Now that I've figured the whole thing out RE: our origin... by chrisisall

That which you call the destruction of the world will be a change in the world; the Moon's secret will be revealed.

You'll get your chance to sacrifice.
We'll start with world leaders, they are the robots that evolved from the nanite technology supposedly destroyed to conceal our past; one nanite was overlooked, and in his lonliness, he decided to replicate and control mankind as a punishment.

No-Nanos Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:34 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

According to Christopher Knight's book "Who built the Moon" it was time travelers.
Aparently they created the moon as a kind of fool-proof catalyst to insure the right conditions existed for life to evolve.
Maybe, like "Deep thought" the program it's running is nearing it's end and Teusday is the day that it finaly switches off.
On the other hand, if it was time travelers, how did they evolve in the first place to a point where they realised that they had to go back in time to create the moon so that they could evolve in the first place?
Ooooh, I feel a headache coming on.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:45 AM

Originally posted by chrisisall:

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And evolution has been pretty much disproved

Didn't they end up re-proving (for want of a better word) Evolution again. The idea of Inteligent Design (the supposed evidence of a higher being) having been found flawed. With the initial researchers failing to forward significant details contradicting their very experiments...?

Or was I just dozing on the sofa when that came on ?

Just out of curiosity - why do you (collective you) want to know about the origins? I mean I have my own thoughts but I'm sort of interested as to what people hope/think/believe/fear it may all be about?

The
Somnambulist

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:15 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY

Maybe if we knew where we came from we would have a better idea of where we are going to end up.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Maybe if we knew where we came from we would have a better idea of where we are going to end up.

How do you think we would function if we knew where we were going? If the answer we had wasn't nearly as grand as we'd hoped?

What if our purpose is insignificant? Do you think we'd be able to comprehend an insignificant exsistance?

The
Somnambulist

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:39 PM

FLETCH2

It's not the destination but the journey that's important.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:44 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Maybe if we knew where we came from we would have a better idea of where we are going to end up.

How do you think we would function if we knew where we were going? If the answer we had wasn't nearly as grand as we'd hoped?

What if our purpose is insignificant? Do you think we'd be able to comprehend an insignificant exsistance?

The
Somnambulist

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Maybe not, but perhaps we could accept it and not be so wound up by the "infinate possibilities".
Then we could enjoy the journey.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:45 PM

Perhaps ... perhaps there are wandering tribes of humans, still out their roaming the stars, looking for a home they call, "Earth."

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Perhaps ... perhaps there are wandering tribes of humans, still out their roaming the stars, looking for a home they call, "Earth."

Then....we give 'em VIPERS!!!

Caprican Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:02 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Just out of curiosity - why do you (collective you) want to know about the origins?

Because if we as a planet could concieve of something real and tangible outside of this small world, maybe we could behave more like brothers and sisters, and less like tribes warring over whose 'God' rules.

And the nano-evolved robots don't want that.

Muahahahahah Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:05 PM

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

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Maybe not, but perhaps we could accept it and not be so wound up by the "infinate possibilities".
Then we could enjoy the journey.

Perhaps yes.

www.cirqus.com

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:11 PM

Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Because if we as a planet could concieve of something real and tangible outside of this small world, maybe we could behave more like brothers and sisters, and less like tribes warring over whose 'God' rules.

Good words Big 'C'. If it comes to it lets hope they ring true eh...

The
'S'

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Because if we as a planet could concieve of something real and tangible outside of this small world, maybe we could behave more like brothers and sisters, and less like tribes warring over whose 'God' rules.

Yeah but if you look at the religions of the world, most of which are exactly the same when you get to the core, most seem to say, don't be an ass and be nice to others.

I mean when Jesus said that a Samaritan could be a good person you have to remember that Samaritans worshiped in a very different way and were not on good footing with the Jews.

He's saying, "Your enemies can be good people," and he's not alone in it. Though I will yield that Judaism is violent and warlike when that violence is in the name of religion it only seems to be against heretics, not heathens.

Most of the time anyone killing in the name of god is disobeying whichever god they are killing in the name of so it can't be the belief in god that is the problem. The problem has to be something else. I think the problem is people.

I mean let's say you believe in god, what does god do, he she or it goes around saying to people, "Hi, how are you? Listen. Be good, here's the version of the golden rule best suited for your people, here's a parable or two, be nice." And someone says that stuff to the people, and then a generation or two later they’re killing each other over the spelling.

Let's say you don't believe in god, then someone hallucinates god saying the exact same thing.

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I have a feeling that something real and tangible would have the same effect as the words, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Which is to say nothing. Nothing at all.

No change, just different reasons for killing each other.

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To change the world you need to change people, to change people you need them to want to change, god is as good a way to get them to do that as any.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:

No change, just different reasons for killing each other.

Okay. Let's take a poll.
What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?

Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:32 PM

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Okay. Let's take a poll.
What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?

I don't kill people, but if history is any indication I'd say social cleansing is the reason most often chosen. New records have caused us to reevaluate the number of gypsies killed in the holocaust (much more than we thought), no one talks about them though, no one likes them.

Trade unionists and such don't get much talk either.

But they do die quite often.

All in all I'd say the desire for land, power, and desire for a utopian society free of all "lesser" people and trouble makers are reasons for killing more often than religion.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:33 PM

DANFAN

"What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?"

Only the last time? OK. Someone jumped line ahead of me at a Serenity screening.

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:36 PM

Someone said Buffy's last episode wasn't great.
Yeah, I lost it and went postal.
Jury understood, though.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by danfan:
"What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?"

Only the last time? OK. Someone jumped line ahead of me at a Serenity screening.

You killed a fellow Browncoat?

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 4:12 PM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
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Originally posted by danfan:
"What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?"

Only the last time? OK. Someone jumped line ahead of me at a Serenity screening.

You killed a fellow Browncoat?

Obviously they were an Alliance plant.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 6:31 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
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Originally posted by danfan:
"What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?"

Only the last time? OK. Someone jumped line ahead of me at a Serenity screening.

You killed a fellow Browncoat?
Obviously they were an Alliance plant.

Plant or not, you don't KILL someone for cutting in line to see the BDM!!!!

But callin' Buffy's last ep no good...

That's a horse of a different genome Chrisisall

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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:31 AM

DANFAN

"Plant or not, you don't KILL someone for cutting in line to see the BDM!!!! "

I felt bad about it afterwards. Does that count for something?

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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:34 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
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Originally posted by danfan:
"What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?"

Only the last time? OK. Someone jumped line ahead of me at a Serenity screening.

You killed a fellow Browncoat?
Obviously they were an Alliance plant.

Plant or not, you don't KILL someone for cutting in line to see the BDM!!!!

But callin' Buffy's last ep no good...

That's a horse of a different genome Chrisisall

They were only there to sabotage the projector so that it would only screen my little pony the movie.

*Singing* My Little Pony all skinny and bony...

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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:34 AM

Buy another FF set and say three 'Hail Serenity's', and all will be well.

Father Chrisisall

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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:48 AM

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The only answer is ...Ancient Astronauts!

Dogon Gods
According to Zecharia Sitchen, a linguist in command of many ancient languages, the Nibiruans landed on Earth, colonized it, mining the Earth for gold and other minerals, establishing a spaceport in what today is the Iraq-Iran area - the Cradle of Civilization - and lived in a kind of idealistic society as a small colony. They genetically interfered in our indigenous DNA to create a slave-race to work their mines, farms, and other enterprises in Sumer. They created HuMans, Homo Sapiens, through genetic manipulation with themselves and ape man Homo Erectus.

geez... i thought everybody knew this.... i’ve just been bidding my time, ticket in hand, waiting for that return flight to Sirius...

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Monday, June 5, 2006 8:02 AM

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Monday, June 5, 2006 8:07 AM

So, my theories are gaining acceptance, good.

Now, what to do about those pesky world leader neo-nano-bots?

Let's get to work Chrisisall

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Monday, June 5, 2006 8:50 AM

you mean these guys...?

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Monday, June 5, 2006 9:08 AM

ROCKETJOCK

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by christhecynic:

No change, just different reasons for killing each other.

Okay. Let's take a poll.
What reasons did you have last time you killed someone?

Chrisisall

It involved a late-night breakfast at Denny's

I mean, Applesauce? On a mushroom omelette? Puh-lease!

"Blood is thicker than water. Be sure to adjust all your recipies accordingly." -- H. Lecter

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Monday, June 5, 2006 9:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dayve:
you mean these guys...?

Among others.

The top one seems to have developed a nano-tick...

He'll have to get it fixed...Chrisisall

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Monday, June 5, 2006 11:01 AM