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Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms

By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
Washington Post
Wednesday, December 6, 2006; Page C01



Mary Cheney, the vice president's openly gay daughter, is pregnant. She and her partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, are "ecstatic" about the baby, due in late spring, said a source close to the couple.

It's a baby boom for grandparents Dick and Lynne Cheney: Their older daughter, Elizabeth, went on leave as deputy assistant secretary of state before having her fifth child in July. "The vice president and Mrs. Cheney are looking forward with eager anticipation to the arrival of their sixth grandchild," spokesman Lea Anne McBride said last night.

Cheney, 37, was a key aide to her father during the 2004 reelection campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. Poe, 45, a former park ranger, is renovating their Great Falls home.

News of the pregnancy will undoubtedly reignite the debate about gay marriage. During the campaign, Mary Cheney was criticized by gay activists for not being more publicly supportive of same-sex marriage. Her father said people "ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to" but deferred to the president's policy supporting a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages. Cheney herself called the proposed amendment "a gross affront to gays and lesbians everywhere" in her book, "Now It's My Turn: A Daughter's Chronicle of Political Life," which was published in May.

Cheney has described her relationship with Poe -- whom she took to last year's White House dinner honoring Prince Charles and Camilla -- as a marriage. The two met in 1988 while playing ice hockey and began dating four years later. They moved from Colorado to Virginia a year ago to be closer to Cheney's family. In an interview with the Post six months ago, when asked if she and Poe wanted children, Cheney said that was a "conversation I think I should have with Heather first."

In November, Virginia voters passed a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and civil unions; state law is unclear on whether Poe could have full legal rights as a parent of Cheney's child. The circumstances of the pregnancy will remain private, said the source close to the couple. This is the first child for both.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/05/AR20061205017
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See also:

Novelist Lynn Cheney's lesbian love novels: SISTERS
www.whitehouse.org/administration/sisters.asp

Gay Old Pervert Party parties nekked at homosexual Boehmian Grove
http://piratenews.org/bohemian-grove-page1.html

Dick Cheney's history of pedophile rape and hunting nekked women and nekked little girls in The Most Dangerous Game:
http://piratenews.org/video-archive.html

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Cuckoo bird

Cuckoos are birds of variable size with slender bodies, long tails and strong legs. Most occur in forests, but some prefer more open country. Many of the Old World species and some New World species are brood parasites, laying their eggs in the nests of other birds. The best-known example is the European Common Cuckoo. The cuckoo egg hatches earlier than the host's, and the cuckoo chick grows faster; in most cases the chick evicts (murders) the eggs or young of the host species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckoo

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The story is great. The thread topic is offensive and unfortunate, though.

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
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Homosexuals are born that way, not made.

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Homosexuals are born that way, not made.

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Tell that to Johnny Gosch aka Jeff Gannan aka James Guckert aka Bulldog. So you consider kidnap rape victims to be a "volunteers"? It's torture-based mind control brainwashing.
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Dick Cheney is a pedophile bisexual rapist, serial killer, terrorist traitor and war criminal. His wife is a lesbian. They love raping little kids in Abu Ghraib, for snuff kiddie porn video in the White House. They are a family of dangerous career criminals who belong in jail on Death Row.

Why do you think they love homosexuality so much? That's called a CLUE.


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Dick Cheney is a pedophile bisexual rapist, serial killer, terrorist traitor and war criminal. His wife is a lesbian. They love raping little kids in Abu Ghraib, for snuff kiddie porn video in the White House. They are a family of dangerous career criminals who belong in jail on Death Row.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Let me first state that I am not laying judgement on homosexuality in the least here. I myself have a gay friend and I've even gone to the club with him a couple of years ago. One of our lady friends came with so it made it easier for me to tag along. All I can say is I wish the ladies paid as much attention to me and I got as many looks from them at the regular bars as I had guys checkin me out that night. I probably wouldn't be such a miserable all the time then.

Just putting my two cents in though... I don't buy for a second that homosexuality is genetic, no matter what anyone says. That's never been proven, and it's just another way for people to not take responsibility for their choices and actions in life. I don't think any man or woman has gone through life without fleeting sexual thoughts about the same sex at one time or another. I believe that the Christians would call this a form of temptation. It is or was, however, their own choice to bring these thoughts into their own reality. Homosexuality, for better or for worse, is purely derived from your environment and your own life choices.

Like I said... being a crusader for freedom of choice and freedom of speech I would never condemn somebody on their choices. Good for you if you're gay. Good for you if you're straight. But let me ask you something... If somebody were to be gay and to be proud of it, wouldn't you rather think them proud for making a choice rather than just being the random product of rolling the dice?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack]

You haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about. Perhaps you should stick to topics you have knowledge about. I happen to live with a gay male. He was born that way, he didn't choose it. Who in their right mind would choose to be something that most of the rest of society treats as less than human?


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What do you think happens to gay kids? If your heterosexuality is genetic, what went wrong with the gay kids?

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I would like for you to point out to me where, if at all, I said that something "went wrong" with them.

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I would like to thank Piratenews.

With all the partisan bickering and flat-out hostility that permeates this Real World Discussion fourm - at least we can all (well, most of us) come together and agree on one thing:

Piratenews is a tool.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
He wasn't born that way, and just because you or him say that he was doesn't make it true. Thanks for replying again though FMF. As always, your input is good for a laugh.


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And your input shows, once again, that you are completely full of and a pompous . MY CHILD was born gay. He has known he was gay since he was 8. He didnt choose it, it chose him.




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Piratenews is a tool.

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Drunk Dick Cheney shoots Republican trial lawyer in head
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1609790


TRANCE FORMATION OF AMERICA: The Most Dangerous Game

by Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips
www.trance-formation.com

Uncle Bob was a pilot in Air Force intelligence and boasted he worked for the Vatican, and was also a commercial pornographer, producing kiddie porn for the Michigan Mafia, which looped back to Mafia porn king and US Representative, and unelected US president, Jerry Ford (born/aka Leslie Lynch King Jr [a Jewish name]). My father also was involved in drug sales.

My father was caught sending kiddie porn through the US mail - a beastiality film of me with my Uncle Sam's boxer dog. Uncle Bob, implicated in manuafacturing the porn, informed my father of a US Government Defense Intelligence Agency TOP SECRET Project - Project Monarch. Monarch was recruiting multigenerational incest abused children with Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD/DID) for its mind-control studies. I was a 'prime candidate' a 'CHOSEN ONE'. My father seized the opporunity for immunity from prosecution. In the midst of this pandemonium, Jerry Ford arrived at our house. Ford went inside to seal my fate....

Dick Cheney, then White House chief of staff to President Ford, later secretary of defense to president George Bush Sr, member of Council on Foreign Relations Corporation (CFR), was Wyoming's only congressman. Cheney was the reason my family traveled to Wyoming where I endured yet another form of brutality, his version of 'The Most Dangerous Game', or human hunting.

A Most Dangerous Game was devised to condition military personnel in survival and combat maneuvers. Yet it was used on me and other slaves as a means of conditioning the mind that there was no place to hide, as well as to traumatize the victim for programming. The primary theme was being stripped naked and turned loose in the wilderness while being hunted by men and dogs. It was only a matter of time until I was caught, repeatedly raped, and tortured.

Dick Cheney had an addiction to the thrill of the sport. He was obsessed with traumatizing mind-control victims, as well as to satisfy his own perverse sexual kinks. My introlduction to the game occurred upon arrival at the hunting lodge near Greybull, Wyoming, and it physically and psychologically devastated me. I stood naked in his hunting lodge office after being hunted down and caught. Cheney was talking as he paced around me, 'I could stuff you and mount you like a jackolope and call you a two legged dear. Or I could stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis) right down your throat, and then mount you. Which do you prefer?'

'You don't get a choice anyway, I make up your mind for you. That's why you're here. For me to make you a mind, and make you mine/mind. You lost your mind a long time ago. Now I'm going to give you one. Just like the Wizard of Oz [AUStralia] gave Scarecrow a brain, the Yellow Brick Road led you here to me.'

Cheney's face turned red with rage. He was on me in an instant, slamming my back into the wall with one arm across my chest and his hand on my throat choking me while applying pressure to the coratid artery in my neck with his thumb. His eyes bulged and he spit as he growled, 'If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you - Kill you - with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddamn well please.' He flung me on the cot-type bed and finished taking out his rage on me sexually....

George Bush Sr stood up and took my 6-year-old daughter Kelly by the hand. 'C'mon. Let me show you the Neighborhood.' Kelly became violently ill after her induction into George Bush's 'Neighborhood', and from every sexual encounter she had with him thereafter. She ran 106-degree temperatures, vomited and endured immobilizing headaches for three days, as evidence of high-voltage trauma and scarring burns. Her rectum usually bled for a day or two after Bush sexually abused her. My own mind-control victimization rendered me unable to protect her. Seeing my own child in such horrible condition drove my own wedge of insanity deeper, until our rescure by Mark Phillips in 1988.

Like his ultra-secret Pentagon Bunkhouse, use of leather was in abundance. Heroin, Bush's drug of choice, was in abundance, and Cheney joined him in using it. The smorgasborg of drugs included opium, cocaine, and Wonderland Wafers (MDMHA-XYC aka Ecstacy). I had seen Cheney stumbling drunk before, but this was the only time I saw him use heroin. Kelly too, was subjected to the drugs.

Bush attempted to sell Cheney on pedophilia through graphic descriptions of sex with Kelly. Both were sexaully aroused from drugs and anticipation. Cheney demonstrated to Bush why he did not have sex with kids by exposing himself to Kelly and saying 'Come here'. Kelly reeled back in horror and said 'No!' which made them both laugh. Bush got up and took Kelly to the bedroom....

'Well, Kitten,' Ronald Reagan said to me, 'this is your death sentence. You'll go out in a blaze of glory.' I had heard about death by fire from everyone involved in 'free trade' through Mexico, of our nation's children for drugs. I had witnessed the criminal foundations of NAFTA, which in turn could threaten the foundation of the New World Order should these secrets ever be revealed. 'Free Trade' included drugs and white slavery. It routed traumatized, robotic, mind-controlled children to Saudi Arabia, while building weapons stockpiles in Nicaragua and Iraq. I was nearly 'used up' anyway, and recording my death via 'snuff film' was agreed upon as proof to Mexican president de la Madrid and other leaders at risk, that I had indeed been silenced by death.

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"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. It's terrible! I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco. It's a different set of values, that has been induced into that. I don't mind the homosexuality. I understand it. Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddammit, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates. You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France. Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. I don't know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality, are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They're trying to destroy us. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this."
-President "Tricky" Dick Nixon, Bohemian Club member who worships Molech/Satan at Jewish Bohemian Grove homosexual nudist compound, White House hidden audiotape, May 13, 1971
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To say that homosexuality is genetic is like saying that homosexuality is a genetic flaw such as Downs Syndrome or Sicle Cell disease and I think that THAT would be much more offensive.

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And I really don't understand what you mean by saying that I said "...gays lack something that hetrosexuals have". Physically, we're exactly the same is what I've said. If anything, I'm saying that homosexuals neither possess anything less nor anything extra than hetrosexuals do.

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There are many reasons one could turn to homosexuality in life, and I won't go into them here because there are many psychology books that you could pick up which could give you case studies on this and do a much better job describing these than I ever could here.

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I am under the belief that even the most hard-core homophobic hetrosexuals have it in them to be homosexual. Quite possibly it is their own fear of that, say the embarassing hardon they got in the locker room when they were in highschool, that is enough to make them act out so vehemently against homosexuality in the first place.

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I really don't imagine it will be too much longer than that that you will actually see men walking women down the street on leashes and vice-versa... but that will probably be reserved for cities in California for a while before it too becomes a little more mainstream. I already know one woman in California who does this, but I won't be leaving her name here. I will say, however, that Dave Attell did stop her and talk to her on the street while she was walking one of her "pets" on a leash on his show Insomniac a few years back. We've all got kinks... None of them are genetic.

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So, I guess what I'm saying is that not a single person in the world is more genetically predisposed to homosexual tendancies than another.

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To say that homosexuality is genetic is like saying that homosexuality is a genetic flaw such as Downs Syndrome or Sicle Cell disease and I think that THAT would be much more offensive.

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I'm sure that certain individuals in the past who were interested in racial cleansing would revel in the fact that homosexuality was genetic and the knowledge that they would be able to eradicate homosexuality simply by eliminating all of the homosexuals in existance.

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Too many people on these boards are willing to give up much of their freedom of thought and choice to the government because of the unfounded notion that government is better at deciding what is good for us than we are.

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Now you would have us give more of that free will away to genetics? I guess that would be nice... not having to be responsible for any of our actions, wouldn't it?

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I chose to be right-handed at a very early age, like almost everyone else. My oldest sibling OTOH perversely chose to be left-handed early-on despite all the scolding and awkwardness it earned. And proudly continues with that choice decades later.

I hope that clears things up.

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I chose to be right-handed at a very early age, like almost everyone else. My oldest sibling OTOH perversely chose to be left-handed early-on despite all the scolding and awkwardness it earned. And proudly continues with that choice decades later.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I choose to believe that homosexuality is a choice because I choose to believe that anything that we do is our choice. Those of you who have agreed or argued with me on other threads before should have picked up on the pattern that I've never waivered from that stance once on any thread in here. This has nothing to do with my viewpoint on Homosexuality, and I would think that those who know me would know by now that I am 100% behind anybody who chooses that lifestyle.

I do not buy into anybody being a slave to ones genetics. Genetics is simply a cop out, a means for somebody who, for whatever reason, feels ashamed of the choices they're making by blaming them on their chromosomes. This train of thought will only lead us to a world where we are all taking pills to deal with our problems and I'm 100% against mood/behavioral altering pills.

Back when we owned black slaves in America, a majority white people truly believed they were superior over black people. You all know this, as I'm assuming you all went to school. Nobody in here comes off as stupid or uneducated to me. Obviously, this belief that blacks were inferior was nonsense, but many black slaves who had been treated that way all of their lives and grew up watching thier parents treated that way bought into that train of thought as well. Some, who were treated decently, even went as far as to love their "Masters". This was years of mental and physical conditioning (one would imagine even sexual conditioning in some cases) and external stimuli, having nothing at all to do with genetics. Aside from the color of their skin dictating, in the public eye at the time, that they would be one of the slave class, there was no genetic code which made them inferior any way. This slavery was not a direct effect of thier genetics, but an indirect effect steming from their outside stimuli.

Take some responsibility for your choices and actions. Be loud and proud about them. Don't walk through life believing that choices you make are just things you do because you can't help yourself. That is pathetic. I have no distain for someone who is gay. I do however hold contempt for anyone who believes that they are what they are, no matter what that is, due to circumstances out of their control.

And since we are being so honest here... I'll just say that I would imagine that many of you would be afraid to delve into the darkness of my sexual realm. There is no way any of you could even come close to guessing my sexual tendancies. Homosexuality is pure vanilla compared to the kinks I have running around in my head. I would be 100% hypocritical if I were to sit back and lay any judgement on the choices that a homosexual has made. I don't think I've ever once painted myself out to be any kind of saint who can lay judgement on others. After reading my last post, did anybody bother to ask themselves why I would even know of a woman who lives 2,000 miles from me who takes men for walks on all fours with barely any clothes and a leash? I've been places and seen things that many of you have never even dreamed about before. I've been D, I've been s. Though everything has always been legal, consentual & between adults, I'd be lying if I said I was proud of it all, but that's part of the attraction and the fun. However, I refuse to blame this on genetics. This is my choice, and the deeper I get involved, the further away I am from the person I use to be. The person who a normal, vanilla relationship was good enough for. Which, again, is purely conditioning which I chose, and continue to choose to endure.

So FMF.... tell me about your gay son or friend again.

To say any of this is genetic, would be ammo for any politician with an agenda to try to stamp "controvercial" sexual behavior out completely, and if it is genetics, they could probably do that with drugs. I gather nobody in here believes that homosexuality is a disease, with the exception of one who's name needs no mentioning. Is it really so hard to imagine a real life scenario where after having successfully forced vaccinations upon us, we have pills or shots forced on us to ensure no "unconventional" sexual desires in our minds? This is all I meant by the comments about a fasist trying to eradicate homosexuality. It certainly wasn't a fantasy of mine or some such nonsense somebody mentioned earlier.

By the way "too many people" in this context was refering to you, and anybody who thinks like you do. I would think that was very apparent, in fact I know without a doubt that you knew very well who I was refering to. You do such an excellent job infering from my other comments, so dazzle me with that amazing intellect and do us both a favor and never bother me with such a petty question again.

I must say though, I do have respect your ability to tell a bunch of people you barely know about your masturbation addiction, even if it is a thing of the past. I'm not sure if that was justified in your mind as a price to pay in order to win an arguement with me. Whatever the reason, it was pretty courageous. I tip my hat to ya.

It is apparent that everyone is cemented in their beliefs here, and I'm not in a maschochistic mood right now, so I feel no need to continue on this thread. This topic isn't all that important to me compared to others in this forum, other than the ideals of freedom of choice, wheather it be freedom from governmental control or the ill-informed belief that we are slaves to our chromosomes.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack]


So because you say so, and because you know everything to know about everything, we should all just follow in with your thinking? Yeah right. It must be really nice to be the only one in the world that knows anything.


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I do not buy into anybody being a slave to ones genetics. Genetics is simply a cop out, a means for somebody who, for whatever reason, feels ashamed of the choices they're making by blaming them on their chromosomes. This train of thought will only lead us to a world where we are all taking pills to deal with our problems and I'm 100% against mood/behavioral altering pills.

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One very common instance of animal homosexuality is when the dominant Alpha male gets the pick of the best females, the lesser males are left with a much smaller pool of females, if any at all, to choose from and often revert to homosexuality out of little or no other way to satisfy that deep seeded instinctual urge. I believe that this is very well the case in some of the instances of human homosexuality.

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Wow! This post has been liberating!

I'm not in control of anything I do, because it's going to happen without my consent anyhow. I shall feel no guilt about the consequences that arise out of this knowledge.



....Obviously I'm not a big fan of Government, but sometimes it's a good thing there is a government keeping people in line who really believe they have no control over their actions.

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