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Saturday, July 15, 2006 4:00 PM

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Tonight, our Christian God-loving world leaders put on their Satanic hoods and perform their "mock" child sacrifice to their 50-foot-tall idol of Molech from Babylon (Iraq). Then they spend 2 weeks running around nekked in the woods holding each others' peepees while they weewee on the giant redwood trees and plot their next world war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

2006 SCHEDULE OF LAKESIDE TALKS AT BOHEMIAN GROVE
Saturday, July 15: CREMATION OF CARE
www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/lakesidetalks2006.html

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Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
http://www.lonelantern.org/bohemian_grove.html

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove
Original full-length version - Infiltration of Jewish Bohemian Grove presidential compound and homosexual nudist colony that performs "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot-tall idol of Molech - Where Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe III (Rockefeller) vacation every year to worship Satan and run nekked in the woods with 3,000 homosexual world dictators - Undercover video by Infowars.com
http://www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove and The Order of Death
Two documentaries in one - An employee of Bohemian Grove presidential compound used undercover video to capture the 50-foot-tall idol of Molech and "mock" human sacrifice up close and in broad daylight - Undercover video by Infowars.com
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VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Boners at Bohemian Grove
Music video by Counter Coup and John Lee
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VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Snuff kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove
Alex Jones of Infowars.com interviews Senator John DeCamp author of The Franklin Coverup, music by Counter Coup and Bohemian Club
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6737.php

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV

And the king sent, and they gathered unto him all the elders of Judah and of Jerusalem. And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Baal, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel. And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove. And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech. And he slew all the priests of the high places that were there upon the altars, and burned men's bones upon them, and returned to Jerusalem. Jehoahaz was twenty and three years old when he began to reign; and he reigned three months in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Hamutal, the daughter of Jeremiah of Libnah. And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD. And Jehoiakim gave the silver and the gold to Pharaoh; but he taxed the land to give the money according to the commandment of Pharaoh: he exacted the silver and the gold of the people of the land, of every one according to his taxation, to give it unto Pharaohnechoh. Jehoiakim was twenty and five years old when he began to reign; And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, according to all that his fathers had done."
-2 Kings 23:1-37


Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
http://www.43places.com/places/view/379646

"Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds.
Oh lord, yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah.
Time will tell on their power minds,
making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.
Now in darkness world stops turning,
ashes where the bodies burning.
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, God is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
Oh lord, yeah!"
-Ozzy Osbourne
(George Bush Jr's fav musician)
Black Sabbath, "War Pigs"


It's just nudist camp for superrich transvestites like Jr Bush

"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time - it is the most faggy goddamn thing that you would ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd."
-President Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon (R-Resigned), White House audiotape, Nixon Presidential Library, 1971
www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html (audio download)

"The mood is reminiscent of high school. There's no end to the pee-pee and penis jokes, suggesting that these men, advanced in so many other ways, were emotionally arrested sometime during adolescence"
-Philip Weiss, Spy Magazine journalist, who infiltrated the Grove in 1989.

"I'm not going to end up tied down to a Pentagram with Henry Kissenger standing over me naked with his fat belly hanging out, holding a dagger in his hand, am I?"
—Alex Jones, from Jones' video Dark Secrets, as Jon Ronson was briefing Jones on how to infiltrate the Grove for British Channel 4 TV


It's just nudist camp for superrich transvestites like Jr Bush. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/FindingAids/dynaweb/calher/bohemian/figure
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More photos and news from Bohemian Grove:
www.nwowatcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=152
www.geocities.com/bohemian_grove_dirt
www.infowars.com/bg1.html
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/170106bohemiangrove.htm


God save us all.

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Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?

Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.
-Serenity - The Official Visual Companion



How can I get the Captain to shoot a cop in the face, and make it right? That extra moment of sadism - that's the thing that says it's okay, buddy, you're not up to spec, you're going down!
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Saturday, July 15, 2006 6:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Tonight, our Christian God-loving world leaders put on their Satanic hoods and perform their "mock" child sacrifice...


I call dibs on a drumstick! Tastes just like chicken!

Remember, Kiddies, you can't spell "QUAGMIRE" without "I", "R", "A", & "Q"!

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Monday, July 17, 2006 10:00 PM

PIRATEJENNY



I'm late to this party on what day did this take place, I'm currently in the mist of reading Trance Formation America. When I'm finished I'm going to write up a whole thread on it, She said( Kathy O'brien that her and her daughter kelly were taken to Bohemian Grove and prostittuted and raped there. and the names.. its some pretty sick stuff that goes on at that place sick and crimnal.

So far the stories of horrors about the place are consistant, Paul Bonnacci , Kathy O'brien even Nixion made mention of it.

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:17 AM

FREMDFIRMA


As I recall, Nixons exact comment was..

"The damn faggiest thing I ever saw.."

-Frem

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:00 PM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:

I'm late to this party on what day did this take place, I'm currently in the mist of reading Trance Formation America. When I'm finished I'm going to write up a whole thread on it, She said( Kathy O'brien that her and her daughter kelly were taken to Bohemian Grove and prostittuted and raped there. and the names.. its some pretty sick stuff that goes on at that place sick and crimnal.

So far the stories of horrors about the place are consistant, Paul Bonnacci , Kathy O'brien even Nixon made mention of it.



Ah yes, the Necrophilia Room, Cheney's favorite recreation area.

Cremation of Care human sacrifice ritual was Saturday night. Jr Bush was allegedly in Russia about that time (photos only showed him on Air Force 1), but since the party lasts 2 weeks, he still has time to run nekked thru the woods and hold Dick's, uh, dick. Many of Bush Jr's White House staff are there, such as General Colin Powell, The Butcher of Bagdad.

Isn't it wonderful that "our" Govt loves us so much? Isn't it great that the talking heads and editors of our Media Mafia perform human sacrifice to Molech, then forget to tell us all about their vacation to Hell?

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:15 PM

PIRATEJENNY


I was reading this info from the link above and thought this was very interesting , because this is how most secret socities operate.

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/bohemian_grove.htm



This isn't the typical Bohemian Grove expose which claims that the large summer gathering consists entirely of Establishment bigwigs, and that the Cremation of Care ceremony is an occult ritual. My position is that it's the equivalent of the outermost circle of a high-level satanic cult, intended to sift through those invited to attend, and draw the most potentially useful toward the center of the cult. One of the more prominent aspects of the gathering seems to be to puff up the egotism of the newcomers. The supposed exclusivity of the event is mentioned in almost every account I've read. Besides being in itself an appeal to luciferic tendencies (egotism/selfishness), it also tends to make them feel as if they're part of the Establishment, and thus transfer their loyalty away from mankind in general to the Establishment. The participation of high-profile lackeys and the speeches by others are apparently part of this strategy. Based on what I've seen about the speeches, they're just another variety of disinformation. The religious trappings of the Cremation of Care ritual have several purposes, although their main purpose seems to be to create the authorization for the participants to abandon themselves to their lower nature. The rest of the two weeks is then a matter of experimenting with various sensual delights, and progressively discarding one's inhibitions against debauchery and even depravity. The only women allowed are prostitutes, which tends to debase their attitude toward sex and undermine their marriages. It's classic Hell-Fire Club strategy.

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Obviously real human sacrifices, go on there, but not everyone is allowed to particpate in that, only the selected inner circle.

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This to is interesting.

The Grove's Babylonian/Druidic Connection

There is no shortage of evidence that the rituals conducted at Bohemian Grove (the worst of which probably occur during the off-season, when the outer circle is gone) are derived from the rituals of ancient Babylon, Canaan, Phoenicia, and Carthage. Alex Jones (infowars.com) videotaped the Cremation of Care ritual, and his website contains transcripts, which include specific references to Babylon and "Goodly Tyre." In fact, the Grove in and of itself is an indication of a Druid heritage. Although information on Druidism is sketchy because of the eradication of the Sun Mysteries from civilization beginning in the fourth century A.D., there are some sources which trace them back to Phoenicia and the Babylonian pantheon. The following source indicated that it was "handed down," implying by means of oral tradition.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:18 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Yes to all the above.

I would add that the Cremation of Care is a powerful attempt at mind control of those lower-level "elites" invited to attend. If they've ever attended a Christian church or Jewish synogogue or Islamic mosque, they will KNOW they are "participating" in a Satanic cult. This WILL warp their minds, one way or another, just like the Freemason death cults "kill" their initiates, and promise to kill them again if they disobey orders.

This Bohemian ceremony will make it clear who's in control of The World, and it ain't Jesus.

So it causes Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, which is one ingredient of torture-based mind control (River Tam, Cathy O'Brien, etc). Very clever, perfected over the centuries and millenia by the ruling elite, to keep their minions under control.

Not to mention all the blackmail at the gay nudist colony. That's why there's video cameras all over the Grove, run by Sonoma County Sheriff Dept and SS. What a brilliant idea, if you're evil.

Just like Dragnet, with undercover cops Dan Akroyd and Tom Hanks (2 Jewish visitors to Bohemian Grove), which parodied Bohemian Grove (which is guarded by cops), but called them P.A.G.A.N.S. (People Against Goodness And Normalcy). They had a human sacrifice of the former virgin Connie Swail. I thought it was absurd and funny at the time ("nobody believes in witchcraft, there's no such thing as witches and WARlocks"), but now I feel like They were laughing at U.S. Jew Harry Shearer was also on Saturday Nite Live, and his movie Teddy Bears Picnic was sold as a parody of Alex Jones' undercover video raid of Bohemian Grove. Shearer is a member of the Grove.

PAGANS was run by a drug-dealin serial-killin "Christian" terrorist preacher, teamed with the Los Angeles police chief. Sounds familiar... LAPD chief Darrel Gates surely played at the Grove while LA burned. Pat Robertson is a 33rd Masonic Luciferian owner of diamond mines in Africa, busted for using his Operation Blessing jets for smuggling diamonds and tax evasion, and ordered the assassination of president Hugo Chavez. Now Venuzuela has stopped selling its Citco gas in USA, which is an 11% cut in supply, far more than the current loss of oil from Iraq, which is why prices tripled, so far (as the Bush Gang laffs in glee).

There don't seem to be any photos from Dragnet at the PAGAN party, wearing George Bush Jr's Satanic My Pet Goathead costume. Coincidence? You'd at least think the real pagans would start a shrine to that movie, as a recruitment tool.

My rich Jewish cousin-by-marriage was invited as a guest to Bohemian Grove. It's a Jewish thing, apparently, worshipping the old Hebrew Babylonian cult from the Torah/Bible/Quran.

I'm looking forward to the next undercover video from The Bohemian Grove. Any volunteers?

Dr Hunter S Thompson's snuff kiddie porn from the Grove is in possession of the FBI, so maybe we can do an FOIA request?

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:33 AM

PIRATEJENNY


weighing in on this

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The participation of high-profile lackeys and the speeches by others are apparently part of this strategy. Based on what I've seen about the speeches, they're just another variety of disinformation. The religious trappings of the Cremation of Care ritual have several purposes, although their main purpose seems to be to create the authorization for the participants to abandon themselves to their lower nature. The rest of the two weeks is then a matter of experimenting with various sensual delights, and progressively discarding one's inhibitions against debauchery and even depravity.



well after having read the Franklin Cover up we know that alot of black-mail goes on, especically concerning the people who they want to move into their inner circle and even the lower level lackeys, because its such a free for all at this place people who probably under normal circumstances who might not give into their lower base natures, you ply them with enough drugs and alcohol, and if other people are having sex with children and doing Gawd knows what else its probably alot easier for them to give into these depraved acts, I have no doubt that many of the people involved have been blackmailed.

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Monday, July 31, 2006 4:40 AM

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Tony BLiar to attend Bohemian Grove This Weekend?

Others including Schwarzenegger, Clinton, Murdoch, Shultz, Peres, Gore, Gingrich, Beane, Summers, Bono all in San Francisco this weekend

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com UK
July 29 2006

This weekend sees the finale of the annual gathering of the Bohemian Club in the secluded redwoods about 75 miles north of San Francisco. It just so happens that Tony Blair will be in San Francisco all weekend along with a whole host of other powerful elite luminaries.

Whilst the world seems to be on the brink of major war, Blair is, as reported today by the London Independent, on a flying tour of California to meet and do private business with Rupert Murdoch.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

The tony, private event, a five-day management retreat for 250 executives of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., is set to bring together a VIP guest list for the ages to chat about issues like volunteerism, technology and politics. Among them: Blair, Israeli Vice Premier Shimon Peres, former President Bill Clinton, former Vice President Al Gore, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Oakland A's general manager Billy Beane, former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers and even U2 lead singer and international do-gooder Bono.

Introducing Blair to the crowd on Sunday evening will be California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Republican governor will be celebrating his birthday and is expected to be on hand with first lady Maria Shriver at the event sponsored by Murdoch, a generous donor to the GOP whose mega-corporation owns Fox News, 20th Century Fox, DirecTV and 175 newspapers worldwide -- including the New York Post -- with a total circulation of 40 million.

Whilst in San Francisco Blair will also dine with George and Charlotte Shultz, the former secretary of state and current state protocol chief, respectively, and he's also expected to meet with Democratic gubernatorial nominee Phil Angelides.

Clinton, Shultz, Gore and Gingrich have all reportedly visited Bohemian Grove on previous occasions. The SF Chronicle also reported that Schwarzenegger was hand picked to become California Governor in 2003 at the Grove.

Could Blair and his friends be popping by the Redwoods for a visit this year? The timing of the gathering with Murdoch is very convenient.

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Queen Tony is a dress and unpowdered wig. That's gonna look great on video by Sonoma County Sheriff's Dept. Extortion, what would polyticks be without it?

Kaylee: Look they've got boy whores. How thoughtful.
Inara: They're fags, sweetie.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 10:58 AM

ANTIMASON


why is it always the same group of people(us) who openly acknowledge and accept the reality of these occult organisations and the extent of their control....

and then theres everyone else, who thinks this is all a broadway play, college fraternity, halloween party kind of spectacle.

dont these Bush supporting Christians recognize the god Molech from the old testament, and the Canaanites as the culture of people the Israelis wiped out at the behest of God, due to their idolaterous practices and Satan worhsip??

what is responsible for this massive disconnect???

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 10:33 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by antimason:
why is it always the same group of people(us) who openly acknowledge and accept the reality of these occult organisations and the extent of their control....



Maybe because you're even easier to mislead and deceive than intelligent people are... Just a hypothesis... Maybe it's the fluoride in your water.

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and then theres everyone else, who thinks this is all a broadway play, college fraternity, halloween party kind of spectacle.



Because, to a great many of us, ANY "religious" ceremony is an occult or cultish ceremony, and as such, it IS all a Broadway play (with worse choreography), college fraternity party (with fewer hot chicks invited), Halloween party kind of spectacle. It's stupid, insipid, and utterly pointless, but for those who are into this kind of crap, it's fun. Kind of like playing real-world Dungeons & Dragons in the park with Nerf swords. You look like an idiot doing it, but you're harmless, so what am I supposed to get upset about?

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dont these Bush supporting Christians recognize the god Molech from the old testament, and the Canaanites as the culture of people the Israelis wiped out at the behest of God, due to their idolaterous practices and Satan worhsip??



Who the hell are you calling "Bush-supporting"? Who the hell are you calling "christian"? And wiping out a whole people at the behest of god? How very "love thy brother as you love thyself" christian of you. I guess it was YOU who missed the message in your bible.

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what is responsible for this massive disconnect???



Simple statistical math. Fifty percent of the people in the USA are in the *bottom* half when it comes to intelligence. That doesn't necessarily make the top half "smart"... just smarter in comparison. But it definitely makes the bottom half pretty freaking dumb.

So how's the view from down there?

Mike

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 9:06 AM

ANTIMASON


am i an idiot because i actually look into evidence, or are you because you deny it?

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 9:27 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by antimason:
am i an idiot because i actually look into evidence, or are you because you deny it?



You are a fool for buying into nonsense and believing it to be "evidence".

At least I KNOW the difference.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 9:34 AM

ANTIMASON


ok..so because i consider evidence, im an idiot.

prove to me its nonsense? what qualifies as nonsense to you?

we have 4000+ years of history drawing connections, clear as day..between the elite, and the occult.

but you are willing to discount everything we know about prior civilizations. why does that make ME the idiot?

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 12:54 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by antimason:
ok..so because i consider evidence, im an idiot.

prove to me its nonsense? what qualifies as nonsense to you?

we have 4000+ years of history drawing connections, clear as day..between the elite, and the occult.

but you are willing to discount everything we know about prior civilizations. why does that make ME the idiot?




The burden of proof lies up YOU making your case, not in me disproving it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 7:55 PM

ANTIMASON


fair enough...then objectively evaluate the information im giving you!

all i am hearing from you guys is "thats nonsense" "your a wacko conspiracy leftist nutjob"!

instead of telling me "ya know Antimason..i see that there is obviously something unusual taking place, for elite individuals to attend a camp where they perform moch sacrifices to an OT idol; but i just dont think it has any significance." then i could respond and say "well..we've exposed the motives behind secret societies, like Freemasons, which can be proven to worship Lucifer, or Skull and Bones, which can be provenly tied to the Nazis, of whom idealized the occult" and so on etc.

but i dont get that..instead, the substance of my debate is never acknowledged. we know the Freemasons exist, and that an incredible number of prominant America officials were members, yet no one cares to understand the basis of Freemasonry?

i tell you Skull and Bones, of which many Bush family members, CIA, Pentagon, and supreme court justices were members of; and how they call themselves "the order of death", of which they take a pledge to serve their organisation above ALL OTHERS...and yet, no one seeks to understand the motives behind the group, which have been proven to be Luciferian

i tell you that the Rockefeller and Rothschild dynastys virtually created the world central banks, and American beauros such as the CFR, the TRI-Lateral commission...entities with the sole purpose of creating a global government. and yet you deny that any links can be made, let alone proven! well they can! its all out there for the world to see...its just they are counting on you all to remain ignorant about it, and so far theyve been right

i just dont know what it takes to have a fair discussion about this topic. it is not as if i am making all this up, i did the research, for over 2 years now, and this is where it consistantly leads me. why dont you all reach the same conclusions, or is it that you have never even taken the time to investigate it for yourselves to see if its true or not.

find me a source who explains away the monuments of occult symbolism and secret societies, and ill be satisfied. the problem is that you cant, so you resort to discrediting my character and calling me by all sorts of profane names; which only furthers my resolve

i am not a bad guy, so why is it that no one is willing to have a civil debate with me on the subject? i believe its because there is no positive side to the occult, so to discredit its entire history and significance is the only strategy..except it is denying that any of this has ever taken place! and you cant do that, its proven!

i think your dispute is whether God, and therefore Satan exists...and that is a personal belief and choice of everyones that i am not trying to pursuade anyone here to consider. but understand, to me, this is very significant, because God, and Jesus himself warned us of these times. i wouldnt be a true Christian if i ignored the significance of the occult, after ive already been exposed to it; especially considering we have peoples souls riding on the line

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JAYNEZTOWN


I believe the religion idol is an 'Owl' and not Molech or Baal as some have said

Newt Gingrich ordered to testify before Georgia grand jury in election inquiry

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2022/11/09/newt-gingric
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At least I KNOW the difference.




Did you now?

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove_spy.html

http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf7r29p3kg/

https://sfist.com/2019/06/09/sonoma-county-supervisor-to-bohemian-grov
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110520082617/http://bohemiangrovelogging
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https://www.forbes.com/legacy/forbes/1999/1004/6408098tab1_table.shtml

https://www.thenewamerican.com/print-magazine/item/27870-deep-state-se
cret-societies-skull-and-bones-bohemians-illuminati



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