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Congenial Bush Offends Yet Again

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Friday, March 9, 2007 8:31 AM

i can feel a chill in the Temple....

from AP via Huff Po

Mayan Priests To Purify Site Of "Bad Spirits" After Bush Visit

AP | JUAN CARLOS LLORCA | March 9, 2007 09:11 AM

Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits" after
President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.

"That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture," Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 10:14 AM

SERGEANTX

The should offer up services to cities and towns in the US. I'm sure a lot of folks would pay them to delouse their communities after Bush makes a visit.

SergeantX

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Friday, March 9, 2007 10:38 AM

DAYVE

could be a cottage industry... maybe i should apply for a patent!

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Friday, March 9, 2007 11:35 AM

DAYVE

Ya know, it’s painfully obvious – at least to some – that our president has all the tact of a bug. I really don’t like having to complain about the guy so much, but he is the nations figurehead and as such I believe he should conduct himself with a little dignity.

Remember the time he couldn’t find the exit at a press conference in Beijing, or cursing with a mouth full of food while talking to Tony Blair at last year’s G-8 Summit, and at the same Summit trying to forcibly give Germanys Chancellor Merkel a backrub (she reacted like someone had just put an octopus down her blouse), or how about “Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

And then there’s the time he mangled a G chord on a guitar during the New Orleans disaster - there is an endless string of gaffs by the man who represents our country abroad, but the pièce de résistance has to be reading “My Pet Goat” during the 9-11 attacks.

Ok I can hear you now, “that’s just petty and vindictive”… but I actually feel embarrassed for him at times and a little sorry for him too, but when you think about it, is it really so hard to understand why he, (and the United States by association), has such an unpopular standing in other countries.

Some of you will say these things don’t matter and that this is just sour grapes, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, (as I am mine - which is all this is), but I honestly think dignity and at least some semblance of intelligence are important to the office of the president.

In a few months there will be a change (can’t come too soon for me), and I for one hope that whoever is elected, at the very least, doesn’t drop his dog while the cameras are rolling.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 12:45 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Are you saying that you can hardly wait for Bush to do some bush clearing? (yeah, lame ... but it's Friday)

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Friday, March 9, 2007 1:05 PM

CAUSAL

I blame the Bush administration, myself.

Oh, wait; we're already doing that. Well, carry on.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 1:42 PM

DAYVE

how weird would that be... running into GW at the Feed Store over in Crawford or in Waco.. (I actually own property about 50 miles from his ranch)....

"Hey George.. how's it hanging? Picking up some range cubes for that fine livestock..? oh yeah, you only raise mesquite trees - and just so you can have something to chop down, right?... I totally agree with you that a pre-emptive brush clearing was well within your authority as El Patron of Rancho Busho.. you are the brush clearing decider, no doubt.."

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Friday, March 9, 2007 4:09 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

I've never heard of this much Presidental bashing since Nixon. Course back then you COULD bash the president and not be called a terrorist.

Suddenly my own country doesn't look as bad.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 4:16 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Reminds me of a line from Emma - Mr Knightly is talking about one of the other men and he says something like - "I can not like him, he ofends me"

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Friday, March 9, 2007 7:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
"That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture," Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

Well..... I quite enjoy a Bush bash, but I was a little disappointed when I got here. This guy is pretty much full of shit. All it takes is one majorly erronius statement and the complete thought gets tossed out the window. I'm all for his comment about Bushole provoking wars, but if anything he's been better to illegal mexicans than any president we've ever had. The silent invasion progresses as we speak and nobody does anything about it, aside from the one or two stories that will pop up here and there about factory workers being rounded up and sent back to placate the masses who are pissed off about illegals getting free healthcare and not paying into Social Security and FED tax. Boo Hoo..... If you want to be a citizen, get in line like the rest of the world does and how my great grandparents did.

If Bush, or any politicians for that matter, were at all serious about keeping illegals out, they would have rounded up the lot of them and shipped them back when they protested in the streets and shut cities down months ago. It's not as if they didn't have two weeks advance notice to prepare for that.

I still think Bush is an asshole, in this instance, for the exact opposite reason Mr. Tiney says.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 8:11 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
"That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture," Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

Yep, this is pretty stupid.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, March 9, 2007 9:06 PM

SOUPCATCHER

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
If you want to be a citizen, get in line like the rest of the world does and how my great grandparents did.

I'm not sure going back to a policy that was in place when your great-grandparents emigrated would meet with your approval. We pretty much had open borders up until 1917 (unless you were ethnic Chinese - who had been excluded from any immigration with the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act). Up until 1917, the basic requirement was that you were healthy (oh, and not an anarchist agitator after 1901). In 1917 a literacy requirement was added, the first quotas start showing up in 1921 and then all immigration got shut down during the Depression.

So, if your great-grandparents got here before 1917, they passed the physical and came on in. Now we could revert to that policy and just start giving physicals on the border. But something tells me that the vast majority of Americans wouldn't go for that.

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Friday, March 9, 2007 11:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Real good point SoupCatcher. I wish I knew more about my family. I'm only 27 myself and my Grandparents met in the 40's, so it is entirely possible they came after 1917, but I really couldn't say. It would have been right around that time I suppose.

I definately think that learning to at least speak and understand English should be a requirement. Why should we have to change everything here to cater to them if they want to get here so badly? Also they should be able to read enough to sufficiently read our street and warning signs and such so we don't find ourselves with speed limit signs in 8 different languages someday.

I was a a home depot a few years ago. It happens to be in a neighborhood which has slowly become a prodominantly mexican neighborhood over the last 20 or so years. I bought a preassembled glass block window. It had tear away instructions below them which were fasened to the bulk racks by two twist ties, making it impossible to spin around so the other side on top. Take a guess which language this english/spanish instruction booklet was facing the top.

I nearly flipped my lid. I gave the manager a good piece of my mind and told him that I'd never shop in his home depot again, and I'm forced now to drive 30 minutes out of my way whenever I do some work on my Grandma's now because I will never shop in the Home Depot 5 minutes from her house again.

Nope... I think that illegals have thrived during this administration.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:29 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked

Umm... Bush has been the illegal's best friend! He's done just about everything EXCEPT persecute 'the migrant worker'. Wars ? That'd be ONE war, I believe. I don't care who you are, no one can deny our legitimate right to invade Afghanistan. That's above all reproach. You want to bicker about Iraq ? Fair enough. But not t'other.

Weren't the Mayans the folks who engaged in human sacrifice ?

Quote:
So, apparently the Mayans weren't this peaceful, almost serene people that the 19th century scientists first thought. Learning from the hieroglyphs and archaeological legwork, the disposition of the ancient Mayan had to be revaluated. The Mayan society was a strict theocratic hierarchy, where the priests held great power for their connection with the gods. Warfare did play an essential part of Mayan society, and yes, they did practice human sacrifice. It is believed that they sacrificed captured enemy warriors and ball players as well as people of their own tribe, going willingly to the World of the Gods. Many offerings and sacrifices, human and others, have been found in cenotes, the fresh water sinkholes found throughout the Yucatán

I think they've got a few hundred years purifying their OWN bad spirits before they fret over their great white brothers to the North.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:27 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
That'd be ONE war, I believe.

Iraq was a war, ergo thats TWO wars, plural.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:32 AM

KHYRON

I think he meant one war that was controversial (one that Bush "provoked").

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:33 AM

CITIZEN

It's not at all clear with in the context of the post nor what he is replying to.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:43 AM

KHYRON

Not that I feel a need to defend AURaptor or anything, but I hate it when arguments get started because of miscommunication, so here's the way I saw it:

Mayan priests: Bush provoked wars.
AURaptor: Maybe he started one war, but the other one (Afghanistan) was legitimate. Hence no plural.

I happen to think AURaptor's right on this one, and I also think those comments by the priests make them seem like nothing more but media-seekers.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:45 AM

CITIZEN

fair enough, wasn't how I read it, but I can see that now.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:51 AM

KONEKOKEITA

Typically, isn't all a country have to do these days is bash Bush and they get into the media?

I'm not going to hop into this whole political thing...he'll be out soon anyway, and the country is still here, as far as I know, so all in all, I don't care. But really, isn't bashing Bush kinda...uncool now? It seems like everyone I know and their mother has not only an unkind word, but a whole freaking political speech about everything he's done bad for our country. I admit, he has no tact, no grace, and an IQ that wouldn't make a decent earthquake...but I just wish people would move on to new topics. Again, no offense to anyone here, I'm just stating my opinion when it comes to the subject in general.

So...cookies, anyone?

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:25 AM

SOUPCATCHER

Quote:
Originally posted by KonekoKeita:
But really, isn't bashing Bush kinda...uncool now?

It is always the right of the employees to complain about the shortcomings of management.

There's not much you can do when you're at the bottom. When management shows no sign of learning from past mistakes and seems determined to make additional mistakes and you know that the people who pay for those mistakes will be you and all the people you know one of the few things you do have control over is bitching.

And you want people to stop doing that?

It's the, "Shut up and take it like a man." school of thought. Or the, "Thank you sir, may I have another." I could probably throw something in there about an absence of vaseline but I think you get the point.

Sorry, Homey don't play that.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:28 AM

RIVER6213

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Quote:
Originally posted by KonekoKeita:
But really, isn't bashing Bush kinda...uncool now?

It is always the right of the employees to complain about the shortcomings of management.

There's not much you can do when you're at the bottom. When management shows no sign of learning from past mistakes and seems determined to make additional mistakes and you know that the people who pay for those mistakes will be you and all the people you know one of the few things you do have control over is bitching.

And you want people to stop doing that?

It's the, "Shut up and take it like a man." school of thought. Or the, "Thank you sir, may I have another." I could probably throw something in there about an absence of vaseline but I think you get the point.

Sorry, Homey don't play that.

Well said

-River

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:38 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:

Or the, "Thank you sir, may I have another."

I know that that's an old English public school thing, but it's also an American frat house , pledge week thing. And that fits my estimate of GWB perfectly.
He got into Harvard ? Yale? wherever it was? as a legacy-- because of who his parents were, not because of any ability of his own.

He's the kind of guy who wouldda hung out on the lawn of the frat house, with a keg of beer, beating the pledges, and making the freshmen write his papers and either take his exams for him , or give him crib sheets with the answers on 'em.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
I don't care who you are, no one can deny our legitimate right to invade Afghanistan. That's above all reproach. You want to bicker about Iraq ? Fair enough. But not t'other.

Yes, there are 2 wars, genius, but only 1 which is debatable as to why we're in it. One, you see, isn't, because we were attacked first. So that can't be blamed on Bush. So sorry if you didn't catch that the 1st time. I'll try to type slower for you next time. Hope that helps.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:34 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, there are 2 wars, genius, but only 1 which is debatable as to why we're in it. One, you see, isn't, because we were attacked first. So that can't be blamed on Bush. So sorry if you didn't catch that the 1st time. I'll try to type slower for you next time. Hope that helps.

Ok that was called for, I never attacked you personally. More over I have absolutly no doubt that my IQ is far in excess of yours.

You wonder why people call you troll? I mean seriously, you wonder? I'll type the word slower for you. You AURaptor, you are a T-R-O-L-L. Back to ignoring you troll boy.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:11 PM

HERO

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
Mayan Priests To Purify Site Of "Bad Spirits" After Bush Visit

Ironically the cerimony included human sacrifice and some feathered snakes.

H

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:28 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, there are 2 wars, genius, but only 1 which is debatable as to why we're in it. One, you see, isn't, because we were attacked first. So that can't be blamed on Bush. So sorry if you didn't catch that the 1st time. I'll try to type slower for you next time. Hope that helps.
Ok that was called for, I never attacked you personally. More over I have absolutly no doubt that my IQ is far in excess of yours.

You wonder why people call you troll? I mean seriously, you wonder? I'll type the word slower for you. You AURaptor, you are a T-R-O-L-L. Back to ignoring you troll boy.

I plainly stated initially in my post that 1 war was debatable, and not the other. I mentioned BOTH wars, and you only caught one. You jumped to conclusions, as was clearly shown. Please, do us all a favor and do start ignoring me. [/qutoe]

Quote:

CITIZEN
He who arrives at a conclusion by faith cannot be moved by reason Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 11:33

It's not at all clear with in the context of the post nor what he is replying to.

Umm, yeah it was very clear. Sorry you didn't catch it, even after your 2nd post. What am i to conclude from that ?

Right... Troll. *lol*

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:31 PM

CITIZEN

I will do after mentioning one more thing, please do us all a favor and stay on the buffy threads and away from here, we have enough with Kaneman, thank you very much.

And as for you admonishing someone for jumping to conclusions, thats laughable. If you'd like to grow as a person have a look at how Khyron handled the exact same concepts in reply that you did, and spot the differences. The differences are why you act consistently like a troll.

Good bye.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:36 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
I will do after mentioning one more thing, please do us all a favor and stay on the buffy threads and away from here, we have enough with Kaneman, thank you very much.

And as for you admonishing someone for jumping to conclusions, thats laughable. If you'd like to grow as a person have a look at how Khyron handled the exact same concepts in reply that you did, and spot the differences. The differences are why you act consistently like a troll.

Good bye.

So much for ignoring 'troll boy', eh?

I have reviewed your request to stay away, and declined the offer.

Hey citizen...don't go away mad, just go away!

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:38 PM

CITIZEN

I'm sorry everyone, I made the mistake once and look where it got me. I urge all not to make the same mistakes I did, and please for your own sake, please Ignore the trolls.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
I'm sorry everyone, I made the mistake once and look where it got me. I urge all not to make the same mistakes I did, and please for your own sake, please Ignore the trolls.

Sheesh, Francis. Lighten up. You're begining to give me a puppet master complex. Your strings can't be THAT easily pulled now, can they?

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:57 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Ironically the cerimony included human sacrifice and some feathered snakes. H

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Ok I know this is a serious discussion but that right there made me laugh. Thank God I wasn't drinking anything. Tee hee thanks for the laugh Hero.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:15 PM

KHYRON

Yeah, every now and again Hero comes up with something really funny. That one was pretty good.

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Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:54 PM

SOUPCATCHER

Continuing on with the Central/South America trip theme...

Okay, Rising Hegemon may have labeled this post, "They're in Columbia. Do I really need to caption this?" I say yes.

Scroll down for the photo in question (although the header photo is good as well - I'm guessing the same Euro parade that had Clinton groping Lady Liberty).
http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2007/03/theyre-in-columbiado-i-real
ly-need-to.html
Here's my take.

Laura: Coffee! How very nice.

George: *damn*

Blue-Tie Dude: But you can put your weed in there.

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Monday, March 12, 2007 10:46 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

First it was Gibson and now Bush. Who will find themselves in the crosshairs next in the build-up to 2012?

Posting to stir stuff up.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Iraq was a war, ergo thats TWO wars, plural.

Sorry Cit.... your response here that started it was pretty trollish and I honestly don't believe that you misread the post. Nobody else did.... even people who you I'm sure you would waste no time in telling how superior your intelligence is if they happen to argue with you about anything. You seem to have been the agressor here and have tried repeatedly to get under Auraptors skin. I think it's funny that the people who most often accuse others of trollish behavior are guilty of the same. We hate in others that which we hate in ourselves they say.

And "ergo"..... wow man. True genius. When you use words like ergo that only brainiac douchebags use there's really no way to lose any argument. It's true, I've read it on Digg.

http://www.ece.ust.hk/~mchan/interest/jokes/argument.htm

Methinks you were looking for a fight and you got it. Congrats Cit, on shortening another life by making people so pissed off at you over nothing that their only recourse is to pull out their hair.... since they made it illegal to kill somebody just beacuse they're a pompus, self-righteous asshole.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:43 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Methinks you were looking for a fight and you got it. Congrats Cit, on shortening another life by making people so pissed off at you over nothing that their only recourse is to pull out their hair.... since they made it illegal to kill somebody just beacuse they're a pompus, self-righteous asshole.

It's like poetry. Ergo, vis-a-vis Cit is an asshole as it were. I like it. Shiney, super green, double plus good!

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Monday, March 19, 2007 10:49 AM

CITIZEN

Baby, Jack:

Where as you two never look for a fight. Thanks for elequently proving you both are much worse than me, since I never personally attacked anyone, where as you did.

Poetry indeed "We just have to jump into to say you're an arsehole", you guys give arsehole new definition, and indeed make me look meek mild and agreeable in comparision, thanks

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Hypocrite is the term.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:13 AM

KANEMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Iraq was a war, ergo thats TWO wars, plural.

Sorry Cit.... your response here that started it was pretty trollish and I honestly don't believe that you misread the post. Nobody else did.... even people who you I'm sure you would waste no time in telling how superior your intelligence is if they happen to argue with you about anything. You seem to have been the agressor here and have tried repeatedly to get under Auraptors skin. I think it's funny that the people who most often accuse others of trollish behavior are guilty of the same. We hate in others that which we hate in ourselves they say.

And "ergo"..... wow man. True genius. When you use words like ergo that only brainiac douchebags use there's really no way to lose any argument. It's true, I've read it on Digg.

http://www.ece.ust.hk/~mchan/interest/jokes/argument.htm

Methinks you were looking for a fight and you got it. Congrats Cit, on shortening another life by making people so pissed off at you over nothing that their only recourse is to pull out their hair.... since they made it illegal to kill somebody just beacuse they're a pompus, self-righteous asshole.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

I agree. This is the most honest post I have ever read on this board. Kudos Jack. In my opinion CitZ is about as pleasant as vaginal discharge. And his "I never personally attacked anyone" is a fucking joke...What an asshole......

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