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The President’s commutation of Scooter Libby’s prison sentence does not serve justice, condones criminal conduct, and is a betrayal of trust of the American people.

The President said he would hold accountable anyone involved in the Valerie Plame leak case. By his action today, the President shows his word is not to be believed. He has abandoned all sense of fairness when it comes to justice, he has failed to uphold the rule of law, and he has failed to hold his Administration accountable - July 2nd, 2007 by Speaker Pelosi

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On September 30, 2003, President Bush said that if there had been "a leak" from his administration about Plame, "I want to know who it is ... and if the person has violated law, the person will be taken care of."

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Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
"I respect the jury's verdict," Bush said in a statement. "But"....aw screw it......I ain't got no respect fer nobody....'sides I'm the friggin DECIDER....!

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I'm numb...............catatonic.........................not surprised.........we're doomed anyway....if somebody shoots Bush soon, it wasn't me

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
I'd like to hear now from the morons who still support this administration. Care to dance for us?

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
I'd like to hear now from the morons who still support this administration. Care to dance for us?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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"That's fantastic. It's a great relief," said former Ambassador Richard Carlson, who helped raise millions for Libby's defense fund. "Scooter Libby did not deserve to go to prison and I'm glad the president had the courage to do this."

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Bush said Cheney's former aide was not getting off free.
"The reputation he gained through his years of public service and professional work in the legal community is forever damaged," Bush said. "His wife and young children have also suffered immensely. He will remain on probation. The significant fines imposed by the judge will remain in effect. The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant and private citizen will be long-lasting."

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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Ah to be rich, powerful, and be able to piss anyone off and never have to worry about culpability.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Good. I have to admit, for a short while I was starting to think that Bush wasn’t going to pardon Libby. (Although technically, he didn't.)

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Mr. Libby did not deserve to go to jail. I just love how out of their minds the Dems are on this...just all verklempt and besides themselves..what a hoot! Funny how none of them had any problems with their love God Clinton when he pardoned embezzlers, drug dealers, rapists, and felons.....compared to those that dirty Bill set free, Libby was a Boy Scout.

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Mr. Libby did not deserve to go to jail. I just love how out of their minds the Dems are on this...just all verklempt and besides themselves..what a hoot! Funny how none of them had any problems with their love God Clinton when he pardoned embezzlers, drug dealers, rapists, and felons.....compared to those that dirty Bill set free, Libby was a Boy Scout.

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Lets not forget that Clinton directly accepted money for several of his pardons. Also he pardon several Jewish fellas in New York whose community had turned out to vote 97% for Hillary, despite never voting Demacrat before or since.

Not that Clinton broke any laws. The Supreme Court has said many times that the pardon power is unlimited and that the President can pardon a person for ANY reason, including political.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
I'd like to hear now from the morons who still support this administration. Care to dance for us?

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hero- your replies helped me to understand why lawyers say "the law is a whore".

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
How can that be equated to skating?

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I don't think so. If he deliberately obstructed the investigation, then yes he should. But I find the fact that there was no underlying offense compelling. How can one obstruct an investigation into nothing? I don't think it can be done. So my final conclusion is that Libby does not deserve jail.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
How did you conclude that? Patrick Fitzgerald said that he could not even investigate if there was any underlying crime due to Libby's interference and obstruction. Your logic is spectacularly faulty.

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"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor."
-Lewis Libby, Jewish Israeli Bush Project for a New American Century, Rebuilding America's Defenses, 2000
www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

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LARRY KING: Why did you drive with a suspended license?

PARIS HILTON: I was told that I had my license. My lawyer told me the license is suspended for 30 days, no driving. Then 90 days then after that you could drive to and from work. So for 30 days, I never drove once. Then after that it was for work related purposes.

KING: Think you got a raw deal? Do you?

HILTON: Yes, I do.

KING: What's the terms of probation? What can you do and can't do?

HILTON: Now?

KING: Yes. You're on probation, right?

HILTON: I'm just going to follow all the laws.

KING: I mean, for how long? Do you have to report to a probation officer?

HILTON: No. It's not like that.

KING: Do you think the judge was unkind?

HILTON: You know, my lawyers even said that with this kind -- it wasn't for a DUI, it was for a suspended license -- that people only -- I was walking in there assuming I was just going to get community service. That's what my lawyer said at the time. So when he sentenced me to that much time in jail, it was shocking, because that doesn't happen, ever.

KING: Did you think, Paris, that you didn't deserve to be there?

HILTON: You know, I think the crime did not fit the, you know, fit the punishment. I did my time. And you know, it was really hard, but I don't feel like I deserved to go to jail for it.

KING: You never felt you were a criminal.

HILTON: No.

KING: Not now, not then?

HILTON: No.

KING: On January 15, you were pulled over by the California Highway Patrol and told your license had been suspended, and you said you thought it was OK.

HILTON: I told the officer because I called my lawyer at that point and they said you're allowed to drive for work related purposes and I was at a business meeting before that.

KING: So misconception.

HILTON: Yeah.

KING: And January 22 you plead "no contest" to a reduced charge of alcohol-related reckless driving, you were ordered to take alcohol education. Did you?

HILTON: Yes, I did. And actually when we went into court, they said that I hadn't but the lady was sitting right in the courtroom and she said, "I will testify and say that Paris finished the course" and they wouldn't let her do it.

KING: And the driving with a suspended license. That you thought it was not suspended, right?

HILTON: I never would have driven on a suspended license. I get followed by paparazzi all day. Why would I have the audacity to do that?

KING: What kind of license do you have now?

HILTON: Fully reinstated license.

Even before I went in jail my license was fully reinstated with no restrictions whatsoever.

KING: Were you -- oh, we have your mug shot. Want to find out what you were thinking, what it was like to go through this. We will show that. I've seen worse.

HILTON: Thank you.

www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/27/king.hilton.transcript/index.html


www.mugshots.org/hollywood/larry-king.html

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There is a great deal of speculation about whether Plame was a covert operative as defined by the law at that time. If she was not, then no crime was committed by revealing her status. Also she herself revealed the information to friends, neighbors, and even the press who took little or no interest in her "former" job. These two questions and some others equally interesting made it impossible for Fitzgerald to establish the underlying offense.

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The Prosecutor was never able to establish that a crime had occurred and never made the argument that if there was such a crime, the Vice-President's office was involved, so Libby's connection was tenuous at best.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
This is all bullcrap and you know it. I challenge you to post verification of any of this. You should stop shitting outta your mouth, it's unbecoming.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
How does pointing out what Clinton did excuse GWB? I didn't vote for Clinton and there were a lot of things he did that pissed me off. So before you start using Clinton-bashing as an excuse for Bush, you might notice that nobody here is defending the guy on moral grounds and nobody here is going to defend Bush either.

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Depends on your point of view. By law convicted drug dealaers get a lot of time.... but traitors get shot. Libby gave up not just one spy but her hole cover operation, sounds more like a traitor than a Boy Scout to me.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Jewish trial lawyer Lewis "Scooter" Libby was Jewish Israeli spy

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Cheney aroused President Bush to the danger from Wilson. A handwritten note by Libby that surfaced in his trial revealed that Bush raised his concern about the Kristof column in a subsequent June 9 meeting. The next day, the State Department memo "Niger/Iraq Uranium Story" began circulating within the administration. On June 12, Cheney identified Plame to Libby, and Libby went hard to work. Within three days, he discussed Plame with five officials. On July 6, after Wilson published a New York Times op-ed disclosing that the rationale the president gave for the war was premised on false information, an enraged Cheney ordered Libby into high gear. Cheney also secured Bush's concurrence for Libby to leak selected parts of the still-classified National Intelligence Estimate on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction to New York Times reporter Judith Miller on July 8. Bush, therefore, was deeply involved. But what did the president know, and when did he know it?

Bush's commutation of Libby's 30-month prison sentence for four counts of perjury and obstruction of justice was as politically necessary to hold his remaining hardcore base for the rest of his 18 months in office as it was politically damaging to his legacy and to the possibility of a Republican succession. It was also essential in order to sustain Libby's cover-up protecting Cheney and perhaps Bush himself.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Val and Joe were correct. There was no uranium yellow cake in Iraq. Hope y'all are enjoying the war though.

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