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With my experience of navigation as a qualified Yachtmaster, I turned my experimentation to discover if the ancient mariners could find latitude and longitude with the cross. The experiments conducted, confirmed that the ancients could find their position anywhere on the Earth within 3 nautical miles with a hand held device. This discovery may help to prove that it was possible for sailors such as the Phoenicians to have made regular trading contact with the Americas in pre Columbian times. It also may explain the mysterious navigation skills of the Polynesians. This discovery also helps support pioneers of the theory of ancient intercontinental travel such as Thor Heyderhal with his Kon Tiki and Ra expeditions.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I remember when I was in Philosophy class, I learned that an Ancient Greek philosopher had calculated the approximate circumference of the Earth by measuring shadows. That's some far out stuff.

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Cool link, Soupcatcher. I guess when nature provides technology for free, there's no need to develop it.

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I find the Celtic cross thing the most interesting:

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With my experience of navigation as a qualified Yachtmaster, I turned my experimentation to discover if the ancient mariners could find latitude and longitude with the cross. The experiments conducted, confirmed that the ancients could find their position anywhere on the Earth within 3 nautical miles with a hand held device. This discovery may help to prove that it was possible for sailors such as the Phoenicians to have made regular trading contact with the Americas in pre Columbian times. It also may explain the mysterious navigation skills of the Polynesians. This discovery also helps support pioneers of the theory of ancient intercontinental travel such as Thor Heyderhal with his Kon Tiki and Ra expeditions.

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http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_5.htm

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:


Ancient Wonders of Knowledge


Hello all, and please come aboard, PirateJenny. Piratenews, you are welcome if you can avoid the terms 'gangsta govt' and 'jew.'


PirateJenny's post about alternative beliefs was interesting to me. It got me thinking about ancient wonders of knowledge.

The Baghdad (sp?) Battery is one such example. An apparent low-voltage battery.

I remember when I was in Philosophy class, I learned that an Ancient Greek philosopher had calculated the approximate circumference of the Earth by measuring shadows. That's some far out stuff.

What other surprising ancient knowledge are you guys aware of? Let's forget for a moment WHERE this knowledge came from (or we'll be arguing about aliens in no time) but concentrate instead on the knowledge itself.

I'm very interested to see what you guys reveal. I may learn a lot.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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...In India, ancient writings describe armies and gods using flying vehicles to wage war. Unlike other religious documents that satisfy themselves with nondescript 'fiery chariots,' the Indians concocted detailed descriptions of the flying machines and the mechanisms which drove them.

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Originally posted by PirateJenny:
How about the Egyptian Pyramids, even with all of our technology today we still can't build one, and the pyramids are much older then orginally thought, if I'm correct 7,000 years older then originally thought.

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which means that you can navigate by air using the pyramid.

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but about the science fiction, does anyone remember watching Aliens the movie with sigourney Weaver, and at the beginning she was talking on a phone that showed her picture to the other person they could see eachother , well that movie came out in like 1987 or 88 and I thought it was so cool, and now look we have cell phones with picture, back then that was science fiction, now its reality

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I don't have a link, But I remember reading that bodies were found with evidence that the Mayans performed some basic brain surgery, complete with metal plates attacted to the skull....

long before any European culture

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These texts clearly deal with fantastical effects, but couch them in mechanical devices and weapons. Rather than simply suggest magic or divine might, they go into imagined details of construction and operation.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Actually we could build them with the technology of today. We don't really know how they did it (though there's been successful scale experiments) but I'd have to say they had whips.

Massive massive whips.

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That doesn't mean that's why they built the pyramids or why they were laid out in the way they were.

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but about the science fiction, does anyone remember watching Aliens the movie with sigourney Weaver, and at the beginning she was talking on a phone that showed her picture to the other person they could see eachother , well that movie came out in like 1987 or 88 and I thought it was so cool, and now look we have cell phones with picture, back then that was science fiction, now its reality
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Aliens is one of my favourite films, but the video phone was hardly Science Fiction in the late 80's, more like science fact:
1956 - The first picture phone system is built as a test system by AT&T.
1964 - AT&T presents the Picturephone (or Mod1) at the World’s Fair, people line up to make a video call to Disneyland in Anaheim, California, where people also line up to call the World’s Fair. The first person to use the Picturephone is Herbert Hoover.
1970 - Toshiba develops the world's first colour video phone.

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Originally posted by PirateJenny:
my whole point about the phone in Aliens, is that it was thought of as science fiction, not that it couldn't be built it just all seemed futuristic but my point is, science fiction often times becomes reality. things like airplanes would have been science fiction a hundred or more years ago and now its reality.

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Hello,

I certainly don't want to get into arguments over whether or not ancient wonders were made by aliens.

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my whole point about the phone in Aliens, is that it was thought of as science fiction, not that it couldn't be built it just all seemed futuristic but my point is, science fiction often times becomes reality. things like airplanes would have been science fiction a hundred or more years ago and now its reality.

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And mine was that sometimes things aren't Science Fiction, they're mundane, no matter what one may think .

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Just because something exists does not make it mundane. Sure, the video-phone was invented long before it showed up in Aliens. But it certainly wasn't a widely-used piece of equipment back then. Come to think of it, last I checked, I didn't see a lot of real-time video phones being used today.

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Computers existed when Star Trek first aired, but it was science fiction to think you could have one small enough to keep in your pocket.

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PS There is also no evidence they were built by slaves. Chemical and physical analysis of the bones showed the workers were well-nourished.

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Star Trek TOS did in fact have portable computers in it. Or, perhaps more accurately, portable electronic devices that could only work if they were computerized. This includes the Tricorder, the hand-held Universal Translator, and something resembling a PDA upon which Kirk signed his orders. These devices were not strictly pocket sized, but were satchel or lap-top sized. Frequently they were seen to act independently of the main computer, indicating they had seperate computing capacity.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Of course, we have a preponderance of island cities buried or drowned in various catastrophes, and that only serves to muddy the waters.

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