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Originally posted by chrisisall:
that big horney dude over there *cringes*

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:

I've been watching too much Buffy.

I had to re-read that twice before I realized you (probably) weren't referring to a big guy with horns.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

Seriously though, where the hell are the Democrats???

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The White House's own recently de-classified strategy for "winning the war on terror" targets Internet conspiracy theories as a recruiting ground for terrorists and threatens to "diminish" their influence.

In addition, the Pentagon recently announced its effort to infiltrate the Internet and propagandize for the war on terror.

In a speech last month, Homeland Security director Michael Chertoff identified the web as a "terror training camp," through which "disaffected people living in the United States" are developing "radical ideologies and potentially violent skills."

Chertoff pledged to dispatch Homeland Security agents to local police departments in order to aid in the apprehension of domestic terrorists who use the Internet as a political tool. (written by Paul Watson)

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Interesting that so many people give total credence to an anonymous article which provides only a non-working link as support.

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"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?"
-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner, Gulag Archipelago (his latest book is 100% censored in the English language and in USA, for blaming genocidal Communism on the Khazarian "Jewish" Communists)
www.rense.com/general66/gulag.htm
www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=99868176

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey, I didn't see ppl give "total credence" to the post...

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Originally posted by Gladiator32:
That's shocking news, but somehow, I can see all western countries going this way. Goverments love to use terrorism etc. as an excuse for oppression and control...

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I like being a prisoner. Prisoners are safe.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think I called this one a long time ago, USA is becoming USSR. Not being able to leave is the first and most essential part of that plan. But thanks for the heads up.

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Originally posted by rue:
I can see it now - if you want to leave the US you MUST be a disaffected person, therefore you cannot travel !

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
This is no doubt welcome news for 'coyotes'. Now they can make profitable runs in both directions.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hmmm, well IMHO Chrisisall, Rue, and SargeX were joking

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Accordingly, with this proposed
rule, CBP is proposing two transmission options for air carriers to
select from at their discretion: (i) the submission of complete
manifests no later than 60 minutes prior to departure or (ii)
transmitting passenger data as individual, real-time transactions,
i.e., as each passenger checks in, up to but no later than 15 minutes
prior to departure. Under both options, the carrier will not permit the
boarding of a passenger unless the passenger has been cleared by CBP.

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Originally posted by rue:
Of note is the fact that changes to passenger rules were enacted 8 days after September 11, 2001, meaning they were already drafted. I'd read the USPatriot Act was all ready to go before 9/11, but this is the first time I've come across other legislation that was pre-drafted.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
By placing the burden on the individual ... it makes it easier to use the occasionally scrambled "no fly" list much much more freely.

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Now I have to get a passport?

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Originally posted by rue:
Of note is the fact that changes to passenger rules were enacted 8 days after September 11, 2001, meaning they were already drafted.

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...it's the latest ratchet by the Bush administration in its clampdown on freedom.

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