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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Nope.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/index.html#intro

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.the search for “Planet X” by various astronomers. A significant highlight of that search was the announcement in December 1983 by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory that IRAS (the infra-red telescope) has found a planet, much larger than Earth, moving in the distant heavens in our direction. The announcement – hastily retracted as a “misunderstanding” – prompted the Reagan-Gorbachov meetings and President Reagan’s speech at the U.N. about the common danger to Mankind from “an alien planet out there.”

a video presentation of Reagan’s speech (and Soviet video footage concerning the Phobos Incident), and to a never-before-shown video of my interview of the astronomer who was in charge of the official U.S. government search for Planet X -- Dr. Robert Harrington at the United States Naval Observatory. Speaking of the planet as a matter-of-fact, Dr. Harrington described it as 2 -3 times the size or mass of Earth, with an atmosphere, “habitable;” Dr. Harrington died suddenly soon after the interview - August 1991
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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Nope.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/index.html#intro

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Sungrazing Comet Possibly Hit by Solar Eruption
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/neat_soho_030218.html

"Here is a spectacular MPEG movie (489 kB) of a coronal ejection event captured by the LASCO instrument on SOHO space telescope. In the movie a comet first appears to encounter the Sun and the coronal mass ejection then occurs almost as if in response to the comet."
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/sun/comet.mpg
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/sun/flares.html

VIDEO: THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE
ARC WELDING IN SPACE: COMETS GET ZAPPED BY SOLAR FLARES ON SUN
2-million degree solar corona
www.thunderboltsfilm.com/PAGES/film_sequences.html
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&q=THUNDE
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"The Sun - it's that big firey thing up in the sky. But that's not important right now."
-John Lee, Pirate News TV

"The total energy from the Sun that hits the Earth in one second equals the energy release of Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear weapon ever tested, or the total electricity consumption of Norway in 1998. The total energy from the Sun that hits the Earth in one minute equals the total production of electrical energy in the US in 2001. The total energy from the Sun that hits the Earth in one hour equals the total energy consumed by the world in one year (2001). The energy released from a supernova or Gamma Ray Burst equals the total mass-energy of the mass of the Sun."
-Wikipedia, Orders of Magnitude
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_%28energy%29

GLOBAL WARMING MAX 1934
www.texemarrs.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=catalo
g&Product_Code=pop_3506_cd&Category_Code=October_2006_Programs

GLOBAL COOLING SINCE 1998
www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.
xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/09/ixworld.html

GLOBAL WARMING ON SUN
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/18/wsun18.xml&sS
heet=/news/2004/07/18/ixnewstop.html

MARS GLOBAL WARMING
www.mos.org/cst-archive/article/80/9.html

JUPITER GLOBAL WARMING
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html

NEPTUNE GLOBAL WARMING
www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980526052143data_trunc_sys.shtml

PLUTO GLOBAL WARMING
www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

SOLAR SYSTEM WARMING
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/161106suvjupiter.htm

COSMIC GLOBAL WARMING
www.infowars.com/articles/science/global_warming_cosmic_rays_blamed_fo
r_warming.htm

100-MILLION DEGREE MILKY WAY
www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050217tempsspace.htm

SOLAR POLE FLIP
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm

OZONE HOLE HOAX
www.hourofthetime.com/Hour_of_the_Time/Podcasts/066763A5-22A6-4A52-88B
4-6082A941D44C.html

GLOBAL FREEZING: Cyclical Ice Age by 2012
http://freedomradio.us/news/2006/1_january/10_ice_age.html

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VIDEO: NASA GLAST GAMMA-RAY TOUR FROM LOW-EARTH ORBIT
http://glast.sonoma.edu/images/skymaps1.swf

VIDEO: BAD ASTRONOMER FORGOT TO TELL FOX HE WORKS FOR NASA
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484&q=conspir
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Originally posted by piratejenny:
The sumarians had accurate knowlege of our solar system 6,000 years ago, had pictures of our solar system and even accurate discriptions of all the planets in our solar system right down to the size and color of the planets, they also knew the planets revolved around the sun.

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Mind you its only been about 4 hundred years since people stop believing that the earth was the center of the universe.

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They also explained where they got their information from and who gave it to them. The Anunnakki which literally means Those who from Heaven to Earth came, and where they came from was a planet called Nibiru,

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because this planet has an elipitcal orbit and passes near earth every 3,600 years, because of the gravitational pull the planet's passing brings with it climatic earth changes, not just on earth but the other planets too.

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“floating transport to La la land”.

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This is relevant, ie, if Earth gets caught between a Planet X and the Sun, it might get zapped, like a bug trapped in a Walmart patio accessory:

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
The last time Planet X/ Nibiru made a passing it caused the great Flood thats a part of every culture around the world.

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Also factor in that scientist are actively searching for Planet X, they know it exist, but at the same time information on Planet X/ Nibiru is pretty hushed although little bit by little bit the public is being made aware of it.

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Watching old episodes of Doctor Who is not a good basis for a scientific theory.

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Also factor in that scientist are actively searching for Planet X, they know it exist, but at the same time information on Planet X/ Nibiru is pretty hushed although little bit by little bit the public is being made aware of it.

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Any celestial body capable of exerting the kind of influence on the Earth that you are attributing to Planet X, and which is arriving in the timeframe that you cite would be visible to essentially any amateur astronomer right now. So why isn't the amateur astronomy world abuzz with the discovery of a new planet?

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The 12th Planet/ planet X/ Nibiru perodic appearance and disappreance from earths view confirms the assumption of it permanence in solar orbit. In this it acts like many comets. If so, why are our astronomers not aware of the existence of this planet? The facts is even an orbit half as long as the lower figure ( thecomet) Kohoutek, (every 7,500 years), would take the 12th planet about 6 times farther away from us than Pluto- a distance at which such a planet would not be visable from Earth. In fact the known planets beyond Saturn were discovered first not visually but mathmatically.

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Originally posted by kaneman:
"Dr. Harrington described it as 2 -3 times the size or mass of Earth, with an atmosphere, “habitable;”"


Habitable? That far away from the sun. Would it be too cold to be habitable?

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
The sumarians had accurate knowlege of our solar system 6,000 years ago, had pictures of our solar system and even accurate discriptions of all the planets in our solar system right down to the size and color of the planets, they also knew the planets revolved around the sun.

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No they didn't. The Sumerian's, by their own records, only knew about five planets, and that's including the Sun and the Moon.

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They also explained where they got their information from and who gave it to them. The Anunnakki which literally means Those who from Heaven to Earth came, and where they came from was a planet called Nibiru,

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which literally means, Planet of the crossing ,

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It's actually more correctly "neberu" and most commonly means "Crossing place, or Ford". It doesn't literally mean “planet of the crossing” at all, any more than Bridge literally means “floating transport to La la land”.

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because this planet has an elipitcal orbit and passes near earth every 3,600 years, because of the gravitational pull the planet's passing brings with it climatic earth changes, not just on earth but the other planets too.

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In that case it's close enough to Earth to observe with a telescope, so maybe you or Stitchen can furnish us with the position to point our telescopes at?







exactly if the whole solar system is heating up, its alot more to it them human beings although we should try to find ways to cut back and end the pollution for our on health and safety if for no other reason!!

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Nope.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/index.html#intro

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No they didn't. The Sumerian's, by their own records, only knew about five planets, and that's including the Sun and the Moon.
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According to Mespotamian Text when Nibiru/ Planet X does come into the solar system it will be so bright that we will be able to see it shining even in the daytime espeically in the morning and towards evening.

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
yes I've been wondering about that too. There has been talk of a planet having been found, but it does seem as if even amteurs should be noticing something going on and so far nothing from that camp!!

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O.K here is an explantion of why Planet X has not been seen by amteurs yet

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The 12th Planet/ planet X/ Nibiru perodic appearance and disappreance from earths view confirms the assumption of it permanence in solar orbit. In this it acts like many comets. If so, why are our astronomers not aware of the existence of this planet? The facts is even an orbit half as long as the lower figure ( thecomet) Kohoutek, (every 7,500 years), would take the 12th planet about 6 times farther away from us than Pluto- a distance at which such a planet would not be visable from Earth. In fact the known planets beyond Saturn were discovered first not visually but mathmatically.

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Planet X is supposedly heated by it's inner core!!

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I don't know where you got your information

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The sumerians knew of 12 planets in our solar system, they counted the moon and sun as planets making Nibiru the 12 Planet in our solar system, some people don't count the sun and moon and say Planet X/ Nibiru is the 10th planet. but the sumarians called it the 12th and they've got discriptions of it and pictures..

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and honestly I'd take their word over it before yours anyday seeing as how they know more about the subject!!!

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According to Mespotamian Text when Nibiru/ Planet X does come into the solar system it will be so bright that we will be able to see it shining even in the daytime espeically in the morning and towards evening

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And the name Nibiru in sumarian does mean Planet of the Crossing!!

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And its symbol has been the cross since ancient times!!

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I wasn't talking about the word "neberu"

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I was talking the planet Nibiru..the actual planet!!

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Many of the ancient Sumarian cylinder seals describe a planet that orbit takes it beyond Pluto, but also comes in from the SOUTH and moves in a counterclockwise direction according to Mesopotamian data.

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I guess we will know the truth when it actually happens, at least this is one thing that can be proved or disproved!! Time certainly will tell!!

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"Dr. Harrington described it as 2 -3 times the size or mass of Earth, with an atmosphere, “habitable;”"


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Planet X is supposedly heated by it's inner core!!

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According to Mespotamian Text when Nibiru/ Planet X does come into the solar system it will be so bright that we will be able to see it shining even in the daytime espeically in the morning and towards evening.

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Sounds like a Comet to me.
How about some links to your sources, I mean the Sumerian texts not Sitchin. You keep saying "according to Sumerian texts" well lets have some qoutes so that we can judge for ourselves. But if the texts you are reading are in Sitchin's books then you'r not reading Sumerian text, you'r reading Sitchin's interpretation of them, or his interpretation of someone elses translation which is even less accurate.

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like a Comet to me.
How about some links to your sources, I mean the Sumerian texts not Sitchin. You keep saying "according to Sumerian texts" well lets have some qoutes so that we can judge for ourselves. But if the texts you are reading are in Sitchin's books then you'r not reading Sumerian text, you'r reading Sitchin's interpretation of them, or his interpretation of someone elses translation which is even less accurate.

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Citizen
Bunny-land- glad you've discovered it and appreciate it's value. Tell us about it. I know, bunny's aren't for intelligent people like yourself because then you have to question you're intelligence or something like that.

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.Yeah I don't take Stitchens word at face value, unlike you. A little digging soon goes to show that Stitchens interpretation has no credibility, he won't even dare publish it as a peer review, if you cared about the reality of the situation you'd do some checking beyond Stitchen's say so. If there's 200 people who can read Summerian cuniform then there's 199 other interpretation you dismiss and care nothing for, because, it would seem, they don't say what you want to hear.

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I don't believe you've even read his books, no I'm not ignorning others interpretation, its just that Stichen is the one that makes the most sense.

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Just like you cannot ignore the facts ,the same stories in the Bible are predated by more detailed stories of the same events in sumerian text. yet just because the Annunakki are there many other sholars want to say that they are myths...its a contridiction.

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Its all very fascinating, either way the thing I like about this is that it can be proven and will be proven or disproven either way bTime will soon tell

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I don't believe you've even read his books, no I'm not ignorning others interpretation, its just that Stichen is the one that makes the most sense.

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Just like you cannot ignore the facts ,the same stories in the Bible are predated by more detailed stories of the same events in sumerian text. yet just because the Annunakki are there many other sholars want to say that they are myths...its a contridiction.

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Not really, we are a country of Christians so calling the Bible a myth raises hackles, calling the Sumerian beliefs myth only pisses off people like you. Many of those scholars would probably be willing to privately call the Bible a myth they just don't want to deal with the backlash of calling it a myth in public.

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The Bible stories are predated by the same sumerian stories, which explains where those stories came from, so if you are calling the sumerian stories a myth then you are calling the Biblical stories a myth. the Biblical stories are but a condesed, less informative less detailed, edited version of the sumerian stories.

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