43 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Isn't the US supposed to be all into freedom of speech and expression, expression like art, while the Taliban are all about "do as we say" though.

Point is you expect it from the Taliban, but not the US.



If the US had blown up the Bhuddas, I'd surely be upset. Ashcroft putting up curtains was just stupid and sort of silly, gave the press a good opportunity for bad puns about the Atty Gen being "abreast" of the times, and has since been reversed with no harm done. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8360632/

Considering the two incidents comparable is just about as stupid and silly as Ashcroft's cover-up.

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Sooo it's alright to beat people for minor offences, since the Taliban stone them?


No. You should incarcerate them and let their fellow minor offenders beat them. Duh!

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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:52 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
If the US had blown up the Bhuddas, I'd surely be upset. Ashcroft putting up curtains was just stupid and sort of silly, gave the press a good opportunity for bad puns about the Atty Gen being "abreast" of the times, and has since been reversed with no harm done. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8360632/

Considering the two incidents comparable is just about as stupid and silly as Ashcroft's cover-up.

Then it's good it was reversed, but it was still government censorship based on the whims of one man in the first place. Not a good thing.
Quote:
No. You should incarcerate them and let their fellow minor offenders beat them. Duh!

Wow, jailing and turning a blind eye to beatings thereof of women who have had sex out of wed-lock.

Your a hard-liner all right.

You know that homosexuallity was a stoneable offence to the Taliban, right.


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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:55 AM

ENNA19LOLLY


Hey are the answers:
1. b
2. d
3. a
4. c
??

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Monday, April 24, 2006 6:58 AM

KHYRON


Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
No. You should incarcerate them and let their fellow minor offenders beat them. Duh!

Citizen, I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that was meant as a joke (then again, maybe your response to it was in jest too).


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Monday, April 24, 2006 8:47 AM

BARTICUS


C
C
D
B

Yup good questionaire...did you see that unveiling of the new statue of him that says 2001- ? Now call me mr picky but he has to step down right? Maybe he has other plans?

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Monday, April 24, 2006 9:07 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
No. You should incarcerate them and let their fellow minor offenders beat them. Duh!

Citizen, I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that was meant as a joke (then again, maybe your response to it was in jest too).


Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.


We Have A Winner! Maybe I need to start adding the "j/k(s)" abbreviation to let Citizen and the other Libero-Puritans (did I just coin a new word?) know I'm just kidding in a sarcastic way.

It's really sad when dogmatism eliminates the sense of humor.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, April 24, 2006 9:25 AM

KHYRON


I had a similar problem, that's why I started using and . It seems like you've been getting some undeserved abuse lately, first rue and now citizen.


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Monday, April 24, 2006 9:40 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Khyron,

The minute I take a discussion board so seriously that I can't have a little fun with it, that's when I need to step back and re-evaluate. Others may have differing opinions.

I've had some good discussions here, even with Rue and Citizen, but it seems that the insults-to-rational discourse ratio has gone South in a big way. That's why I don't play as much as I used to.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, April 24, 2006 9:40 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


And now a double post. This ain't no kind'a fun atall.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, April 24, 2006 10:29 AM

CITIZEN


Just to clarify:
Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Citizen, I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that was meant as a joke (then again, maybe your response to it was in jest too).

Yes I know, yes it was.
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
We Have A Winner! Maybe I need to start adding the "j/k(s)" abbreviation to let Citizen and the other Libero-Puritans (did I just coin a new word?) know I'm just kidding in a sarcastic way.

Since I got the joke and you didn't...
Quote:
It's really sad when dogmatism eliminates the sense of humor.

Now now, what was that about insults?

Also, Puritan?

That's just an unwarranted slur you Conservo-Taintian!

A soul whose intentions are good,
CitizenIsMisunderstood.


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