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atleast 20 killed in campus shooting at Virginia Tech
Monday, April 16, 2007 7:18 AM
FEITY
Monday, April 16, 2007 7:35 AM
KANEMAN
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:06 AM
SHINYED
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:08 AM
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:10 AM
RIVERISMYGODDESS
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:18 AM
MALBADINLATIN
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: I love mass murder. Bet the gunman was Muslim or a gay liberal. Any takers....... even money!
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:19 AM
KHYRON
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:52 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: ...about your horse that had died after a lifetime of love...
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:56 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:59 AM
Monday, April 16, 2007 9:06 AM
Monday, April 16, 2007 9:38 AM
ALLIETHORN7
Monday, April 16, 2007 9:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: On a more serious note, this may be the dealiest mass shooting in American history. The death toll looks to be over thirty. You'd think somebody would have tackled him. Since they didn't it makes you wonder what he was packing to get so many so dead. H
Monday, April 16, 2007 9:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: Hey Kaneman...enough already...ok! Funny, just the other day or so you wrote quite a tender and moving post about your horse that had died after a lifetime of love....you really can't be the same person that writes all the other hateful demented shit here...right?
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:00 AM
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Kaneman can join his damn horse.. "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:05 AM
OZZYSUN
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:06 AM
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Ozzysun: What are the odds that we can keep this respectful. 32 kids were just gunned down in cold blood, lets not make it worse by bringing personal feuds into this thread.
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Wow, why such hate storymark? Do I actually bother you that much? I have an idea about ending any fued you seem to think we have. If you take just one of the dildos, that you keep rammed up ass, out. I won't give my opinions anymore....Deal?
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Quote:Originally posted by kaneman: Wow, why such hate storymark? Do I actually bother you that much? I have an idea about ending any fued you seem to think we have. If you take just one of the dildos, that you keep rammed up ass, out. I won't give my opinions anymore....Deal?
Monday, April 16, 2007 12:15 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote: "The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US." —Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, Life Extension Magazine, "Death by Medicine", March 2004 (plus 1.5-Million annual aborticides in USA) www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm
Quote: Four Hired Guns in an Armored Truck, Bullets Flying, and a Pickup and a Taxi Brought to a Halt. Who Did the Shooting and Why? On the afternoon of July 8, 2006, four private security guards rolled out of Baghdad's Green Zone in an armored SUV. The team leader, Jacob C. Washbourne, rode in the front passenger seat. He seemed in a good mood. His vacation started the next day. "I want to kill somebody today," Washbourne said, according to the three other men in the vehicle, who later recalled it as an offhand remark. Before the day was over, however, the guards had been involved in three shooting incidents. In one, Washbourne allegedly fired into the windshield of a taxi for amusement, according to interviews and statements from the three other guards. Washington Post, April 15, 2007 www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/four_hired_guns_in_armored_truck_who_did_shooting.htm
Quote: Originally posted by ShinyEd: This really is horrible! Is there something in the water supply that sets these men off to do these un-imaginable things? Whatever happenned to the Amish schoolhouse massacre?. ..I know the truck driver who did it killed himself in the end, but where are all the so-called "professionals" solutions and/or explanations? Suicidality in Children and Adolescents — Antidepressants increased the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in short-term studies in children and adolescents with major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. It is designated (±)-N-methyl-3-phenyl-3-[(a,a,a-trifluoro-p-tolyl)oxy]propylamine hydrochloride and has the empirical formula of C17H18F3NO•HCl. www.prozac.com Fed woman: It's the Pax. The G-Paxilon Hydroclorate that we added to the air processors. It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression. Well, it works. The people here stopped fighting. And then they stopped everything else. They stopped going to work... they stopped breeding, talking, eating. There's 30-million people here, and they all just let themselves die. (smashing down door) (whine, wimper) I have to be quick. About a tenth of a percent of... the population had the opposite reaction to the Pax. Their aggressor response increased beyond madness. They have become... (smashing down door) Well, they've killed most of us. And not just killed... they've done things. Wash: Reavers. They made them. Fed woman: I won't live to report this, but people have to know. We meant it for the best... to make people safer. (Reavers growling) God! (Fed woman screaming) (Reaver munching) PAXIL HCL is an agent in a class of antidepressant medication known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). It is effective and generally well tolerated and has successfully helped people treat their depression, social anxiety disorder, premenstrual dysphoric disorder, and panic disorder. www.paxil.com PAXIL HCL - SIDE EFFECTS: Homicidal and suicidal tendencies. Allergic reaction, chills, face edema, malaise, neck pain; rare: Adrenergic syndrome, cellulitis, moniliasis, neck rigidity, pelvic pain, peritonitis, sepsis, ulcer. Hypertension, tachycardia; infrequent: Bradycardia, hematoma, hypotension, migraine, syncope; rare: Angina pectoris, arrhythmia nodal, atrial fibrillation, bundle branch block, cerebral ischemia, cerebrovascular accident, congestive heart failure, heart block, low cardiac output, myocardial infarct, myocardial ischemia, pallor, phlebitis, pulmonary embolus, supraventricular extrasystoles, thrombophlebitis, thrombosis, varicose vein, vascular headache, ventricular extrasystoles. Bruxism, colitis, dysphagia, eructation, gastritis, gastroenteritis, gingivitis, glossitis, increased salivation, liver function tests abnormal, rectal hemorrhage, ulcerative stomatitis; rare: Aphthous stomatitis, bloody diarrhea, bulimia, cardiospasm, cholelithiasis, duodenitis, enteritis, esophagitis, fecal impactions, fecal incontinence, gum hemorrhage, hematemesis, hepatitis, ileitis, ileus, intestinal obstruction, jaundice, melena, mouth ulceration, peptic ulcer, salivary gland enlargement, sialadenitis, stomach ulcer, stomatitis, tongue discoloration, tongue edema, tooth caries. Diabetes mellitus, goiter, hyperthyroidism, hypothyroidism, thyroiditis. Anemia, leukopenia, lymphadenopathy, purpura; rare: Abnormal erythrocytes, basophilia, bleeding time increased, eosinophilia, hypochromic anemia, iron deficiency anemia, leukocytosis, lymphedema, abnormal lymphocytes, lymphocytosis, microcytic anemia, monocytosis, normocytic anemia, thrombocythemia, thrombocytopenia. Edema, peripheral edema, SGOT increased, SGPT increased, thirst, weight loss; rare: Alkaline phosphatase increased, bilirubinemia, BUN increased, creatinine phosphokinase increased, dehydration, gamma globulins increased, gout, hypercalcemia, hypercholesteremia, hyperglycemia, hyperkalemia, hyperphosphatemia, hypocalcemia, hypoglycemia, hypokalemia, hyponatremia, ketosis, lactic dehydrogenase increased, non-protein nitrogen (NPN) increased. Arthritis, arthrosis; rare: Bursitis, myositis, osteoporosis, generalized spasm, tenosynovitis, tetany. Emotional lability, vertigo; infrequent: Abnormal thinking, alcohol abuse, ataxia, dystonia, dyskinesia, euphoria, hallucinations, hostility, hypertonia, hypesthesia, hypokinesia, incoordination, lack of emotion, libido increased, manic reaction, neurosis, paralysis, paranoid reaction; rare: Abnormal gait, akinesia, antisocial reaction, aphasia, choreoathetosis, circumoral paresthesias, convulsion, delirium, delusions, diplopia, drug dependence, dysarthria, extrapyramidal syndrome, fasciculations, grand mal convulsion, hyperalgesia, hysteria, manic-depressive reaction, meningitis, myelitis, neuralgia, neuropathy, nystagmus, peripheral neuritis, psychotic depression, psychosis, reflexes decreased, reflexes increased, stupor, torticollis, trismus, withdrawal syndrome. Asthma, bronchitis, dyspnea, epistaxis, hyperventilation, pneumonia, respiratory flu; rare: Emphysema, hemoptysis, hiccups, lung fibrosis, pulmonary edema, sputum increased, stridor, voice alteration. Acne, alopecia, contact dermatitis, dry skin, ecchymosis, eczema, herpes simplex, photosensitivity, urticaria; rare: Angioedema, erythema nodosum, erythema multiforme, exfoliative dermatitis, fungal dermatitis, furunculosis; herpes zoster, hirsutism, maculopapular rash, seborrhea, skin discoloration, skin hypertrophy, skin ulcer, sweating decreased, vesiculobullous rash. Abnormality of accommodation, conjunctivitis, ear pain, eye pain, keratoconjunctivitis, mydriasis, otitis media; rare: Amblyopia, anisocoria, blepharitis, cataract, conjunctival edema, corneal ulcer, deafness, exophthalmos, eye hemorrhage, glaucoma, hyperacusis, night blindness, otitis externa, parosmia, photophobia, ptosis, retinal hemorrhage, taste loss, visual field defect. Amenorrhea, breast pain, cystitis, dysuria, hematuria, menorrhagia, nocturia, polyuria, pyuria, urinary incontinence, urinary retention, urinary urgency, vaginitis; rare: Abortion, breast atrophy, breast enlargement, endometrial disorder, epididymitis, female lactation, fibrocystic breast, kidney calculus, kidney pain, leukorrhea, mastitis, metrorrhagia, nephritis, oliguria, salpingitis, urethritis, urinary casts, uterine spasm, urolith, vaginal hemorrhage, vaginal moniliasis. Voluntary reports of adverse events in patients taking PAXIL that have been received since market introduction and not listed above that may have no causal relationship with the drug include acute pancreatitis, elevated liver function tests (the most severe cases were deaths due to liver necrosis, and grossly elevated transaminases associated with severe liver dysfunction), Guillain-Barré syndrome, toxic epidermal necrolysis, priapism, syndrome of inappropriate ADH secretion, symptoms suggestive of prolactinemia and galactorrhea, neuroleptic malignant syndrome–like events; extrapyramidal symptoms which have included akathisia, bradykinesia, cogwheel rigidity, dystonia, hypertonia, oculogyric crisis which has been associated with concomitant use of pimozide; tremor and trismus; serotonin syndrome, associated in some cases with concomitant use of serotonergic drugs and with drugs which may have impaired metabolism of PAXIL (symptoms have included agitation, confusion, diaphoresis, hallucinations, hyperreflexia, myoclonus, shivering, tachycardia, and tremor), status epilepticus, acute renal failure, pulmonary hypertension, allergic alveolitis, anaphylaxis, eclampsia, laryngismus, optic neuritis, porphyria, ventricular fibrillation, ventricular tachycardia (including torsade de pointes), thrombocytopenia, hemolytic anemia, events related to impaired hematopoiesis (including aplastic anemia, pancytopenia, bone marrow aplasia, and agranulocytosis), and vasculitic syndromes (such as Henoch-Schönlein purpura). There has been a case report of an elevated phenytoin level after 4 weeks of PAXIL and phenytoin coadministration. There has been a case report of severe hypotension when PAXIL was added to chronic metoprolol treatment. PAXIL has not been systematically studied in animals or humans for its potential for abuse, tolerance or physical dependence. Based on the mechanism of action of paroxetine and the potential for serotonin syndrome, caution is advised when PAXIL is coadministered with other drugs or agents that may affect the serotonergic neurotransmitter systems, such as tryptophan, triptans, serotonin reuptake inhibitors, linezolid (an antibiotic which is a reversible non-selective MAOI), lithium, tramadol, or St. John's Wort (see Serotonin Syndrome). A multiple-dose study has shown that there is no pharmacokinetic interaction between PAXIL and lithium carbonate. However, since there is little clinical experience, the concurrent administration of paroxetine and lithium should be undertaken with caution. www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/parox_ad.htm www.quitpaxil.info
Monday, April 16, 2007 1:39 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Monday, April 16, 2007 2:37 PM
Quote: Appalachian School of Law shooting The The Appalachian School of Law (ASL) shootings occurred January 16, 2002. ASL is an ABA accredited private law school in Grundy, Virginia, United States. On January 16, 2002, the Dean, Anthony Sutin, Professor Thomas Blackwell, and student Angela Dales were shot and killed by disgruntled student Peter Odighizuwa, 43, of Nigeria. Three other students were shot but survived. The abrupt ending to Odighizuwa ‘s shooting spree is attributed to three students with personal firearms who quickly took action. At the first sound of gunfire, fellow students Tracy Bridges and Mikael Gross, unbeknownst to the other, ran to their vehicles to grab their personal firearms. Bridges and Gross then worked with Ted Besen, the third student. The three students approached Odighizuwa from different angles. Bridges raised his revolver and pointed it at Odighizuwa who then dropped his firearm and was first subdued by Besen followed by other students. Once Odighizuwa was securely held down Gross went back to his vehicle and retrieved handcuffs to help hold Odighizuwa until police could arrive. Police reports noted there were two empty eight round magazines belonging to Odighizuwa’s .380 semi-automatic handgun. It is unclear whether Odighizuwa ran out of ammunition or if there was still one round in the chamber at the time that he dropped his firearm. etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting Appalachian Law School Shootings - Media Crushes The Truth By Ted Lang January 13, 2004 Both Dr. John R. Lott, Jr., in his book The Bias Against Guns [© 2003, Regnery – Washington, D.C.] and Bernard Goldberg in his most recent book, Arrogance [© 2003, Warner – New York, N.Y.] discuss the shocking media bias and factual manipulation used by the Second Amendment-hating press to advance false information to fool the public. Both authors focused upon the same astonishing media manipulation that became evident in the case of the Appalachian Law School shootings back in 2002. Quoting from Goldberg’s book, “A student at the Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, Virginia, who has just been told he will be suspended for failing grades, storms through the campus, clutching a handgun. As terrorized students run for their lives, they hear him say, ‘Come get me, come get me.’ But before anyone can get him, the student, a forty-two-year old immigrant from Nigeria, goes on a shooting spree, killing a dean, a professor, and a fellow student. He also shoots and wounds three other students – one in the abdomen, one in the throat, and another in the chest.” Goldberg continues, “Finally, as the Washington Post reports, ‘Three students pounced on the gunman and held him until help arrived.’ Later in the story, the Post says, ‘The students then tackled the gunman.’ John Roberts at CBS News reported the story the very same way: ‘Three people were killed … before students tackled the suspect.’ At NBC News, Kevin Tibbles said the students ‘overpowered the gunman and held him until police could arrive.’” Goldberg relates that, “The bloody incident happened on January 16, 2002, and was picked up by news organizations all over the country, almost all of which covered the story the way the Washington Post and the networks did. Which means virtually all of them left out one tiny, little fact. Two of the three students who ‘pounced on’ and ‘tackled’ and ‘overpowered’ the gunman, also had guns.” Clearly, Mr. Goldberg was being sarcastic, and justifiably so. This explanation of the events surrounding the shooting is from Dr. Lott’s book: “The fast responses of two male students, Mikael Gross, thirty-four, and Tracy Bridges, twenty-five, undoubtedly saved many lives. Mikael was outside the law school and just returning from lunch when Peter Odighizuwa started his attack. Tracy was in a classroom waiting for class to start. When the shots rang out, utter chaos erupted. Mikael said, ‘People were running everywhere. They were jumping behind cars, running out in front of traffic, trying to get away.’” Lott explains the actual encounter: “Mikael and Tracy were prepared to do something quite different: Both immediately ran to their cars and got their guns. Mikael had to run about one hundred yards to get to his car. Along with Ted Besen [who was unarmed], they approached Peter from different sides. As Tracy explains it, ‘I stopped at my vehicle and got a handgun, a revolver. Ted went toward Peter, and I aimed my gun at [Peter], and Peter tossed his gun down. Ted approached Peter, and Peter hit Ted in the jaw. Ted pushed him back and we all jumped on.’” Dr. Lott is a renowned statistician who has done extensive research proving irrevocably the false and fraudulent "evidence" consistently churned up and mass produced by the media for public consumption. These lies, falsehoods, spikes and the withholding of important facts is what enables tiny, insignificant statist minority groups to greatly magnify their power and dominate and subjugate the majority, forcing upon us an agenda guaranteeing the destruction of one of the American people’s greatest constitutional protections. And the liberal agenda they wish to saddle us with concerns the issue of crime, which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Second Amendment. etc http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/04/01/13/lang.htm
Monday, April 16, 2007 2:56 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Monday, April 16, 2007 3:43 PM
Quote: It worked in the UK after a mind-controlled individual killed 16 small children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland on March 13, 1996. About 10 months later, parliamentary laws were passed that said that possessing a gun in the UK meant 10 years in prison. Legislation was passed even faster in Australia when a gunman armed with an assault rifle killed 35 and wounded 19 in a massacre in Tasmania, Australia on March 28, 1996-just two weeks after the Dunblane shootings. www.educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwoguncontrolindex.shtml THE PORT ARTHUR MASSACRE CONSPIRACY At 12.40AM on the 4th Feb 1999 in New York City, four plain clothes police officers accidently shot an unarmed black man on the stoop of his building as he reached for his wallet. The police mistook the man's action as reaching for a gun and fired 41 shots from a distance of about 12 ft (3 meters) with 9mm semiautomatic pistols each holding 16 bullets in the magazine. The man, Amadou Diallo, died from gunshot wounds after being hit only 19 times. If the NY Police are such lousy shots perhaps they should try to find the real Port Arthur shooter to give them some lessons. Read why Martin Bryant couldn't have been the shooter at Port Arthur. http://home.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/JoeVialls.html MASONIC MAFIA PEDOPHILE SCHOOL MASSACRE IN DUNBLANE SCTOLAND The Dunblane massacre was a multiple murder-suicide which occurred at the primary school in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996. It remains the deadliest attack on children in United Kingdom history. Sixteen children and one adult were killed, in addition to the attacker. On Wednesday, 13 March 1996, unemployed former shopkeeper and Scout leader Thomas Hamilton walked into the school armed with two 9 mm Browning HP pistols and two Smith and Wesson .357 revolvers. He was carrying 743 cartridges. Hamilton's exact motives remain unknown, though it is a matter of record that there were complaints to police regarding his suspicious behaviour towards the young boys who attended the youth clubs that he ran. There were suspicions prior to the massacre that Hamilton's interest in boys was paedophilic, with more than one complaint being made regarding him having taken photographs of semi-naked boys without the parents' consent. He claimed in letters that rumours about him led to the collapse of his shop business in 1993, and in the last months of his life he complained again that his attempts to set up a boys' club were subject to persecution by the police and the scout movement. Among those he complained to were local MP Michael Forsyth and the Queen. In the 1980s, another MP, George Robertson, who lived in Dunblane, had complained to Forsyth about Hamilton's local boys' club, which his son had attended. On the day following the massacre, George Robertson spoke of having argued with Hamilton "in my own home". There has been unfounded speculation about the relationship between Hamilton and Robertson. As the law stood at the time, the police were unable to revoke Hamilton's firearms certificate (gun licence) because there were no substantiated grounds to do so. Although one Central Scotland Police officer had recommended (in a lengthy report on Hamilton) that revoking his firearms certificate should be considered, this was overruled as the Deputy Chief Constable considered that he would be able to appeal successfully. The Deputy Chief Constable resigned at the same time as Lord Cullen's report into the massacre was published. The Cullen Inquiry recommended tighter control of handgun ownership as well as other changes in school security and vetting of people working with children under 18. However because the Hungerford massacre also involved a legal gun owner killing with his legally held guns, public feeling had turned against private gun ownership, allowing a much more restrictive ban on handguns to pass. Since the massacre, questions have been raised about the actions of Central Scotland Police in the case, and numerous Internet conspiracy theories have arisen regarding alleged involvement by Freemasonry, George Robertson, MI6, the supporters of the Snowdrop Petition and Northern Ireland terrorist organisations. These were, to some extent, fuelled by the 100-year restriction on publication of parts of the Cullen Inquiry into the massacre. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_Massacre http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/13/newsid_2543000/2543277.stm This is what Gangsta Govt does to sheeple in Victim Disarmament Zones - Psycho London copsters and Commander Dick face arrest for murder of innocent Jean Charles de Menezes by holding him down and shooting him 11 times in the head for 30 seconds until his head was knocked off British MI5/6 ran all IRA & Loyalist terror bombings and sniper murders in Britian to justify police state martial law of British subject slaves www.infowars.net/articles/february2007/020207Obachike.htm www.piratenews.org/bush-blair-bombed-london-matrix.html Eighteen people died when an expelled former pupil went on a shooting spree at his school in the eastern German city of Erfurt. Masked and dressed in black, the gunman walked through classrooms killing 14 teachers, two schoolgirls and one of the first policemen on the scene before taking his own life. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1952869.stm British and US gangsta govts ran all terror bombings and assassinations in Western Europe after WW2 in Operation Gladio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio Mind Control Series: including George Bush Jr's favorite cannibal Henry Lee Lucas www.gnosticliberationfront.com/mind_control_series4.htm MIND CONTROL IN AMERIKA Five Easy Steps To Create A Manchurian Candidate www.rumormillnews.com/operation2.htm Slaughterhouse 5.0 http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/10/slaughterhouse-50.html CIA mind controller Jim Jones www.whale.to/b/jonestown1.html
Monday, April 16, 2007 3:44 PM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Why is it that other countries don't have nearly the gun violence of the US?
Monday, April 16, 2007 4:42 PM
Monday, April 16, 2007 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Ozzysun: When you make it harder for law abiding citizens to get a gun you make it easier for the criminals to victmize innocent people.
Monday, April 16, 2007 5:23 PM
Monday, April 16, 2007 5:41 PM
Quote:I don't see how gun control is the issue.
Monday, April 16, 2007 6:12 PM
Monday, April 16, 2007 8:44 PM
SIGMANUNKI
Monday, April 16, 2007 9:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: What you're pointing out is that inequities in gun rules create two populations. Perhaps the answer is uniform rules - everybody, or nobody.
Quote: "Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of TERRORISM within the United States." —James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba", May 1, 2001 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 "We could develop a Communist Cuba TERROR campaign in the Miami area, in other Flordia cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could foster attempts [sniper and handgun attacks] on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized. Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots. " —General Lyman Lemnitzer, chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon, Memo to Secretary of War Robert McNamara, Subject: Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba - Operation NORTHWOODS, March 13, 1962 www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf www.geocities.com/tetrahedronomega/
Monday, April 16, 2007 10:02 PM
Quote:What you're pointing out is that inequities in gun rules create two populations. Perhaps the answer is uniform rules - everybody, or nobody.
Quote:i.e. the "Unarmed Victims Here!" argument is utter crap.
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:16 AM
ROJBLAKE
Quote:Originally posted by SigmaNunki: Again, other countries have *far* more strict gun laws (hell to my knowledge the UK police still don't carry) and we get along just fine without these violent incidents happening all the time. Perhaps it's time that you guys decided to actually deal with your issues instead of letting them get out of hand; your politicians only pretending to deal with them. Because your house is on fire and it's not just threatening your neighbours anymore. Our houses are starting to catch fire too. "
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by RojBlake: Nobody has said this that I'm aware of, but does anyone else notice a difference in this "rampage" as compared to other such events? Like a 2 hour lull in activity? Like a half-mile geographic shift in location? If this was indeed the same shooter why the change? If he just wanted to kill people then why not just kill folks in the dorm? What about the bomb threats? This incident stinks...& I don't mean just in the level of death. Also could someone explain to me how we have a 32 to 15 (18) dead to wounded ratio? That's some pretty decent accuracy from a "lunatic" who it is being said comes from another country, actually that's pretty good accuracy for anyone. I'm not buying the official line on this...it don't smell right.
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:17 AM
Quote:"He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," school spokesman Larry Hincker said.
Quote:Police identified the classroom shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a senior from South Korea who was in the English department and lived in another dorm on campus. They said Cho committed suicide after the attacks, and there was no indication Tuesday of a possible motive. Two law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the information had not been announced, said Cho's fingerprints were found on the guns used in both shootings. The serial numbers on the two weapons had been filed off, the officials said.
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:48 AM
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:02 AM
HKCAVALIER
Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:27 AM
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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:24 AM
FLETCH2
Quote:Originally posted by RojBlake: Quote:Originally posted by SigmaNunki: Again, other countries have *far* more strict gun laws (hell to my knowledge the UK police still don't carry) and we get along just fine without these violent incidents happening all the time. Perhaps it's time that you guys decided to actually deal with your issues instead of letting them get out of hand; your politicians only pretending to deal with them. Because your house is on fire and it's not just threatening your neighbours anymore. Our houses are starting to catch fire too. " Actually as I understand it more UK police can carry guns now, because their crime rate jumped, as did Australia...after they banned guns! .
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