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That's not to say that Mr. Libby and other White House officials are blameless. As prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald has reported, when Mr. Wilson charged that intelligence about Iraq had been twisted to make a case for war, Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney reacted by inquiring about Ms. Plame's role in recommending Mr. Wilson for a CIA-sponsored trip to Niger, where he investigated reports that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium. Mr. Libby then allegedly disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to journalists and lied to a grand jury when he said he had learned of her identity from one of those reporters. Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified.

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...Mr. Fitzgerald may also point out that Mr. Armitage knew about Ms. Wilson’s C.I.A. role only because of a memorandum that Mr. Libby had commissioned as part of an effort to rebut criticism of the White House by her husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV...

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but the white house has been consistently dishonest about this case..

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Mr. Libby and his boss, Mr. Cheney, were trying to discredit Mr. Wilson; if Mr. Fitzgerald's account is correct, they were careless about handling information that was classified.

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Originally posted by rue:
Well then, thank god I never said it was Bush. Bush is too isolated and clueless.

So, no apologies offered.

PS SignyM posted a long time ago that an anon. CIA source said it was leaked from the Old Exec. Bldg. And that after much searching, he was able to find it houses the Office of the VP and Sec. State. That convinced me at the time that either, or both, were the sources of the leak. And it was both.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Why apologize to Bush? Whether they leaked info out their ass or snarfed it out their nose- or most likely both- doesn't change the fact that multiple people in the administration tried multiple times to discredit Joe Wilson by "outing" his wife.


And BTW- Joe Wilson was correct. The Bush administration lied about the yellowcake story, just like they lied about everything else related to Iraq. And they're STILL lying! But for some reason that- try as I might I can't fathom- you have a desperate need to believe that the Administration is some giant daddy figure that will protect you from harm.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
From the Washington Post

End of an Affair

It turns out that the person who exposed CIA agent Valerie Plame was not out to punish her husband.

Friday, September 1, 2006; Page A20

WE'RE RELUCTANT to return to the subject of former CIA employee Valerie Plame because of our oft-stated belief that far too much attention and debate in Washington has been devoted to her story
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so If Teddy Kennedy , or John Kerry, or Hillary reveals the identity of a CIA agent, it would be no big thing, right...

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Auraptor,

Please point out the lie...what you posted showed no lie by Wilson, and if it did, point what specifically proves its a lie, cuz I'm not following you.

edit -- I didn't see your other post -- so you're saying he lied about being picked by Cheney...where is that in your original post?

Prior to Bush's speech about the yellow cake it had already been discredited by C.I.A officials who thought they had corrected the problem when they asked for it to be removed from Bush's speech on the case for war with Iraq. In spite of that, it ended up back in the speech. And that's not lying to the American public?

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29 September 2003 Press Briefing
Q Scott, what do you say to people out there who are watching this, perhaps, and saying, you know, I voted for George Bush because he promised to change the way things work in Washington. And, yet, his spokesman --

MR. McCLELLAN: And he has.

Q -- and, yet, his spokesman is saying that there's no internal, even, questioning of whether or not people were involved in this and he's just letting that be handled at the Justice Department, and letting it be more of a criminal investigation, as opposed to almost an ethical --

MR. McCLELLAN: Dana, I mean, think about what you're asking. If you have specific information to bring to our attention --

Q No, but you say that --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- that suggests White House involvement. There are anonymous reports all the time in the media. The President has set high standards, the highest of standards for people in his administration. He's made it very clear to people in his administration that he expects them to adhere to the highest standards of conduct. If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration.

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10 June 2004 Press Conference
QUESTION: Given -- given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President Cheney's discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, a suggestion that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leaked the agent's name?

THE PRESIDENT: That's up to --

QUESTION: And, and, do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. And that's up to the U.S. Attorney to find the facts.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Gee, shall I take the word of this guy over here, who has no apparent motive for dishonesty prior to an attack on his wife....

Or shall I take the word of a pack of dishonest, vote-rigging, lying, cheating, no-bid-contract, fake intel, faux news, fearmongering usurpers who've already been proven to have no respect for the public or the law.

Oh golly gee whiz, that's a hard choice, lemme think about it
-Frem

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The point is that Wilson lied. He lied that it was Cheney who had suggested that he ( Joe Wilson ) be tapped to head over to Niger in the 1st place. Cheney did no such thing.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I said Bush administration, not just Bush. So apologize at your leisure.

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now post their apologies to President Bush here for all to see

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Bush admits to secret CIA prisons

September 6th, 2006

George Bush has acknowledged for the first time the existence of previously secret CIA prisons around the world where key al-Qaeda suspects have been held and questioned.

The US president said his country’s security depended on information obtained from prisoners held there - who include some of those responsible for the September 11 attacks.

“It has been necessary to move these individuals to an environment where they can be held in secret, questioned by experts and, when appropriate, prosecuted for terrorist acts,” he said in a speech from the White House.

The CIA prisons have been a source of friction between Washington and other countries, including some allies in Europe.

The administration has also previously come under criticism for its treatment of ‘terror’ detainees.

European Union lawmakers have accused the CIA of conducting clandestine flights in Europe to take terror suspects to countries where they could face torture.

www.rinf.com/columnists/news/bush-admits-to-secret-cia-prisons

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As for Armitage, Libby, Rove - tell me, Ass-wrap, were they NOT part of the Administration? You mean you didn't know they were? No wonder you're such an ass.

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